Time for Republicans to take some Responsibility

I can't agree more.

Although I do have to take issue with one part. Mainly the nomination of McCain. Republicans didn't nominate him. Republicans were just stupid enough to let enough "open" primaries go on early on which allowed Democrats to cross over at a time where they still thought Hillary had it sown up.

Course Republicans do have to take responsibility for allowing something so stupid to occur. In my opinion, only party members should be determining party nominee. If we give that power up we get weak candidates like McCain.
 
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I get f-ing sick of it. All well!! My rant isn't as good as the original post, but it's how the hell I feel. America will change when we stop being so lazy and get rid of this silly culture we've created.
No, America will not change for them reasons. Progress sucks. Just ask a Luddite.

:cool:

And where are we supposed to be progressing to?
 
Progressivism is much like the war on terrorism, poverty or drugs.

It's a direction not a destination.

As to the Republicans taking responsibility for the mistakes of their elected leaders?

Not likely.

First of all, they don't necessarily agree that mistake have been made.

Secondly, we saw many of them throw Bush II under the bus when his economic advisors bailed out the banks.

You don't remember when people on this board, people who formerly were solidly behind Bush II, started calling him a SOCIALIST or a LIBERAL?
 
LOL don't hold your breath for either party to answer for mistakes.

You know they don't make any. Just ask em. They'll be more than happy to demonize the other party and tell you how great their party is. Jeeze.

No. If you wait for that you will surely die of asphyixation. LOL
 
Bump.

Jeez....I fully expected the GOP party faithful to head for the tall grass, but for the lefty Peanut Gallery to sit on their hands is a bit curious.

Or maybe I'm right in my observation that you're so stridently partisan, that y'all can't even consider the notion that disgust with them doesn't automatically mean that everyone is in favor of you?

Hmmmmmm...:eusa_think:

I've said before I support an across-the-board freeze on government spending, but it's no more going to happen than what you want.

Arguing the impossible might be an amusing diversion, but it doesn't go any farther than that. You are doomed to be forever in the grips of a set of political/social/philosophical beliefs that will never ever be implemented in the real world.
 
Im glad to see so many of you are facing the fact that Bush was a disastor.

The problem is you will vote the the next joke the republican party throws at you too.

They tell you what you want to hear and you buy the bullshit every time.

RUN on your true beliefs.

Dont vote for one single republican party selection and vote only for the tea party candidate or non republican.

You see the tea party ideas are old failed ideas too just like tghe R party ideas are but at least you will be sticking to your principles.

Lets have the REAL debate about what policies the American people want.

Government that works or government that has never worked in the worlds history.

Lets have that debate instead of this phoney one issue crap or lies about what you really expect your chosen elected official to realy back.
 
Bump.

Jeez....I fully expected the GOP party faithful to head for the tall grass, but for the lefty Peanut Gallery to sit on their hands is a bit curious.

Or maybe I'm right in my observation that you're so stridently partisan, that y'all can't even consider the notion that disgust with them doesn't automatically mean that everyone is in favor of you?

Hmmmmmm...:eusa_think:

I've said before I support an across-the-board freeze on government spending, but it's no more going to happen than what you want.

Arguing the impossible might be an amusing diversion, but it doesn't go any farther than that. You are doomed to be forever in the grips of a set of political/social/philosophical beliefs that will never ever be implemented in the real world.
Probably should be careful with those universal qualifiers.

They were implemented at the nation's founding and were in practice (for the most part) until the T. Roosevelt administration started dismantling the republic, in favor of an overbearing, authoritarian, centrally planned corporate democracy.

That set of political/social/philosophical beliefs was the primary driver, which brought this nation from literally broke to the world's pre-eminent economic superpower, in the hitherto before unheard time frame of just over a century.
 
Time for Republican to take some Responsibility

That time has come and gone.
 
Im glad to see so many of you are facing the fact that Bush was a disastor.

Disaster? i wouldn't go that far. He was far from ideal, but still far superior to any opposition presented. That's the problem with having two crappy parties.

The problem is you will vote the the next joke the republican party throws at you too.

Not sure you're in a position to criticize when you vote for the likes of Al Gore, John Kerry, and Barack Obama.

They tell you what you want to hear and you buy the bullshit every time.

Cant imagine why someone would vote for someone who says they agree with you. We should simply vote for people who say they oppose everything we stand for. Maybe we'll be lucky.

RUN on your true beliefs.

You honestly think this is a Republican problem only?

Dont vote for one single republican party selection and vote only for the tea party candidate or non republican.

Cause I really am going to take political advice from you. Im sure you have my best interests at heart.

You see the tea party ideas are old failed ideas too just like tghe R party ideas are but at least you will be sticking to your principles.

Yeah those darn failed principles of low taxes, getting out of debt, following the Constitution, Separation of powers, and Federalism. Such failed ideas. I mean what sane person follow THOSE principles. I mean why the heck would we want to remain free and propsper when we can be socialists and keep people in poverty.

Lets have the REAL debate about what policies the American people want.

Id love to, but you'd have to be honest about what you're attempting to do. And you wont because then you'd lose.

Government that works or government that has never worked in the worlds history.

So you are saying we should avoid the Current administrations governing philosophy of redistribution of wealth? Glad to hear you are finally on board.

Lets have that debate instead of this phoney one issue crap or lies about what you really expect your chosen elected official to realy back.

Again, real debate would require you to be honest. I dont think that's going to happen.

Sadly, you've reminded me why my resolutions to be less sarcastic are going to take a while to actually accomplish.
 
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True Conservatives have been pissed off for years with the Republican party. Remember how some Rep. said the party needs to move more to the center and blah blah blah.
 
The problem is you will vote the the next joke the republican party throws at you too.
Haven't voted for a republican since '94, dingbat.

Lets have the REAL debate about what policies the American people want.

Government that works or government that has never worked in the worlds history.

Lets have that debate instead of this phoney one issue crap or lies about what you really expect your chosen elected official to realy back.
You trotting out a new stand-up comedy routine, or what?
 
True Conservatives have been pissed off for years with the Republican party. Remember how some Rep. said the party needs to move more to the center and blah blah blah.

Agreed...

...And not to mention a "larger tent", which they built. That tent became a Three-Ring Circus that mirrored the Democrats and precisely the point that Conservatives were trying to make. The fruit bore from the exercise speaks for itself.

You do not defeat your opposition by mirroring them and expect to stay in power.

And Republicans got the exact amout of scorn they deserved.
 
YOU are the ones who elected and stood by the last administration, no matter how much they spent, no matter how much they bloated the federal bureaucracy, no matter the bailouts, no matter the sellouts, no matter the cop-outs, no matter how much they campaigned like libertarians and governed like progressive democrats.

Fiscal conservatives didn't give us Medicare D, insane transportation ans spending bills, Wall Street bailouts, airline bailouts, auto bailouts and extension after extension after extension of unemployment handouts.

Civil libertarians didn't give us the USAPATRIOT act, the Department of Fatherl...er...Homeland Security, expansions of snoop programs like Echilon and Carnivore, TSA, and two foreign wars with no coherent end end games in sight.

Nor did any fiscal conservative or civil libertarian suspend his presidential campaign as a stunt, only to go along with the party line in the end.

Democrats didn't nominate a candidate who was unwilling to do what it took to win.

It's not anybody's fault but your own that all you've offered is crappy and defective product after crappy and defective product.

You chumps own the Boyking and his merry band of despotic cramdown artists as much as the other party does.

:blahblah:

Not everything the government does is bad. I completely support Pres. Bush's war on terrorism, and everything he did in that fight.

I do stand behind the last administration.
 
Im glad to see so many of you are facing the fact that Bush was a disastor.

The problem is you will vote the the next joke the republican party throws at you too.

They tell you what you want to hear and you buy the bullshit every time.

RUN on your true beliefs.

Dont vote for one single republican party selection and vote only for the tea party candidate or non republican.

You see the tea party ideas are old failed ideas too just like tghe R party ideas are but at least you will be sticking to your principles.

Lets have the REAL debate about what policies the American people want.

Government that works or government that has never worked in the worlds history.

Lets have that debate instead of this phoney one issue crap or lies about what you really expect your chosen elected official to realy back.

Pres. Bush was the best president of my lifetime.

He is the first president that had the balls to bring the fight on terrorism to where the terrorists were hiding.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiSwqaQ4VbA]YouTube - President Bush Speaks at Ground Zero - 9/14/01[/ame]

He said it, and he made it happen, that is very unlike Barak Hussein.
 
This is why the republican party is always fractured.

There is a huge sect of people that are not represented

But the republicans pretend to be fiscal while the democrats are outright proud of taking money from some to blatantly just waste it and give it to others.
 

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