Thumbs Down On Trump Taking the Qatar 747!

[TemplarKormac]

I don't know about you, but something tells me the rest of these guys would be singing an entirely different tune if it was a Democrat. In fact, I have zero doubt about that.

Heh.

It's a broken record, but I can't speak to them. I can only speak for myself.

Think of it as a testament to tribal politics, which this is.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

At the highest levels, they're all "in the club." That is something you (and most here) just don't get.

There are rinos involved in the treason as well.

Soon tapes of the club members will leak and Americans will bring them to justice.

The wealth fund will benefit greatly from all their confiscated assets.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Those involved in the intentional collapse of America are traitors.

Say what you will.

 

[BackAgain]

If it were a Statue of Liberty sort of gift, I would agree. But a jet that will be the central command center for the President in worst case scenarios is fraught with many issues.

Nah. It will be closely scrutinized by our experts. It may even need additional equipment. Once it’s fully secured and operational, it might even serve as a useful tool for us in a variety of ways.

Other nations may also seek to curry favor with us (ie, with President Trump).

Besides, President Trump doesn’t need to scam America to get wealthy as Obumbler and Potato are infamous for. President Trump is doing all of this FOR America.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

Say what you will.

In counties WEF/Democrats control like the UK, I would be arrested for my post

 

[TemplarKormac]

One little birdie told me we could actually use it for deportation flights.

But that would seem like a waste, using it as a garbage scowl.

 

[TemplarKormac]

In counties WEF/Democrats control like the UK, I would be arrested for my post

Of course you would. Lucky you're in America, eh?

 

[TheGreatSatan]

One little birdie told me we could actually use it for deportation flights.

But that would seem like a waste, using it as a garbage scowl.

It would be great for diplomatic missions

 

[TemplarKormac]

It would be great for diplomatic missions

Yep. As Air Force One.

 

[MarathonMike]

That's why they sweep it for bugs and sabotage. That's a no-brainer.

It can be altered to suit the needs of the President once it's transferred stateside. Completely innocuous.

Not a no brainer at all. I was a systems engineer for my entire career. That is NOT the kind of nation to nation gift we want or need.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

Not a no brainer at all. I was a systems engineer for my entire career. That is NOT the kind of nation to nation gift we want or need.

Sure it is.

It can be used for all kinds of things.

It can be sold off and used to pay down debt.

 

[justoffal]

Very verbose OP. And wrong.

There is objectively nothing wrong with the President accepting a gift from a nation for our nation.

It's not Trump accepting the gift it's the department of defense. These guys are idiots.

 

[justoffal]

I don't know about you, but something tells me the rest of these guys would be singing an entirely different tune if it was a Democrat. In fact, I have zero doubt about that.

It's not even being reported properly. The gift is being made to the department of defense.
The plane itself is in much better shape than the current Air Force One garage of two planes.
The current models are nearly 40 years old and becoming dangerous to fly and very expensive to maintain.

 

[BackAgain]

It's not Trump accepting the gift it's the department of defense. These guys are idiots.

It was Trump accepting it on behalf of America and our DoD.

And yes. Some of our libtards are indeed idiots.

 

[candycorn]

Be honest. Would you say the same thing if a Demorat accepted a 400 million dollar jet from a country that the government says supports terrorism?

You're asking him to be honest? Good luck getting water from that rock.

 

[candycorn]

If this had happened in April 2017, I'd be aghast because at that point because I didn't know what a lump of shit Trump was. Now? We'll just chalk it up to another nail in the American coffin. Qatar provided support for the 9/11 hijackers. The gift of an airplane seems right in line with the rest of the blob's administration to celebrate the absolute worst in humanity.

 

[candycorn]

One little birdie told me we could actually use it for deportation flights.

But that would seem like a waste, using it as a garbage scowl.

Any time Trump is on a plane, the plane becomes a garbage scowl.

 

[HikerGuy83]

President Trump should not take the $400 million Boeing 747 as a gift from Qatar to replace Air Force One. The primary reason has to with the character and values that a U.S. President should always exhibit. America is the greatest country on earth it has been abundantly blessed by God in a league unto itself. The President of the United States is the leader of this awesome country his actions as President should rise to the level of the stature of the country and not only be guided by principle but always give the impression that they are. Accepting a gift of this size tarnishes the integrity of President Trump it can raises the issue in reasonable people's minds that he is possibly inclined to favor the country of Qatar in Presidential decisions contrary to what principles call for. The wrongdoing here is in perception and such a perception is relevant because issues lie with Qatar where a bias could make a difference; one being the U.S. has a major air base in Qatar if a peace deal is reached in the Ukrainian War and a European Union peace keeping force is established on the armistice line and the U.S. is drafted to protect this peace keeping force sensible judgment could call for a downgrade on the resourcing of this Qatar base and an upgrade of resourcing U.S. bases closer to Ukraine, a Qatar biased President might not follow common wisdom here based on that bias! Also, a President should protect the Office of the Presidency, he or she should not establish precedents that weaken the office; accepting gifts of humongous monetary value would then justify future Presidents doing the same a President sanctioning such behavior weakens the Office of the Presidency it subjects it to be unduly influenced by such gifts. Further, good leaders try to follow the same rules that rank and file in their organization have to follow; rank and file members of the U.S. government have to follow ethics rules where there is a prohibition against receiving gifts. President Trump contrary to the spin is in reality violating this ethical rule which is not displaying the quality of leadership the American people would hope their President would display!

One thing that really doesn't make too much sense to me is the taking on this controversy really worth it to President Trump I mean from the standpoint of the following this Qatar 747 is going to have to be turned into an Air Force One (Suitable for the President) plane meaning that U.S. authorities have to take this Qatat 747 and add a missile defense system too it; harden the structure of the plane so it can fly through a nuclear radiation cloud and the occupants of the plane won't be killed or severely sickened by radiation, add sophisticated communication which a President needs and add the technology that allows the plane to be refueled in the air, this will probably take the better part of two years so President Trump will have a luxurious 747 for the last two years of his term is this short period of reward worth tarnishing your reputation for integrity over, I don't think so! Today, CNN reported that the cost to do everything that will need to be done to the Qatar 747 plane to make it an Air Force One plane will be $750 million dollars, apparently the plane needs to be completely disassembled to check for listening devices and then reassembled; if Trump takes the Qatar 747 gift and pursues the modification with this price tag it will really set him up for great ridicule because he has repeatedly bragged about how he did an outstanding job in negotiating for the new Air Force One planes from Boeing how Boeing originally quoted over $5 billion for them and how he President Trump stood his ground and wouldn't go to four billion or higher and how he prevailed with the deal ending up being $3.999 billion. People will say why didn't Trump just agree to $4.75 billion for the new Air Force One planes Boeing wouldn't have gotten a fair profit out of the deal and been incentivized to fill the order quickly and Trump would probably have new Air Force One planes right now he could fly around in instead of twelve to forty year old Boeings that are not near the same quality of plane!

Boeing was taking forever.

How about that for being "American" ?

 

[my2¢]

I'm not looking at it as a sort of Trojan Horse, but the question I have is how much money will be needed to retrofit it to the security specifications called for in transporting the President?

 

[gtopa1]

Be honest. Would you say the same thing if a Demorat accepted a 400 million dollar jet from a country that the government says supports terrorism?

Bloody oath we would; refusing a GIFT is bad manners in Arab countries; of course saying no; it's TOO generous and one is not worthy etc etc is a given but in the end; Refuse it and it's an insult!!

Only problem I see is that it's a Boeing. lol

Greg