To fix our country, we need a strong leader willing to break the rules?

[Rigby5]

That Elitist Document Is as Toxic as a Bible Is in a Theocracy

You proved that Democrats are Constitution-bangers just as much as Republicans are. Each power-hungry clique claims its is the sole decider of what that confused and arrogant document really means. If we continue to let both twin sides force us to worship the ignorant 18th ideas of the Century, we won't last much longer in this century.

Cowardice Is the Crime That Enables All Others

We far outnumber and outgun the birth-elitists and can crush them like grapes. It's time to quit whining and start making wine.

Well you have a point in that the Constitution did not prevent slavery, so it does have some basic flaws.
But I like the idea in general of a Bill of Rights, codified laws for blind justice, the division into legislative, executive, and judicial, etc.

 

[Dragonlady]

Biden broke the immigration rules, but he wasn't a strong leader.

Did he fix the country?

Biden was a much stronger leader than Trump.

Trump is the weakest American President in my lifetime. The man has no ability to lead whatsoever. Threats and bullying is the antithesis of leadership.

The world is leaving you behind. We're moving to a different model with democratic leadership and political stability. The USA is no longer that country.

 

[Rigby5]

God owns the land and can give to anyone He chooses to. He chose, and prophesied, the descendants of Israel to possess this land.

Nonsense.
No god would ever be biased towards one particular group, and especially not one arrogant, racist, and evil enough to massacre the Canaanite women and children after invading Jericho.
And we have proof of who is evil again when Menachem Begin blew up the British peacekeepers in the King David Hotel.
Anyone calling the Israelis the "Chosen People" clearly is lying.
They are about as evil as one could be.
They are actually Polish and Russian of Turkic descent, lying and claiming to be Semitic.
It is obvious they are lying because their native language is the Germanic Yiddish and not the Semitic Hebrew.

 

[Rigby5]

Sorry, you don't get to pick and choose what you want to follow or not...

As President Lincoln said, you follow the law, even bad laws, until you can legally change them, under the law....

And Lincoln said the best way to get rid of a bad law, is to enforce it....enforcing it will show how bad the "bad law" is and the sooner law makers will legislate its change.

What we need to do in order to show why it is illegal to skip judicial due process is for all police to start doing that to whites.

 

[Rigby5]

God owns the land and can give it to anyone He chooses to. He chose, and prophesied, the descendants of Israel to possess this land. The truth hidden within "Manifest Destiny" is that the WASP peoples, the descendants of ancient Israel, would possess this land, at least until the birthright promise was fulfilled.

Many believe it has been fulfilled, that the fulness occurred in the years just after WW2 but is now being lost.

Totally wrong and very ignorant.
The original Hebrew were Arabs.
Hebrew is a Semitic language, meaning it came from Arabs and was spoken by Arabs.
So WASP are NOT at all "descendants of the ancient Israel".

 

[Dragonlady]

No, the original rules on immigration were that this land were:

{...
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
...}

There were no immigration restrictions until around 1920, and clearly the conflict with basic principles.
Which are that eveyone here in the USA, is the descendant of an illegal immigrant except the natives.
And it it the natives that ICE is arresting and deporting.

The reality is that immigration didn't matter until the creation of social programs paid with the tax dollars of residents.

Why should those who just arrived get the same benefits as those of us who have paid in all of our lives. The free shit will bankrupt the government. Look what immigrants cost the economy. Except most of that just isn't true.

It's amazing all of the stuff that the USA "can't afford". You "can't afford" universal health care. You "can't afford" to pay living wages. You can't afford a good education for all. You can't afford clean air and water. You can't afford pensions for the elderly. You can't afford maternity leave for women.

But you can afford the biggest, baddest military the world has every seen. You can afford to wage wars for 20 years. You can afford to go to the Moon and Mars. Do you not see the hypocrisy of what you can and cannot afford.

You can afford anything you truly want. Other nations have made the choice to put their PEOPLE first. That's the ONLY difference. The millionaires can take care of themselves. The people need a fair shake.

 

[Billiejeens]

For what to grow? Who's version of safety, health, wealth and happiness will you promote?

5th party people

 

[Supposn]

... Founding Father and second President of the United States John Adams famously wrote that the rule of law at its most essential means a “government of laws and not of men.” The rule of law is “a principle of governance in which all persons, institutions and entities, public and private, including the State itself, are accountable to the laws that are publicly promulgated, equally enforced and independently adjudicated.” ...
... Without the rule of law, laws would not be applied consistently. In a post-rule of law country, those in positions of power within the government and their allies could behave unconstrained by any law or regulation, while the politically marginalized and those who dissent could be subject to punishment without any notice that their behavior was against the law. They would be without any recourse to an impartial judiciary to determine whether their prosecution, conviction, or punishment was legitimate. Due process and equal protection of the law cannot exist where the rule of law has been dismantled

Care4all &Woodznutz, unlike some other posters to this thread, we concur with Franklin and Adams.

The1st Constitutional convention was held in1787. Ben Franklin was then to have said “We have a republic, if we cankeep it”.
The United States of America's government's no longer among the world's youngest democratic-republics with a written constitution. However, if we do not remain bound by our constitution and federal laws, (i.e. the“rules upon which are the basis of our government), Franklin's fear will be realized; The United States of America will not continue existing as a democratic-republic. Respectfully,Supposn

 

[Dragonlady]

God owns the land and can give it to anyone He chooses to. He chose, and prophesied, the descendants of Israel to possess this land. The truth hidden within "Manifest Destiny" is that the WASP peoples, the descendants of ancient Israel, would possess this land, at least until the birthright promise was fulfilled.

Many believe it has been fulfilled, that the fulness occurred in the years just after WW2 but is now being lost.

WASP's are not the decendants of the Jews. WASP's are decendants of the northern peoples who worshipped pagan gods.

The French descended from the Celts and tribes of Gaul. The Brits are Celts, Scandanavians, and Slavs. Neither nation has a Jewish lineage. AT ALL. "Manifest destiny" was bullshit the Catholic Church made up to authorize white people to commit genocide against the "pagans" they encountered in their explorations. That was their excuse for murdering the indigenous peoples of the lands they conquered.

The history of abuses condoned by the Catholic Church is long and certainly not "distinguished". The Spanish Inquisition. "Manifest Destiny". Child sexual abuse.

Those pictures of Jesus as a blond haired blue eyed WASP are completely fictional. Jesus was a Semitic Jew. He was likely dark skinned with curly black hair. The kind of person Trump would deport.

 

[Dragonlady]

Care4all,Woodznutz, unlike some other posters to this thread, we concur with Franklin and Adams.

The1st Constitutional convention was held in1787. Ben Franklin was then to have said “We have a republic, if we cankeep it”.
The United States of America's government's no longer among the world's youngest democratic-republics with a written constitution. However, if we do not remain bound by our constitution and federal laws, (i.e. the“rules upon which are the basis of our government), Franklin's fear will be realized; The United States of America will not continue existing as a democratic-republic. Respectfully,Supposn

Franklin's fears have already been realized when Donald Trump was elected the first time. Trump is the man the Founders feared.

 

[22lcidw]

The reality is that immigration didn't matter until the creation of social programs paid with the tax dollars of residents.

Why should those who just arrived get the same benefits as those of us who have paid in all of our lives. The free shit will bankrupt the government. Look what immigrants cost the economy. Except most of that just isn't true.

It's amazing all of the stuff that the USA "can't afford". You "can't afford" universal health care. You "can't afford" to pay living wages. You can't afford a good education for all. You can't afford clean air and water. You can't afford pensions for the elderly. You can't afford maternity leave for women.

But you can afford the biggest, baddest military the world has every seen. You can afford to wage wars for 20 years. You can afford to go to the Moon and Mars. Do you not see the hypocrisy of what you can and cannot afford.

You can afford anything you truly want. Other nations have made the choice to put their PEOPLE first. That's the ONLY difference. The millionaires can take care of themselves. The people need a fair shake.

A lot of those things there is merit for. Unfortunately, we seem to always have two opposing sides. Republican voters even changed their views on wars and now Progs became the war mongers as an example. We will see if some of the old time Republican neo cons still in the party will whip up the United States into a protracted war including ground troops with Iran. We will get a two for one as we do the same in Ukraine/Russian conflict.

 

[Winco]

To fix our country, we need a strong leader willing to break the rules?

We need a strong leader that:

Sells Bibles for personal profit, that were made in China.
Sells Gold Sneakers for personal profit, that were made in China.
Starts a Crypto Scam, while profiting as POTUS.

Do I really need to list more.

The guy is a con man.
And remember his COVID quote...."No, I don't take ANY responsibility at ALL." <<<<<<<< Not a Leader.

 

[Woodznutz]

Nonsense.
No god would ever be biased towards one particular group, and especially not one arrogant, racist, and evil enough to massacre the Canaanite women and children after invading Jericho.
And we have proof of who is evil again when Menachem Begin blew up the British peacekeepers in the King David Hotel.
Anyone calling the Israelis the "Chosen People" clearly is lying.
They are about as evil as one could be.
They are actually Polish and Russian of Turkic descent, lying and claiming to be Semitic.
It is obvious they are lying because their native language is the Germanic Yiddish and not the Semitic Hebrew.

The Jews were not included in the birthright promise that I'm referring to.

1 Chronicles 5:2
"For Judah prevailed above his brethren, and of him came the chief ruler; but the birthright was Joseph's."

 

[konradv]

True.

"Laws (rules) are made to keep the ruling class in power."

All political party platforms should have these four planks.

Safety of the people.
Health of the people.
Wealth of the people.
Happiness of the people.

If the first three are fulfilled the fourth will follow.

Trump’s thrown the first three out the window. Good luck with four.

 

[Woodznutz]

Nonsense.
No god would ever be biased towards one particular group, and especially not one arrogant, racist, and evil enough to massacre the Canaanite women and children after invading Jericho.
And we have proof of who is evil again when Menachem Begin blew up the British peacekeepers in the King David Hotel.
Anyone calling the Israelis the "Chosen People" clearly is lying.
They are about as evil as one could be.
They are actually Polish and Russian of Turkic descent, lying and claiming to be Semitic.
It is obvious they are lying because their native language is the Germanic Yiddish and not the Semitic Hebrew.

God has spoken on this issue.

The Jews speak "modern" Hebrew among other languages.

 

[Woodznutz]

WASP's are not the decendants of the Jews. WASP's are decendants of the northern peoples who worshipped pagan gods.

The French descended from the Celts and tribes of Gaul. The Brits are Celts, Scandanavians, and Slavs. Neither nation has a Jewish lineage. AT ALL. "Manifest destiny" was bullshit the Catholic Church made up to authorize white people to commit genocide against the "pagans" they encountered in their explorations. That was their excuse for murdering the indigenous peoples of the lands they conquered.

The history of abuses condoned by the Catholic Church is long and certainly not "distinguished". The Spanish Inquisition. "Manifest Destiny". Child sexual abuse.

Those pictures of Jesus as a blond haired blue eyed WASP are completely fictional. Jesus was a Semitic Jew. He was likely dark skinned with curly black hair. The kind of person Trump would deport.

WASPs are the descendants of the other tribes of Israel, not the Jews.

The Papal "bull" establishing "the Doctrine of Discovery" was secularized in the concept of Manifest Destiny. The CC had little influence in the expansion of America westward. They were passengers, not drivers.

 

[Dragonlady]

For what to grow? Who's version of safety, health, wealth and happiness will you promote?

I get MY version of safety and health. My doctors and I choose my treatments. Not the government and not the insurance companies. I get my options and I make my choices.

We vote for our safety and so do you. You vote for guns for everyone and as a result, you're the least safe nation in the first world. You made that choice.

 

[Zincwarrior]

To fix our country, we need a strong leader willing to break the rules?

Inregard to USA federal policies and leadership, although the opinions of foreign populations and their governments' leaders can to some extent affect us, it is the opinions of USA's voters and those who influence our federal government's policies that are of my much greater concern.
Regardinf those opinions, within the key finding of Ipso's polling the question, is there a need "To fix [country], we need a strong leader willing to break the rules?". (Refer to link, IpsosPopulism Report 2025 ).
I regret even among Germans, (who more comparatively recently experienced Hitler's Nazi historic regime), almost a ¼ of their nation believe the answer should be “Yes”. Among the majority of USA''s Republicans, (i.e. president Trump's supporters), their answers were“Yes”. Respectfully, Supposn

MAGA has started executing the opposition.

 

[Dragonlady]

Nonsense.
No god would ever be biased towards one particular group, and especially not one arrogant, racist, and evil enough to massacre the Canaanite women and children after invading Jericho.
And we have proof of who is evil again when Menachem Begin blew up the British peacekeepers in the King David Hotel.
Anyone calling the Israelis the "Chosen People" clearly is lying.
They are about as evil as one could be.
They are actually Polish and Russian of Turkic descent, lying and claiming to be Semitic.
It is obvious they are lying because their native language is the Germanic Yiddish and not the Semitic Hebrew.

You're even crazier that I ever dreamed. That's some bat shit super loony right there.

 

[dblack]

I get MY version of safety and health.

Good for you! Do you think government should force your version on everyone else?