Time for Cast Lead II - SHOW NO MERCY BIBI!!!

[GHook93]

Who woulda guessed this would be come a heated discussion Think in someways this comes down to whether you believe in the Bush doctrine of preemptive strikes. Self defense can be a loose term for both sides

Is Israel acting in self defense?

Get your facts right Eurotrash! When 100s of missiles are lobbied daily at you and then you strike back, THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF DEFENSIVE ACTIONS!

 

[toomuchtime_]

**** Israhell and their zionist sympathizers. You love Israhell so much get the **** out of the USA and move there. I pray for the day that shitty little state is rocked by the hand of God and disappears from the face of the Earth. It is the scourge of humanity.

God heard that and He is not pleased with you.

 

[Roudy]

So how come the Jews have killed six times as many Arabs since 2000?

"At least 6,617 Palestinians and 1,097 Israelis
have been killed since September 29, 2000."

Has Bibi decided on an Eastern border for the "Chosen State?"

Israelis and Palestinians Killed since 9/29/2000

How many times do we have to answer the same thing to you morons? Number of dead does not indicate right or wrong. Germany lost 9 million of it's citizens versus US 365,000 did that make the Nazis right?

How many of those Germans died after the US imposed its occupation?

Israel has been the Occupying Power in Palestine since 1967.
During that time Jews have killed multiples of Arabs in all the occupied territories.
Might makes right?
Stupid *****.

You upset that Jews don't let Arabs kill them the way the want to? Good.

 

[toastman]

Make it Cast Lead on Steroids! Show no mercy. Look Bibi, you are damned if you do and damned if you don't. You have a duty and obligation to protect your people. The narrative in the international community will be the same.

The LIBERAL-RUN-muslim-sympathizing-Jew-slandering world media with neglect to report on the 100s of daily missile attacks from Gaza (which started this); they will ignore the fact that Hamas invites children and women deaths, since they fire missiles from apartment buildings, schools, mosques and hospitals, fire missiles from densely civilian populated areas; they regularly have children present around their leaders so these children may die to score PR points; Hamas still has in its charter states it's goal is the destruction of Israel and the death of every Jew etc. None of these points will be reported.

All they will say is how dare Israel defend herself. The silent majority in Europe that is sick of Muslin biligerents will be applauding Israel, but don't have the microphone to express it. There will be calls for boycotts that will be ignored. The so called academics will get on their high-horses. Turkey will saber raddle while they persecute Cyprus, Kurds, Christians and deny the Armenian holocaust. Arabs and Persians will make threats, but do nothing. European leaders will call for restraint (like they do with Syria) but won't mean it. Obama will flounder like he usu does!

In the end your PR battle will be lost no matter what you do, so WIN the military battle. Every Hamas installation civilian or military should be destroyed. Go after Hamas fighter and try to minimize civilians, but collateral damage is acceptable. Smash infrastructure that the Hamas terrorist government will have to spend resources to rebuilt after the battle. Hit Gaza 100 fold harder! Make them think twice, three or four times about ever firing even one missile at Israel every again.

Time to show strength NOT weakness!!!

So how come the Jews have killed six times as many Arabs since 2000?

"At least 6,617 Palestinians and 1,097 Israelis
have been killed since September 29, 2000."

Has Bibi decided on an Eastern border for the "Chosen State?"

Israelis and Palestinians Killed since 9/29/2000

How many times do we have to answer the same thing to you morons? Number of dead does not indicate right or wrong. Germany lost 9 million of it's citizens versus US 365,000 did that make the Nazis right?

Israel will ALWAYS use disproportionate force. People need to understand that. ALWAYS.

 

[Jos]

And hopefully that number will be 40,000 or 400,000! 400 is way too low!

They shouldn't mess with the bull if they don't want to get the horns!

Why not six Million, or is that number copyrighted?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Israel will ALWAYS use disproportionate force. People need to understand that. ALWAYS.

Years ago, I was in a bar There was a guy, 5'2" at a buck twenty standing with a drink, chatting up some girl. An obviously drunk dude, 6"4" pushing 300, stumbles by and crashes into the little guy, spilling his Appletini (or whatever), then stumbles again and plants both hands on the girls tits to catch himself. This enrages the little guy, who slaps the big guy across the face. The reaction was the big dude beating the little ****** half to death.

Moral of the story, don't assault people you have no ******* chance against, no matter WHAT insult you think they cast at you.

You don't want Israel to respond? Stop launching terrorist attacks, you stupid fuckers.

 

[Jos]

Moral of the story, don't assault people you have no ******* chance against, no matter WHAT insult you think they cast at you.

You don't want Israel to respond? Stop launching terrorist attacks, you stupid fuckers.

Iran

 

[Hossfly]

So how come the Jews have killed six times as many Arabs since 2000?

"At least 6,617 Palestinians and 1,097 Israelis
have been killed since September 29, 2000."

Has Bibi decided on an Eastern border for the "Chosen State?"

Israelis and Palestinians Killed since 9/29/2000

How many times do we have to answer the same thing to you morons? Number of dead does not indicate right or wrong. Germany lost 9 million of it's citizens versus US 365,000 did that make the Nazis right?

Israel will ALWAYS use disproportionate force. People need to understand that. ALWAYS.

Over 50 years ago I was taught in US military tactics training that under desirable battlefield conditions the ideal difference is 5-1 over opposing forces.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Moral of the story, don't assault people you have no ******* chance against, no matter WHAT insult you think they cast at you.

You don't want Israel to respond? Stop launching terrorist attacks, you stupid fuckers.

Iran

Indeed, Iran should heed that advice.

 

[kvetch]

How many times do we have to answer the same thing to you morons? Number of dead does not indicate right or wrong. Germany lost 9 million of it's citizens versus US 365,000 did that make the Nazis right?

Israel will ALWAYS use disproportionate force. People need to understand that. ALWAYS.

Over 50 years ago I was taught in US military tactics training that under desirable battlefield conditions the ideal difference is 5-1 over opposing forces.

and who won that vietnam war, you and tinny too were in, hossy?

no offence to you intended

but facts are facts

ok the vietnamese suffered 3 million dead to your 57,000

but they were prepared to pay that price and so are the pals

and as long as that is true; the pals will win

hamas has already seen off sharon who retreated from gaza
same with hizbollah in getting israel out of south lebanon

and the USA itself out of lebanon, somalia, afghanistan, etc etc

you can trumpet how many killed as loud as you like
that dont matter to guerillas;

it should but it just doesn't bother them how many die
its get those invaders / occupiers / zio land thieves out at all costs!!

then they create this ghastly cult of martyrdom
to dignify their total disrespect for their own folx lives
in a holy cloak of allah with 72 virgins thrown in!

you cannot and will not win against that

a fair and just political solution is the only way, as with the PLO

understand??

 

[Hossfly]

Israel will ALWAYS use disproportionate force. People need to understand that. ALWAYS.

Over 50 years ago I was taught in US military tactics training that under desirable battlefield conditions the ideal difference is 5-1 over opposing forces.

and who won that vietnam war, you and tinny too were in, hossy?

no offence to you intended

but facts are facts

ok the vietnamese suffered 3 million dead to your 57,000

but they were prepared to pay that price and so are the pals

and as long as that is true; the pals will win

hamas has already seen off sharon who retreated from gaza
same with hizbollah in getting israel out of south lebanon

and the USA itself out of lebanon, somalia, afghanistan, etc etc

you can trumpet how many killed as loud as you like
that dont matter to guerillas;

it should but it just doesn't bother them how many die
its get those invaders / occupiere / land thieves out at all costs!!

then they create this ghastly cult of martyrdom
to dignify their total disrespect for their own folx lives
in a holy cloak of allah with 72 virgins thrown in!

you cannot and will not win against that
political solution is the only way, as with the PLO

understand??

No I don't understand. I was clarifying remarks about desirable battlefield advantage. No need to get all ratchet mouthed.

 

[NLT]

well, if this isn't a pathetic little whine fest on behalf of one of the most heavily armed militarys in the world against a very poorly armed army of liberation, i don't know what is.

finally, jews cheer for the goliath to trample the child with a sling.

Kids throwing rocks at giants deserve to get thier ass stomped into little brown stains.

 

[kvetch]

Israel will ALWAYS use disproportionate force. People need to understand that. ALWAYS.

Years ago, I was in a bar There was a guy, 5'2" at a buck twenty standing with a drink, chatting up some girl. An obviously drunk dude, 6"4" pushing 300, stumbles by and crashes into the little guy, spilling his Appletini (or whatever), then stumbles again and plants both hands on the girls tits to catch himself. This enrages the little guy, who slaps the big guy across the face. The reaction was the big dude beating the little ****** half to death.

Moral of the story, don't assault people you have no ******* chance against, no matter WHAT insult you think they cast at you.

You don't want Israel to respond? Stop launching terrorist attacks, you stupid fuckers.

its exactly the other way around you idiot

dont steal the gazan's homes, lands and property from 1948 to 1956

chuck them in ghastly refugee camps run by egyptians who couldn't care less

then invade and occupy gaza in 1967

fund hamas for 10 years after that as israel did, then

then crack down hard when the intifada started

turning hamas into a violent terrorist group

then kill about 50,000 more gazans between 1967 and now
that's 50,000 families wanting bloody revenge

and think that ONLY israael and not these "sub human" gazan savages have the right to respond to violent attack

get the world to ignore their plight so no justice or respect is shown to gazans at all with no possibility of peaceful redress

then divide and rule by helping the split between hamas and the PLO

when hamas wins a free and fair democratic election in all of palestine
arrest their elected parliamentary members
put them in israeli jails

then engineer a coup in the west bank so the PLO takes it over

and break several truces with hamas, deliberately so israel could win an election with cast lead, but lost it anyway

then blockade gaza with a siege that is collectively punishi ng all gazans in defiance of all international law

even count the calories gazans are allowed to eat

all these things have caused gazans to support hamas

and further atrocites will strengthen hamas even more, just as cawst lead did

THAT'S HOW WRONG YOU ARE

 

[toomuchtime_]

Israel will ALWAYS use disproportionate force. People need to understand that. ALWAYS.

Over 50 years ago I was taught in US military tactics training that under desirable battlefield conditions the ideal difference is 5-1 over opposing forces.

and who won that vietnam war, you and tinny too were in, hossy?

no offence to you intended

but facts are facts

ok the vietnamese suffered 3 million dead to your 57,000

but they were prepared to pay that price and so are the pals

and as long as that is true; the pals will win

hamas has already seen off sharon who retreated from gaza
same with hizbollah in getting israel out of south lebanon

and the USA itself out of lebanon, somalia, afghanistan, etc etc

you can trumpet how many killed as loud as you like
that dont matter to guerillas;

it should but it just doesn't bother them how many die
its get those invaders / occupiers / zio land thieves out at all costs!!

then they create this ghastly cult of martyrdom
to dignify their total disrespect for their own folx lives
in a holy cloak of allah with 72 virgins thrown in!

you cannot and will not win against that

a fair and just political solution is the only way, as with the PLO

understand??

Silly stuff. What do you imagine the Palestinian Arabs will win? The Israelis are not foreign occupiers who can pull up stakes and go home; this is their home, and they will be as tenacious in defending their home as any other people would. Most of the Palestinian Arabs followed the British into the area after WWI and can claim no greater right to the land than the Israelis can. If it is true that the Palestinian Arabs are willing to suffer huge losses it just means a lot of them will die, not that they will win.

 

[kvetch]

over 50 years ago i was taught in us military tactics training that under desirable battlefield conditions the ideal difference is 5-1 over opposing forces.

and who won that vietnam war, you and tinny too were in, hossy?

No offence to you intended

but facts are facts

ok the vietnamese suffered 3 million dead to your 57,000

but they were prepared to pay that price and so are the pals

and as long as that is true; the pals will win

hamas has already seen off sharon who retreated from gaza
same with hizbollah in getting israel out of south lebanon

and the usa itself out of lebanon, somalia, afghanistan, etc etc

you can trumpet how many killed as loud as you like
that dont matter to guerillas;

it should but it just doesn't bother them how many die
its get those invaders / occupiere / land thieves out at all costs!!

Then they create this ghastly cult of martyrdom
to dignify their total disrespect for their own folx lives
in a holy cloak of allah with 72 virgins thrown in!

You cannot and will not win against that
political solution is the only way, as with the plo

understand??

no i don't understand. I was clarifying remarks about desirable battlefield advantage. No need to get all ratchet mouthed.

sorry hossy bear

 

[toomuchtime_]

Israel will ALWAYS use disproportionate force. People need to understand that. ALWAYS.

Years ago, I was in a bar There was a guy, 5'2" at a buck twenty standing with a drink, chatting up some girl. An obviously drunk dude, 6"4" pushing 300, stumbles by and crashes into the little guy, spilling his Appletini (or whatever), then stumbles again and plants both hands on the girls tits to catch himself. This enrages the little guy, who slaps the big guy across the face. The reaction was the big dude beating the little ****** half to death.

Moral of the story, don't assault people you have no ******* chance against, no matter WHAT insult you think they cast at you.

You don't want Israel to respond? Stop launching terrorist attacks, you stupid fuckers.

its exactly the other way around you idiot

dont steal the gazan's homes, lands and property from 1948 to 1956

chuck them in ghastly refugee camps run by egyptians who couldn't care less

then invade and occupy gaza in 1967

fund hamas for 10 years after that as israel did, then

then crack down hard when the intifada started

turning hamas into a violent terrorist group

then kill about 50,000 more gazans between 1967 and now
that's 50,000 families wanting bloody revenge

and think that ONLY israael and not these "sub human" gazan savages have the right to respond to violent attack

get the world to ignore their plight so no justice or respect is shown to gazans at all with no possibility of peaceful redress

then divide and rule by helping the split between hamas and the PLO

when hamas wins a free and fair democratic election in all of palestine
arrest their elected parliamentary members
put them in israeli jails

then engineer a coup in the west bank so the PLO takes it over

and break several truces with hamas, deliberately so israel could win an election with cast lead, but lost it anyway

then blockade gaza with a siege that is collectively punishi ng all gazans in defiance of all international law

even count the calories gazans are allowed to eat

all these things have caused gazans to support hamas

and further atrocites will strengthen hamas even more, just as cawst lead did

THAT'S HOW WRONG YOU ARE

It might help if you stopped to think for a minute before putting down your rants. Why do you think Hamas refused to allow elections in Gaza in 2009 when they term in office expired? Or why did they refuse to allow elections in 2010 or 2011? Why are they refusing to allow elections again this year? It is because the blockade did not strengthen them, it weakened them to the point that they dare not allow new elections because they know they would lose.

 

[kvetch]

Over 50 years ago I was taught in US military tactics training that under desirable battlefield conditions the ideal difference is 5-1 over opposing forces.

and who won that vietnam war, you and tinny too were in, hossy?

no offence to you intended

but facts are facts

ok the vietnamese suffered 3 million dead to your 57,000

but they were prepared to pay that price and so are the pals

and as long as that is true; the pals will win

hamas has already seen off sharon who retreated from gaza
same with hizbollah in getting israel out of south lebanon

and the USA itself out of lebanon, somalia, afghanistan, etc etc

you can trumpet how many killed as loud as you like
that dont matter to guerillas;

it should but it just doesn't bother them how many die
its get those invaders / occupiers / zio land thieves out at all costs!!

then they create this ghastly cult of martyrdom
to dignify their total disrespect for their own folx lives
in a holy cloak of allah with 72 virgins thrown in!

you cannot and will not win against that

a fair and just political solution is the only way, as with the PLO

understand??

Silly stuff. What do you imagine the Palestinian Arabs will win? The Israelis are not foreign occupiers who can pull up stakes and go home; this is their home, and they will be as tenacious in defending their home as any other people would. Most of the Palestinian Arabs followed the British into the area after WWI and can claim no greater right to the land than the Israelis can. If it is true that the Palestinian Arabs are willing to suffer huge losses it just means a lot of them will die, not that they will win.

TOO MUCH TIME

we have tried arguing before

you are lucid and eloquent and polite, unlike your zio-pals

but we went back and forth

so I thought

lets agree to disagree

i don't have too much time for an argument that is like an endless stalemate

done it; got the t-shirt

would rather spend energy and time with those i can communicate with better than stalemate mode

so that's how i feel

respect for you but no dice

 

[irosie91]

mamzer----I am fully convinced-----based on what I have seen and heard-----from primary sources, that the people who will hold Israel together are those who either experienced the "ISLAMIC SOCIETY" of have a family legacy of the "ISLAMIC SOCIETY" I am even convinced that it is those people who won the 1948 war. The current "back to islam" movement in the islamic world-----is like the ummah shooting itself in the foot -------not only will the jews who have experienced the "beauty of shariah" stand against it----so will the christians and hindus and etc etc etc

 

[kvetch]

Make it Cast Lead on Steroids! Show no mercy. Look Bibi, you are damned if you do and damned if you don't. You have a duty and obligation to protect your people. The narrative in the international community will be the same.

The LIBERAL-RUN-muslim-sympathizing-Jew-slandering world media with neglect to report on the 100s of daily missile attacks from Gaza (which started this); they will ignore the fact that Hamas invites children and women deaths, since they fire missiles from apartment buildings, schools, mosques and hospitals, fire missiles from densely civilian populated areas; they regularly have children present around their leaders so these children may die to score PR points; Hamas still has in its charter states it's goal is the destruction of Israel and the death of every Jew etc. None of these points will be reported.

All they will say is how dare Israel defend herself. The silent majority in Europe that is sick of Muslin biligerents will be applauding Israel, but don't have the microphone to express it. There will be calls for boycotts that will be ignored. The so called academics will get on their high-horses. Turkey will saber raddle while they persecute Cyprus, Kurds, Christians and deny the Armenian holocaust. Arabs and Persians will make threats, but do nothing. European leaders will call for restraint (like they do with Syria) but won't mean it. Obama will flounder like he usu does!

In the end your PR battle will be lost no matter what you do, so WIN the military battle. Every Hamas installation civilian or military should be destroyed. Go after Hamas fighter and try to minimize civilians, but collateral damage is acceptable. Smash infrastructure that the Hamas terrorist government will have to spend resources to rebuilt after the battle. Hit Gaza 100 fold harder! Make them think twice, three or four times about ever firing even one missile at Israel every again.

Time to show strength NOT weakness!!!

So how come the Jews have killed six times as many Arabs since 2000?

"At least 6,617 Palestinians and 1,097 Israelis
have been killed since September 29, 2000."

Has Bibi decided on an Eastern border for the "Chosen State?"

Israelis and Palestinians Killed since 9/29/2000

How many times do we have to answer the same thing to you morons? Number of dead does not indicate right or wrong. Germany lost 9 million of it's citizens versus US 365,000 did that make the Nazis right?

and the soviet red army won the war against the nazis at a cost of 25 million dead
including 2 out of the 6 million dead jews whom they didn't bother to put in camps
they were killed wherever they could be found

if they the soviets...15 nations, not just russians then......had not made that huge sacrifice, I would not exist today and nor would israel either

it wasnt the USA or the Brits that defeated Hitler it was the soviet union

they did about 80% of all the fighting against hitler in europe

in israel there is a war memorial to the red army dead

nowhere else in western europe or USA

SHAME ON USA AND UK TOO

so your argument fails, roudy...........in the case of world war 2, that is which is what you were talking about

ever read or seen films about the battles of Stalingrad, Kursk..the largest tank battle in history by far, the siege of Leningrad and how heroic the red army had to be

commie bastards or no; they were fighting for survival as a nation and they won

you yanks won the war against japan
USSR won the war against hitler...with great help from USA and UK
but the red army would have won all on their own if they had had to....maybe 10 million more dead in the fight
but they were the ones that beat hitler

not what you yanx are taught in schools is it; nor us brits
but the truth, whether yanx or brits like it or not

jews, however should know better than most ignorant yanx or brits
we have a special reason, dont we, to know the truth...........

for us jews, survival was truly at stake against hitler
and we should all be really clear whom we owe our largest debt of honour to
whether it is politically expedient or not, or taught in our schools and media

what is 375,000 dead americans against 25 million citizens of the USSR
not a whole lot, actually, grateful tho we are to you in europe for your rather late help!

dont you agree roudy....i'm fairly sure you do, actually
i wasnt trying to win no argument here....far too serious!

 

[Moonglow]

Make it Cast Lead on Steroids! Show no mercy. Look Bibi, you are damned if you do and damned if you don't. You have a duty and obligation to protect your people. The narrative in the international community will be the same.

The LIBERAL-RUN-muslim-sympathizing-Jew-slandering world media with neglect to report on the 100s of daily missile attacks from Gaza (which started this); they will ignore the fact that Hamas invites children and women deaths, since they fire missiles from apartment buildings, schools, mosques and hospitals, fire missiles from densely civilian populated areas; they regularly have children present around their leaders so these children may die to score PR points; Hamas still has in its charter states it's goal is the destruction of Israel and the death of every Jew etc. None of these points will be reported.

All they will say is how dare Israel defend herself. The silent majority in Europe that is sick of Muslin biligerents will be applauding Israel, but don't have the microphone to express it. There will be calls for boycotts that will be ignored. The so called academics will get on their high-horses. Turkey will saber raddle while they persecute Cyprus, Kurds, Christians and deny the Armenian holocaust. Arabs and Persians will make threats, but do nothing. European leaders will call for restraint (like they do with Syria) but won't mean it. Obama will flounder like he usu does!

In the end your PR battle will be lost no matter what you do, so WIN the military battle. Every Hamas installation civilian or military should be destroyed. Go after Hamas fighter and try to minimize civilians, but collateral damage is acceptable. Smash infrastructure that the Hamas terrorist government will have to spend resources to rebuilt after the battle. Hit Gaza 100 fold harder! Make them think twice, three or four times about ever firing even one missile at Israel every again.

Time to show strength NOT weakness!!!

The LIBERAL-RUN-muslim-sympathizing-Jew-slandering world media with neglect to report on the 100s of daily missile attacks from Gaza

You should try getting you head out of your ass long enough to see the reports about missles being fired by the US media.