To what end?

[jc456]

So that's what it is, Vance is an empty suit.

Per Herr Trump himself.

What is it exactly?

 

[jc456]

When you come to power again we will see your views against citizens you do not agree with politically.

They are dividers, hate democracy and Americans

 

[BackAgain]

He increased spending and increased the debt by $3T and is all into dictating trade terms on businesses like a planned economy. What are you talking about?

Suddenly you tools give a shit about the debt. Pardon all of us if we find you unworthy of any cred, croc.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

The Meaning of Article II and 'Executive Power' to Trump​

President Trump has cited Article II to justify everything from deportations to firing civil servants—these assertions present a challenge to constitutional order.

During his first term, President Trump proclaimed, “I have an Article II, where I have the right to do whatever I want as president. But I don’t even talk about that.” In his second term, Trump has talked about Article II a lot. In doing so, he has asserted that he has the authority to violate statutes passed by Congress and orders and precedents of the courts.

In the two months since his inauguration, the government has taken the position in ongoing litigation that Trump’s actions prevail over statutes like the Civil Service Reform Act, the Impoundment Control Act, and the Administrative Procedure Act. Meanwhile, Trump has also openly ignored the Supreme Court’s decision in Humphrey’s Executor and a district court order limiting the deportation of individuals from Venezuela.

Aggregating the administration’s assertions about Article II reveals the challenge that Trump’s vision presents to constitutional order. He has asserted that Article II contains implied powers to remove all subordinates within the executive branch, control spending, punish national security threats, deport immigrants without due process, and ignore judicial orders related to foreign affairs. Many of these actions conflict directly with the express or implied will of Congress and the Supreme Court. At times, the president may have a colorable argument that a given statute does not apply to the current situation or that a given case recognizes an exception. The continual invocation of Article II in the face of interbranch conflict, however, suggests that the president believes Article II takes precedence over Article I and Article III.

The Meaning of Article II and 'Executive Power' to Trump

President Trump has cited Article II to justify everything from deportations to firing civil servants—these assertions present a challenge to constitutional order.

www.lawfaremedia.org

The question here is not whether trump is asserting he has expansive power over the entirety of the government (and even areas outside of it) in ways no other prez in history ever has. That is demonstrably, unequivocally, true. The question is also not whether the unprecedented power grab is legally defensible. The question, as posed in the thread title, is "to what end?"

Is his lust for power and complete control a natural extension of his malignant narcissism? Malignant narcissism is a severe personality construct, not officially recognized in the DSM-5, that combines traits of narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) with antisocial personality disorder (ASPD) and paranoia. It is characterized by an inflated sense of self-importance, a need for admiration, a lack of empathy, and a tendency towards aggression, manipulation, and sadism. Malignant narcissists may also exhibit paranoia, feeling threatened or persecuted, and engage in manipulative or abusive behavior without remorse.

Or is there an even more nefarious design afoot. Is this a conscious attempt to change the nature of governance in the US? Does he have innate authoritarian impulses he can not suppress, surrounding himself with enablers who never question those impulses? Or has the end game always been to transform the nation in to an autocracy?

It appears to be designed to elicit you to post yet another long cut and paste of other people's words because you have never entertained an original thought in all your life.

 

[jc456]

Suddenly you tools give a shit about the debt. Pardon all of us if we find you unworthy of any cred, croc.

Empty insults all they got

 

[Crepitus]

What lust for power Trump is cutting the power of government

Dude, did you actually manage to say that with a straight face?

 

[Hafar1014]

Dude, did you actually manage to say that with a straight face?

Trump is cutting taxes, spending, regulations, and firing thousands of government workers. Is that more or less government?

 

[Crepitus]

How?

Gezus, kid. Turn on something that's not fox.

 

[Hafar1014]

He increased spending and increased the debt by $3T and is all into dictating trade terms on businesses like a planned economy. What are you talking about?

Its still the Biden economy that was based on debt and massive government spending. Trump has cut spending, fired thousands of government workers, cut taxes, and cut regulations how is that not less government when Trump is cutting as much as he can.

 

[Crepitus]

Uh. He raised the spending and cut the revenue stream. Its that simple. All the cuts to the poor and consumer and health protections he sunk into spending for big defense companies and corporate largess.

Don't forget the tax cuts for his billionaire buddies,

 

[Crepitus]

When you lefties cry about Vance,will you come up with new shit, or will you make all these old posts again and just replace the word TRUMPwith VANCE?

Couchboi is an ineffectual nit-wit.

 

[Crepitus]

Riiiiiiiiiiight

Because he has the power to unilaterally decide spending

Riiiiiiiiight

What a powerless Fascist dictator

 

[jc456]

Dude, did you actually manage to say that with a straight face?

The power to end power! Is that an oxymoron?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Gezus, kid. Turn on something that's not fox.

Kid?


I hadn't realized you were in your late 90s.

That explains much.

 

[Crepitus]

Trump has won most of the lawsuits against him

Only by taking them all the way to his hand picked supreme court after losing in every other venue.

 

[Crepitus]

He’s expanding it and concentrating it… in himself

How can you not see that??

 

[Crepitus]

Tariffs are on track to bring in 1 trillion a year enough to pay off the defcit in 2 years

And it all comes straight outta your pocket

Trump cuts taxes regulations and thousands of government workers. Thats less government

No, it's not. He's expanding the power of the government and concentrating it at the top.

 

[jc456]

Gezus, kid. Turn on something that's not fox.

Don’t you fkers got anything else to counter with? Fox, fox fox fox fox you mther fkers are dull. That makes you predictable

 

[Dogmaphobe]

you mther fkers are dull

At least he has maximized his potential.

 

[Hafar1014]

And it all comes straight outta your pocket



No, it's not. He's expanding the power of the government and concentrating it at the top.

False inflation is down food and gas is down and prices have not increased. Manufacturers and sellers will eat the tariffs because they must sell but consumers dont have to buy.