This woman should have the charges dropped for not having a concealed carry permit.

[2aguy]

A permit to carry a gun is nothing more than a chance for gun grabbers to punish a law abiding gun owner who fails to jump through the paper work hoops created for no other reason than to jam them up...

This should not be a crime.

Woman sentenced to 100 days for no gun license after killing woman

The gun was legally purchased, but Adler did not have a concealed carry license.

 

[westwall]

A permit to carry a gun is nothing more than a chance for gun grabbers to punish a law abiding gun owner who fails to jump through the paper work hoops created for no other reason than to jam them up...

This should not be a crime.

Woman sentenced to 100 days for no gun license after killing woman

The gun was legally purchased, but Adler did not have a concealed carry license.

A terrible loss for the family but from their comments in Court it appears they knew that their daughter was in a very, very bad way as far as her addictions go. Hunter S. Thompson said it best, when your friend is under the influence of drugs, they stop being your friend, and instead become the drug.

Sad, very sad.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

A permit to carry a gun is nothing more than a chance for gun grabbers to punish a law abiding gun owner who fails to jump through the paper work hoops created for no other reason than to jam them up...

This should not be a crime.

Woman sentenced to 100 days for no gun license after killing woman

The gun was legally purchased, but Adler did not have a concealed carry license.

This is an issue for people who are under a direct/on-going threat. If they're in a jurisdiction that doesn't allow them to carry or if their issuing authority won't issue a permit, they are forced to choose between risking their lives by complying with the laws and not protecting themselves with a weapon they cannot legally carry or risking their freedom by carrying it unlawfully. Both options suck in my opinion and if they end up dead that's cold comfort for their loved ones that the agency that denied the permit now has proof that the threat alledged by the victim did in fact exist and the agency was wrong to deny the permit.

The state of Washington has a stalking protection order that can be obtained but in the case of the young lady after whom the law is named, even if she had wanted to arm herself against her stalker, as a school teacher, she couldn't legally carry in the place where she was most vulnerable. A lot of stalkers know this and they plan there attacks in locales where their victims have legally been disarmed.

The Jennifer Paulson Stalking Protection Order Act

RCW 7.92.010
Intent—Finding.
Stalking is a crime that affects 3.4 million people over the age of eighteen each year in the United States. Almost half of those victims experience at least one unwanted contact per week. Twenty-nine percent of stalking victims fear that the stalking will never stop. The prevalence of anxiety, insomnia, social dysfunction, and severe depression is much higher among stalking victims than the general population. Three in four stalking victims are stalked by someone they know, and at least thirty percent of stalking victims are stalked by a current or former intimate partner. For many of those victims, the domestic violence protection order is a tool they can access to help them stay safer. For those who have not had an intimate relationship with the person stalking them, there are few remedies for them under the law.

Victims who do not report the crime still desire safety and protection from future interactions with the offender. Some cases in which the stalking is reported are not prosecuted. In these situations, the victim should be able to seek a civil remedy requiring that the offender stay away from the victim. It is the intent of the legislature that the stalking protection order created by this chapter be a remedy for victims who do not qualify for a domestic violence order of protection.

Moreover, it is the intent of the legislature that courts specifically distinguish stalking conduct covered by the stalking protection order from common acts of harassment or nuisance covered by antiharassment orders. Law enforcement agencies need to be able to rely on orders that distinguish stalking conduct from common acts of harassment or nuisance. Victims of stalking conduct deserve the same protection and access to the court system as victims of domestic violence and sexual assault, and this protection can be accomplished without infringing on constitutionally protected speech or activity. The legislature finds that preventing the issuance of conflicting orders is in the interest of both petitioners and respondents.​

 

[pinqy]

A permit to carry a gun is nothing more than a chance for gun grabbers to punish a law abiding gun owner who fails to jump through the paper work hoops created for no other reason than to jam them up...

This should not be a crime.

Woman sentenced to 100 days for no gun license after killing woman

The gun was legally purchased, but Adler did not have a concealed carry license.

Umm if the law requires a concealed carry license then a gun owner who carries concealed without a license is not law abiding, by definition. And she did not need a license to carry a weapon openly. And Ohio is a will-issue state.

 

[Vastator]

“Requiring” a permit is both dangerous, and unconstitutional. It infringes on a persons right to bear arms.

 

[pinqy]

“Requiring” a permit is both dangerous, and unconstitutional. It infringes on a persons right to bear arms.

Your opinion is completely irrelevant until/unless the Supreme Court agrees with you. Otherwise, it’s still the law and must be obeyed or face the consequences

 

[Vastator]

“Requiring” a permit is both dangerous, and unconstitutional. It infringes on a persons right to bear arms.

Your opinion is completely irrelevant until/unless the Supreme Court agrees with you. Otherwise, it’s still the law and must be obeyed or face the consequences

And it’s exactly that thinking that will ensure the continuation of the erosion of American freedoms...

 

[Confounding]

when your friend is under the influence of drugs, they stop being your friend, and instead become the drug.

Seventeen year old me lost $1,000 learning this lesson the hard way.

 

[Gracie]

Gigi is a man. A man with a knife, even wearing a dress...is nothing to take lightly.

 

[BlackFlag]

A permit to carry a gun is nothing more than a chance for gun grabbers to punish a law abiding gun owner who fails to jump through the paper work hoops created for no other reason than to jam them up...

This should not be a crime.

Woman sentenced to 100 days for no gun license after killing woman

The gun was legally purchased, but Adler did not have a concealed carry license.

The alcoholic/drug addict should never be allowed to own a gun again. She should be grateful it's just 100 days.

 

[2aguy]

A permit to carry a gun is nothing more than a chance for gun grabbers to punish a law abiding gun owner who fails to jump through the paper work hoops created for no other reason than to jam them up...

This should not be a crime.

Woman sentenced to 100 days for no gun license after killing woman

The gun was legally purchased, but Adler did not have a concealed carry license.

Umm if the law requires a concealed carry license then a gun owner who carries concealed without a license is not law abiding, by definition. And she did not need a license to carry a weapon openly. And Ohio is a will-issue state.

The permit is unConstitutional.... it requires a fee which, like the democrat party Poll taxes on voting, is a fee on a Right, and if it requires training, it is the same as the democrat party Literacy tests used to keep Blacks from voting.....

And the Blacks sitting at the lunch counters were criminals too...right?

 

[pinqy]

“Requiring” a permit is both dangerous, and unconstitutional. It infringes on a persons right to bear arms.

Your opinion is completely irrelevant until/unless the Supreme Court agrees with you. Otherwise, it’s still the law and must be obeyed or face the consequences

And it’s exactly that thinking that will ensure the continuation of the erosion of American freedoms...

The thinking of rule of law? Is it really your claim that no law that anyone believes is unconstitutional should be enforced?

Unjust laws should be repealed and the courts should rule unconstitutional laws should be ruled unconstitutional. A coherent system of laws ensures our freedoms Disregard for laws destroys them

 

[Vastator]

“Requiring” a permit is both dangerous, and unconstitutional. It infringes on a persons right to bear arms.

Your opinion is completely irrelevant until/unless the Supreme Court agrees with you. Otherwise, it’s still the law and must be obeyed or face the consequences

And it’s exactly that thinking that will ensure the continuation of the erosion of American freedoms...

The thinking of rule of law? Is it really your claim that no law that anyone believes is unconstitutional should be enforced?

Unjust laws should be repealed and the courts should rule unconstitutional laws should be ruled unconstitutional. A coherent system of laws ensures our freedoms Disregard for laws destroys them

Indeed every unconstitutional law should be challenged. At the root of it, every unconstitutional law is null, and void but for the willingness of the people to go along with it; and the power of those who would enforce it to do so. For all the sophistication of our society, and culture, might still makes right. The constitution aimed to put and end to that type of rule. Yet here we are today, in a time when people clamor for it. Except of course; when someone else’s might, makes them wrong, or worse...

 

[pinqy]

A permit to carry a gun is nothing more than a chance for gun grabbers to punish a law abiding gun owner who fails to jump through the paper work hoops created for no other reason than to jam them up...

This should not be a crime.

Woman sentenced to 100 days for no gun license after killing woman

The gun was legally purchased, but Adler did not have a concealed carry license.

Umm if the law requires a concealed carry license then a gun owner who carries concealed without a license is not law abiding, by definition. And she did not need a license to carry a weapon openly. And Ohio is a will-issue state.

The permit is unConstitutional.... it requires a fee which, like the democrat party Poll taxes on voting, is a fee on a Right,

If you did not pay the tax, you could not vote. This woman could still legally keep and bear arms without a concealed carry permit. So not the same.

and if it requires training, it is the same as the democrat party Literacy tests used to keep Blacks from voting.....

Are you claiming the training classes are rigged like the literacy tests were? And again, in Ohio, there is no requirement for training for open carry.

There is a constitutional right to keep and bear arms. Open carry fulfills that.

And the Blacks sitting at the lunch counters were criminals too...right?

Yes. And they practiced civil disobedience to protest the laws and went to jail and went through the courts and congress to change the laws.

 

[2aguy]

A permit to carry a gun is nothing more than a chance for gun grabbers to punish a law abiding gun owner who fails to jump through the paper work hoops created for no other reason than to jam them up...

This should not be a crime.

Woman sentenced to 100 days for no gun license after killing woman

The gun was legally purchased, but Adler did not have a concealed carry license.

Umm if the law requires a concealed carry license then a gun owner who carries concealed without a license is not law abiding, by definition. And she did not need a license to carry a weapon openly. And Ohio is a will-issue state.

The permit is unConstitutional.... it requires a fee which, like the democrat party Poll taxes on voting, is a fee on a Right,

If you did not pay the tax, you could not vote. This woman could still legally keep and bear arms without a concealed carry permit. So not the same.

and if it requires training, it is the same as the democrat party Literacy tests used to keep Blacks from voting.....

Are you claiming the training classes are rigged like the literacy tests were? And again, in Ohio, there is no requirement for training for open carry.

There is a constitutional right to keep and bear arms. Open carry fulfills that.

And the Blacks sitting at the lunch counters were criminals too...right?

Yes. And they practiced civil disobedience to protest the laws and went to jail and went through the courts and congress to change the laws.

Yes....and it was found that any tax on voting was unConstitutional....so the democrats were forced to stop doing it.

And in Europe, they use training requirements to keep the poor from owning guns...only the rich and well connected have the time and money to pass the tests to own the limited hunting weapons they are allowed.....to hunt on their estates.

 

[pinqy]

A permit to carry a gun is nothing more than a chance for gun grabbers to punish a law abiding gun owner who fails to jump through the paper work hoops created for no other reason than to jam them up...

This should not be a crime.

Woman sentenced to 100 days for no gun license after killing woman

The gun was legally purchased, but Adler did not have a concealed carry license.

Umm if the law requires a concealed carry license then a gun owner who carries concealed without a license is not law abiding, by definition. And she did not need a license to carry a weapon openly. And Ohio is a will-issue state.

The permit is unConstitutional.... it requires a fee which, like the democrat party Poll taxes on voting, is a fee on a Right,

If you did not pay the tax, you could not vote. This woman could still legally keep and bear arms without a concealed carry permit. So not the same.

and if it requires training, it is the same as the democrat party Literacy tests used to keep Blacks from voting.....

Are you claiming the training classes are rigged like the literacy tests were? And again, in Ohio, there is no requirement for training for open carry.

There is a constitutional right to keep and bear arms. Open carry fulfills that.

And the Blacks sitting at the lunch counters were criminals too...right?

Yes. And they practiced civil disobedience to protest the laws and went to jail and went through the courts and congress to change the laws.

Yes....and it was found that any tax on voting was unConstitutional....so the democrats were forced to stop doing it.

And in Europe, they use training requirements to keep the poor from owning guns...only the rich and well connected have the time and money to pass the tests to own the limited hunting weapons they are allowed.....to hunt on their estates.

You completely missed my point.
Does Ohio require a fee or training to own or open carry? Yes or no?
The answer is no.
So she could still exercise her 2nd amendment right without any fee or training.

 

[2aguy]

A permit to carry a gun is nothing more than a chance for gun grabbers to punish a law abiding gun owner who fails to jump through the paper work hoops created for no other reason than to jam them up...

This should not be a crime.

Woman sentenced to 100 days for no gun license after killing woman

The gun was legally purchased, but Adler did not have a concealed carry license.

Umm if the law requires a concealed carry license then a gun owner who carries concealed without a license is not law abiding, by definition. And she did not need a license to carry a weapon openly. And Ohio is a will-issue state.

The permit is unConstitutional.... it requires a fee which, like the democrat party Poll taxes on voting, is a fee on a Right,

If you did not pay the tax, you could not vote. This woman could still legally keep and bear arms without a concealed carry permit. So not the same.

and if it requires training, it is the same as the democrat party Literacy tests used to keep Blacks from voting.....

Are you claiming the training classes are rigged like the literacy tests were? And again, in Ohio, there is no requirement for training for open carry.

There is a constitutional right to keep and bear arms. Open carry fulfills that.

And the Blacks sitting at the lunch counters were criminals too...right?

Yes. And they practiced civil disobedience to protest the laws and went to jail and went through the courts and congress to change the laws.

Yes....and it was found that any tax on voting was unConstitutional....so the democrats were forced to stop doing it.

And in Europe, they use training requirements to keep the poor from owning guns...only the rich and well connected have the time and money to pass the tests to own the limited hunting weapons they are allowed.....to hunt on their estates.

You completely missed my point.
Does Ohio require a fee or training to own or open carry? Yes or no?
The answer is no.
So she could still exercise her 2nd amendment right without any fee or training.

Sorry...... any fee for to carry concealed or open is unConstitutional....

 

[pinqy]

Umm if the law requires a concealed carry license then a gun owner who carries concealed without a license is not law abiding, by definition. And she did not need a license to carry a weapon openly. And Ohio is a will-issue state.

The permit is unConstitutional.... it requires a fee which, like the democrat party Poll taxes on voting, is a fee on a Right,

If you did not pay the tax, you could not vote. This woman could still legally keep and bear arms without a concealed carry permit. So not the same.

and if it requires training, it is the same as the democrat party Literacy tests used to keep Blacks from voting.....

Are you claiming the training classes are rigged like the literacy tests were? And again, in Ohio, there is no requirement for training for open carry.

There is a constitutional right to keep and bear arms. Open carry fulfills that.

And the Blacks sitting at the lunch counters were criminals too...right?

Yes. And they practiced civil disobedience to protest the laws and went to jail and went through the courts and congress to change the laws.

Yes....and it was found that any tax on voting was unConstitutional....so the democrats were forced to stop doing it.

And in Europe, they use training requirements to keep the poor from owning guns...only the rich and well connected have the time and money to pass the tests to own the limited hunting weapons they are allowed.....to hunt on their estates.

You completely missed my point.
Does Ohio require a fee or training to own or open carry? Yes or no?
The answer is no.
So she could still exercise her 2nd amendment right without any fee or training.

Sorry...... any fee for to carry concealed or open is unConstitutional....

That opinion is not supported by any precedent.

 

[jillian]

“Requiring” a permit is both dangerous, and unconstitutional. It infringes on a persons right to bear arms.

Who are little NRA shills to decide that?

 

[jillian]

The permit is unConstitutional.... it requires a fee which, like the democrat party Poll taxes on voting, is a fee on a Right,

If you did not pay the tax, you could not vote. This woman could still legally keep and bear arms without a concealed carry permit. So not the same.

and if it requires training, it is the same as the democrat party Literacy tests used to keep Blacks from voting.....

Are you claiming the training classes are rigged like the literacy tests were? And again, in Ohio, there is no requirement for training for open carry.

There is a constitutional right to keep and bear arms. Open carry fulfills that.

And the Blacks sitting at the lunch counters were criminals too...right?

Yes. And they practiced civil disobedience to protest the laws and went to jail and went through the courts and congress to change the laws.

Yes....and it was found that any tax on voting was unConstitutional....so the democrats were forced to stop doing it.

And in Europe, they use training requirements to keep the poor from owning guns...only the rich and well connected have the time and money to pass the tests to own the limited hunting weapons they are allowed.....to hunt on their estates.

You completely missed my point.
Does Ohio require a fee or training to own or open carry? Yes or no?
The answer is no.
So she could still exercise her 2nd amendment right without any fee or training.

Sorry...... any fee for to carry concealed or open is unConstitutional....

That opinion is not supported by any precedent.

True. But he’s an NRA shill so he doesn’t know abt better. Or if he does that is it what he’s supposed to post.