This Road is for Jews Only. Yes, There is Apartheid in Israel

[Coyote]

This is Zone 2 guys - posts must have some content related to the topic or IP. Just a reminder. Some posts have been removed for violations.

 

[Sally]

Now, to return to the Apartheid Statute, here are more elements of Apartheid.

From the Apartheid Convention, Article II(b):

“Deliberate imposition on a racial group or groups of living conditions calculated to cause its or their physical destruction in whole or in part”

Defining Apartheid: Israel's Record | The Electronic Intifada

From Israel’s record:

In the OPT, the article points out, "cruel methods are employed to ‘exhaust’ the communities, exploit and subjugate them, make life so unbearable that Palestinians will leave or communities be destroyed, including evidence of ethnic cleansing methods, and evidence of intention to destroy the population at least in part (i.e. genocide).”

And Israel practices strangulation of the Palestinian economy "with forced dependency upon the colonial Israeli State and Israeli economy (with no independent Palestinian economy), border controls of imports and exports, exploitation of natural resources, de-development of Palestinian industries and businesses, violation of the full range of employment/workforce rights - including through closures.”

In addition, there are Israeli policies that are designed to impoverish the Palestinians (more than 1 million Palestinians live under the poverty line) and strangulate their economy through "movement restrictions denying or hindering access to humanitarian aid and assistance, food and water, medical supplies and aid, hospitals, work and education. Concerns as to starvation in some areas; illegal control and exploitation of Palestinian natural resources (including water) and tourism. Women and children have been particularly affected by lack of access to humanitarian aid, including prevention of access to pre natal, and post natal care; and access to immunisation/health services for children.”

Israel also "conducts military attacks on civilians, including those amounting to grave breaches of the Fourth Geneva Convention (namely war crimes) and systematic gross violations of human rights and humanitarian law. Evidence of systematic ethnic cleansing methods and the intention to destroy at least in part the population (i.e. genocide). Heavy weaponry normally used in full combat warfare is being used against a Palestinian civilian population in situations where there is no military or security need (including civilians in homes, schools, workplaces, hospitals, field clinics, ambulances). A disproportionate number of women and children have been killed and injured, as have clearly-marked medical personnel, human rights defenders and journalists have also been attacked. Crimes perpetrated by Israelis against Palestinians are usually inadequately investigated or prosecuted, and there is a bias in sentencing of Palestinians. Military courts apply the ‘justice’ in the OPTs and do not comply with fair trial standards.”

There is virtual impunity for those who commit crimes, that includes a regular failure to investigate or properly and impartially investigate or prosecute those Israelis committing crimes against Palestinians, the denial of any remedy for the victims of Israeli crimes, and bias in sentencing of Palestinians. There are Israeli courts and laws applied to Israeli citizens and military orders and military courts, which fail to reach fair trial standards, applied to Palestinians inside the OPT.

There is ongoing dispossession and destruction of Palestinian land, agriculture, homes (continuous land expropriation and home demolitions to make way for Jewish only settlements and as a form of collective punishment), denial of residency rights, and erosion of sense of separate identity.

There is a war of attrition on civilians that includes restrictions on movement with besiegement and now imprisonment of communities, a deliberately induced humanitarian crisis, and military attacks against civilians.

Defining Apartheid: Israel's Record | The Electronic Intifada

Does Mrs. Sherri think that people are going to believe whatever is in the Electronic Intifada? Meanwhile, Mrs. Sherri should tell those connected with the Electronic Intifada to start worrying about your friends and their friends who are busy murdering innocent people in the Middle East. Maybe they and you think boycostts are more important than innocent people being murdered.

The Electronic Intifada (EI) is a not-for-profit, independent online publication which covers the Israeli-Palestinian conflict from a Palestinian point of view.

 

[Phoenall]

This thread is addressing Apartheid practices of a nation, not Starbucks.

I could care less about Starbucks, what they do or do not do, and do not know a thing about their history or care. I am not into the worship of businesses who sale coffee.

Does Silly Sally have anything substantive to add to the discussion of Israel's Apartheid practices that have killed 1519 children in Palestine since 2000?

People with a heart do not support child killing by Apartheid nations.

I want to thank Sherri for the laughs she gives us. Lol. She posts like she has some sort of credibility when in reality, her credibility was flushed down the toilet a long time ago hahahaha

We all know how Starbucks (founded by a Jew) got started in Seattle and spread out all over the world. Now this former member of the IDF is going down the same path and perhaps he will spread across the country like Starbucks right into Arkansas. Do you think Mrs. Sherri would lead a protest against his store if one showed up in her local mall? I betcha that the Muslims don't bother passing up Menchie's even though a Jew born in Jerusalem is the boss of the company. Say, maybe if things ever get better in Iran, Mrs. Sherri could buy a franchise and open up a Menchie's in Tehran. Being in business should surely get her out of the house.

How I Made It: Amit Kleinberger - latimes.com

How I Made It: Amit Kleinberger - latimes.com

How about you post some evidence of this apartheid inside Israel's borders then shaitan, show were the racism and brutality are.

 

[Victory67]

How about you post some evidence of this apartheid inside Israel's borders then shaitan, show were the racism and brutality are.

Israeli law in the West Bank acts in an Apartheid fashion.

One law for Jews, another law for non-Jews.

 

[Sally]

How about you post some evidence of this apartheid inside Israel's borders then shaitan, show were the racism and brutality are.

Israeli law in the West Bank acts in an Apartheid fashion.

One law for Jews, another law for non-Jews.

Naturally, Herr Weil Ich Weiss has no problems with the way Muslim places like Saudi Arabia treats the people who are living inside its borders which is actually much worse than whatever he could accuse Israel of. As long as it is his fellow Muslims who are doing this, everything is OK in his world. By the way, Herr Weil Ich Weiss, whatever happened to those college courses you were supposed to start last semester after graduating from high school last year. You were so hot about becoming a pharmacists to enable you to help those you left behind in Gaza. I really thought that was wonderful of you; but evidently with all the time you have to spend on forums, something happened to derail your plans. I certainly hope in the future that you get back on track with your plans because pharmacists can make some big bucks.

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

Silly Sally cannot deal with the content, we are discussing Apartheid Israel and Apartheid practices.

We are discussing the Apartheid Statute.

Anything to say abut the thread topic, Apartheid?

That article addresses practice after practice establishing Israel practices Apartheid.

Israel

Now, to return to the Apartheid Statute, here are more elements of Apartheid.

From the Apartheid Convention, Article II(b):

“Deliberate imposition on a racial group or groups of living conditions calculated to cause its or their physical destruction in whole or in part”

Defining Apartheid: Israel's Record | The Electronic Intifada

From Israel’s record:

In the OPT, the article points out, "cruel methods are employed to ‘exhaust’ the communities, exploit and subjugate them, make life so unbearable that Palestinians will leave or communities be destroyed, including evidence of ethnic cleansing methods, and evidence of intention to destroy the population at least in part (i.e. genocide).”

And Israel practices strangulation of the Palestinian economy "with forced dependency upon the colonial Israeli State and Israeli economy (with no independent Palestinian economy), border controls of imports and exports, exploitation of natural resources, de-development of Palestinian industries and businesses, violation of the full range of employment/workforce rights - including through closures.”

In addition, there are Israeli policies that are designed to impoverish the Palestinians (more than 1 million Palestinians live under the poverty line) and strangulate their economy through "movement restrictions denying or hindering access to humanitarian aid and assistance, food and water, medical supplies and aid, hospitals, work and education. Concerns as to starvation in some areas; illegal control and exploitation of Palestinian natural resources (including water) and tourism. Women and children have been particularly affected by lack of access to humanitarian aid, including prevention of access to pre natal, and post natal care; and access to immunisation/health services for children.”

Israel also "conducts military attacks on civilians, including those amounting to grave breaches of the Fourth Geneva Convention (namely war crimes) and systematic gross violations of human rights and humanitarian law. Evidence of systematic ethnic cleansing methods and the intention to destroy at least in part the population (i.e. genocide). Heavy weaponry normally used in full combat warfare is being used against a Palestinian civilian population in situations where there is no military or security need (including civilians in homes, schools, workplaces, hospitals, field clinics, ambulances). A disproportionate number of women and children have been killed and injured, as have clearly-marked medical personnel, human rights defenders and journalists have also been attacked. Crimes perpetrated by Israelis against Palestinians are usually inadequately investigated or prosecuted, and there is a bias in sentencing of Palestinians. Military courts apply the ‘justice’ in the OPTs and do not comply with fair trial standards.”

There is virtual impunity for those who commit crimes, that includes a regular failure to investigate or properly and impartially investigate or prosecute those Israelis committing crimes against Palestinians, the denial of any remedy for the victims of Israeli crimes, and bias in sentencing of Palestinians. There are Israeli courts and laws applied to Israeli citizens and military orders and military courts, which fail to reach fair trial standards, applied to Palestinians inside the OPT.

There is ongoing dispossession and destruction of Palestinian land, agriculture, homes (continuous land expropriation and home demolitions to make way for Jewish only settlements and as a form of collective punishment), denial of residency rights, and erosion of sense of separate identity.

There is a war of attrition on civilians that includes restrictions on movement with besiegement and now imprisonment of communities, a deliberately induced humanitarian crisis, and military attacks against civilians.

Defining Apartheid: Israel's Record | The Electronic Intifada

Does Mrs. Sherri think that people are going to believe whatever is in the Electronic Intifada? Meanwhile, Mrs. Sherri should tell those connected with the Electronic Intifada to start worrying about your friends and their friends who are busy murdering innocent people in the Middle East. Maybe they and you think boycostts are more important than innocent people being murdered.

The Electronic Intifada (EI) is a not-for-profit, independent online publication which covers the Israeli-Palestinian conflict from a Palestinian point of view.

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

I did .

Can you not read English?

I addressed the first two paragraphs of the Apartheid Convention and I addressed how Israel fits the criteria set forth.

I believe Apartheid is practiced in both the legitimate borders of Israel and the OPT,which includes the Occupied West Bank and Occupied East Jerusalem and Occupied Gaza.

But this is what is addressed in the OP, it seems to be focused primarily on the Apartheid in the OPT:

"The US Jewish Establishment’s onslaught on former President Jimmy Carter is based on him daring to tell the truth which is known to all: through its army, the government of Israel practises a brutal form of Apartheid in the territory it occupies. Its army has turned every Palestinian village and town into a fenced-in, or blocked-in, detention camp. All this is done in order to keep an eye on the population’s movements and to make its life difficult. Israel even imposes a total curfew whenever the settlers, who have illegally usurped the Palestinians’ land, celebrate their holidays or conduct their parades."

http://www.globalresearch.ca/this-road-is-for-jews-only-yes-there-is-apartheid-in-israel/5368468

This thread is addressing Apartheid practices of a nation, not Starbucks.

I could care less about Starbucks, what they do or do not do, and do not know a thing about their history or care. I am not into the worship of businesses who sale coffee.

Does Silly Sally have anything substantive to add to the discussion of Israel's Apartheid practices that have killed 1519 children in Palestine since 2000?

People with a heart do not support child killing by Apartheid nations.

We all know how Starbucks (founded by a Jew) got started in Seattle and spread out all over the world. Now this former member of the IDF is going down the same path and perhaps he will spread across the country like Starbucks right into Arkansas. Do you think Mrs. Sherri would lead a protest against his store if one showed up in her local mall? I betcha that the Muslims don't bother passing up Menchie's even though a Jew born in Jerusalem is the boss of the company. Say, maybe if things ever get better in Iran, Mrs. Sherri could buy a franchise and open up a Menchie's in Tehran. Being in business should surely get her out of the house.

How I Made It: Amit Kleinberger - latimes.com

How I Made It: Amit Kleinberger - latimes.com

How about you post some evidence of this apartheid inside Israel's borders then shaitan, show were the racism and brutality are.

 

[Sally]

I did .

Can you not read English?

I addressed the first two paragraphs of the Apartheid Convention and I addressed how Israel fits the criteria set forth.

This thread is addressing Apartheid practices of a nation, not Starbucks.

I could care less about Starbucks, what they do or do not do, and do not know a thing about their history or care. I am not into the worship of businesses who sale coffee.

Does Silly Sally have anything substantive to add to the discussion of Israel's Apartheid practices that have killed 1519 children in Palestine since 2000?

People with a heart do not support child killing by Apartheid nations.

How about you post some evidence of this apartheid inside Israel's borders then shaitan, show were the racism and brutality are.

Do you really think, Mrs. Sherri, that everyone os going to read all the nonsense that you post? It was quite easy to spot The Electronic Intifada which is a Palestinian propaganda site. You don't seem to realize that it is so tiresome reading your "apartheid" sthick time and time again that people are bored with reading all that you post about it, especially when reading about innocent people killed by your friends which is certainly more important than any boycotts in the entire world.. Meanwhile, as far as English is concerned, I wonder how many of your Iranian gang took ESL classes in the San Fernando Valley? I believe many of the high schools give these classes in the Adult Education Division. They probably came over here speaking Farsi and, voilâ, after attending ESL classes for a while, they know how to speak English.

 

[High_Gravity]

There is apartheid in Israel. Case closed.

 

[Kondor3]

Now, all you've got to do is to convince the lion's share of folk workin' the other side of the aisle - the sane side of the aisle - that you're right, and you're all set...

"...Apartheid practiced by Apartheid Israel shall remain morally wrong..."

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[Bumberclyde]

There is apartheid in Israel. Case closed.

Keeping ******* Arabs away for security reasons isn't apartheid. They brought it on themselves.

 

[aris2chat]

How about you post some evidence of this apartheid inside Israel's borders then shaitan, show were the racism and brutality are.

Israeli law in the West Bank acts in an Apartheid fashion.

One law for Jews, another law for non-Jews.

You wave prejudicial language around without a real understanding of what apartheid was and why it does not apply to the Israelis.

 

[Connery]

There are differing opinions:

"In Israel, there is no apartheid. Nothing there comes close to the definition of apartheid under the 1998 Rome Statute: “Inhumane acts ... committed in the context of an institutionalized regime of systematic oppression and domination by one racial group over any other racial group or groups and committed with the intention of maintaining that regime.” Israeli Arabs — 20 percent of Israel’s population — vote, have political parties and representatives in the Knesset and occupy positions of acclaim, including on its Supreme Court. Arab patients lie alongside Jewish patients in Israeli hospitals, receiving identical treatment.

To be sure, there is more de facto separation between Jewish and Arab populations than Israelis should accept. Much of it is chosen by the communities themselves. Some results from discrimination. But it is not apartheid, which consciously enshrines separation as an ideal. In Israel, equal rights are the law, the aspiration and the ideal; inequities are often successfully challenged in court".

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/01/opinion/israel-and-the-apartheid-slander.html

 

[Victory67]

You wave prejudicial language around without a real understanding of what apartheid was and why it does not apply to the Israelis.

Let me elaborate to help you with your confusion.

Israel has laws that apply to roads, schools, homes, buildings, land confiscation, and building permits that discriminate against Arabs in favor of Jews. This is similar to the system of Apartheid in SA.

 

[Victory67]

There are differing opinions:

"In Israel, there is no apartheid. Nothing there comes close to the definition of apartheid under the 1998 Rome Statute: “Inhumane acts ... committed in the context of an institutionalized regime of systematic oppression and domination by one racial group over any other racial group or groups and committed with the intention of maintaining that regime.” Israeli Arabs — 20 percent of Israel’s population — vote, have political parties and representatives in the Knesset and occupy positions of acclaim, including on its Supreme Court. Arab patients lie alongside Jewish patients in Israeli hospitals, receiving identical treatment.

To be sure, there is more de facto separation between Jewish and Arab populations than Israelis should accept. Much of it is chosen by the communities themselves. Some results from discrimination. But it is not apartheid, which consciously enshrines separation as an ideal. In Israel, equal rights are the law, the aspiration and the ideal; inequities are often successfully challenged in court".

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/01/opinion/israel-and-the-apartheid-slander.html

The system of seperate roads, settlements, infrastructure, demolition, confiscations, adds up to an Apartheid system in the West Bank.

As for Israel proper, Israel's Absentee Land laws have one rule for Jews and another for Arabs. They were written to hurt Jews and help Arabs.

This is Apartheid.

 

[Connery]

There are differing opinions:

"In Israel, there is no apartheid. Nothing there comes close to the definition of apartheid under the 1998 Rome Statute: “Inhumane acts ... committed in the context of an institutionalized regime of systematic oppression and domination by one racial group over any other racial group or groups and committed with the intention of maintaining that regime.” Israeli Arabs — 20 percent of Israel’s population — vote, have political parties and representatives in the Knesset and occupy positions of acclaim, including on its Supreme Court. Arab patients lie alongside Jewish patients in Israeli hospitals, receiving identical treatment.

To be sure, there is more de facto separation between Jewish and Arab populations than Israelis should accept. Much of it is chosen by the communities themselves. Some results from discrimination. But it is not apartheid, which consciously enshrines separation as an ideal. In Israel, equal rights are the law, the aspiration and the ideal; inequities are often successfully challenged in court".

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/01/opinion/israel-and-the-apartheid-slander.html

The system of seperate roads, settlements, infrastructure, demolition, confiscations, adds up to an Apartheid system in the West Bank.

As for Israel proper, Israel's Absentee Land laws have one rule for Jews and another for Arabs. They were written to hurt Jews and help Arabs.

This is Apartheid.

What about the 1998 Rome Statute referenced above?

 

[toastman]

There are differing opinions:

"In Israel, there is no apartheid. Nothing there comes close to the definition of apartheid under the 1998 Rome Statute: “Inhumane acts ... committed in the context of an institutionalized regime of systematic oppression and domination by one racial group over any other racial group or groups and committed with the intention of maintaining that regime.” Israeli Arabs — 20 percent of Israel’s population — vote, have political parties and representatives in the Knesset and occupy positions of acclaim, including on its Supreme Court. Arab patients lie alongside Jewish patients in Israeli hospitals, receiving identical treatment.

To be sure, there is more de facto separation between Jewish and Arab populations than Israelis should accept. Much of it is chosen by the communities themselves. Some results from discrimination. But it is not apartheid, which consciously enshrines separation as an ideal. In Israel, equal rights are the law, the aspiration and the ideal; inequities are often successfully challenged in court".

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/01/opinion/israel-and-the-apartheid-slander.html

The system of seperate roads, settlements, infrastructure, demolition, confiscations, adds up to an Apartheid system in the West Bank.

As for Israel proper, Israel's Absentee Land laws have one rule for Jews and another for Arabs. They were written to hurt Jews and help Arabs.

This is Apartheid.

What about the 1998 Rome Statute referenced above?

Pro palestinians have a hard time dealing with facts like the Rome Statute

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

The system of seperate roads, settlements, infrastructure, demolition, confiscations, adds up to an Apartheid system in the West Bank.

As for Israel proper, Israel's Absentee Land laws have one rule for Jews and another for Arabs. They were written to hurt Jews and help Arabs.

This is Apartheid.

What about the 1998 Rome Statute referenced above?

Pro palestinians have a hard time dealing with facts like the Rome Statute

Pro-Palestinians are a bit lacking in the brains department. They find facts hard to comprehend which is why they spew out the same idiotic lies. They are unable to read thereby preferring to just follow the crowd like sheep. They can't be bothered to take time to absorb what is really going on.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

I did .

Can you not read English?

I addressed the first two paragraphs of the Apartheid Convention and I addressed how Israel fits the criteria set forth.

I believe Apartheid is practiced in both the legitimate borders of Israel and the OPT,which includes the Occupied West Bank and Occupied East Jerusalem and Occupied Gaza.

But this is what is addressed in the OP, it seems to be focused primarily on the Apartheid in the OPT:

"The US Jewish Establishment’s onslaught on former President Jimmy Carter is based on him daring to tell the truth which is known to all: through its army, the government of Israel practises a brutal form of Apartheid in the territory it occupies. Its army has turned every Palestinian village and town into a fenced-in, or blocked-in, detention camp. All this is done in order to keep an eye on the population’s movements and to make its life difficult. Israel even imposes a total curfew whenever the settlers, who have illegally usurped the Palestinians’ land, celebrate their holidays or conduct their parades."

This Road is for Jews Only. Yes, There is Apartheid in Israel | Global Research

This thread is addressing Apartheid practices of a nation, not Starbucks.

I could care less about Starbucks, what they do or do not do, and do not know a thing about their history or care. I am not into the worship of businesses who sale coffee.

Does Silly Sally have anything substantive to add to the discussion of Israel's Apartheid practices that have killed 1519 children in Palestine since 2000?

People with a heart do not support child killing by Apartheid nations.

How about you post some evidence of this apartheid inside Israel's borders then shaitan, show were the racism and brutality are.

Having been in Israel proper and seen Arab doctors, nurses, university students, etc.; having ridden on busses with Arabs, etc., I would say there is no Apartheid there.

 

[Statistikhengst]

What I find just totally ******* amazing is how whacked out pro-palis scream "apartheid, apartheid" until their lungs are bursting and yet, Israel is the only free and functioning democracy in the region, it is the only country that provides equal rights and protections for gays (which is why lots of gay Arabs somehow find the way over the border) and other minorities, it is the only country in the region that takes in refugees from crisis areas, it gives equal voting rights to Arabs living within Eretz Israel and Arabs are in the Knesset. Hell, Arabs have actually called - from the Knesset floor - for the destruction of Eretz Yisrael, and yet, not one hauled them away in the night. People laughed at those assholes with derision, a derision they deserved, but no one hauled them away. So more for the "Israelis are Nazis" meme-bullshit.

Eretz Yisrael is so secure in itself as an entity that is is willing to air out it's "dirty laundry" for the world to see, knowing that a free democratic process is always the better way to go. What dictators see as Israeli weakness is, in reality, a great strength.

There is very likely some discrimination in Israel. But it is not apartheid.

And unlike the Palis, who love to sing songs about driving the "Devil" into the sea, Israelis do not sing songs about the genocide of Arabs and/or Muslims.

However, I am beginning to have regrets. I am regretting that Israel did not kick out every single one of those motherfuckers after winning the '67 war. Israel had the opportunity to empty out the entire "pali" population and set them over the border in Jordan (where well over 88-90% of them came from, anyway) and just be done with it. Had Israel done that, then we would not have all of these worthless shit storms that the world doesn't need.

There has never been a "Palestinian" King or Queen. There has never been a "Palestinian" currency. There was never a "Palestinian" army. This is all just smoke and mirrors. They are simply Arabs, a small portion of whom lived in the holy land when Balfour happened. End of story.