Time for GOP panic? Establishment worried Carson or Trump might win

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Less than three months before the kick-off Iowa caucuses, there is growing anxiety bordering on panic among Republican elites about the dominance and durability of Donald Trump and Ben Carson and widespread bewilderment over how to defeat them.

Party leaders and donors fear nominating either man would have negative ramifications for the GOP ticket up and down the ballot, virtually ensuring a Hillary Rodham Clinton presidency and increasing the odds that the Senate falls into Democratic hands.

The party establishment is paralyzed. Big money is still on the sidelines. No consensus alternative to the outsiders has emerged from the pack of governors and senators running, and there is disagreement about how to prosecute the case against them. Recent focus groups of Trump supporters in Iowa and New Hampshire commissioned by rival campaigns revealed no silver bullet.

In normal times, the way forward would be obvious. The wannabes would launch concerted campaigns, including television attack ads, against the front-runners. But even if the other candidates had a sense of what might work this year, it is unclear if it would ultimately accrue to their benefit. Trump’s counter-punches have been withering, while Carson’s appeal to the base is spiritual, not merely political. Even if someone was able to do significant damage to them, there’s no telling who their supporters would turn to, if anyone.

“The rest of the field is still wishing upon a star that Trump and Carson are going to self-destruct,” said Eric Fehrnstrom, a former adviser to 2012 nominee Mitt Romney. But, he said, “they have to be made to self-destruct. . .Nothing has happened at this point to dislodge Trump or Carson.”

Fehrnstrom pointed out that the fourth debate passed this week without any candidate landing a blow against Trump or Carson. “We’re about to step into the holiday time accelerator,” he said. “You have Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year’s, then Iowa and a week later, New Hampshire, and it’s going to be over in the blink of an eye.”

According to other Republicans, some in the party establishment are so desperate to change the dynamic that they are talking anew about drafting Romney — despite his insistence that he will not run again. Friends have mapped out a strategy for a late entry to pick up delegates and vie for the nomination in a convention fight, according to the Republicans, who were briefed on the talks, though Romney has shown no indication of reviving his interest.

For months now, the GOP professional class assumed Trump and Carson would fade with time. Voters would get serious, the thinking went, after seeing the outsiders share a stage with more experienced politicians at the first debate. Or when summer turned to fall, kids went back to school and parents had time to assess the candidates. Or after the second, third or fourth debates, certainly.

None of that happened, of course, leaving establishment figures disoriented. Consider Thomas H. Kean Sr., a former New Jersey governor who for most of his 80 years has been a pillar of his party. His phone is ringing daily, bringing a stream of exasperation and confusion from fellow GOP power brokers.

“People usually start off in the same way: Pollyanna-ish,” Kean said. “They assure me that Trump and Carson will eventually fade. Then we’ll talk some more and I give them a reality check. I’ll say, ‘The guy in the grocery store likes Trump, so does the guy who cuts my hair. They’re probably going to stick with him. Who knows if this ends?’”

South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, herself an outsider who rode the tea party wave into office five years ago, explained the phenomenon.

“You have a lot of people who were told that if we got a majority in the House and a majority in the Senate, then life was gonna be great,” she said in an interview Thursday. “What you’re seeing is that people are angry. Where’s the change? Why aren’t there bills on the president’s desk every day for him to veto? They’re saying, ‘Look, what you said would happen didn’t happen, so we’re going to go with anyone who hasn’t been elected.’”​

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Republicans have only themselves to blame. This mess has been festering for a long time. I miss the old GOP - before Reagan.
 
well good news , bye bye gop , good info but I loved Reagan but still , thanks Lakhota !!
 
So the good ole boy network is seeing a shaky future for themselves. If they don't get their heads out of their asses, they'll all be gone shortly. They won't chose our candidate this time round.
 
aww its not over with but I hope rather than agree that you are correct 'OKTEXAS' !!
 
Wow, the GOP establishment must be in panic mode if they want to revive Romney. So funny...

GOP Establishment On Verge Of Panic As Trump, Carson Maintain Lead

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So the good ole boy network is seeing a shaky future for themselves. If they don't get their heads out of their asses, they'll all be gone shortly. They won't chose our candidate this time round.

Are you telling me that you hate the GOP so much you want the Democrats to take over the whole country?

Wow, some people are really out there.
 
So the good ole boy network is seeing a shaky future for themselves. If they don't get their heads out of their asses, they'll all be gone shortly. They won't chose our candidate this time round.

I would love to see Chris Christie debate the phony corrupt socialist, HRC. It will be good for America to have Obama gone and this candidate tells you why and it cannot be argued with anything other than facetiousness.

 
So the good ole boy network is seeing a shaky future for themselves. If they don't get their heads out of their asses, they'll all be gone shortly. They won't chose our candidate this time round.

Are you telling me that you hate the GOP so much you want the Democrats to take over the whole country?

Wow, some people are really out there.
yep SwimExpert , that's what I'll do , don't know what the other Gent will do but I'm going 'dem' if Trump or Cruz don't get the nomination .
 
Considering that the public as a whole is pretty sick and tired of the establishment on both sides, you could argue that this is a good thing.
 
and --- I dislike the dems but i dislike moderate republicans even more SExpert !! You 'gop'ers' may finally be going down !!
 
So the good ole boy network is seeing a shaky future for themselves. If they don't get their heads out of their asses, they'll all be gone shortly. They won't chose our candidate this time round.

I would love to see Chris Christie debate the phony corrupt socialist, HRC. It will be good for America to have Obama gone and this candidate tells you why and it cannot be argued with anything other than facetiousness.



Funny. Christie's fat ass may soon be in prison.
 
So the good ole boy network is seeing a shaky future for themselves. If they don't get their heads out of their asses, they'll all be gone shortly. They won't chose our candidate this time round.

I would love to see Chris Christie debate the phony corrupt socialist, HRC. It will be good for America to have Obama gone and this candidate tells you why and it cannot be argued with anything other than facetiousness.



Funny. Christie's fat ass may soon be in prison.


Funnier! You meant to say Hillary's, :rofl:
 
So the good ole boy network is seeing a shaky future for themselves. If they don't get their heads out of their asses, they'll all be gone shortly. They won't chose our candidate this time round.

Are you telling me that you hate the GOP so much you want the Democrats to take over the whole country?

Wow, some people are really out there.
yep SwimExpert , that's what I'll do , don't know what the other Gent will do but I'm going 'dem' if Trump or Cruz don't get the nomination .

Cutting off your nose to spite your face. *shakes head*
 
So the good ole boy network is seeing a shaky future for themselves. If they don't get their heads out of their asses, they'll all be gone shortly. They won't chose our candidate this time round.

I would love to see Chris Christie debate the phony corrupt socialist, HRC. It will be good for America to have Obama gone and this candidate tells you why and it cannot be argued with anything other than facetiousness.



Funny. Christie's fat ass may soon be in prison.


For what? I mean, I'm not a fan... but why would he be in jail?
 
THe GOP establishment broight us McCain and Romney, Boehner and McConnell. Those are people ShittingBull regulaarly lambasts on here daily. Why wouldnt he be thrilled to see them scared that the GOP is rejecting them?
Oh yeah, because he's a hyper partisan turd magnet.
 
So the good ole boy network is seeing a shaky future for themselves. If they don't get their heads out of their asses, they'll all be gone shortly. They won't chose our candidate this time round.

Are you telling me that you hate the GOP so much you want the Democrats to take over the whole country? maybe but I'll also get you moderate rinos if you are one . Get ready to pay for free college , slave reparations , free healthcare , free food , free housing !! Think of me when you are paying out your money for all the FREE stuff SwimExpert !!

Wow, some people are really out there.
yep SwimExpert , that's what I'll do , don't know what the other Gent will do but I'm going 'dem' if Trump or Cruz don't get the nomination .

Cutting off your nose to spite your face. *shakes head*
 
THe GOP establishment broight us McCain and Romney, Boehner and McConnell. Those are people ShittingBull regulaarly lambasts on here daily. Why wouldnt he be thrilled to see them scared that the GOP is rejecting them?
Oh yeah, because he's a hyper partisan turd magnet.

Amen, Jew Boy! Amen!
 
I'll just be giving the moderate rinos a gift , be giving them a way to spend their money on FREE stuff for the lefties SwimExpert !!
 

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