Toddler dies because anti-vac parents gave an herbal remedy for meningitis. They are now on trial.

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This is what happens when you trust unqualified quacks more than proven science. Now they'll spend the rest of their lives regretting their ignorance.

A toddler got meningitis. His anti-vac parents gave him an herbal remedy. The toddler died. Now his parents are on trial.

On March 5, the Canadian government opened its trial against David and Collet. The charge: failing to provide their 19-month-old son, Ezekiel, the necessaries of life. According to prosecutors, David and Collet stubbornly refused to take their sick son to see a doctor, instead giving him home remedies such as smoothies containing hot pepper, ginger root, horseradish, onion and apple cider vinegar. Even after warnings from a family friend who is a nurse, the anti-vaccine couple took him to a naturopath for echinacea — an herb believed to stimulate the immune system — instead of to a doctor for an exam.
 
the sickness that afflicted the kid can GO LIKE WILDFIRE from "nothing
with nothing"-----for a whole day------to sudden deterioration-------in 20 minutes
 
This is what happens when you trust unqualified quacks more than proven science. Now they'll spend the rest of their lives regretting their ignorance.

A toddler got meningitis. His anti-vac parents gave him an herbal remedy. The toddler died. Now his parents are on trial.

On March 5, the Canadian government opened its trial against David and Collet. The charge: failing to provide their 19-month-old son, Ezekiel, the necessaries of life. According to prosecutors, David and Collet stubbornly refused to take their sick son to see a doctor, instead giving him home remedies such as smoothies containing hot pepper, ginger root, horseradish, onion and apple cider vinegar. Even after warnings from a family friend who is a nurse, the anti-vaccine couple took him to a naturopath for echinacea — an herb believed to stimulate the immune system — instead of to a doctor for an exam.

What does that have to do with being anti-vaccine?
 
This is what happens when you trust unqualified quacks more than proven science. Now they'll spend the rest of their lives regretting their ignorance.

A toddler got meningitis. His anti-vac parents gave him an herbal remedy. The toddler died. Now his parents are on trial.

On March 5, the Canadian government opened its trial against David and Collet. The charge: failing to provide their 19-month-old son, Ezekiel, the necessaries of life. According to prosecutors, David and Collet stubbornly refused to take their sick son to see a doctor, instead giving him home remedies such as smoothies containing hot pepper, ginger root, horseradish, onion and apple cider vinegar. Even after warnings from a family friend who is a nurse, the anti-vaccine couple took him to a naturopath for echinacea — an herb believed to stimulate the immune system — instead of to a doctor for an exam.

Tell me do you know if this was viral or bacterial meningitis?
If it was the latter a vaccine would not have helped
 
A woman can abort her child at any time during labor. But bear the child and not believe in science, and you will go to jail. LOL what a fuckin joke
 
This is what happens when you trust unqualified quacks more than proven science. Now they'll spend the rest of their lives regretting their ignorance.

A toddler got meningitis. His anti-vac parents gave him an herbal remedy. The toddler died. Now his parents are on trial.

On March 5, the Canadian government opened its trial against David and Collet. The charge: failing to provide their 19-month-old son, Ezekiel, the necessaries of life. According to prosecutors, David and Collet stubbornly refused to take their sick son to see a doctor, instead giving him home remedies such as smoothies containing hot pepper, ginger root, horseradish, onion and apple cider vinegar. Even after warnings from a family friend who is a nurse, the anti-vaccine couple took him to a naturopath for echinacea — an herb believed to stimulate the immune system — instead of to a doctor for an exam.

Tell me do you know if this was viral or bacterial meningitis?
If it was the latter a vaccine would not have helped

Nor the former. You cannot vaccinate every child for every known virus.
 
This is what happens when you trust unqualified quacks more than proven science. Now they'll spend the rest of their lives regretting their ignorance.

A toddler got meningitis. His anti-vac parents gave him an herbal remedy. The toddler died. Now his parents are on trial.

On March 5, the Canadian government opened its trial against David and Collet. The charge: failing to provide their 19-month-old son, Ezekiel, the necessaries of life. According to prosecutors, David and Collet stubbornly refused to take their sick son to see a doctor, instead giving him home remedies such as smoothies containing hot pepper, ginger root, horseradish, onion and apple cider vinegar. Even after warnings from a family friend who is a nurse, the anti-vaccine couple took him to a naturopath for echinacea — an herb believed to stimulate the immune system — instead of to a doctor for an exam.

What does that have to do with being anti-vaccine?

nothing-------the weird anti-vaccine stance is not usually construed as
"neglect"----------but it will do them NO GOOD with the jury
 
This is what happens when you trust unqualified quacks more than proven science. Now they'll spend the rest of their lives regretting their ignorance.

A toddler got meningitis. His anti-vac parents gave him an herbal remedy. The toddler died. Now his parents are on trial.

On March 5, the Canadian government opened its trial against David and Collet. The charge: failing to provide their 19-month-old son, Ezekiel, the necessaries of life. According to prosecutors, David and Collet stubbornly refused to take their sick son to see a doctor, instead giving him home remedies such as smoothies containing hot pepper, ginger root, horseradish, onion and apple cider vinegar. Even after warnings from a family friend who is a nurse, the anti-vaccine couple took him to a naturopath for echinacea — an herb believed to stimulate the immune system — instead of to a doctor for an exam.

What does that have to do with being anti-vaccine?

nothing-------the weird anti-vaccine stance is not usually construed as
"neglect"----------but it will do them NO GOOD with the jury

Agreed, and it shouldnt.
 
Heartbreaking. Like Rosie said, though, it might not have mattered what they did. Meningitis can kill with the best of care.
That said, when cases like this come up, it always ends up being the parents' right to choose the medical care their children receive, and the kids die. Herbal remedies are just pharmaceuticals in the raw. What is sad is people who somehow think the active ingredients in herbal remedies are different than the ones produced in a pharma factory. If you use herbals, there is no ideological reason not to use prescription drugs. So their kid died when he might have been saved. Kids dying due to disease used to happen so often that it wasn't news and parents didn't expect all their kids to survive to adulthood. Those were the bad old days and the parents now insisting on harking back to that time are MAD, in IMO.
 
This is what happens when you trust unqualified quacks more than proven science. Now they'll spend the rest of their lives regretting their ignorance.

A todd opened its trial against David and Collet. The charge: failing to provide their 19-month-old son, Ezekiel, the necessaries of life. According to prosecutors, David and Collet stubbornly refused to take their sick son to see a doctor, instead giving him home remedies such as smoothies containing hot pepper, ginger root, horseradish, onion and apple cider vinegar. Even after warnings from a family friend who is a nurse, the anti-vaccine couple took him to a naturopath for echinacea — an herb believed to stimulate the immune system — instead of to a doctor for an exam.

Tell me do you know if this was viral or bacterial meningitis?
If it was the latter a vaccine would not have helped
This is what happens when you trust unqualified quacks more than proven science. Now they'll spend the rest of their lives regretting their ignorance.

A toddler got meningitis. His anti-vac parents gave him an herbal remedy. The toddler died. Now his parents are on trial.

On March 5, the Canadian government opened its trial against David and Collet. The charge: failing to provide their 19-month-old son, Ezekiel, the necessaries of life. According to prosecutors, David and Collet stubbornly refused to take their sick son to see a doctor, instead giving him home remedies such as smoothies containing hot pepper, ginger root, horseradish, onion and apple cider vinegar. Even after warnings from a family friend who is a nurse, the anti-vaccine couple took him to a naturopath for echinacea — an herb believed to stimulate the immune system — instead of to a doctor for an exam.

What does that have to do with being anti-vaccine?

I only mentioned it because the article did. The main issue was their refusal to consult a real doctor rather than some quack.
 
This is what happens when you trust unqualified quacks more than proven science. Now they'll spend the rest of their lives regretting their ignorance.

A todd opened its trial against David and Collet. The charge: failing to provide their 19-month-old son, Ezekiel, the necessaries of life. According to prosecutors, David and Collet stubbornly refused to take their sick son to see a doctor, instead giving him home remedies such as smoothies containing hot pepper, ginger root, horseradish, onion and apple cider vinegar. Even after warnings from a family friend who is a nurse, the anti-vaccine couple took him to a naturopath for echinacea — an herb believed to stimulate the immune system — instead of to a doctor for an exam.

Tell me do you know if this was viral or bacterial meningitis?
If it was the latter a vaccine would not have helped
This is what happens when you trust unqualified quacks more than proven science. Now they'll spend the rest of their lives regretting their ignorance.

A toddler got meningitis. His anti-vac parents gave him an herbal remedy. The toddler died. Now his parents are on trial.

On March 5, the Canadian government opened its trial against David and Collet. The charge: failing to provide their 19-month-old son, Ezekiel, the necessaries of life. According to prosecutors, David and Collet stubbornly refused to take their sick son to see a doctor, instead giving him home remedies such as smoothies containing hot pepper, ginger root, horseradish, onion and apple cider vinegar. Even after warnings from a family friend who is a nurse, the anti-vaccine couple took him to a naturopath for echinacea — an herb believed to stimulate the immune system — instead of to a doctor for an exam.

What does that have to do with being anti-vaccine?

I only mentioned it because the article did. The main issue was their refusal to consult a real doctor rather than some quack.

I take the side of letting the parents care for their kids as they see fit.
 
This is what happens when you trust unqualified quacks more than proven science. Now they'll spend the rest of their lives regretting their ignorance.

A todd opened its trial against David and Collet. The charge: failing to provide their 19-month-old son, Ezekiel, the necessaries of life. According to prosecutors, David and Collet stubbornly refused to take their sick son to see a doctor, instead giving him home remedies such as smoothies containing hot pepper, ginger root, horseradish, onion and apple cider vinegar. Even after warnings from a family friend who is a nurse, the anti-vaccine couple took him to a naturopath for echinacea — an herb believed to stimulate the immune system — instead of to a doctor for an exam.

Tell me do you know if this was viral or bacterial meningitis?
If it was the latter a vaccine would not have helped
This is what happens when you trust unqualified quacks more than proven science. Now they'll spend the rest of their lives regretting their ignorance.

A toddler got meningitis. His anti-vac parents gave him an herbal remedy. The toddler died. Now his parents are on trial.

On March 5, the Canadian government opened its trial against David and Collet. The charge: failing to provide their 19-month-old son, Ezekiel, the necessaries of life. According to prosecutors, David and Collet stubbornly refused to take their sick son to see a doctor, instead giving him home remedies such as smoothies containing hot pepper, ginger root, horseradish, onion and apple cider vinegar. Even after warnings from a family friend who is a nurse, the anti-vaccine couple took him to a naturopath for echinacea — an herb believed to stimulate the immune system — instead of to a doctor for an exam.

What does that have to do with being anti-vaccine?

I only mentioned it because the article did. The main issue was their refusal to consult a real doctor rather than some quack.

I take the side of letting the parents care for their kids as they see fit.

I agree, to a point. When you endanger the child's life, you are responsible.
 
This is what happens when you trust unqualified quacks more than proven science. Now they'll spend the rest of their lives regretting their ignorance.

A todd opened its trial against David and Collet. The charge: failing to provide their 19-month-old son, Ezekiel, the necessaries of life. According to prosecutors, David and Collet stubbornly refused to take their sick son to see a doctor, instead giving him home remedies such as smoothies containing hot pepper, ginger root, horseradish, onion and apple cider vinegar. Even after warnings from a family friend who is a nurse, the anti-vaccine couple took him to a naturopath for echinacea — an herb believed to stimulate the immune system — instead of to a doctor for an exam.

Tell me do you know if this was viral or bacterial meningitis?
If it was the latter a vaccine would not have helped
This is what happens when you trust unqualified quacks more than proven science. Now they'll spend the rest of their lives regretting their ignorance.

A toddler got meningitis. His anti-vac parents gave him an herbal remedy. The toddler died. Now his parents are on trial.

On March 5, the Canadian government opened its trial against David and Collet. The charge: failing to provide their 19-month-old son, Ezekiel, the necessaries of life. According to prosecutors, David and Collet stubbornly refused to take their sick son to see a doctor, instead giving him home remedies such as smoothies containing hot pepper, ginger root, horseradish, onion and apple cider vinegar. Even after warnings from a family friend who is a nurse, the anti-vaccine couple took him to a naturopath for echinacea — an herb believed to stimulate the immune system — instead of to a doctor for an exam.

What does that have to do with being anti-vaccine?

I only mentioned it because the article did. The main issue was their refusal to consult a real doctor rather than some quack.

I take the side of letting the parents care for their kids as they see fit.

Even when their ignorance will result in the death of an innocent?
 
This is what happens when you trust unqualified quacks more than proven science. Now they'll spend the rest of their lives regretting their ignorance.

A todd opened its trial against David and Collet. The charge: failing to provide their 19-month-old son, Ezekiel, the necessaries of life. According to prosecutors, David and Collet stubbornly refused to take their sick son to see a doctor, instead giving him home remedies such as smoothies containing hot pepper, ginger root, horseradish, onion and apple cider vinegar. Even after warnings from a family friend who is a nurse, the anti-vaccine couple took him to a naturopath for echinacea — an herb believed to stimulate the immune system — instead of to a doctor for an exam.

Tell me do you know if this was viral or bacterial meningitis?
If it was the latter a vaccine would not have helped
This is what happens when you trust unqualified quacks more than proven science. Now they'll spend the rest of their lives regretting their ignorance.

A toddler got meningitis. His anti-vac parents gave him an herbal remedy. The toddler died. Now his parents are on trial.

On March 5, the Canadian government opened its trial against David and Collet. The charge: failing to provide their 19-month-old son, Ezekiel, the necessaries of life. According to prosecutors, David and Collet stubbornly refused to take their sick son to see a doctor, instead giving him home remedies such as smoothies containing hot pepper, ginger root, horseradish, onion and apple cider vinegar. Even after warnings from a family friend who is a nurse, the anti-vaccine couple took him to a naturopath for echinacea — an herb believed to stimulate the immune system — instead of to a doctor for an exam.

What does that have to do with being anti-vaccine?

I only mentioned it because the article did. The main issue was their refusal to consult a real doctor rather than some quack.

I take the side of letting the parents care for their kids as they see fit.

Even when their ignorance will result in the death of an innocent?

Yes.
 
This is what happens when you trust unqualified quacks more than proven science. Now they'll spend the rest of their lives regretting their ignorance.

A todd opened its trial against David and Collet. The charge: failing to provide their 19-month-old son, Ezekiel, the necessaries of life. According to prosecutors, David and Collet stubbornly refused to take their sick son to see a doctor, instead giving him home remedies such as smoothies containing hot pepper, ginger root, horseradish, onion and apple cider vinegar. Even after warnings from a family friend who is a nurse, the anti-vaccine couple took him to a naturopath for echinacea — an herb believed to stimulate the immune system — instead of to a doctor for an exam.

Tell me do you know if this was viral or bacterial meningitis?
If it was the latter a vaccine would not have helped
This is what happens when you trust unqualified quacks more than proven science. Now they'll spend the rest of their lives regretting their ignorance.

A toddler got meningitis. His anti-vac parents gave him an herbal remedy. The toddler died. Now his parents are on trial.

On March 5, the Canadian government opened its trial against David and Collet. The charge: failing to provide their 19-month-old son, Ezekiel, the necessaries of life. According to prosecutors, David and Collet stubbornly refused to take their sick son to see a doctor, instead giving him home remedies such as smoothies containing hot pepper, ginger root, horseradish, onion and apple cider vinegar. Even after warnings from a family friend who is a nurse, the anti-vaccine couple took him to a naturopath for echinacea — an herb believed to stimulate the immune system — instead of to a doctor for an exam.

What does that have to do with being anti-vaccine?

I only mentioned it because the article did. The main issue was their refusal to consult a real doctor rather than some quack.

I take the side of letting the parents care for their kids as they see fit.

Even when their ignorance will result in the death of an innocent?

Yes.

What about if the parents think taking care of their kids includes beating that results in their kids death?
 
The question is whether or not Parents have ANY obligation to provide reasonable medical care to their children. In this case, the parents decided to ignore the advice of a medical professional, and avoided traditional medicine that would likely have saved their child's life.

Jehovah's witnesses do not believe in blood transfusions- should they be allowed to deny their child a blood transfusion that will save the child's life? IF parents have the authority to deny medical care to their child- then at what point does anything become neglect?

According to prosecutors, David and Collet stubbornly refused to take their sick son to see a doctor, instead giving him home remedies such as smoothies containing hot pepper, ginger root, horseradish, onion and apple cider vinegar. Even after warnings from a family friend who is a nurse, the anti-vaccine couple took him to a naturopath for echinacea — an herb believed to stimulate the immune system — instead of to a doctor for an exam.


It was only when Ezekiel began to have trouble breathing that they rushed him to a hospital, prosecutors said.


By then, it was too late.


Ezekiel died from bacterial meningitis and empyema, two conditions routinely cured with antibiotics, a medical examiner told the court last week, according to the Lethbridge Herald.


 
This is what happens when you trust unqualified quacks more than proven science. Now they'll spend the rest of their lives regretting their ignorance.

A toddler got meningitis. His anti-vac parents gave him an herbal remedy. The toddler died. Now his parents are on trial.

On March 5, the Canadian government opened its trial against David and Collet. The charge: failing to provide their 19-month-old son, Ezekiel, the necessaries of life. According to prosecutors, David and Collet stubbornly refused to take their sick son to see a doctor, instead giving him home remedies such as smoothies containing hot pepper, ginger root, horseradish, onion and apple cider vinegar. Even after warnings from a family friend who is a nurse, the anti-vaccine couple took him to a naturopath for echinacea — an herb believed to stimulate the immune system — instead of to a doctor for an exam.
Faith makes idiots into morons...
 

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