Those of you who oppose Trumps solution to the Iran problem post your solutions here

[Lisa558]

There’s a ton of Jewish hate amongst Republicans.

You just don’t hear about it because you ignore any media that doesn’t fit your world view.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/miami-republicans-university-rocked-by-report-racist-group-chat-2026-03-06/

Nope. It’s from the left by a wide margin.

 

[Dorian Mode]

I’m subject to extreme hatred for being a Jew, and 90% of it comes from the Left. It ain’t Republicans screaming “Death to Jews!” and setting up “No Jew Zones” on college campuses, and it ain’t Republicans’ kids beating up Jewish kids at my local high school.

You are responding to one of the biggest trolls here, so don't expect much discussion. I have an idea: Every time some intolerant, hateful, exclusive, cookie cutter leftist screams "Death To The Jews!" we reply with "Death To The Transgenders!" Let's see how they like it. We can also scream "Death To the Gays!" My guess is their hypocrisy will never be understood and they will immediately call us bigoted and then go into a rage and prove, once again, and over and over again, that it is the left that are at the root of the social decay in this country.

 

[Hafar1014]

You are responding to one of the biggest trolls here, so don't expect much discussion. I have an idea: Every time some intolerant, hateful, exclusive, cookie cutter leftist screams "Death To The Jews!" we reply with "Death To The Transgenders!" Let's see how they like it. We can also scream "Death To the Gays!" My guess is their hypocrisy will never be understood and they will immediately call us bigoted and then go into a rage and prove, once again, and over and over again, that it is the left that are at the root of the social decay in this country.

Ridicule them this is the best response

 

[Marener]

Nope. It’s from the left by a wide margin.

And you whine that I’m impossible to debate. Here you just repeat yourself without any substantiation.

There’s an ongoing debate about what is considered antisemitic. You specifically take that farther than I think is defensible. You’ve labeled me antisemitic before, but all I ever have done is disagree with certain policies by the current Israeli government.

Anyone who threatens or harasses anyone who is Jewish deserves condemnation and punishment.

But you can’t use that as a bludgeon to suppress free speech.

You really shouldn’t ignore the very real, very different, very old school antisemitism in your own party. The link I posted is not an isolated incident.

Harvard had to suspend a conservative newspaper after it showed their ideological affiliation to Hitler. I’m not joking.

Racial Slurs and Nazi Symbols: Inside the Complaint That Shut Down The Harvard Salient | News | The Harvard Crimson

Screenshots and message logs obtained by The Crimson appear to show Salient leaders casually using racial slurs, defending extremist rhetoric, and dismissing internal concerns — conversations that later became central to the board’s decision to suspend the magazine.

www.thecrimson.com

Again, you never heard of this because you’re siloed into one ideological worldview and everything else is kept away from you.

 

[Dorian Mode]

Ridicule them this is the best response

I agree, and often do, but they have no shame. It's not very effective. Another approach is to catch them being assholes and fake as press on nails and say something that definitely triggers them. Hopefully they stay triggered while at work and it gets them fired. I understand that when Trump was triumphantly brought back to save the country, it caused a lot of employers to understand that wokeness is dead and a lot of radical neo-leftists got purged from the workplace. Let's keep it up!

 

[Couchpotato]

The principle pretext for Bush’s war — that Saddam’s Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction that it could use to attack the United States — proved false.

Trump's pretext, without evidence, is that an attack upon the U.S. by Iran was imminent.

66% of Americans in a February 2003 Pew Research poll favored Bush's war against Iraq.

By November 2011, 75% approved of Obama's decision to withdraw all combat troops from Iraq.

Most Americans are recognizing Trump's lie much faster.

Most Americans Disapprove of War With Iran, Polls Show​

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Libya, Syria, Yemen, Somalia....

That anyone thinks they are different in a meaningful way with regards to starting wars is laughable.

You just don't mind being lied to by some politicians and take umbrage with others.

 

[Marener]

You are responding to one of the biggest trolls here, so don't expect much discussion. I have an idea: Every time some intolerant, hateful, exclusive, cookie cutter leftist screams "Death To The Jews!" we reply with "Death To The Transgenders!" Let's see how they like it. We can also scream "Death To the Gays!" My guess is their hypocrisy will never be understood and they will immediately call us bigoted and then go into a rage and prove, once again, and over and over again, that it is the left that are at the root of the social decay in this country.

I wish you guys would use the term trolling correctly. I'm providing a counter argument (with links to substantiate too!). That's not trolling.

Want to hear hypocrisy?

People have no problem openly discussing wiping Gaza and Palestine off the map. On the other hand, people wanting to end Israel are (rightfully) attacked.

 

[schmidlap]

Libya, Syria, Yemen, Somalia....

That anyone thinks they are different in a meaningful way with regards to starting wars is laughable.

You just don't mind being lied to by some politicians and take umbrage with others.

What evidence is there that Iran was about to attack the U.S. or even had the capacity to do so, Trump's pretext for his unpopular, Cheneyesque regime-change gambit?

 

[Lisa558]

And you whine that I’m impossible to debate. Here you just repeat yourself without any substantiation.

There’s an ongoing debate about what is considered antisemitic. You specifically take that farther than I think is defensible. You’ve labeled me antisemitic before, but all I ever have done is disagree with certain policies by the current Israeli government.

Anyone who threatens or harasses anyone who is Jewish deserves condemnation and punishment.

But you can’t use that as a bludgeon to suppress free speech.

You really shouldn’t ignore the very real, very different, very old school antisemitism in your own party. The link I posted is not an isolated incident.

Harvard had to suspend a conservative newspaper after it showed their ideological affiliation to Hitler. I’m not joking.

Racial Slurs and Nazi Symbols: Inside the Complaint That Shut Down The Harvard Salient | News | The Harvard Crimson

Screenshots and message logs obtained by The Crimson appear to show Salient leaders casually using racial slurs, defending extremist rhetoric, and dismissing internal concerns — conversations that later became central to the board’s decision to suspend the magazine.

www.thecrimson.com

Again, you never heard of this because you’re siloed into one ideological worldview and everything else is kept away from you.

So?! I never said that there was NO antisemitism on the right.

I’m saying that the vast majority of it is from the Left - massive anti-Jew protests, assaults, “No Jew Zones,” school bullying, etc., etc.

And what’s worse is that the antisemitism is being enabled by officials on the Left. The metal barriers for the “No Jews zones” at UCLA were paid for by the administration.

And, as we’ve seen from the negative reaction by the leftists to Trump freeing MILLIONS of oppressed Iranians from the Supreme Islamic Terrorist, all the calls against Israel to “free Palestine” were driven by antisemitism.

The irony of the whole thing is that some of the Left’s worst antisemites are the ones who protest the loudest against bigotry…..toward blacks and Muslims, that is.

 

[JohnDB]

This perfectly explains the lack of critical thinking skills and WHY so many parrot party lines and cannot intelligently parse out phoney news from accurate reporting on either side of the aisle.

Could this war have been avoided?

Unlikely. Iran has been determined and unwavering in its goal of destroying both Israel and the USA Using whatever means possible.

 

[Marener]

So?! I never said that there was NO antisemitism on the right.

I’m saying that the vast majority of it is from the Left - massive anti-Jew protests, assaults, “No Jew Zones,” school bullying, etc., etc.

And what’s worse is that the antisemitism is being enabled by officials on the Left. The metal barriers for the “No Jews zones” at UCLA were paid for by the administration.

And, as we’ve seen from the negative reaction by the leftists to Trump freeing MILLIONS of oppressed Iranians from the Supreme Islamic Terrorist, all the calls against Israel to “free Palestine” were driven by antisemitism.

The irony of the whole thing is that some of the Left’s worst antisemites are the ones who protest the loudest against bigotry…..toward blacks and Muslims, that is.

Massive protests against Israeli foreign policy is not the same as anti-semitism. Wanting to "free Palestine" is not anti-semitic.

Creating a "new Jew zone" certainly would be, but here you are quoting things that happened a few years ago now.

I find the whole idea that you can somehow fairly quantify this a bit absurd, especially considering you're creating your opinion based on media reports that are highly selective and prone to attention bias.

 

[Lisa558]

Massive protests against Israeli foreign policy is not the same as anti-semitism. Wanting to "free Palestine" is not anti-semitic.

Creating a "new Jew zone" certainly would be, but here you are quoting things that happened a few years ago now.

I find the whole idea that you can somehow fairly quantify this a bit absurd, especially considering you're creating your opinion based on media reports that are highly selective and prone to attention bias.

The fact that there were massive protests to “free Palestine” ( and calls to kills Jews, and beating us Jews) and nothing about “freeing Iranians,” or freeing Nigerian Christians, or freeing Rohingya Muslims is because it was all driven by antisemitism.

 

[Marener]

The fact that there were massive protests to “free Palestine” ( and calls to kills Jews, and beating us Jews) and nothing about “freeing Iranians,” or freeing Nigerian Christians, or freeing Rohingya Muslims is because it was all driven by antisemitism.

The difference being that we are funding Israel and have influence with Israel.

Protesting Iran or Nigeria doesn't really have any chance to have any effect on the policies by those governments.

Don't just jump to conclusions because it's emotionally satisfying.

 

[Lisa558]

The difference being that we are funding Israel and have influence with Israel.

Protesting Iran or Nigeria doesn't really have any chance to have any effect on the policies by those governments.

Don't just jump to conclusions because it's emotionally satisfying.

Then why did all those leftists shout “Death to Jews”, blocking Jewish kids from getting to class, setting up No Jew Zones, beating up Jewish kids at the leftist high school, etc., etc., if the hate for Israel was unrelated to hate for Jews? The leftists didn’t even try to hide it! They’re BRAGGING about it.

There is NO denying that the anti-Israel hate was primarily driven by antisemitism.

And your attempt to excuse it with “funding” is ridiculous. The U.S. gives money to Nigeria and Myanmar, too. Yet no concern for the victims of hate there….only the Jew country.

 

[PeterPilot]

Hafar1014

What is "the Iran problem" you mention? Is it too much to define terms?

Iran has not attacked us, nor has it attacked our Constitution, yet Israel has done both.

 

[Couchpotato]

What evidence is there that Iran was about to attack the U.S. or even had the capacity to do so, Trump's pretext for his unpopular, Cheneyesque regime-change gambit?

I never said there was in fact I have in this thread multiple times said that attacking iran was ******* stupid. That’s not the issue we’re talking about though. Is it stop trying to deflect from the fact that Obama was no different than Bush or Trump in the starting war category because he wasn’t he started just as many if not more for the same bullshit reasons that they did.

 

[Hafar1014]

I never said there was in fact I have in this thread multiple times said that attacking iran was ******* stupid. That’s not the issue we’re talking about though. Is it stop trying to deflect from the fact that Obama was no different than Bush or Trump in the starting war category because he wasn’t he started just as many if not more for the same bullshit reasons that they did.

Iran openly planned to attack Israel and America with nukes. It would have been very easy because a nuke can be made small enough to fit in a suitcase or backpack. Then smuggle them in. Try and stop that

 

[Marener]

Then why did all those leftists shout “Death to Jews”, blocking Jewish kids from getting to class, setting up No Jew Zones, beating up Jewish kids at the leftist high school, etc., etc., if the hate for Israel was unrelated to hate for Jews? The leftists didn’t even try to hide it! They’re BRAGGING about it.

There is NO denying that the anti-Israel hate was primarily driven by antisemitism.

And your attempt to excuse it with “funding” is ridiculous. The U.S. gives money to Nigeria and Myanmar, too. Yet no concern for the victims of hate there….only the Jew country.

Some people definitely hate Jews and expressed that hatred. A lot of people just disagree with Israeli policy. You are trying to conflate those two but they're not the same.

I think it's ridiculous to compare our funding of the Israeli military to providing humanitarian relief to people and supporting pro-Democracy movements in Myanmar.

 

[Couchpotato]

Iran openly planned to attack Israel and America with nukes. It would have been very easy because a nuke can be made small enough to fit in a suitcase or backpack. Then smuggle them in. Try and stop that

Except for the fact that I ran, didn’t have nuclear weapons in our own intelligence assessment was that they hadn’t even decided that they wanted to have nuclear weapons. The enrichment was just a negotiating tool. Benjamin Netanyahu has been saying that I ran is right around the corner from getting nuclear weapons since the 90s. When are you gonna clue in to the fact that that ************ is lying?

 

[Couchpotato]

Iran openly planned to attack Israel and America with nukes. It would have been very easy because a nuke can be made small enough to fit in a suitcase or backpack. Then smuggle them in. Try and stop that

Also, I thought we sat back there nuclear program with the 12 day war what happened to that?