This Will Drive the Deep State Nuts: Trump Preparing for a Major House-Cleaning

[martybegan]

Trump has purged the Intelligence community and the State Department

America is weaker for it

If the personnel in question would stop thinking they can DICTATE policy instead of just IMPLEMENTING it, there wouldn't be a problem.

What does that mean?

The civil service is designed to implement the policies of the incumbent president, naturally verified and funded by Congress.

What we have now are civil servants who think their opinions and views outweigh those of the President, mostly because they don't like him.

Civil Servants swear to uphold the Constitution not to serve the President

Then they can resign if they think what the President is doing is unconstitutional, and report him.

They work for the Executive Branch, and all policy in that Branch flows from the President.

 

[colfax_m]

Trump has purged the Intelligence community and the State Department

America is weaker for it

If the personnel in question would stop thinking they can DICTATE policy instead of just IMPLEMENTING it, there wouldn't be a problem.

What does that mean?

The civil service is designed to implement the policies of the incumbent president, naturally verified and funded by Congress.

What we have now are civil servants who think their opinions and views outweigh those of the President, mostly because they don't like him.

Civil Servants swear to uphold the Constitution not to serve the President

Then they can resign if they think what the President is doing is unconstitutional, and report him.

They work for the Executive Branch, and all policy in that Branch flows from the President.

Well, not exactly. The president can not establish every single policy of his executive branch. That's just literally impossible, it's far too much for any single person.

Some policy is established by the president. Not all, however.

 

[martybegan]

Trump has purged the Intelligence community and the State Department

America is weaker for it

If the personnel in question would stop thinking they can DICTATE policy instead of just IMPLEMENTING it, there wouldn't be a problem.

What does that mean?

The civil service is designed to implement the policies of the incumbent president, naturally verified and funded by Congress.

What we have now are civil servants who think their opinions and views outweigh those of the President, mostly because they don't like him.

Such as?

All the leaks about what the President is doing with regards to the various agencies, resisting implementing the policies of the President.

State Department bureaucrat caught plotting ‘deep state’ resistance: Project Veritas

 

[martybegan]

If the personnel in question would stop thinking they can DICTATE policy instead of just IMPLEMENTING it, there wouldn't be a problem.

What does that mean?

The civil service is designed to implement the policies of the incumbent president, naturally verified and funded by Congress.

What we have now are civil servants who think their opinions and views outweigh those of the President, mostly because they don't like him.

Civil Servants swear to uphold the Constitution not to serve the President

Then they can resign if they think what the President is doing is unconstitutional, and report him.

They work for the Executive Branch, and all policy in that Branch flows from the President.

Well, not exactly. The president can not establish every single policy of his executive branch. That's just literally impossible, it's far too much for any single person.

Some policy is established by the president. Not all, however.

All policy at the executive level comes from the President, as he is the only elected member of the Branch with actual powers and responsibilities mandated by the Constitution.

 

[rightwinger]

Trump has purged the Intelligence community and the State Department

America is weaker for it

If the personnel in question would stop thinking they can DICTATE policy instead of just IMPLEMENTING it, there wouldn't be a problem.

What does that mean?

The civil service is designed to implement the policies of the incumbent president, naturally verified and funded by Congress.

What we have now are civil servants who think their opinions and views outweigh those of the President, mostly because they don't like him.

Civil Servants swear to uphold the Constitution not to serve the President

Then they can resign if they think what the President is doing is unconstitutional, and report him.

They work for the Executive Branch, and all policy in that Branch flows from the President.

I spent 33 years as a Civil Servant. The Civil Service laws laws were made to protect you from political influence or retribution.

Policy flows from the President, but there are also laws enacted by Congress. When in conflict, you are required to follow the law.

 

[colfax_m]

Trump has purged the Intelligence community and the State Department

America is weaker for it

If the personnel in question would stop thinking they can DICTATE policy instead of just IMPLEMENTING it, there wouldn't be a problem.

What does that mean?

The civil service is designed to implement the policies of the incumbent president, naturally verified and funded by Congress.

What we have now are civil servants who think their opinions and views outweigh those of the President, mostly because they don't like him.

Such as?

All the leaks about what the President is doing with regards to the various agencies, resisting implementing the policies of the President.

State Department bureaucrat caught plotting ‘deep state’ resistance: Project Veritas

A single bureaucrat no one ever heard of? To be honest, Trump should thank some of his underlings for not doing what he demands. It's kept him in office and out of scandal since he's been known to order them to do things that aren't particularly legal. Just think if they went through with Trump's demand to fire Mueller.

 

[martybegan]

If the personnel in question would stop thinking they can DICTATE policy instead of just IMPLEMENTING it, there wouldn't be a problem.

What does that mean?

The civil service is designed to implement the policies of the incumbent president, naturally verified and funded by Congress.

What we have now are civil servants who think their opinions and views outweigh those of the President, mostly because they don't like him.

Civil Servants swear to uphold the Constitution not to serve the President

Then they can resign if they think what the President is doing is unconstitutional, and report him.

They work for the Executive Branch, and all policy in that Branch flows from the President.

I spent 33 years as a Civil Servant. The Civil Service laws laws were made to protect you from political influence or retribution.

Policy flows from the President, but there are also laws enacted by Congress. When in conflict, you are required to follow the law.

They were implemented with the assumption that the civil servants were at a level where they do not decide on policy, only implement it. What has happened is political level jobs have been transferred over to civil service jobs, and this is clearly an abuse of the civil service system.

When in conflict, they should resign. If they can't do the job, then they should get out.

 

[martybegan]

If the personnel in question would stop thinking they can DICTATE policy instead of just IMPLEMENTING it, there wouldn't be a problem.

What does that mean?

The civil service is designed to implement the policies of the incumbent president, naturally verified and funded by Congress.

What we have now are civil servants who think their opinions and views outweigh those of the President, mostly because they don't like him.

Such as?

All the leaks about what the President is doing with regards to the various agencies, resisting implementing the policies of the President.

State Department bureaucrat caught plotting ‘deep state’ resistance: Project Veritas

A single bureaucrat no one ever heard of? To be honest, Trump should thank some of his underlings for not doing what he demands. It's kept him in office and out of scandal since he's been known to order them to do things that aren't particularly legal. Just think if they went through with Trump's demand to fire Mueller.

So unelected bureaucrats should have the ability to override the elected person placed in the office by the people?

Fuck no.

 

[Indeependent]

Trump has purged the Intelligence community and the State Department

America is weaker for it

You mean "Liberal America" is weaker for it...right, Winger?

No, The UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

Because of Trumps paranoia and insistence that those in government lie for him he has destroyed the State Department, CIA and FBI

We know you’re sucking up to these agencies in case you want to go back part-time.

 

[colfax_m]

What does that mean?

The civil service is designed to implement the policies of the incumbent president, naturally verified and funded by Congress.

What we have now are civil servants who think their opinions and views outweigh those of the President, mostly because they don't like him.

Such as?

All the leaks about what the President is doing with regards to the various agencies, resisting implementing the policies of the President.

State Department bureaucrat caught plotting ‘deep state’ resistance: Project Veritas

A single bureaucrat no one ever heard of? To be honest, Trump should thank some of his underlings for not doing what he demands. It's kept him in office and out of scandal since he's been known to order them to do things that aren't particularly legal. Just think if they went through with Trump's demand to fire Mueller.

So unelected bureaucrats should have the ability to override the elected person placed in the office by the people?

Fuck no.

No, they shouldn't override the president. They should talk to Congress when the president is giving illegal or otherwise corrupt orders, although we know how Trump supporters feel about that.

 

[martybegan]

The civil service is designed to implement the policies of the incumbent president, naturally verified and funded by Congress.

What we have now are civil servants who think their opinions and views outweigh those of the President, mostly because they don't like him.

Such as?

All the leaks about what the President is doing with regards to the various agencies, resisting implementing the policies of the President.

State Department bureaucrat caught plotting ‘deep state’ resistance: Project Veritas

A single bureaucrat no one ever heard of? To be honest, Trump should thank some of his underlings for not doing what he demands. It's kept him in office and out of scandal since he's been known to order them to do things that aren't particularly legal. Just think if they went through with Trump's demand to fire Mueller.

So unelected bureaucrats should have the ability to override the elected person placed in the office by the people?

Fuck no.

No, they shouldn't override the president. They should talk to Congress when the president is giving illegal or otherwise corrupt orders, although we know how Trump supporters feel about that.

What you claim are "illegal or corrupt" orders are pretty much just ones progressive asshats such as yourself don't like.

 

[rightwinger]

What does that mean?

The civil service is designed to implement the policies of the incumbent president, naturally verified and funded by Congress.

What we have now are civil servants who think their opinions and views outweigh those of the President, mostly because they don't like him.

Civil Servants swear to uphold the Constitution not to serve the President

Then they can resign if they think what the President is doing is unconstitutional, and report him.

They work for the Executive Branch, and all policy in that Branch flows from the President.

I spent 33 years as a Civil Servant. The Civil Service laws laws were made to protect you from political influence or retribution.

Policy flows from the President, but there are also laws enacted by Congress. When in conflict, you are required to follow the law.

They were implemented with the assumption that the civil servants were at a level where they do not decide on policy, only implement it. What has happened is political level jobs have been transferred over to civil service jobs, and this is clearly an abuse of the civil service system.

When in conflict, they should resign. If they can't do the job, then they should get out.

Civil Servants pledge to follow the law. They do not have to resign if they feel they are being asked to violate the law. That is why each agency has an Inspector General.
Trump is not firing people for not following his policy. He is firing them for reporting violations of public law.

 

[colfax_m]

Such as?

All the leaks about what the President is doing with regards to the various agencies, resisting implementing the policies of the President.

State Department bureaucrat caught plotting ‘deep state’ resistance: Project Veritas

A single bureaucrat no one ever heard of? To be honest, Trump should thank some of his underlings for not doing what he demands. It's kept him in office and out of scandal since he's been known to order them to do things that aren't particularly legal. Just think if they went through with Trump's demand to fire Mueller.

So unelected bureaucrats should have the ability to override the elected person placed in the office by the people?

Fuck no.

No, they shouldn't override the president. They should talk to Congress when the president is giving illegal or otherwise corrupt orders, although we know how Trump supporters feel about that.

What you claim are "illegal or corrupt" orders are pretty much just ones progressive asshats such as yourself don't like.

Or, sometimes they’re literally illegal.

GAO finds Trump administration broke law by withholding Ukraine aid

 

[martybegan]

The civil service is designed to implement the policies of the incumbent president, naturally verified and funded by Congress.

What we have now are civil servants who think their opinions and views outweigh those of the President, mostly because they don't like him.

Civil Servants swear to uphold the Constitution not to serve the President

Then they can resign if they think what the President is doing is unconstitutional, and report him.

They work for the Executive Branch, and all policy in that Branch flows from the President.

I spent 33 years as a Civil Servant. The Civil Service laws laws were made to protect you from political influence or retribution.

Policy flows from the President, but there are also laws enacted by Congress. When in conflict, you are required to follow the law.

They were implemented with the assumption that the civil servants were at a level where they do not decide on policy, only implement it. What has happened is political level jobs have been transferred over to civil service jobs, and this is clearly an abuse of the civil service system.

When in conflict, they should resign. If they can't do the job, then they should get out.

Civil Servants pledge to follow the law. They do not have to resign if they feel they are being asked to violate the law. That is why each agency has an Inspector General.
Trump is not firing people for not following his policy. He is firing them for reporting violations of public law.

They are not being asked to violate the law, they are often being asked to implement policy they don't like. Then they pretend that it is against the law to justify their refusal to do their fucking jobs.

 

[g5000]

DB Daily Update ^ | David Blackmon

Yesterday’s Campaign Update focused on the efforts by Acting Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Ric Grenell to identify and get rid of the bad actors remaining embeded within the Intelligence Community (IC), and the panic that is creating in the Deep State and its corrupt media hacks at the New York Times.

Today, Jonathan Swan – who is actually a pretty solid working journalist – at Axios has a report that will drive the Brennans, Comeys and Clappers of the world even crazier: It turns out that President Trump has assigned people within his body of trusted advisors to spend the last year-and-a-half compiling lists of disloyal government officials, along with names of Trump supporters who are qualified and willing to replace them.

As reported by Swan:

The Trump White House and its allies, over the past 18 months, assembled detailed lists of disloyal government officials to oust — and trusted pro-Trump people to replace them — according to more than a dozen sources familiar with the effort who spoke to Axios.

Driving the news: By the time President Trump instructed his 29-year-old former body man and new head of presidential personnel to rid his government of anti-Trump officials, he’d gathered reams of material to support his suspicions.

While Trump’s distrust has only intensified since his impeachment and acquittal, he has long been on the hunt for “bad people” inside the White House and U.S. government, and fresh “pro-Trump” options. Outside advisers have been happy to oblige. Oh, man, heads must be exploding at the Times, the Washington Post, CNN and MSNBC over this one. And can you imagine the nervous breakdowns taking place all over the offices of the CIA, FBI, DOJ and State Department?

Perhaps the best part of Swan’s piece is his concluding paragraph:

The bottom line: As the New York Times’ Peter Baker wrote on Saturday, “in some of the most critical corners of the Trump administration, officials show up for work now never entirely sure who will be there by the end of the evening — themselves included.”

Good. Great. Fantastic. This is three years overdue, a house-cleaning the President has been counseled to forego due to political factors and the interminable coup d’etat effort against him led by Rod Rosenstein, Robert Mueller, Adam Schiff and Nancy Pelosi.

Now that the idiotic impeachment scam has run its course, President Trump – according to Swan – feels liberated, free to finally rid his administration of seditious Obama/Bush/Clinton holdovers and put his own people into key positions. In every previous presidential administration in our history, this kind of house-cleaning was considered to be standard operating procedure. But due to the efforts of the Deep State and its corrupt media toadies, it has taken three long years enduring constant leaks, subversions and betrayals for this President to feel free to finally do what he was elected to do.

Man, this is going to be some fun.

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I realize he had to get many judges in who would actually support the law of the land instead of protect their cronies.

But it has been frustrating to watch and wait, although, watching the dems implode has been entertaining.....and it will go ballistic when he wins a second term!....

Are Brennan, Comey, and Clapper in jail as promised yet?

 

[martybegan]

All the leaks about what the President is doing with regards to the various agencies, resisting implementing the policies of the President.

State Department bureaucrat caught plotting ‘deep state’ resistance: Project Veritas

A single bureaucrat no one ever heard of? To be honest, Trump should thank some of his underlings for not doing what he demands. It's kept him in office and out of scandal since he's been known to order them to do things that aren't particularly legal. Just think if they went through with Trump's demand to fire Mueller.

So unelected bureaucrats should have the ability to override the elected person placed in the office by the people?

Fuck no.

No, they shouldn't override the president. They should talk to Congress when the president is giving illegal or otherwise corrupt orders, although we know how Trump supporters feel about that.

What you claim are "illegal or corrupt" orders are pretty much just ones progressive asshats such as yourself don't like.

Or, sometimes they’re literally illegal.

GAO finds Trump administration broke law by withholding Ukraine aid

From the article:

The OMB, however, pushed back against the GAO opinion, arguing that the White House office used the “apportionment authority to ensure taxpayer dollars are properly spent consistent with the President's priorities and with the law."

Acting OMB Director Russ Vought tweeted that the GAO report "comes from the same people who said we couldn’t keep National Parks open during the shutdown."

The GAO's opinion is just that, an opinion, not legally binding or conclusive in any way.

Try again.

 

[Correll]

Trump's paranoia is matching that of Kim in Korea. I wonder when he might start executing family members because he thinks they aren't loyal enough, like Kim did.

You guys openly talked about Resisting. IF you take action like that, you invite reaction. You really should have thought that through.

 

[colfax_m]

A single bureaucrat no one ever heard of? To be honest, Trump should thank some of his underlings for not doing what he demands. It's kept him in office and out of scandal since he's been known to order them to do things that aren't particularly legal. Just think if they went through with Trump's demand to fire Mueller.

So unelected bureaucrats should have the ability to override the elected person placed in the office by the people?

Fuck no.

No, they shouldn't override the president. They should talk to Congress when the president is giving illegal or otherwise corrupt orders, although we know how Trump supporters feel about that.

What you claim are "illegal or corrupt" orders are pretty much just ones progressive asshats such as yourself don't like.

Or, sometimes they’re literally illegal.

GAO finds Trump administration broke law by withholding Ukraine aid

From the article:

The OMB, however, pushed back against the GAO opinion, arguing that the White House office used the “apportionment authority to ensure taxpayer dollars are properly spent consistent with the President's priorities and with the law."

Acting OMB Director Russ Vought tweeted that the GAO report "comes from the same people who said we couldn’t keep National Parks open during the shutdown."

The GAO's opinion is just that, an opinion, not legally binding or conclusive in any way.

Try again.

So how is anyone in government supposed to know if they’re being asked to do something illegal?

 

[whitehall]

It's about time. The biggest mistake Bush made was to keep the inept a-holes appointed to the CIA and the FBI by Clinton when he had the majority in both houses. Trump ain't likely to make the same mistake this go-round. Maybe the justice dept will dust off the law concerning treason and hang some of the bastards.

 

[bodecea]

DB Daily Update ^ | David Blackmon

Yesterday’s Campaign Update focused on the efforts by Acting Director of National Intelligence (DNI) Ric Grenell to identify and get rid of the bad actors remaining embeded within the Intelligence Community (IC), and the panic that is creating in the Deep State and its corrupt media hacks at the New York Times.

Today, Jonathan Swan – who is actually a pretty solid working journalist – at Axios has a report that will drive the Brennans, Comeys and Clappers of the world even crazier: It turns out that President Trump has assigned people within his body of trusted advisors to spend the last year-and-a-half compiling lists of disloyal government officials, along with names of Trump supporters who are qualified and willing to replace them.

As reported by Swan:

The Trump White House and its allies, over the past 18 months, assembled detailed lists of disloyal government officials to oust — and trusted pro-Trump people to replace them — according to more than a dozen sources familiar with the effort who spoke to Axios.

Driving the news: By the time President Trump instructed his 29-year-old former body man and new head of presidential personnel to rid his government of anti-Trump officials, he’d gathered reams of material to support his suspicions.

While Trump’s distrust has only intensified since his impeachment and acquittal, he has long been on the hunt for “bad people” inside the White House and U.S. government, and fresh “pro-Trump” options. Outside advisers have been happy to oblige. Oh, man, heads must be exploding at the Times, the Washington Post, CNN and MSNBC over this one. And can you imagine the nervous breakdowns taking place all over the offices of the CIA, FBI, DOJ and State Department?

Perhaps the best part of Swan’s piece is his concluding paragraph:

The bottom line: As the New York Times’ Peter Baker wrote on Saturday, “in some of the most critical corners of the Trump administration, officials show up for work now never entirely sure who will be there by the end of the evening — themselves included.”

Good. Great. Fantastic. This is three years overdue, a house-cleaning the President has been counseled to forego due to political factors and the interminable coup d’etat effort against him led by Rod Rosenstein, Robert Mueller, Adam Schiff and Nancy Pelosi.

Now that the idiotic impeachment scam has run its course, President Trump – according to Swan – feels liberated, free to finally rid his administration of seditious Obama/Bush/Clinton holdovers and put his own people into key positions. In every previous presidential administration in our history, this kind of house-cleaning was considered to be standard operating procedure. But due to the efforts of the Deep State and its corrupt media toadies, it has taken three long years enduring constant leaks, subversions and betrayals for this President to feel free to finally do what he was elected to do.

Man, this is going to be some fun.

------------

I realize he had to get many judges in who would actually support the law of the land instead of protect their cronies.

But it has been frustrating to watch and wait, although, watching the dems implode has been entertaining.....and it will go ballistic when he wins a second term!....

Suuuuuuure he is.....