To those of you that hate ICE...

[Ghost of a Rider]

Naw, I've moved on from Smirky McBitchslap years ago.

But you still hate him for being Catholic. Almost from the moment I brought him up, out came the inevitable "Catholic Bastards" tripe.

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

I've been Doxxed about three times on this board. Two of them have been permabanned and one doesn't show up that much anymore.

Do you know what I'm NOT doing? I'm not rounding up children in the middle of the night. I'm not tear-gassing clergymen.

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Press X to doubt.

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

That's a nice kakistocracy we've got here. It would be a real shame if something were to happen to it.

Arrest or ignore activist judge.

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

To equate Trump with hitler is a damn lie

If ICE deports someone who has been here for years he has a rap sheet that only a lib could love

I wish Trump was a 10th as evil and effective as the left sees him

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

That's like the Nazis saying, "I was only following orders!"

He did nothing of the sort. But keep pulling these numbers out of your ass.

if we have 20 million in the last few years, why is Trump going after people that have been here for decades?

We are deporting everyone here illegal20 years? 20 mins, it doesn’t matter. You want your pets to stay, it’s not happening.

 

[JoeB131]

But you still hate him for being Catholic. Almost from the moment I brought him up, out came the inevitable "Catholic Bastards" tripe.

Naw, I dislike him because he's a misogynistic and racist little twerp. His Catholic upbringing contributed to that.

 

[JoeB131]

We are deporting everyone here illegal20 years? 20 mins, it doesn’t matter. You want your pets to stay, it’s not happening.

Guy, inevitably, the vast majority are going to stay, and the ones you are deporting will come back, eventually.

I had a neighbor who was an illegal, got deported back in 2017, I think. His wife was an American (although they tried to claim her birth certificate was fake to intimidate her, but that didn't work.)

Eventually, he came back, and that was BEFORE Biden got into office.

Trump has only deported about 300,000 or so. At that rate, he'll have deported lilttle over a million by the time he leaves.

More likely, though, after Democrats retake Congress next year, the ICEStapo is going to find their budget cut.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Naw, I dislike him because he's a misogynistic and racist little twerp. His Catholic upbringing contributed to that.

How can you know any of this from a single picture?

 

[JoeB131]

How can you know any of this from a single picture?

A single picture where he was wearing a MAGA hat, mocking a native American Veteran, and protesting a woman's right to health care.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

A single picture where he was wearing a MAGA hat, mocking a native American Veteran, and protesting a woman's right to health care.

So then, you haven't seen the video you claimed you saw. Is that what you're saying?

Also, he wasn't protesting anything; he and his classmates were waiting for their bus. You've been told this. Did you forget it again?

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

Guy, inevitably, the vast majority are going to stay, and the ones you are deporting will come back, eventually.

I had a neighbor who was an illegal, got deported back in 2017, I think. His wife was an American (although they tried to claim her birth certificate was fake to intimidate her, but that didn't work.)

Eventually, he came back, and that was BEFORE Biden got into office.

Trump has only deported about 300,000 or so. At that rate, he'll have deported lilttle over a million by the time he leaves.

More likely, though, after Democrats retake Congress next year, the ICEStapo is going to find their budget cut.

No, they come here they can and will go back and the wall will stop it.

You deliberately ignore the 2.5 self deportation, and if it requires it, we declare martial law, arrest the mayors and governors and use the full might if the US military to do what is needed.

You think you get to wreak a country and steal it away from it’s people because of your feelings and the ability to fool empty headed people, you don’t.

So go ahead keep pushing, Trump is a
Moderate compromise to what is actually needed but you seem to refuse to understand and take the best offer your gonna get.

 

[JoeB131]

No, they come here they can and will go back and the wall will stop it.

You deliberately ignore the 2.5 self deportation,

Two and a half people self-deported? Was one of them a midget? Or the world's unluckiest Magician's Assistant.

Okay, having my fun, you obviously meant to say 2.5 million.

Now, here's why that number is bullshit.

According to DHS, only 35,000 people have used the "Self-Deport" app and collected their $1000.00 and free plane ticket.

thedailybeast.com/eye-watering-cost-of-ice-barbies-failing-self-deportation-app-revealed/

That's it.

And they were counted in the official "Deported numbers".

So it begs the question, how did those 2.5 million get out? They couldn't get on a plane, and they couldn't cross the border with security being tighter now. Mexico hasn't reported an influx of people.

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

Two and a half people self-deported? Was one of them a midget? Or the world's unluckiest Magician's Assistant.

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Okay, having my fun, you obviously meant to say 2.5 million.

Now, here's why that number is bullshit.

According to DHS, only 35,000 people have used the "Self-Deport" app and collected their $1000.00 and free plane ticket.

thedailybeast.com/eye-watering-cost-of-ice-barbies-failing-self-deportation-app-revealed/

That's it.

And they were counted in the official "Deported numbers".

So it begs the question, how did those 2.5 million get out? They couldn't get on a plane, and they couldn't cross the border with security being tighter now. Mexico hasn't reported an influx of people.

So people can n your world can’t just decide to leave and not tell anyone? Man, you are dumb.

Of course Mexico wouldn’t seen an influx of people. Most of these people aren’t Mexican. They traveled through Mexico because they’re tourist. They wouldn’t count on the census or be really detectable in the Mexican census numbers and two you can absolutely cross the border in New Mexico. We don’t really check IDs when people are going that way.

 

[JoeB131]

So people can n your world can’t just decide to leave and not tell anyone? Man, you are dumb.

They can... it's just unlikely that many could and not be noticed. Remember when they all came here in mass, and Fox News showed us 24/7 of Immigrant Caravans? Where are the reverse caravans?

Of course Mexico wouldn’t seen an influx of people. Most of these people aren’t Mexican. They traveled through Mexico because they’re tourist. They wouldn’t count on the census or be really detectable in the Mexican census numbers and two you can absolutely cross the border in New Mexico. We don’t really check IDs when people are going that way.

But we do track how many people are crossing, and so do the Mexicans.

Again, if they are all crossing back through in New Mexico, where are the Reverse Caravans?

 

[Jarlaxle]

Eleven states and Washington, D.C., together provide full health insurance coverage to more than 1 million low-income immigrants regardless of their legal status, according to state data compiled by KFF Health News. Most aren't authorized to live in the U.S., state officials say.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/12/29/1221780712/more-states-extend-health-coverage-to-immigrants-even-as-issue-inflames-gop

Joey does not care. Joey will ignore facts and continue regurgitating The Big Lie.

 

[Seymour Flops]

We actually need zero immigrants at this point. we have millions of Americans on welfare who will work low-paying jobs if their govcheck requires them to.

Since they are legal they would have to paid minimum wage. That is a good thing.

We don't need doctors from India, since we have college grads who cannot find jobs. Instead of enriching insurance companies with wasteful subsidies, use the money to open govt medical school whose graduates will work in govt free clinics for current O'care layabouts.

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

They can... it's just unlikely that many could and not be noticed. Remember when they all came here in mass, and Fox News showed us 24/7 of Immigrant Caravans? Where are the reverse caravans?



But we do track how many people are crossing, and so do the Mexicans.

Again, if they are all crossing back through in New Mexico, where are the Reverse Caravans?

Why would there be reverse caravan? It’s not illegal to leave the United States.

Again you would not know how many leave the country, especially if they entered illegally which many did.

More over the fall in the price of rent in cities is proof of the numbers.

 

[skye]

 

[MarathonMike]

Absolutely nothing. But none of the posts from you to me over the last few days have anything to do with that either.

Nice try.

Joe's favorite game is "Oh yeah? Well look over there!"

 

[JoeB131]

We actually need zero immigrants at this point. we have millions of Americans on welfare who will work low-paying jobs if their govcheck requires them to.

Since they are legal they would have to paid minimum wage. That is a good thing.

We don't need doctors from India, since we have college grads who cannot find jobs. Instead of enriching insurance companies with wasteful subsidies, use the money to open govt medical school whose graduates will work in govt free clinics for current O'care layabouts.

Wow, I have to wonder if you live in the real world.

No one wants to hire welfare collectors (who already have jobs, in many cases) when they can hire an immigrant who will work harder.

"Send the immigrants home and put them welfare people to work" is a right wing fantasy.