Top 4 Obamacare Complaints

[deltex1]

Complaint #1: I can't log in

Complaint #2: My info's not right

Complaint #3: The costs are too high

Complaint #4: My employer is raising my premiums because of Obamacare

Top 4 Obamacare Complaints - Yahoo Finance

No one is more upset than Obabble....hissef.


He be one pissed off neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeegro.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Complaint #1: I can't log in

Complaint #2: My info's not right

Complaint #3: The costs are too high

Complaint #4: My employer is raising my premiums because of Obamacare

Top 4 Obamacare Complaints - Yahoo Finance

Good news yurt

Starting January 1, the government has declared that only they will be allowed to determine what a nightmare is.

That's gotta ease your mind!

All we had to do was use Canada's system as a model. Try taking their health care away from them. Pry it out of their cold, dead hands. Not going to happen.

So supposedly we used Romney's system from Massachusetts. Except somewhere along the way it got driven into a ditch by the fucking Republicans.

And oh yeah, ask your average resident of Massachusetts if THEY want to get rid of their health care system....Just try.

 

[Wry Catcher]

I just got a letter from my insurance company saying that i "now have an opportunity to access coverage under the provisions of ACA".

Translation: We're dropping you and now you get to be part of the worst piece of domestic legislation in America's history.

I was paying $400 a year with this Insurance company. .....

Oh cry me a river.....

$400 a year? LMAO, what did it cover and what were it's limits. I think you're one more lying SOB.

I pay $306.66 each month and my former employer pays $945.58 per month, our combined premium is $1,252.24. There is no limit in the cost of my care; I pay $10 co-pay and $10 for drugs. Preventative services are free (annual physical, screening for colon cancer, etc.).

 

[Amelia]

Bulloney, the poor and uninsured receive emergency room care at public and private hospitals. Private hospitals charged the care under costs determined by Chargemaster, with no insurance company or Medicare watchdog, the costs were highly inflated. When stable the patient was transferred to a county/public hospital on the local taxpayers dime and the for profit or non profit hospital charged off inflated fees to off-set their bottom line.

Please name the poor who were ineligible to be insured under Medicaid prior to Obamacare. Take your time. I'll wait.

All of the poor between the ages of 18 and the month they turned 65

Now admittedly Obamacare has mandated that more affluent people now be qualified for Medicaid which is why some 26 states have opted out of that system altogether and the Supreme Court agreed with them that they could.

I don't know why 26 states opted out (are you sure of the number?) nor do I know what reason (or excuse) was used to deny residents of their State without insurance or with a preexisting condition an opportunity for health insurance.

If government had stayed out of healthcare altogether in the first place, however, I'm pretty sure the insurance companies would be offering affordable insurance packages to the people. They would have to in order to stay in business.

You're serious? Wow, how many liters of Kool-Aid do you consume daily.

Is the red your response to Foxfyre's post? It's confusing.

I don't think all poor people were eligible for Medicaid before ACA. However, I don't think all poor people 18 and 65 were ineligible either. Some states accepted more people into the program, some less, but it's definitely been for people of pre-retirement-age. Sounds like you might be confusing Medicaid with Medicare.

 

[deltex1]

Reagan was "the Gipper". Obabble is "the Glitcher".

 

[ScreamingEagle]

The cold war is over, dude.

Alas, it sometimes seems as if the bigger threat to America since the Soviet Union went belly up is a resurgence of fascism all over the word.

Including here in the good ol' boy USA.

communism/socialism is not a cold war dude.....it's an idea.....and fascism is part of it....

leftism is an idea that the progressives have been slowly implementing over the decades.....Obamacare is simply the most recent manifestation of it.....

much more of this shit and the good ol' USA is going to disappear...

Let me know if you want to give up your 40 hour work week and your paid vactions and all those other progressive gains you likely take for granted.

If you want to work 12 hours a day six days a week, well just say so. No doubt, there are plenty of corporations who would willingly take you under those conditions. And the whole 'Bring Your Child to Work Day' would take on entirely new significance since they might just get hired on the spot. No need for skool and all that book lernin when you can all car pool to work together. Matter of fact, no doubt you could live right on the premises in a nice barracks the company could set up fer you. And you kin shop at the company store an' everythang.

Best not be caught readin' any Steinbeck, though.

what do you mean a "40 hour work week".....? you're living in the past...

things are 'progressing' don'cha know.......now it's a 29 hour work week....

so to afford anything you got to get 2 jobs.....and the 'progressive' State wants its grimy hands on your kids at the earliest they can get them...

 

[Foxfyre]

I just got a letter from my insurance company saying that i "now have an opportunity to access coverage under the provisions of ACA".

Translation: We're dropping you and now you get to be part of the worst piece of domestic legislation in America's history.

I was paying $400 a year with this Insurance company. I wonder how much more i'll be forced to pay when i get signed up for Boondogglecare (if i can ever access the fucked-up website).

If nothing else in the world could persuade Obama worshippers of the folly of this boondoggle, that 'fucked up' website should. The government has had four years and has spent hundreds and hundreds of our tax dollars (or passed the bill on to our grandchildren) to create a website that would allow Obamacare to work. And it has been a total disaster.

Four years. Hundreds of millions of dollars. And they couldn't produce a product that would work. But you same people want the same government to have whatever control over our healthcare that it chooses to have. And believes every P.R. lie they put out there for the gullible to gobble up despite:
Obama said
-- it would save tax dollars. (Fact: it will cost mega billions if not trillions more.)

-- If we like our current healthcare plan we can keep it. (Fact: millions are losing their healthcare coverage and are being forced to go without or use the government exchange.)

-- If we like our doctor we can keep him. (Fact: my husband and I have both lost our primary physicians purely due to Obamacare.)

--- Premiums for the young and healthy will go up a bit - will go down for most Americans. (Fact: that is true for some living in California or New York State. Almost everywhere else a lot of people, including those of us on fixed incomes, are seeing huge increase in our premiums.)

We have been lied to again and again and again, and yet the Obama worshippers keep waving their flags and dutifully chirping the assigned talking points.

It is mind boggling.

October 21, 2013 2:14 pm

NBC’s Chuck Todd bluntly asked White House spokesman Jay Carney Monday who “misled” President Obama by letting him make promises about the Obamacare website that it has been simply unable to meet.

Carney said Obama was frustrated and focused on making improvements, but Todd kept asking who “let him down” and continued to pound away at the administration’s inability to explain what has gone so wrong with the website:

CHUCK TODD: Five days before the launch, the president said it’s a website where you can compare and purchase affordable health care plans, the same way you shop for a plane ticket on Kayak. Who misled him? Who misled the president on this? Are you telling me five days before that somebody let the president go out to the American public to give this speech and say this and make this promise? In fact, the next line is: I promise you, this is a lot easier, it’s like booking a hotel or plane ticket. Who let him down?

JAY CARNEY: The president’s frustrated. He made that clear in his remarks today, and we’re focused on making improvements so that the millions of Americans who want affordable health insurance are getting the best consumer experience possible, as opposed to Monday morning quarterbacking.

TODD: Is he let down? Did somebody –

CARNEY: Again, what I’ll tell you as I mentioned earlier, I think, is that there’s no question that the volumes exceeded substantially expectations and that the testing that was done was based on –

TODD: Adding a server would have fixed it in a heartbeat. That isn’t the issue, right?

CARNEY: I”m pretty confident you’re not a –

TODD: I am not a computer science guy.

CARNEY: – you haven’t written code in your day.

TODD: I understand that but if this were simply a traffic issue, that’s fixable fast, isn’t it?

CARNEY: What I would tell you is, as I said earlier, is that the volume far exceeded expectation and the volume both created problems because of how large it was and exposed other problems and glitches and kinks with the system that are being addressed. You’re not going to get an argument from here that this has not been frustrating. The president himself made that clear, but what he’s focused on is making the consumer experience better for Americans, because even through this process, nearly 20 million folks — there have been nearly 20 million visits to healthcare.gov. That demonstrates a sustained interest in the array of affordable health care options available to the millions of Americans who haven’t had these options available to them in the past.

TODD: Why should we assume, when HHS puts out in this blog post last night, that they brought in this tech surge, brought in people on the outside? That seems to send the message they don’t know what the problem is. Is that fair? Shouldn’t you assume — you do know what the problem is?

CARNEY: I think you should assume that they’ve identified problems and glitches that need to be fixed and that they brought in this team to continue the effort and put in place the tools and processes to monitor and identify parts of the website where individuals are examining –

TODD: If you knew the problems, would you not be screaming up and down, ‘We have found the problem, we’re working on a solution.’

CARNEY: I think we are finding problems and we’re working on solutions. I can’t — When you have tech experts at any major tech operation, you’re constantly monitoring your operations, finding glitches and problems and fixing them, and that’s what they’re doing here.
Todd Takes Carney to Task Over Obamacare Flop: 'Who Misled the President on This? | Washington Free Beacon

 

[Yurt]

Complaint #1: I can't log in

Complaint #2: My info's not right

Complaint #3: The costs are too high

Complaint #4: My employer is raising my premiums because of Obamacare

Top 4 Obamacare Complaints - Yahoo Finance

Good news yurt

Starting January 1, the government has declared that only they will be allowed to determine what a nightmare is.

That's gotta ease your mind!

All we had to do was use Canada's system as a model. Try taking their health care away from them. Pry it out of their cold, dead hands. Not going to happen.

So supposedly we used Romney's system from Massachusetts. Except somewhere along the way it got driven into a ditch by the fucking Republicans.

And oh yeah, ask your average resident of Massachusetts if THEY want to get rid of their health care system....Just try.

and yet many canadians come to the US for healthcare

facts, learn them

 

[francoHFW]

O-care hasn't started yet- now your insurance is no longer a scam- it's guaranteed, so some may go up.

Call the 800 number if you're freaked- try again in a month otherwise, and relax...

 

[Mustang]

Good news yurt

Starting January 1, the government has declared that only they will be allowed to determine what a nightmare is.

That's gotta ease your mind!

All we had to do was use Canada's system as a model. Try taking their health care away from them. Pry it out of their cold, dead hands. Not going to happen.

So supposedly we used Romney's system from Massachusetts. Except somewhere along the way it got driven into a ditch by the fucking Republicans.

And oh yeah, ask your average resident of Massachusetts if THEY want to get rid of their health care system....Just try.

and yet many canadians come to the US for healthcare

facts, learn them

And Americans flock to both Canada and Mexico for prescription drugs and medical care. In fact, a few years ago a conservate radio host was running ads on his show for medical and/or dental care in some country in Europe. I think it may have been Hungary, but I don't remember exactly.

The fact is that people with money will fly almost anywhere to get the care they want if it's for the right price, or to get treatment that's not approved or available in their own country, or to see a particular doctor who's well regarded in his particular field.

And, if abortion is ever outlawed in this country, I can assure you that wealthy women will fly to Canada or Europe where they can get one.

 

[Annie]

an example of how the middle class is being destroyed by Obama and his marxist redistribution program....

Do tell.

What about the ACA is "marxist".

Include some proof as well..in the form of links.

Thanks in advance.

It is Marxist because it exists on the concept that the haves according to their means will provide for the have nots according to their needs.

It's Marxist in concept, though the have nots would be truly screwed if they sign up for Bronze plan. Huge deductibles for those least able to pay. Huge co-pays and little if any coverage for meds. After deductible pays 1/2 of medical costs.

For the truly poor, they get medicaid-which most docs will no longer accept.

So, it's a lose/lose for everyone and more of the economy will be destroyed.

 

[Mustang]

an example of how the middle class is being destroyed by Obama and his marxist redistribution program....

Do tell.

What about the ACA is "marxist".

Include some proof as well..in the form of links.

Thanks in advance.

It is Marxist because it exists on the concept that the haves according to their means will provide for the have nots according to their needs.

What do you think insurance does? If you're against the concept of a collective, pay for your own heart surgery or cancer treatments out of your own pocket instead of expecting someone else to pay for it when you put in a claim.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Absolutely. The most galling insult to intelligence is his saying that Obamacare is to take care of the poor and needy. Bullshit. The poor and needy were already covered quite well with healthcare that most of the world can only envy. You are absolutely correct that the whole purpose of Obamacare is to put all of the people under the thumb of government. And the Obama worshippers are just cheering him on.

On my Decline of the American Empire thread, I held out hope that this generation still had some power to stop the loss of all our liberties to an ever more authoritarian, even totalitarian, government.

I may have just been engaged in a fool's errand, however.

Bulloney, the poor and uninsured receive emergency room care at public and private hospitals. Private hospitals charged the care under costs determined by Chargemaster, with no insurance company or Medicare watchdog, the costs were highly inflated. When stable the patient was transferred to a county/public hospital on the local taxpayers dime and the for profit or non profit hospital charged off inflated fees to off-set their bottom line.

Please name the poor who were ineligible to be insured under Medicaid prior to Obamacare. Take your time. I'll wait.

Now admittedly Obamacare has mandated that more affluent people now be qualified for Medicaid which is why some 26 states have opted out of that system altogether and the Supreme Court agreed with them that they could.

If government had stayed out of healthcare altogether in the first place, however, I'm pretty sure the insurance companies would be offering affordable insurance packages to the people. They would have to in order to stay in business.

I read an accounting of a story in my local rag( lib newspaper) that told of a woman who has no job and because of this she was ineligible for ACA or Medicaid.
That one left me scratching my head.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Complaint #1: I can't log in

Complaint #2: My info's not right

Complaint #3: The costs are too high

Complaint #4: My employer is raising my premiums because of Obamacare

Top 4 Obamacare Complaints - Yahoo Finance

Good news yurt

Starting January 1, the government has declared that only they will be allowed to determine what a nightmare is.

That's gotta ease your mind!

All we had to do was use Canada's system as a model. Try taking their health care away from them. Pry it out of their cold, dead hands. Not going to happen.

So supposedly we used Romney's system from Massachusetts. Except somewhere along the way it got driven into a ditch by the fucking Republicans.

And oh yeah, ask your average resident of Massachusetts if THEY want to get rid of their health care system....Just try.

Koch-sucking sluts.

Why do you hate women so?

 

[thereisnospoon]

Obamacare is just a part of the class struggle....notice how Obama in his speech today addressed the poor and needy....his proleteriat....

a socialist order is the goal....with communism ultimately replacing capitalism....Obama's goal is to take healthcare out of the free market and place it under Government control.....

Absolutely. The most galling insult to intelligence is his saying that Obamacare is to take care of the poor and needy. Bullshit. The poor and needy were already covered quite well with healthcare that most of the world can only envy. You are absolutely correct that the whole purpose of Obamacare is to put all of the people under the thumb of government. And the Obama worshippers are just cheering him on.

On my Decline of the American Empire thread, I held out hope that this generation still had some power to stop the loss of all our liberties to an ever more authoritarian, even totalitarian, government.

I may have just been engaged in a fool's errand, however.

Bulloney, the poor and uninsured receive emergency room care at public and private hospitals. Private hospitals charged the care under costs determined by Chargemaster, with no insurance company or Medicare watchdog, the costs were highly inflated. When stable the patient was transferred to a county/public hospital on the local taxpayers dime and the for profit or non profit hospital charged off inflated fees to off-set their bottom line.

Most people are unaware of the built in charges for the purpose of treating indigent patients.
Obamacare does nothing to address this, nor does it address the over 10 million that will be left uninsured....
Obamacare increases the possibility of medical facilities having to treat indigent patients.

 

[Pop23]

Complaint #1: I can't log in

Complaint #2: My info's not right

Complaint #3: The costs are too high

Complaint #4: My employer is raising my premiums because of Obamacare

Top 4 Obamacare Complaints - Yahoo Finance

Good news yurt

Starting January 1, the government has declared that only they will be allowed to determine what a nightmare is.

That's gotta ease your mind!

All we had to do was use Canada's system as a model. Try taking their health care away from them. Pry it out of their cold, dead hands. Not going to happen.

So supposedly we used Romney's system from Massachusetts. Except somewhere along the way it got driven into a ditch by the fucking Republicans.

And oh yeah, ask your average resident of Massachusetts if THEY want to get rid of their health care system....Just try.

See, how easy that was!

Just let everybody determine YOUR nightmare for you. Why didn't we think of this centuries ago!

Oh wait, we did.

 

[Foxfyre]

Do tell.

What about the ACA is "marxist".

Include some proof as well..in the form of links.

Thanks in advance.

It is Marxist because it exists on the concept that the haves according to their means will provide for the have nots according to their needs.

It's Marxist in concept, though the have nots would be truly screwed if they sign up for Bronze plan. Huge deductibles for those least able to pay. Huge co-pays and little if any coverage for meds. After deductible pays 1/2 of medical costs.

For the truly poor, they get medicaid-which most docs will no longer accept.

So, it's a lose/lose for everyone and more of the economy will be destroyed.

Well, we know that people in general are screwed under Marxist concepts regardless of the socioeconomic factor being considered. The wealthier will flee to more sensible climes if they can, but if they cannot and they are stripped of their property and means of production, they can longer provide opportunity for anybody else. And as the poor never could provide opportunity for anybody other than self-serving politicians and bureaucrats, the poor will become poorer and the culture will no longer be comducive to anybody escaping poverty. The lucky ones will escape to other countries. Most won't.

The Obama worshippers simply cannot bring themselves to understand or embrace free market principles. And they close their eyes and shut off their minds to the fact that if Obamacare indeed sucks as badly next year and beyond as it does now, they will have nowhere else to go because the free market for healthcare will have been destroyed.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Complaint #1: I can't log in

Complaint #2: My info's not right

Complaint #3: The costs are too high

Complaint #4: My employer is raising my premiums because of Obamacare

Top 4 Obamacare Complaints - Yahoo Finance

Then come up with a solution because when my spouse had cancer:

1. I couldn't get the insurance company to confirm diagnosis, therefore no chemo.

2. The oncologist told us he would take our insurance and then said he wouldn't.

3. We were hit with secondary and tertiary physican's bills who were not in our network.

4. The insurance company, Empire Blue, didn't pay the bills for over six months so we were getting dunned by the doc's office.

5. The final bill for my spouse's care came to $1,300,000.00 for three years.

So shut the fuck up or come up with a better plan than this.

Oh, and let me add that this insurance was through a major Ivy League university where my spouse worked....Not Podunk, AL.

Did you read the language of your policy regarding coverage limits? Or did you assume the policy was open ended?
Did you ask WHY the oncologist reversed himself? Why did you not find another oncologist that would accept your carrier?

Do you think ACA is an on demand supplier of medical insurance for ANY and ALL care?
Think again....
Obamacare is not a panacea. There is just as much, if not more bureaucracy and gate keeping as now.
Go read the parts of the ACA law regarding "The Secretary"( Of Health and Human Services)...That office and the bureaucrats appointed to administer ACA have absolute authority over care, expense, type of care and who receives care.
Every single alternative idea the GOP presented was shot down by the democrats.
Especially those proposals where competition across state lines among insurers was suggested.
The bottom line is they (Obama and the democrat leadership) wanted their Obamacare. not because the law would serve the people, but because they wanted a big win.

 

[Sarah G]

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- The state Controlling Board appeared poised Monday to grant a request from Gov. John Kasich’s administration to appropriate the money that would pay to expand Medicaid to cover Ohio’s working poor.

Follow Robert Higgs' coverage of the meeting live in the comments section »

The approval would clear the way for the state to expand the health care insurance program beginning Jan. 1, 2014. Greg Moody, director of the state’s Office of Health Transformation, has said it is expected that 275,000 Ohioans who don’t have health care coverage now would benefit. At least half of those people hold jobs that don’t provide health plans, he has said.

Controlling Board poised to grant Kasich's request to expand Medicaid to cover working poor | cleveland.com

Looks like Kasich came to his senses...

 

[Yurt]

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- The state Controlling Board appeared poised Monday to grant a request from Gov. John Kasich’s administration to appropriate the money that would pay to expand Medicaid to cover Ohio’s working poor.

Follow Robert Higgs' coverage of the meeting live in the comments section »

The approval would clear the way for the state to expand the health care insurance program beginning Jan. 1, 2014. Greg Moody, director of the state’s Office of Health Transformation, has said it is expected that 275,000 Ohioans who don’t have health care coverage now would benefit. At least half of those people hold jobs that don’t provide health plans, he has said.

Controlling Board poised to grant Kasich's request to expand Medicaid to cover working poor | cleveland.com

Looks like Kasich came to his senses...

and that is exactly why obamacare is useless. we need to do this, not obamacare.