Time to find a new party

[Foxfyre]

yet you give Trump a free pass just like the Dems do for their side....this is why we are sitting at 33T in debt.

Aaaaand we're back to spewing meaningless bile are we? Have a pleasant day GG.

 

[YoursTruly]

He only got three yrs as a rookie with all DC & MSM against him 24-7. Still the accomplishments off the charts good compared to any other President of modern times. 2nd term was setup to begin to dismantle some of the deep State. Yes he was even poised to go after spending and waste. The Country had to be stabalized first thing after the 8 communist Obiden 1.0 yrs.
He got done more good FOR America in 3 yrs than the previous four status quo clowns combined. No matter now, all was torn apart after 2020 Election Fraud. No one is left that will fight the Deep State now.//

Trumps accomplishment as 90% embellishments. Like how he gets credit for the economy. The economy was recovering when he took office. Just like it's recovering now. Biden isn't recovering the economy. We are. Trump didn't recover the economy. We did.

And the BS about the oil prices. Russia and Saudi were in an oil price war and flooding the market with cheap oil. That's why the prices were low. And NO, we were never actually energy independent. FFS, oil companies are producing more oil now than in any other time during Trump, and we're not energy independent.
All we did was sell more than we imported. That's not energy independent. Independence comes when we produce more than we need for our own use. At no time during Trump did we not have to import millions of barrels just to supply our own needs.

 

[Foxfyre]

The democrats in congress aren't like your incompetent heroes and don't intentionally hurt Americans for a political point.

So they keep the government running.

End of story.

Spoken like a true sheep and obedient subject. Have a pleasant day.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

but of course it has.

That's right. Obstructed at every turn in the venture of increasing tax revenue. Anyone who says otherwise is lying or ignorant.

Or they are a pseudo libertarian who is in the low IQ "everything sucks" club, and this low IQ mode is all they know.

Pick your poison.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Spoken like a true sheep and obedient subject. Have a pleasant day.

Ah yes, the expected crybaby tapout.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

That's the gutless sellout attitude that made trump look like a good deal.

Trump IS a good deal

 

[Oddball]

Trumps accomplishment as 90% embellishments. Like how he gets credit for the economy. The economy was recovering when he took office. Just like it's recovering now. Biden isn't recovering the economy. We are. Trump didn't recover the economy. We did.

He gets some credit for getting regs out of the way....That never fails to help.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Aaaaand we're back to spewing meaningless bile are we? Have a pleasant day GG.

what a little snowflake you have turned out to be

 

[Oddball]

Trump IS a good deal

The same way a kick in the ass is a "good deal" compared to a kick in the nuts.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

The economy was recovering when he took office

It'll be recovering when he takes office again but you and the Democrats will convince yourselves that JOE BIDEN left him a recovering economy. It's always spun that way

 

[YoursTruly]

It'll be recovering when he takes office again but you and the Democrats will convince yourselves that JOE BIDEN left him a recovering economy. It's always spun that way

Did you not read what I wrote? Obama didn't recover the economy. Trump didn't. Biden didn't. "WE the People" did. We always do.

It pisses me off when people try to give the government, especially a president, credit for the economy getting better.

 

[YoursTruly]

That's the gutless sellout attitude that made trump look like a good deal.

Imagine how bad the left has to be to make Trump look good.


Are we down to voting for people who don't suck quite as bad? I think so.

How else do explain a Republican being at the top of the pack after spending as much as he did and assaulting our 2A. When Reagan was pushing for the brady bill? It didn't get signed into law until a democrat was president. Back then, most republicans wouldn't touch that bill with a 10ft pole.

 

[elektra]

To show his loyalty to his long time friends, Trump didn't even try to "lock her up." He didn't get an investigator to investigate Hillary for anything. Including the Russia Russia Russia crap that started with Hillary Clinton.
The first week after Trump wins the elections, he drops the whole thing.

Does that not turn on a lightbulb somewhere in your head? Spark some curiosities? Makes you wonder that maybe Trump ain't what he makes out to be? FFS, He's a life long democrat who only pretends to be a Republican.

He didn't even go after Pelosi or Schiff for their BS first impeachment.

hmmm, to attack and prosecute the most powerful people in the world while Trump's department of Justice, FBI, and advisors, were all part of the elite Washington DC swamp.

No investigation? Just completely drops it, or was there a battle, against his own advisors? Did Trump have to battle the DOJ? Did Trump control these executive branch departments?

What is clear, is that Trump had battles on all sides. In hindsight it is easy to state Trump did nothing.

Everyday of Trump's life, while president and now, is fighting against all you people that hate him and believe every word of the Fake News.

So much Trump should of done, like fire the entire leadership of the FBI and Justice Department. Which would of resulted in a battle against the activists courts and the entire Congress.

The Department of Justice was not going to prosecute Clinton. The media was not going to allow the prosecution of Clinton. Trump did have much to do and did need cooperation, which trump would not get if Trump prosecuted Hillary.

Sadly, one president can not fight the entire system.

 

[elektra]

Trump had a ton of outsiders in one his cabinet when he started his term, by the end of year one he had pretty much gotten rid of all of them and replaced them with swamp critters. Why did he do that?

who were the outsiders?

 

[elektra]

Trumps healthcare plan was Obamacare on steroids'. Falsely claiming they were going to save so much money on healthcare, the government was going to be able to cover everybody, at a much lower cost. For 1, it's BS. The government can't save money on healthcare. All they can do is subsidize it for the people #2, Government ran healthcare is socialism.

So why TF would republicans support his plan when they'd been screaming about how government ran healthcare is socialism?

I know what you're problem is. You and Trumps other supporters have had things explained to you in a certain, salesman way. Like all those folks who were completely against Obamacare. But loved their ACA.

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we never got a Trump plan, if you wish to quote and link to the plan, feel free, I would love to discuss the plan, and not your emotions

 

[Harpy Eagle]

who were the outsiders?

Rex Tillerson....replaced by swamp critter Pompeo

Jim Mattis....replced by swamp critter Esper

Ryan Zinkie....replaced by insider Bernhardt

Linda McMahon....replace by swamp critter Carranza

Andrew Puzder, an outsider, was nominated, then pulled by Trump and replaced with swamp critter Acosta

 

[Harpy Eagle]

we never got a Trump plan

Which was the problem.

If you are going to get rid of something you have to have a plan to replace it, Trump had none.

The ACA sucks, more so for healthcare workers than for the normal joe. I would have loved to see it go.

 

[Arlette]

GOP simply doesn't care about Fiscal or Constitutional Conservatism any longer. There's not enough F/C conservatives left in DC to shake a stick at. 90% of the GOP are Trump sucking RINO's who simply don't care about spending reductions (not real ones). They don't care about unconstitutional legislation & amendments. They're so far left of center, they can't even see center.

And for the democrats. The moderates have had to take a back seat to the radical progressives in the last decade or so. Shoving their trans, lgbt-abcdefg, woke, pro-Hamas, DEI, hate white people crap in our faces.

The two major parties have ran completely off the rails.

So what's left? 3rd party's? That's a waste of time. I'm a firm believer that the R's and D's have infiltrated the LP and the green party(what ever the green party stands for). So there is no options, really. Because there's still too many "lesser of two evils" voters, who are scared to death that the sky is going to fall if their party isn't in the majority.

Used to be, one only had to overlook a couple of issues that their party stood for, to continue supporting them. And they were usually minor issues. But now days, there's so much wrong with the R & D's, to support either one, you not only have to hold your nose, but you gotta wear a blindfold.

The 2020's is a real political circus.

What's the issue that makes it impossible for you to vote for either one?

 

[Father O'Blivion]

If Trump loses to a potato? Yeah

You're even getting excuses ready ahead of time to attack the heart of our democratic system just because you don't like the outcome. You will probably wave an American flag while doing it.

yay.

 

[elektra]

Did you not read what I wrote? Obama didn't recover the economy. Trump didn't. Biden didn't. "WE the People" did. We always do.

It pisses me off when people try to give the government, especially a president, credit for the economy getting better.

how did the people recover the economy?