This Will Drive the Deep State Nuts: Trump Preparing for a Major House-Cleaning

[martybegan]

He at least went public with his issues, he didn't sit there and try to gum up the works.

Which is what I said the employees should do. They should say NO and push back not simply quit.

Then they should be fired when found to be nothing more than playing politics.

Cogs, that's all they are supposed to be.

Whistleblowers are supposed to be protected.

No president was as hard on whistleblowers than the Obamapuppet. The whistleblowers were not passing on gossip nor did they have an agenda. Benghazi whistleblowers were demoted and had to sign NDAs. John Haney "See Something Say Nothing" author was demoted, lost his security clearance when he brought attention to the fact that information on muslim migrants with ties to extremist groups was scrubbed thus denying other 3 letter agencies the intel. All former Barrypuppet and Clinton loyalists should have been kicked to the curb. Their marxist ideals have no place in this admin. Why would they even want to stay unless it was to undermine their boss?

That is true about Obama and I did not support or vote for him. That Hillary was the same is why I did not vote for her. Wrong is wrong is wrong. I do not understand why this is such a hard concept for many.

I made NO statement on this administration. I do not believe I have even ever spoke on what you are going on about. If an employee refuses to carry out a lawful program they can be dealt with. If it's not lawful they should push back and we should support them. Period.

Again, the issue is people are claiming lawful orders to be illegal because it does not suit their politics.

 

[pknopp]

Which is what I said the employees should do. They should say NO and push back not simply quit.

Then they should be fired when found to be nothing more than playing politics.

Cogs, that's all they are supposed to be.

Whistleblowers are supposed to be protected.

No president was as hard on whistleblowers than the Obamapuppet. The whistleblowers were not passing on gossip nor did they have an agenda. Benghazi whistleblowers were demoted and had to sign NDAs. John Haney "See Something Say Nothing" author was demoted, lost his security clearance when he brought attention to the fact that information on muslim migrants with ties to extremist groups was scrubbed thus denying other 3 letter agencies the intel. All former Barrypuppet and Clinton loyalists should have been kicked to the curb. Their marxist ideals have no place in this admin. Why would they even want to stay unless it was to undermine their boss?

That is true about Obama and I did not support or vote for him. That Hillary was the same is why I did not vote for her. Wrong is wrong is wrong. I do not understand why this is such a hard concept for many.

I made NO statement on this administration. I do not believe I have even ever spoke on what you are going on about. If an employee refuses to carry out a lawful program they can be dealt with. If it's not lawful they should push back and we should support them. Period.

Again, the issue is people are claiming lawful orders to be illegal because it does not suit their politics.

If they are then whatever the current administration is they can deal with that.

 

[martybegan]

Then they should be fired when found to be nothing more than playing politics.

Cogs, that's all they are supposed to be.

Whistleblowers are supposed to be protected.

No president was as hard on whistleblowers than the Obamapuppet. The whistleblowers were not passing on gossip nor did they have an agenda. Benghazi whistleblowers were demoted and had to sign NDAs. John Haney "See Something Say Nothing" author was demoted, lost his security clearance when he brought attention to the fact that information on muslim migrants with ties to extremist groups was scrubbed thus denying other 3 letter agencies the intel. All former Barrypuppet and Clinton loyalists should have been kicked to the curb. Their marxist ideals have no place in this admin. Why would they even want to stay unless it was to undermine their boss?

That is true about Obama and I did not support or vote for him. That Hillary was the same is why I did not vote for her. Wrong is wrong is wrong. I do not understand why this is such a hard concept for many.

I made NO statement on this administration. I do not believe I have even ever spoke on what you are going on about. If an employee refuses to carry out a lawful program they can be dealt with. If it's not lawful they should push back and we should support them. Period.

Again, the issue is people are claiming lawful orders to be illegal because it does not suit their politics.

If they are then whatever the current administration is they can deal with that.

They deal with it by firing their asses.

 

[rightwinger]

They don’t have to quit. That is why we created a Civil Service. To protect the workforce from political pressure and retaliation.

Trump seems to be the only President who thinks the workforce must be loyal to his needs

When they start taking political sides, it defeats the purpose of the laws.

They are supposed to be cogs in the machine, nothing more, implementing political policy decided by political appointees, appointed by the only Constitutional Authority in the branch, i.e. the President.

If civil servants are going to start taking sides, we need to go back to the spoils system.

A scientist providing findings that do not support the presidents policy that global warming is a myth is not taking sides.

A weatherman properly reporting the path of a hurricane is not taking sides

Your spin on it is taking sides.

And anyone who runs to science that also claims a man can turn into an actual woman is fucking comical.

Science has found that sexuality is more complex than male/female

Bullshit science has found that. Biology says otherwise. At best you can turn a man into a cheap copy of a woman and vice versa.

It is psychological not biological

 

[pknopp]

Whistleblowers are supposed to be protected.

No president was as hard on whistleblowers than the Obamapuppet. The whistleblowers were not passing on gossip nor did they have an agenda. Benghazi whistleblowers were demoted and had to sign NDAs. John Haney "See Something Say Nothing" author was demoted, lost his security clearance when he brought attention to the fact that information on muslim migrants with ties to extremist groups was scrubbed thus denying other 3 letter agencies the intel. All former Barrypuppet and Clinton loyalists should have been kicked to the curb. Their marxist ideals have no place in this admin. Why would they even want to stay unless it was to undermine their boss?

That is true about Obama and I did not support or vote for him. That Hillary was the same is why I did not vote for her. Wrong is wrong is wrong. I do not understand why this is such a hard concept for many.

I made NO statement on this administration. I do not believe I have even ever spoke on what you are going on about. If an employee refuses to carry out a lawful program they can be dealt with. If it's not lawful they should push back and we should support them. Period.

Again, the issue is people are claiming lawful orders to be illegal because it does not suit their politics.

If they are then whatever the current administration is they can deal with that.

They deal with it by firing their asses.

If legal then so be it.

 

[martybegan]

When they start taking political sides, it defeats the purpose of the laws.

They are supposed to be cogs in the machine, nothing more, implementing political policy decided by political appointees, appointed by the only Constitutional Authority in the branch, i.e. the President.

If civil servants are going to start taking sides, we need to go back to the spoils system.

A scientist providing findings that do not support the presidents policy that global warming is a myth is not taking sides.

A weatherman properly reporting the path of a hurricane is not taking sides

Your spin on it is taking sides.

And anyone who runs to science that also claims a man can turn into an actual woman is fucking comical.

Science has found that sexuality is more complex than male/female

Bullshit science has found that. Biology says otherwise. At best you can turn a man into a cheap copy of a woman and vice versa.

It is psychological not biological

But you want us to pretend it's biological.

Reassignment should be the LAST resort, Trans activists want it to be the FIRST resort.

 

[dannyboys]

Trump has purged the Intelligence community and the State Department

America is weaker for it

If the personnel in question would stop thinking they can DICTATE policy instead of just IMPLEMENTING it, there wouldn't be a problem.

Presidents are elected to "dictate policy"! Ask BONOBO.
Presidential candidates stand in front of the voters and say: "These are MY policies and if you elect me I promise you I WILL put them in place anyway I can".
BONOBO ended up having to resort to dozens of EOs to implement his policies.

 

[martybegan]

Trump has purged the Intelligence community and the State Department

America is weaker for it

If the personnel in question would stop thinking they can DICTATE policy instead of just IMPLEMENTING it, there wouldn't be a problem.

Presidents are elected to "dictate policy"! Ask BONOBO.
Presidential candidates stand in front of the voters and say: "These are MY policies and if you elect me I promise you I WILL put them in place anyway I can".
BONOBO ended up having to resort to dozens of EOs to implement his policies.

Obama had a willing and complacent bureaucracy to implement his policies. because they mostly agreed with those policies.

Trump doesn't have that, not for any high and noble reasons, but because most of the bureaucrats just disagree with him politically.

 

[Nosmo King]

Loyalty over competence. Sycophants over expertise. Truth to power is dead. Apathy is alive and well among Trumpians.

So, according to your post, what does that make you?

#HateThePresident
#HateTrump
#HateOldWhiteRichPoliticians

or just...

#Hater?

I hate him because he hates competence. He hates science. He hates facts. He hates trust. So, yeah, I hate him, but with good reason.

 

[rightwinger]

its the same subject, you just don't like where the discussion is going.

Cogs, not whistleblowers, should resign if they can't implement the policies chosen by the ELECTED President.

As long as it's not Unconstitutional. Right back where we started.

What many of you are claiming as "Unconstitutional" is clearly not. You throw the word around without backing it up.

I claimed nothing but what I said. You have a guilty complex.

There's that whole trying to be slick again.

The problem with "unamed sources" that the New York Times and Washington Post use for articles are always proven to be false. I avoid lamestream media as a source as they are not trustworthy, have an agenda because the CIA still influences all of it. Operation Mockingbird never ceased even after the Church Committee hearings.

The New York Times and Washington Post are the most distinguished news organizations in the world

 

[rightwinger]

Trump has purged the Intelligence community and the State Department

America is weaker for it

If the personnel in question would stop thinking they can DICTATE policy instead of just IMPLEMENTING it, there wouldn't be a problem.

Presidents are elected to "dictate policy"! Ask BONOBO.
Presidential candidates stand in front of the voters and say: "These are MY policies and if you elect me I promise you I WILL put them in place anyway I can".
BONOBO ended up having to resort to dozens of EOs to implement his policies.

Obama had a willing and complacent bureaucracy to implement his policies. because they mostly agreed with those policies.

Trump doesn't have that, not for any high and noble reasons, but because most of the bureaucrats just disagree with him politically.

Obama followed the law and did not mix politics with science.

Trump makes his own rules

 

[martybegan]

Trump has purged the Intelligence community and the State Department

America is weaker for it

If the personnel in question would stop thinking they can DICTATE policy instead of just IMPLEMENTING it, there wouldn't be a problem.

Presidents are elected to "dictate policy"! Ask BONOBO.
Presidential candidates stand in front of the voters and say: "These are MY policies and if you elect me I promise you I WILL put them in place anyway I can".
BONOBO ended up having to resort to dozens of EOs to implement his policies.

Obama had a willing and complacent bureaucracy to implement his policies. because they mostly agreed with those policies.

Trump doesn't have that, not for any high and noble reasons, but because most of the bureaucrats just disagree with him politically.

Obama followed the law and did not mix politics with science.

Trump makes his own rules

AGW is nothing BUT mixing politics with science.

 

[rightwinger]

Trump has purged the Intelligence community and the State Department

America is weaker for it

If the personnel in question would stop thinking they can DICTATE policy instead of just IMPLEMENTING it, there wouldn't be a problem.

Presidents are elected to "dictate policy"! Ask BONOBO.
Presidential candidates stand in front of the voters and say: "These are MY policies and if you elect me I promise you I WILL put them in place anyway I can".
BONOBO ended up having to resort to dozens of EOs to implement his policies.

Obama had a willing and complacent bureaucracy to implement his policies. because they mostly agreed with those policies.

Trump doesn't have that, not for any high and noble reasons, but because most of the bureaucrats just disagree with him politically.

Obama followed the law and did not mix politics with science.

Trump makes his own rules

AGW is nothing BUT mixing politics with science.

How can that be?

It affects the whole world. It is only the Republicans making it political.
Are you saying the whole world is conspiring against Republicans?

 

[martybegan]

If the personnel in question would stop thinking they can DICTATE policy instead of just IMPLEMENTING it, there wouldn't be a problem.

Presidents are elected to "dictate policy"! Ask BONOBO.
Presidential candidates stand in front of the voters and say: "These are MY policies and if you elect me I promise you I WILL put them in place anyway I can".
BONOBO ended up having to resort to dozens of EOs to implement his policies.

Obama had a willing and complacent bureaucracy to implement his policies. because they mostly agreed with those policies.

Trump doesn't have that, not for any high and noble reasons, but because most of the bureaucrats just disagree with him politically.

Obama followed the law and did not mix politics with science.

Trump makes his own rules

AGW is nothing BUT mixing politics with science.

How can that be?

It affects the whole world. It is only the Republicans making it political.
Are you saying the whole world is conspiring against Republicans?

I'm saying its nothing but a front for Watermelons to get control of people.

The only solution seems to be more government, less freedom, and that makes it's supporters political with a capital P.

 

[rightwinger]

Presidents are elected to "dictate policy"! Ask BONOBO.
Presidential candidates stand in front of the voters and say: "These are MY policies and if you elect me I promise you I WILL put them in place anyway I can".
BONOBO ended up having to resort to dozens of EOs to implement his policies.

Obama had a willing and complacent bureaucracy to implement his policies. because they mostly agreed with those policies.

Trump doesn't have that, not for any high and noble reasons, but because most of the bureaucrats just disagree with him politically.

Obama followed the law and did not mix politics with science.

Trump makes his own rules

AGW is nothing BUT mixing politics with science.

How can that be?

It affects the whole world. It is only the Republicans making it political.
Are you saying the whole world is conspiring against Republicans?

I'm saying its nothing but a front for Watermelons to get control of people.

The only solution seems to be more government, less freedom, and that makes it's supporters political with a capital P.

Your wild global warming is a conspiracy would make sense if it was only in the US

How does the whole world conspire to fake climate data?

 

[martybegan]

Obama had a willing and complacent bureaucracy to implement his policies. because they mostly agreed with those policies.

Trump doesn't have that, not for any high and noble reasons, but because most of the bureaucrats just disagree with him politically.

Obama followed the law and did not mix politics with science.

Trump makes his own rules

AGW is nothing BUT mixing politics with science.

How can that be?

It affects the whole world. It is only the Republicans making it political.
Are you saying the whole world is conspiring against Republicans?

I'm saying its nothing but a front for Watermelons to get control of people.

The only solution seems to be more government, less freedom, and that makes it's supporters political with a capital P.

Your wild global warming is a conspiracy would make sense if it was only in the US

How does the whole world conspire to fake climate data?

The data is created by models, and the issue isn't faking data, it's seeing things and treating them as fact when they are actually just projections.

Of course for people like you all model results lead to socialism as the only hope for our salvation.

Hence the term Watermelon, green on the outside, Red on the inside.

 

[Dale Smith]

As long as it's not Unconstitutional. Right back where we started.

What many of you are claiming as "Unconstitutional" is clearly not. You throw the word around without backing it up.

I claimed nothing but what I said. You have a guilty complex.

There's that whole trying to be slick again.

The problem with "unamed sources" that the New York Times and Washington Post use for articles are always proven to be false. I avoid lamestream media as a source as they are not trustworthy, have an agenda because the CIA still influences all of it. Operation Mockingbird never ceased even after the Church Committee hearings.

The New York Times and Washington Post are the most distinguished news organizations in the world

 

[rightwinger]

Obama followed the law and did not mix politics with science.

Trump makes his own rules

AGW is nothing BUT mixing politics with science.

How can that be?

It affects the whole world. It is only the Republicans making it political.
Are you saying the whole world is conspiring against Republicans?

I'm saying its nothing but a front for Watermelons to get control of people.

The only solution seems to be more government, less freedom, and that makes it's supporters political with a capital P.

Your wild global warming is a conspiracy would make sense if it was only in the US

How does the whole world conspire to fake climate data?

The data is created by models, and the issue isn't faking data, it's seeing things and treating them as fact when they are actually just projections.

Of course for people like you all model results lead to socialism as the only hope for our salvation.

Hence the term Watermelon, green on the outside, Red on the inside.

Models make projections of future trends. They also show past results
They consistently show a growing change in climate

Only conservatives deny it

Do you really believe scientists around the globe are conspiring just to piss off conservatives

 

[martybegan]

AGW is nothing BUT mixing politics with science.

How can that be?

It affects the whole world. It is only the Republicans making it political.
Are you saying the whole world is conspiring against Republicans?

I'm saying its nothing but a front for Watermelons to get control of people.

The only solution seems to be more government, less freedom, and that makes it's supporters political with a capital P.

Your wild global warming is a conspiracy would make sense if it was only in the US

How does the whole world conspire to fake climate data?

The data is created by models, and the issue isn't faking data, it's seeing things and treating them as fact when they are actually just projections.

Of course for people like you all model results lead to socialism as the only hope for our salvation.

Hence the term Watermelon, green on the outside, Red on the inside.

Models make projections of future trends. They also show past results
They consistently show a growing change in climate

Only conservatives deny it

Do you really believe scientists around the globe are conspiring just to piss off conservatives

I believe socialists use it as an excuse to get their form of government imposed.