Totally On Brand Trump Fails and Gives Up: "US to Abandoned Peace Talks"

[citygator]

That is true that he ran on settling this terrible war, but he was wrong.

And prices are down, lefty. Again, leftists remain the most uninformed people ever.

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Crashing the economy isnt the price mitigation we were looking for. We were looking for a strong economy with moderate price growth. The 0.1% change in inflation in one month doesnt offset the $6Trillion we all just lost in the stock market and the total collapse in trade that is occurring. You seem smart enough to grasp that.

 

[buckeye]

That's a fine strategy to deal with Russia which is what Biden was doing along with supporting Ukraine... except that isnt what Trump explicitly promised and by abandoning Ukraine Trump makes war more likely.

We didn't abandon Ukraine, they chose to have a hissy fit and refused to negotiate. Let them suffer the consequences.

 

[rightwinger]

The lefts love of War and endless spending Shines through.

Conservatives supported sending US troops to defend Vietnam, Kuwait, Afghanistan and Iraq

Yet, when we send equipment so Ukraine can defend itself, they are outraged.

Republicans are the party of Putin

 

[citygator]

And that led to 3 years of Stalemate.

While the Europeans paid Russia billions for oil and gas.

There is no less stalemate under Trump. The fact is we all know there is no magic silver bullet. It is either grind Russia down with sustained pressure over time or give up. There is no alternative. Russia prays for short attention span and isolationist leadership in the US like Trump and the right wing are advocating.

 

[Mac1958]

Protect yourself against an invasion

This war -- the one in which Putin militarily invaded a sovereign country -- wasn't his fault, you see.

"You MADE me do it" -- The excuse of rapists, wife beaters, murderers and terrorists.

 

[rightwinger]

We didn't abandon Ukraine, they chose to have a hissy fit and refused to negotiate. Let them suffer the consequences.

Ukraine refused to surrender and Trump had a tantrum.
Putin told Trump to go fuk himself and Trump just sits there

 

[citygator]

We didn't abandon Ukraine, they chose to have a hissy fit and refused to negotiate. Let them suffer the consequences.

Dude sat in the White House with Trump telling him "you dont have the cards" give up! Trump is looking for a PR stunt win and Ukraine giving up fits the bill. Ukraine doesnt want to give up. i suspect you wouldnt give up if Russia was at your doorstep either no matter what another nation did to support you or not.

 

[justoffal]

So what happens if his administration blames Russia for the failure of the talks and asks for much tougher sanctions against Russia?

He just did....

 

[martybegan]

There is no less stalemate under Trump. The fact is we all know there is no magic silver bullet. It is either grind Russia down with sustained pressure over time or give up. There is no alternative. Russia prays for short attention span and isolationist leadership in the US like Trump and the right wing are advocating.

So you are mad he isn't perpetuating the stalemate the same way Biden was doing?

Sorry, but thinking Russia will knuckle under after 3 years with the current "pressure" on them is idiotic.

There are two ways to end this in Ukraine's favor. A FULL blockade on all trade by Russia or NATO intervention.

 

[rightwinger]

Dude sat in the White House with Trump telling him "you dont have the cards" give up! Trump is looking for a PR stunt win and Ukraine giving up fits the bill. Ukraine doesnt want to give up. i suspect you wouldnt give up if Russia was at your doorstep either no matter what another nation did to support you or not.

Trump gave Putin all the cards and then screamed at Zelensky….You don’t have the cards!

 

[Correll]

That's a fine strategy to deal with Russia which is what Biden was doing along with supporting Ukraine... except that isnt what Trump explicitly promised ...

So.... you'd support it then?

 

[martybegan]

Trump gave Putin all the cards and then screamed at Zelensky….You don’t have the cards!

It's reality. If you want to win a war you need to accept the reality of your situation.

If you don't, you are just Hillter moving around phantom Divisions and Corps in a bunker.

 

[citygator]

So you are mad he isn't perpetuating the stalemate the same way Biden was doing?

Sorry, but thinking Russia will knuckle under after 3 years with the current "pressure" on them is idiotic.

There are two ways to end this in Ukraine's favor. A FULL blockade on all trade by Russia or NATO intervention.

Took a long time for Russa to buckle the last time. Trade isolation is a good strategy for sure but it could take years and years. The more universal they are applied the better. We all dont want a NATO armed conflict.

 

[citygator]

So.... you'd support it then?

Tougher restrictions? Yea. I would.

 

[martybegan]

Took a long time for Russa to buckle the last time. Trade isolation is a good strategy for sure but it could take years and years. The more universal they are applied the better. We all dont want a NATO armed conflict.

Which time?

 

[martybegan]

Tougher restrictions? Yea. I would.

Then let Europe cut off all buying of Russian Oil and Gas first.

They can do it any time they want to, it's spring now so heating isn't the issue it was during the winter.

 

[eagle1462010]

Trump gave Putin all the cards and then screamed at Zelensky….You don’t have the cards!

Without Direct NATO Troops Ukraine cant win. Direct NATO involvement will mean WWIII.

 

[citygator]

Which time?

The total collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. The fundamental factors that contributed to collapse, including economic stagnation and the overextension of the military, were rooted in Soviet policies, but the Cold War and the U.S. policy of containment played a role as well.

 

[eagle1462010]

Then let Europe cut off all buying of Russian Oil and Gas first.

They can do it any time they want to, it's spring now so heating isn't the issue it was during the winter.

They were buying all the time throughout the War. Bunch of Fucking Hypocrites.

 

[citygator]

Without Direct NATO Troops Ukraine cant win. Direct NATO involvement will mean WWIII.

I dont agree. Troops dont win wars anymore.