To what end?

[Crepitus]

Still gaslighting

I already agreed you were.

What more do you want?

 

[Crepitus]

When I give liberals facts as I often do, it is like the plague, and they run away and only reappear in some other forum.

Yeah, that's a lie.

 

[jc456]

I already agreed you were.

What more do you want?

I don't require shit, I love exposing your gaslighting.

 

[Crepitus]

Hey Siri, tell Crepitus about the Budget Impoundment Act of 1974

That does not give him the power to unilaterally decide spending. Sorry if I'm bursting your bubble.

 

[Crepitus]

I don't require shit, I love exposing your gaslighting.

You said you were gaslighting. I agreed.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

That does not give him the power to unilaterally decide spending. Sorry if I'm bursting your bubble.

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AI Overview
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The Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974, primarily known as the Impoundment Control Act, was enacted to reassert Congress's power over the federal budget by limiting the President's ability to withhold appropriated funds. It established procedures for handling presidential impoundments (withholding of funds) and created new legislative institutions to manage the budget process.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:
Background: Prior to the Act, Presidents could impound funds appropriated by Congress, sometimes unilaterally, leading to disputes over the control of government spending.

Key Provisions:

• Impoundment Control:
  The Act defines procedures for both deferrals (temporary withholding) and rescissions (cancellations) of budget authority.
  
  
• Presidential Reporting:
  The President must notify Congress of any proposed impoundments through special messages, detailing the reasons for the action.
  
  
• Deferrals:
  Deferrals, which are temporary delays in spending, must be justified and cannot extend beyond the end of the fiscal year.
  
  
• Rescissions:
  Rescissions, which propose cancellation of funding, require congressional approval (a bill to rescind the budget authority).
  
  
• GAO Oversight:
  The Government Accountability Office (GAO)is tasked with overseeing the executive branch's compliance with the Act.
  
  
• Congressional Budget Office:
  The Act also established the Congressional Budget Office (CBO), which provides independent analysis of budgetary and economic issues to Congress.
  
  
• Budget Committees:
  The Act created House and Senate Budget Committees to oversee the budget process.
  

Significance: The Impoundment Control Act is a crucial piece of legislation that helps to maintain the balance of power between the legislative and executive branches in budgetary matters. It ensures that Congress retains control over the spending of taxpayer money.

Here you go

 

[Crepitus]

limiting the President's ability to withhold appropriated funds.

'Nuff said.

 

[jc456]

You said you were gaslighting. I agreed.

You are

 

[Crepitus]

You are

Yes, I am agreeing. You gaslighted.

 

[jc456]

Yes, I am agreeing. You gaslighted.

You got your gaslighting solid

 

[Crepitus]

You got your gaslighting solid

Ayup, directly from you.

 

[jc456]

Ayup, directly from you.

Yep, post was mine

 

[Leo123]

In 7 months we are still i the Biden economy based on massive debt based government spending. Trump will need a year to transition from a debt based economy to a wealth based economy

It will take a while to unravel the ball of shit Biden created. First and foremost, his causing fuel prices to skyrocket which caused high prices for delivered goods and a fuel cost burden on all Americans. His 'green' agenda was a big waste to money as well. Biden's virtually opening our Southern border, has caused entitlement spending on illegal aliens to also skyrocket.

 

[toobfreak]

It will take a while to unravel the ball of shit Biden created.

Common physics will tell you that it takes more time to unmangle a system than it takes to mangle it and Joe mangled it good for four years straight. Joe Biden treated his country the way a baby treats a diaper. Just days before leaving office, Joe Biden was shoveling more cash out the back door of the White House than folks there had seen go out in a decade.

Biden's virtually opening our Southern border, has caused entitlement spending on illegal aliens to also skyrocket.

Virtually, my ass. No one was turned away. Joe was busing and flying in those who could not get here by foot. Trump wants the best and brightest; Joe Biden wanted 3rd world refuse from slums and prisons with the IQ of a 3rd grader.

 

[Leo123]

Common physics will tell you that it takes more time to unmangle a system than it takes to mangle it and Joe mangled it good for four years straight. Joe Biden treated his country the way a baby treats a diaper. Just days before leaving office, Joe Biden was shoveling more cash out the back door of the White House than folks there had seen go out in a decade.


Virtually, my ass. No one was turned away. Joe was busing and flying in those who could not get here by foot. Trump wants the best and brightest; Joe Biden wanted 3rd world refuse from slums and prisons with the IQ of a 3rd grader.

'Virtually' was the wrong word, you are correct.

 

[Foolardi]

The Meaning of Article II and 'Executive Power' to Trump​

President Trump has cited Article II to justify everything from deportations to firing civil servants—these assertions present a challenge to constitutional order.

During his first term, President Trump proclaimed, “I have an Article II, where I have the right to do whatever I want as president. But I don’t even talk about that.” In his second term, Trump has talked about Article II a lot. In doing so, he has asserted that he has the authority to violate statutes passed by Congress and orders and precedents of the courts.

In the two months since his inauguration, the government has taken the position in ongoing litigation that Trump’s actions prevail over statutes like the Civil Service Reform Act, the Impoundment Control Act, and the Administrative Procedure Act. Meanwhile, Trump has also openly ignored the Supreme Court’s decision in Humphrey’s Executor and a district court order limiting the deportation of individuals from Venezuela.

Aggregating the administration’s assertions about Article II reveals the challenge that Trump’s vision presents to constitutional order. He has asserted that Article II contains implied powers to remove all subordinates within the executive branch, control spending, punish national security threats, deport immigrants without due process, and ignore judicial orders related to foreign affairs. Many of these actions conflict directly with the express or implied will of Congress and the Supreme Court. At times, the president may have a colorable argument that a given statute does not apply to the current situation or that a given case recognizes an exception. The continual invocation of Article II in the face of interbranch conflict, however, suggests that the president believes Article II takes precedence over Article I and Article III.

The Meaning of Article II and 'Executive Power' to Trump

President Trump has cited Article II to justify everything from deportations to firing civil servants—these assertions present a challenge to constitutional order.

www.lawfaremedia.org

The question here is not whether trump is asserting he has expansive power over the entirety of the government (and even areas outside of it) in ways no other prez in history ever has. That is demonstrably, unequivocally, true. The question is also not whether the unprecedented power grab is legally defensible. The question, as posed in the thread title, is "to what end?"

Is his lust for power and complete control a natural extension of his malignant narcissism? Malignant narcissism is a severe personality construct, not officially recognized in the DSM-5, that combines traits of narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) with antisocial personality disorder (ASPD) and paranoia. It is characterized by an inflated sense of self-importance, a need for admiration, a lack of empathy, and a tendency towards aggression, manipulation, and sadism. Malignant narcissists may also exhibit paranoia, feeling threatened or persecuted, and engage in manipulative or abusive behavior without remorse.

Or is there an even more nefarious design afoot. Is this a conscious attempt to change the nature of governance in the US? Does he have innate authoritarian impulses he can not suppress, surrounding himself with enablers who never question those impulses? Or has the end game always been to transform the nation in to an autocracy?

Kinda forgetting one huge Fact.That Trump won in 2024.
All 7 bellweather states.A firm majority.He took the Popular vote.
Hillary took the popular vote in 2016 but lost.She acted right from
the get go that she won.To this day.
The only reason she captured the popular vote in 2016
was California.She managed to amass more than 4 million votes
in California than Trump that year.
Trump took like 30 states that year.
Votes are the deciding factor.
Not only because Abe Lincoln said it ... but
" If you once forfeit the confidence of your fellow
citizens,you can never again regain their respect and
esteem.It is true ... that you may fool ALL the people
SOME of the time, you can even FOOL some of the people
all of the time but you can't fool ALL OF THE PEOPLE
ALL OF THE TIME ! "

 

[Foolardi]

'Virtually' was the wrong word, you are correct.

Biden is already doomed to history.No way around it.
The worst and most corrupt { or corrupted } Potus
in America History.
This lifetime Democrat slug on the political landscape/

 

[berg80]

First and foremost, his causing fuel prices to skyrocket

Your proof, please.

 

[Leo123]

Biden is already doomed to history.No way around it.
The worst and most corrupt { or corrupted } Potus
in America History.
This lifetime Democrat slug on the political landscape/

Biden is up there with James Bucanan as the worst POTUS of all time.

 

[berg80]

Biden is up there with James Bucanan as the worst POTUS of all time.

Still waiting for your proof of the assertion Biden caused energy prices to skyrocket. Or for that matter proof of any assertion you pull out of your ass.