Thumbs Down On Trump Taking the Qatar 747!

[Zincwarrior]

I was looking for a thread about your contempt with Obama over this.

The Saudi royal family is the most generous giver, accounting for about $1.3 million in goodies, with the late King Abdullah spending more than a million dollars on baubles for Michelle Obama.

https://www.cnn.com/2015/12/01/politics/barack-obama-michelle-obama-gifts

Wait, if its bad then why us it ok now?

 

[Meister]

Wait, if its bad then why us it ok now?

I'm not the one who says it's bad, Zinc., I'm just showing the selected hypocrisy.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

We'll just have to agree to disagree. Accepting a jet that will be the central command and control center for President Trump and future Presidents from a country of ill repute, shall we say, does not even pass the smell test. Trump has lots of ideas, they are not all winners and this is not a winner.

It wasn't Trump's idea, dumbass! Your TDS is active, again!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It would have to be gutted and refitted at the very least.

Why?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Like the $5.5Bn golf resort in Qatar he also just got.

Link or you lie. What is it with you?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Why do you think a regime that supports Hamas would give Trump a $5.5Bn resort deal and then a $400mm plane?

Where are your links?

Back to the dishes, Sink Worrier! The restaurant is running low on silverware!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

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Maybe he start a new airline after his presidency that's on time...

Not until after Sean Duffy revamps the ATC system.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

"The Statue of Liberty, a gift from the people of France, arrived in America on June 17, 1885. The French people presented the statue to recognize America as a champion of liberty and to encourage the French to support the same ideals. This act of goodwill was a commemoration of the alliance forged between France and the United States during the American Revolution.

Originally, the statue was meant to be located in Egypt, specifically at the entrance of the Suez Canal. Designed by Frédéric Auguste Bartholdi, the statue depicted an “Egyptian peasant in Muslim garments.” However, Egyptian officials rejected the proposal, deeming it too expensive.

In terms of financing, while France paid for the statue itself, the United States was responsible for building its pedestal. This joint effort between the two countries solidified their commitment to liberty and friendship.

The statue was officially presented to the United States in a ceremony held in Paris on July 4, 1884. The completed Statue of Liberty was handed over to the U.S. ambassador as a symbol of the enduring friendship between France and the United States."

Hmmm Then four short years later they piss all over the idea of liberty from 1889 to 1899 French Revolution.

You just received an F in history. You are only off by an f-ing century! 1789-1799

 

[MarathonMike]

It wasn't Trump's idea, dumbass! Your TDS is active, again!

STFU you are being an idiot again.

 

[Lesh]

...which the Air Force and Boeing have failed to do!

The plane isn’t even here yet genius

 

[Calypso Jones]

Boeing should be damned ashamed.

 

[Orangecat]

President Trump should not take the $400 million Boeing 747 as a gift from Qatar to replace Air Force One. The primary reason has to with the character and values that a U.S. President should always exhibit. America is the greatest country on earth it has been abundantly blessed by God in a league unto itself. The President of the United States is the leader of this awesome country his actions as President should rise to the level of the stature of the country and not only be guided by principle but always give the impression that they are. Accepting a gift of this size tarnishes the integrity of President Trump it can raises the issue in reasonable people's minds that he is possibly inclined to favor the country of Qatar in Presidential decisions contrary to what principles call for. The wrongdoing here is in perception and such a perception is relevant because issues lie with Qatar where a bias could make a difference; one being the U.S. has a major air base in Qatar if a peace deal is reached in the Ukrainian War and a European Union peace keeping force is established on the armistice line and the U.S. is drafted to protect this peace keeping force sensible judgment could call for a downgrade on the resourcing of this Qatar base and an upgrade of resourcing U.S. bases closer to Ukraine, a Qatar biased President might not follow common wisdom here based on that bias! Also, a President should protect the Office of the Presidency, he or she should not establish precedents that weaken the office; accepting gifts of humongous monetary value would then justify future Presidents doing the same a President sanctioning such behavior weakens the Office of the Presidency it subjects it to be unduly influenced by such gifts. Further, good leaders try to follow the same rules that rank and file in their organization have to follow; rank and file members of the U.S. government have to follow ethics rules where there is a prohibition against receiving gifts. President Trump contrary to the spin is in reality violating this ethical rule which is not displaying the quality of leadership the American people would hope their President would display!

One thing that really doesn't make too much sense to me is the taking on this controversy really worth it to President Trump I mean from the standpoint of the following this Qatar 747 is going to have to be turned into an Air Force One (Suitable for the President) plane meaning that U.S. authorities have to take this Qatat 747 and add a missile defense system too it; harden the structure of the plane so it can fly through a nuclear radiation cloud and the occupants of the plane won't be killed or severely sickened by radiation, add sophisticated communication which a President needs and add the technology that allows the plane to be refueled in the air, this will probably take the better part of two years so President Trump will have a luxurious 747 for the last two years of his term is this short period of reward worth tarnishing your reputation for integrity over, I don't think so! Today, CNN reported that the cost to do everything that will need to be done to the Qatar 747 plane to make it an Air Force One plane will be $750 million dollars, apparently the plane needs to be completely disassembled to check for listening devices and then reassembled; if Trump takes the Qatar 747 gift and pursues the modification with this price tag it will really set him up for great ridicule because he has repeatedly bragged about how he did an outstanding job in negotiating for the new Air Force One planes from Boeing how Boeing originally quoted over $5 billion for them and how he President Trump stood his ground and wouldn't go to four billion or higher and how he prevailed with the deal ending up being $3.999 billion. People will say why didn't Trump just agree to $4.75 billion for the new Air Force One planes Boeing wouldn't have gotten a fair profit out of the deal and been incentivized to fill the order quickly and Trump would probably have new Air Force One planes right now he could fly around in instead of twelve to forty year old Boeings that are not near the same quality of plane!

Tl;dr

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

STFU you are being an idiot again.

Was it Trump's idea or not? No! STFU yourself, you lying POS!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Boeing should be damned ashamed.

They have enough problems with the 737 Max, Starliner, and doors blowing off in flight!

 

[cnm]

There is no law in Qatar requiring a women to ask a “guardian” for permission to work

Funny how sources keep referencing permissions. But so what? It would make no difference to MAGA.

What’s it like for Qatari women?​

A Human Rights Watch report in 2021 found that women in Qatar are living under a system of “deep discrimination” through a system of government that means women are often dependent on men for permission to marry, travel, pursue higher education or make decisions about their own children.​

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The Qatari government rejected the accounts in the report as “inaccurate”, saying they do not truly represent the country’s “constitution laws or policies”.​

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But Rothna Begum, women’s rights researcher, told The Guardian that: “Women are often asked to have permission from a male guardian even if it’s not written in the regulations. So, the government told us that women don’t need male permission to work, yet in many government jobs HR [human resources departments] were saying: ‘Show us a letter from a man.’​

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“There are no anti-discrimination laws in Qatar, no agency you can go to if you want to complain. There are no functioning women’s rights organisations who can monitor how women are treated or hold the government to account.”​

What can and can’t women do in Qatar?

Gulf State’s record on women’s rights is under scrutiny in the run-up to the 2022 Fifa World Cup

theweek.com

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[Winco]

It wasn't Trump's idea, dumbass! Your TDS is active, again!

Hey tory, use your math skills and tell us the following:

1). How much will this free gift cost to make it POTUS ready to fly?
2). How many months will it take to make this plane POTUS ready?

This is a BAD Idea, and Congress will hopefully do the correct thing and reject this "free gift"

Dear Lord.

 

[Winco]

Very verbose OP. And wrong.

There is objectively nothing wrong with the President accepting a gift from a nation for our nation.

JFC you moron.

The 'free gift' needs MILLIONS of dollars of upgrades to make it POTUS ready.
Do you not understand this?

 

[westwall]

Be honest. Would you say the same thing if a Demorat accepted a 400 million dollar jet from a country that the government says supports terrorism?

Yes

 

[Winco]

Yes

Can you answer these questions?

1). How much will this free gift cost to make it POTUS ready to fly?
2). How many months will it take to make this plane POTUS ready?

 

[MarathonMike]

Jim, he's a criminal, a convicted felon, this is what criminals do.

You goldfish swallowed the bait again. LOL It's like every damn day and you STILL don't get that you are being played.