This Will Drive the Deep State Nuts: Trump Preparing for a Major House-Cleaning

[BULLDOG]

Trump says lots of things. His supporters eats it up but he rarely follows through. He has this down pat.

False.

Try again

So did the check finally get here from Mexico?

 

[BULLDOG]

Trump's paranoia is matching that of Kim in Korea. I wonder when he might start executing family members because he thinks they aren't loyal enough, like Kim did.

If you really think he would start using AA guns to mow down his political opponents, then your TDS is terminal.

i don't expect it to happen today, but he has made it clear he admires the behavior of murdering third world dictators.

Lol, that you expect it at all and continue to go with the whole "Trump likes dictators" based on him dealing with them via normal run of the mill diplomacy just shows you have gone off the deep end.

Change your name to Chihuahua, because that's more like your personality, a shaking little dog that pees when confronted.

Trump doesn't know what run of the mill diplomacy is. Here's a hint, the fawning he does to dictators is not it.

Excellent!

Cause Trump doesn't fawn.

ROFL!

Sure he does.

 

[rightwinger]

They were implemented with the assumption that the civil servants were at a level where they do not decide on policy, only implement it. What has happened is political level jobs have been transferred over to civil service jobs, and this is clearly an abuse of the civil service system.

When in conflict, they should resign. If they can't do the job, then they should get out.

That is up to the independent inspectors to determine. Trump is exploiting Civil Service law and bullying workers into being afraid to report on him.

He is firing intelligence officials who do not agree with his conspiracy theories
He threatens weather service employees who rely on scientific weather predictions and contradict his personal weather predictions
He threatens scientists who report there is global warming
He fires State Department employees for following existing international laws

Links to these threats and firings, please![/QUOTE]

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[MeBelle]

Know what's funny? Most of the supposedly "disloyal Deep State never-Trumpers" that Dotard is supposedly cleaning house on are not "Obama holdovers". They were appointed by HIM.

PS: Grennell is an incompetent know-nothing POS.

Links to your claims please.

 

[BULLDOG]

Trump's paranoia is matching that of Kim in Korea. I wonder when he might start executing family members because he thinks they aren't loyal enough, like Kim did.

What an odd comment when you consider the recent suicides murders deaths of people who are a threat to democrats.

NCTLB No conspiracy theory left behind.

 

[MeBelle]

Trump says lots of things. His supporters eats it up but he rarely follows through. He has this down pat.

False.

Try again

So did the check finally get here from Mexico?

What does your troll 'capture' question have to do with the OP?

Thx

 

[MeBelle]

They were implemented with the assumption that the civil servants were at a level where they do not decide on policy, only implement it. What has happened is political level jobs have been transferred over to civil service jobs, and this is clearly an abuse of the civil service system.

When in conflict, they should resign. If they can't do the job, then they should get out.

That is up to the independent inspectors to determine. Trump is exploiting Civil Service law and bullying workers into being afraid to report on him.

He is firing intelligence officials who do not agree with his conspiracy theories
He threatens weather service employees who rely on scientific weather predictions and contradict his personal weather predictions
He threatens scientists who report there is global warming
He fires State Department employees for following existing international laws

Links to these threats and firings, please!

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Your butt hurt link is a failure.

Specifics, not #HateOrangeMan threads.

thx

 

[MeBelle]

If you really think he would start using AA guns to mow down his political opponents, then your TDS is terminal.

i don't expect it to happen today, but he has made it clear he admires the behavior of murdering third world dictators.

Lol, that you expect it at all and continue to go with the whole "Trump likes dictators" based on him dealing with them via normal run of the mill diplomacy just shows you have gone off the deep end.

Change your name to Chihuahua, because that's more like your personality, a shaking little dog that pees when confronted.

Trump doesn't know what run of the mill diplomacy is. Here's a hint, the fawning he does to dictators is not it.

Excellent!

Cause Trump doesn't fawn.

ROFL!

Sure he does.

Sure, he doesn't!

 

[Nosmo King]

Loyalty over competence. Sycophants over expertise. Truth to power is dead. Apathy is alive and well among Trumpians.

 

[MeBelle]

Trump has purged the Intelligence community and the State Department

America is weaker for it

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Meanwhile you never made a peep or complained when Obama nearly destroyed our economy, military with his purges. Where were you then? Indeed you were praising him.

Obama's Military Coup Purges 197 Officers In Five Years ...
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/197-military-officers-purged-by-obam
Obama's Military Coup Purges 197 Officers In Five Years ... to our officer corps since President Obama took office is viewed in many quarters as unprecedented, baffling and even harmful to our ...

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Military readiness was undermined by Obama experiments ...
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/23/...
Jul 23, 2017 · They destroyed unit integrity, cohesiveness and the “will to win.” Clearly, under President Obama’s plan to fundamentally change America, the degradation of our military forces was a key ..

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Obama's Plan to Destroy America Has Failed Miserably - The ...
https://prospect.org/power/obama-s-plan-destroy-america-failed-miserably
Nov 07, 2016 · Barack Obama will be president for only two more months, and any judgment of his presidency will have to account for all he failed to accomplish. Consider this partial list of things Obama was supposed to do but never did: Destroy America's image and influence in the world; Dismantle our military…

197 in FIVE years?
In a military force of two million?

You have yourself quite a controversy there

True!

MSM 'news' should be compared to real WH press releases, etc.

 

[MeBelle]

Loyalty over competence. Sycophants over expertise. Truth to power is dead. Apathy is alive and well among Trumpians.

So, according to your post, what does that make you?

#HateThePresident
#HateTrump
#HateOldWhiteRichPoliticians

or just...

#Hater?

 

[BULLDOG]

Trump says lots of things. His supporters eats it up but he rarely follows through. He has this down pat.

False.

Try again

So did the check finally get here from Mexico?

What does your troll 'capture' question have to do with the OP?

Thx

Some idiot said trump actually followed through on his claims. Mexico paying for that silly fence is an example of him not following through on his promise.

 

[rightwinger]

They were implemented with the assumption that the civil servants were at a level where they do not decide on policy, only implement it. What has happened is political level jobs have been transferred over to civil service jobs, and this is clearly an abuse of the civil service system.

When in conflict, they should resign. If they can't do the job, then they should get out.

That is up to the independent inspectors to determine. Trump is exploiting Civil Service law and bullying workers into being afraid to report on him.

He is firing intelligence officials who do not agree with his conspiracy theories
He threatens weather service employees who rely on scientific weather predictions and contradict his personal weather predictions
He threatens scientists who report there is global warming
He fires State Department employees for following existing international laws

Links to these threats and firings, please!

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Your butt hurt link is a failure.

Specifics, not #HateOrangeMan threads.

thx[/QUOTE]
You need to do a better job keeping up on current events

 

[rightwinger]

Trump has purged the Intelligence community and the State Department

America is weaker for it

~~~~~~
Meanwhile you never made a peep or complained when Obama nearly destroyed our economy, military with his purges. Where were you then? Indeed you were praising him.

Obama's Military Coup Purges 197 Officers In Five Years ...
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/197-military-officers-purged-by-obam
Obama's Military Coup Purges 197 Officers In Five Years ... to our officer corps since President Obama took office is viewed in many quarters as unprecedented, baffling and even harmful to our ...

************​

Military readiness was undermined by Obama experiments ...
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/23/...
Jul 23, 2017 · They destroyed unit integrity, cohesiveness and the “will to win.” Clearly, under President Obama’s plan to fundamentally change America, the degradation of our military forces was a key ..

************.​

Obama's Plan to Destroy America Has Failed Miserably - The ...
https://prospect.org/power/obama-s-plan-destroy-america-failed-miserably
Nov 07, 2016 · Barack Obama will be president for only two more months, and any judgment of his presidency will have to account for all he failed to accomplish. Consider this partial list of things Obama was supposed to do but never did: Destroy America's image and influence in the world; Dismantle our military…

197 in FIVE years?
In a military force of two million?

You have yourself quite a controversy there

True!

MSM 'news' should be compared to real WH press releases, etc.

Now that is fucking funny!

Now, which one is fake news?

 

[Zorro!]

WE’RE ALWAYS BEING TOLD THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR NONPARTISAN FEDERAL BUREAUCRACY: NC Democratic Congressional Candidate Polls People on Firing Federal Workers Who Support Trump.

This idiot polled on what people thought about having supporters of President Trump fired from their federal jobs or ousted from the military, supposedly in the interests of “protect[ing] the nation”:

Chilling.

On his campaign website, Judson describes himself as “a retired Army officer and a combat veteran.”



Mark Judson For Congress

✔@Judson4Congress
Trying to get a feel for where people are on this:

If it is proven that there was NO imminent attack planned against the US and Pompeo was simply lying about the reason for killing Soleimani, should Pompeo be turned over to Iran to stand trial?

85%Yes - Pompeo Murdered.
15%No - He was our enemy.
110 votes•Final results
8:21 AM - Jan 10, 2020



Mark Judson For Congress

✔@Judson4Congress
Without Fox News, there is no Dubya Presidency, there is no invasion of Iraq, there is no Donald Trump Presidency, there is no targeting of the Iranian General, this plane doesn’t get shot down.

When will “we the people”hold Fox News accountable for all the evil they have done? https://twitter.com/TheLeadCNN/status/1215767201917042688 …

In response to this:

He tweeted:


Mark Judson For Congress

✔@Judson4Congress
Yes Ma'am - for the first time in American history, there will be a Candidate on the Presidential Ballot for whom a vote cast is 1) legal, but 2) should (theoretically) render the voter guilty of Crimes Against America.

Thank you for this Republicans! https://twitter.com/gallee50/status/1230497056982274048 …

 

[martybegan]

If civil servants are going to start taking sides

As soon as government "workers" were allowed to unionize, that happened.

The point is that we don't seem to have anyone interested in "validating" them.... as "unbiased" or simply "doing a good job." Trump at least seems interested. The prior three Presidents were not at all....

I agree. either you get civil service protections, or a union, not both.

 

[martybegan]

All the leaks about what the President is doing with regards to the various agencies, resisting implementing the policies of the President.

State Department bureaucrat caught plotting ‘deep state’ resistance: Project Veritas

A single bureaucrat no one ever heard of? To be honest, Trump should thank some of his underlings for not doing what he demands. It's kept him in office and out of scandal since he's been known to order them to do things that aren't particularly legal. Just think if they went through with Trump's demand to fire Mueller.

So unelected bureaucrats should have the ability to override the elected person placed in the office by the people?

Fuck no.

If what they are being told to do is unconstitutional, then yes.

If they think they are being asked to do unconstitutional things they need to resign and report.

That's just plain stupid. No they should not have to resign because an administration craps on the Constitution.

In your opinion he is "crapping on the Constitution". The fact is you use that as a screen for simple political disagreements, much like the deep staters.

 

[martybegan]

Then until adjudicated it isn't illegal.

So you want people to do things they think are illegal but haven't been specifically told are illegal?

I love the conversations we find ourselves in as a result of this president. The questions we are having to ask ourselves are just astounding.

If they think they are illegal they should quit. If they just disagree politically they should shut up and do their fucking job.

Don't blame the President, blame career civil servants who think they outright the President.

They don’t have to quit. That is why we created a Civil Service. To protect the workforce from political pressure and retaliation.

Trump seems to be the only President who thinks the workforce must be loyal to his needs

When they start taking political sides, it defeats the purpose of the laws.

They are supposed to be cogs in the machine, nothing more, implementing political policy decided by political appointees, appointed by the only Constitutional Authority in the branch, i.e. the President.

If civil servants are going to start taking sides, we need to go back to the spoils system.

A scientist providing findings that do not support the presidents policy that global warming is a myth is not taking sides.

A weatherman properly reporting the path of a hurricane is not taking sides

Your spin on it is taking sides.

And anyone who runs to science that also claims a man can turn into an actual woman is fucking comical.

 

[martybegan]

They are not being asked to violate the law, they are often being asked to implement policy they don't like. Then they pretend that it is against the law to justify their refusal to do their fucking jobs.

That is up to the independent inspectors to determine. Trump is exploiting Civil Service law and bullying workers into being afraid to report on him.

He is firing intelligence officials who do not agree with his conspiracy theories
He threatens weather service employees who rely on scientific weather predictions and contradict his personal weather predictions
He threatens scientists who report there is global warming
He fires State Department employees for following existing international laws

He sets the policy, not unelected wonks. If they don't like it they can resign. if they can find actual unconstitutional actions they can report it.

And when the policy says you should tell people in Alabama that a hurricane is headed their way when you know scientific evidence says it is not?

When the policy says scientists are not allowed to report evidence of a global warming threat?

When the policy says you must cover for a president who is offering military aid in return for personal favors?

The first item is not policy.

The 2nd is a political matter, and the president decides the politics.

The 3rd item has been found to be meritless and over.

A person doing his job is not partisan

Just because a meteorologist reports the truth is not breaking policy. Trump demanded that they support his misstatement
Scientific study and conclusions is not political.
Trumps phone call was not found to acceptable.....only not impeachable.

More spin just to show off your TDS.

 

[pknopp]

A single bureaucrat no one ever heard of? To be honest, Trump should thank some of his underlings for not doing what he demands. It's kept him in office and out of scandal since he's been known to order them to do things that aren't particularly legal. Just think if they went through with Trump's demand to fire Mueller.

So unelected bureaucrats should have the ability to override the elected person placed in the office by the people?

Fuck no.

If what they are being told to do is unconstitutional, then yes.

If they think they are being asked to do unconstitutional things they need to resign and report.

That's just plain stupid. No they should not have to resign because an administration craps on the Constitution.

In your opinion he is "crapping on the Constitution". The fact is you use that as a screen for simple political disagreements, much like the deep staters.

"He"? Are you feeling guilty? I specifically and intentionally made my statement a general statement accusing no one specifically.