training exercise over. Russians begin pull begin back

[Ringo]

Really?
Is putin’s invasion of ukrane UN sanctioned the way bush’s invasion was?

 

[Mac-7]

I dont support the invasion

it was a mistake

but I dont support damn lies either

it was not an illegal invasion

 

[Ringo]

but I dont support damn lies either

it was not an illegal invasion

The invasion of Iraq was carried out against the background of the events of September 11, to which Iraq had NOTHING to do. And almost all the September 11 terrorists were from Saudi Arabia. Do you still see legality in the aggression against Iraq and you think it's a "mistake"?

 

[Mac-7]

The invasion of Iraq was carried out against the background of the events of September 11, to which Iraq had NOTHING to do. And almost all the September 11 terrorists were from Saudi Arabia. Do you still see legality in the aggression against Iraq and you think it's a "mistake"?

Now you are quibbling over policy not the legality of things

the invasion was dumb but it was not illegal or immoral

bush did the wrong thing for the right reasons

 

[sealybobo]

Really?

Is putin’s invasion of ukrane UN sanctioned the way bush’s invasion was?

Do you give a rats ass about the UN now? What it thinks carries weight with you?

 

[Mac-7]

Do you give a rats ass about the UN now?

Not at all

the UN is corrupt and consistently wrong

even about the Iraq war

but it is the legal body that all sides turn to at different times

 

[Ringo]

bush did the wrong thing for the right reasons

Everyone has reasons, as well as a hole in the ass

 

[Mac-7]

Everyone has reasons, as well as a hole in the ass

You sure are bitter about spilled milk

will constantly bashing bush on this thread change history?

I think not

 

[sealybobo]

Everyone has reasons, as well as a hole in the ass

And Bush/Rumsfeld/Powell/Chaney/Rice weren't entirely honest about the reasons. And the reasons or "mission" kept changing. It was for WMD's, then freedom, then to fight them over there so we didn't have to fight them over here.

I think we all look back now and can admit we got played. We all got lied to. The only difference is now us liberals get to say we told you so. Yea yea, Hillary voted for war too. Yea yea. Because Bush lied to us all. And when it started to look that way USMB Republicans dug in and defended Bush every step of the way until Candidate Bush said while running in the GOP primaries what no Republican up to that point would dare say. He lied. There were no WMD's and he knew.

The suddenly Jeb was unelectable. So we know deep down when it's Republican vs Republican, Republican voters agree and admit that Bush lied us into that war. They just can't admit it publicly really. So just like Mac says, "he did a wrong thing for the right reasons". What bullshit. Imagine if Joe and Kamama did what Bush did. IMAGINE!

 

[sealybobo]

You sure are bitter about spilled milk

will constantly bashing bush on yhis thread change history?

I think not

Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it.

 

[Mac-7]

Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it.

Thanks

but I dont believe anyone here was even considering another invasion of iraq

and hopefully no one else from the bush family in the white house

 

[Ringo]

but I dont believe anyone here was even considering another invasion of iraq

Yes, after the disaster in Afghanistan, the US authorities seem to want to fight with someone else's hands, for example using Ukraine against Russia.

 

[Mac-7]

Yes, after the disaster in Afghanistan, the US authorities seem to want to fight with someone else's hands, for example using Ukraine against Russia.

I’m no expert on ukraine, but I think they are willing to fight if thats what it takes to remain free of russia

so the US is hardly pushing them into anything

 

[Rambunctious]

Lol, move back to Russia and you can be with your good guys again.

You voted for the bad guys too?...good luck with that....

 

[Rambunctious]

No...the bad guys stormed the capitol on 1/6 and they still deny they ever did it.

No the bad guys spied on Trump's campaign and after he was elected president...the bad guys did that...Hillary Biden and Obama...this makes water gate look like an easter egg hunt.....

 

[evenflow1969]

You voted for the bad guys too?...good luck with that....

Lol, go suck Putin's schlong. Try not to get any on ya

 

[sealybobo]

Yes, after the disaster in Afghanistan, the US authorities seem to want to fight with someone else's hands, for example using Ukraine against Russia.

I think Republicans want to invade Iran next. Their next boogyman.

 

[Rambunctious]

Lol, go suck Putin's schlong. Try not to get any on ya

You are a dumbshit....so anything you say falls short....I hope you go broke on Joe's policies....

 

[sealybobo]

You are a dumbshit....so anything you say falls short....I hope you go broke on Joe's policies....

You guys said that about Clinton. Those were great years too. Biden's infrastructure bill is going to do 10 x what Trump's tax breaks did for the economy.

 

[Ringo]

I’m no expert on ukraine, but I think

Don't think. When the thought process is based on false information, the thought process will lead to idiotic conclusions.