Train derails in FL carrying 30,000 gallons of propane

[Rust_Cohle]

Opposes "big government" but quotes from big government's website.

LOLbertarians in action

 

[Harpy Eagle]

What has MAGA wanted to control? You honestly can't believe democrats want less control than MAGA

No, I do not think that democrats want less control than MAGA and I do not MAGA want less control than democrats.

Two sides, one coin

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Opposes "big government" but quotes from big government's website.

A question was asked, I gave the answer.

 

[Rust_Cohle]

No, I do not think that democrats want less control than MAGA and I do not MAGA want less control than democrats.

Two sides, one coin

So MAGA is the same coin as democrats? No, Repubs and Dems before MAGA were the same coin. How can you make such a silly statement and hope to be taken seriously

Must be the clownshoes talking LOL

 

[Harpy Eagle]

So MAGA is the same coin as democrats? No, Repubs and Dems before MAGA were the same coin. How can you make such a silly statement and hope to be taken seriously

Must be the clownshoes talking LOL

MAGA = Repubs. Unless of course you can tell me you did not vote for any Repubs in 2022

 

[Blaster]

Who is the secretary of transportation? What is his job?

Taking paternity leave and personal time.

 

[Rust_Cohle]

MAGA = Repubs. Unless of course you can tell me you did not vote for any Repubs in 2022

I vote MAGA, I don't support RINO GOP

 

[Blaster]

MAGA = Repubs. Unless of course you can tell me you did not vote for any Repubs in 2022

The only Republican I ever voted for is Donald Trump. I usually vote for 3rd party candidates.

 

[Blaster]

I vote MAGA, I don't support RINO GOP

RINO's comprise at least 50% of the Republican party.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

RINO's comprise at least 50% of the Republican party.

And you people reelect them at a 90% clip.

 

[JGalt]

So MAGA is the same coin as democrats? No, Repubs and Dems before MAGA were the same coin. How can you make such a silly statement and hope to be taken seriously

Must be the clownshoes talking LOL

You have to excuse Gator, he's stuck in a state where Republicans are as "conservative" as Republicans are in California. I won't mention that state, but it does have a city named "Chicago."

 

[Blaster]

And you people reelect them at a 90% clip.

You people?

 

[Rust_Cohle]

And you people reelect them at a 90% clip.

 

[Rust_Cohle]

RINO's comprise at least 50% of the Republican party.

Maybe but MAGA is gaining more daily. Who do you think will win the Primary?

 

[JGalt]

Maybe but MAGA is gaining more daily. Who do you think will win the Primary?

Donald J. Trump and MAGA is the current state of the GOP. I know the left and never-Trumpers have a hard time accepting this and they'll do everything to deny it, but that's the way it is. Every other Republican presidential candidate so far espouses the MAGA platform, even if they're trying to distance themselves from Trump.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Donald J. Trump and MAGA is the current state of the GOP. I know the left and never-Trumpers have a hard time accepting this and they'll do everything to deny it, but that's the way it is. Every other Republican presidential candidate so far espouses the MAGA platform, even if they're trying to distance themselves from Trump.

Thanks for verifying that MAGA = Repub.

 

[JGalt]

Thanks for verifying that MAGA = Repub.

And how is that so bad? Is making America great something you should be ashamed of?

You might have trouble understanding this concept, but there is a world of difference between the left and right, and between the Republican Party and the Democrat Party. Whatever you think of Trump, the GOP, and Republicans, we aren't the ones wanting to deny you your rights.

It's the liberals and Democrats you should be more worried about. In only two decades, they have shifted from liberalism, to Democratic socialism, to full-blown authoritarianism. Meanwhile, we have remained the same. We have basically been the same party since its inception. And contrary to whatever you've been told about Trump, he is no authoritarian. If Trump should be judged, it should be by his actions, not some off the cuff statements he made. And those actions or lack of actions speak far louder than words and actions of those currently in power.

"Of the last three presidents, Trump was either the most indifferent or the most obstructed when it came to using government agencies for his own partisan political advantages or to neuter his enemies.

For the Left, Donald Trump is synonymous with “fascism” (or “semi-fascism,” as Joe Biden put it the other day). And for Liz Cheney and most of the NeverTrumpers, he remains an existential threat to democracy.

But to quantify those charges, what exactly has Trump done extralegally - as opposed to his bombast and braggadocio about what he might have wished to have done?

And what are the standards by which to judge this supposed menace?

Did Trump illegally and with a mere signature nullify over $300 billion of contracted student loans—to firm up his college-student and college-graduate base nine weeks before the midterm elections?

If Trump wished to abuse his power over the IRS, he would have followed the Obama model of weaponizing it during a reelection year to go after his ideological enemies.

Did Trump blatantly use the national security apparatus of the government to enhance his own reelection bid in 2020?

Was Trump ever caught on a hot mic promising a Russian president that he would try to ease Russian worries about Eastern European missile defense if only the Russians would give him space during his 2012 campaign for president against Mitt Romney?

Did Trump weaponize the FBI? That is, did the FBI go after journalists, former Obama officials, or Democratic Party activists who variously were attacking Don Jr. or Ivanka on the pretenses of retrieving one of their lost laptops or diaries?

Are there texts of Trump-era FBI agents talking about how to “stop” Hillary Clinton’s or Biden’s election bid?

Did the Trump Justice Department start an investigation of the suspected illegal lobbying of Joe Biden and Hunter Biden, who used the former’s political connections to win large cash payments from foreign governments?

Did Trump order an FBI raid on the Obama home, on rumors that there were thousands of documents under dispute with the National Archives in his possession, especially given the Obama record of fiercely fighting any Freedom of Information Act lawsuits to release his documents?

Was Jake Sullivan’s phone grabbed by the FBI at an airport to determine his role in the Russian collusion hoax?

Are there now any former Trump loyalists who, as “anonymous” officials in cabinet agencies or obstructionists on the National Security Council, are writing op-eds about their stealthy daily efforts to undermine Biden’s executive orders or his administration’s action?

Are there now “50 former intelligence officials” who signed affidavits in support of Trump’s allegations about the authenticity of Hunter’s laptop?

Between 2017 and 2020, did Trump’s team systematically seek to change the voting laws in key states to radically transform traditional balloting, in a mail-in or early voting revolution, in which only 30 percent of the electorate would vote on Election Day?

Was there any “dark money” effort analogous to the efforts of corporate and tech money along with DNC activists and Biden operators in what Time magazine’s Molly Ball described as a “conspiracy” to ensure the defeat of Trump’s opponent?

How about Trump’s efforts to revolutionize the very system of government? Did he promote a court-packing scheme to ensure he might not just get a 5-4 majority, but perhaps an 11-4 conservative advantage in a new 15-justice Supreme Court?

Did he dream up ways of getting rid of the Electoral College so the “blue wall” might never return?

Did Trump as president meet with CIA and FBI directors who, in their weekly and daily briefings, apprised him of efforts to monitor, spy, and infiltrate the campaign of Joe Biden?

The strange thing about Trump was that he did not use extraordinary powers to investigate anyone unlawfully. He boasted, he railed, he screamed, he whined, he became at times crude and obnoxious. But he did not use the FBI, the CIA, the Justice Department, or the IRS to go after the Obamas, the Clintons, or the Bidens.

In fact, of the last three presidents, Trump was either the most inept or indifferent, or the most obstructed concerning any issue of using government agencies for his own partisan political advantages or to neuter his enemies. "

The Strangest Thing About "Semi-Fascist" Trump | ZeroHedge

 

[Harpy Eagle]

ou might have trouble understanding this concept, but there is a world of difference between the left and right, and between the Republican Party and the Democrat Party. Whatever you think of Trump, the GOP, and Republicans, we aren't the ones wanting to deny you your rights.

No, there is not. They are fundamentally the same once they become elected officials. There is a difference between the rank and file people out in the country, but not in our government