This Road is for Jews Only. Yes, There is Apartheid in Israel

[Victory67]

This is the problem with pro Palestinians like yourself, you just repeat what the anti Israel media tells you but when you're given facts lime Kondor has presented to you, you simply cannot process it because youre so used to parotting the same drivel

He didn't provide any facts. He only provided pro-Apartheid propaganda and spin.

I pointed out facts that you continue to ignore.

 

[toastman]

This is the problem with pro Palestinians like yourself, you just repeat what the anti Israel media tells you but when you're given facts lime Kondor has presented to you, you simply cannot process it because youre so used to parotting the same drivel

He didn't provide any facts. He only provided pro-Apartheid propaganda and spin.

I pointed out facts that you continue to ignore.

Bullshit. You pointed out what Israel does and Kondor explained, and did so clearly, how it is not Apartheid.
But you are free to believe what you want

 

[Hossfly]

"...According to the law that you cited, it is an act of Apartheid to prevent someone from being able to return to their land of residence...

1. their land of residence is where they are now

2. any other large-scale land transfers occurred prior to the effective date of the Convention


That is not what the Convention says.

Israeli Marriage Laws are religious rather than racial or ethnic or citizen-focused in nature, and they closely mirror Islamic Marriage Laws of the region which are also still operative.

Anything happening within Palestinian jurisdiction is the responsibility of the Palestinians.

Israeli Law applies to Israeli citizens.

The Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza are not Israeli citizens.

"...It is an act of Apartheid to limit where Palestinians can go and where they can live..."

Within the West Bank and Gaza, it is the Palestinians themselves who determine who may go where.

The Israelis have the right to decide who may travel on Israeli soil and who may not.

The Israelis have the right to decide who may reside on Israeli soil and who may not.

The United States reserves those same rights to themselves.

As does virtually every other country on the face of the planet.

It is illegal for an Israeli citizen to marry a citizen of Palestine. This is Apartheid.

Israel decides who enters the West Bank and who leaves the West Bank.

Israel routinely forbids Palestinians from returning to the West Bank and East Jerusalem.

Israel restricts who can access roads, towns, villages in the West Bank...all of which are not Israeli territory.

Israel has created a system of ethnic/national seperation throughout the West Bank, with much better services and infrastructure for Jews than for Arabs.

This is Apartheid.

Are you a lawyer by chance? What are the statutes you claim and where are they as proof.

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

The law supports the proposition that Israel is an Apartheid State.

DEAL with it, Zionist.

THERE is an international crime called Apartheid.

And nations are subject to that law by treaty or by principles of customary intl law that makes such laws binding on all nations.

"...South Africa justified their racist and discriminatory policies as neccessary for security, also. Nazi Germany justified their racist Nuremberg laws as neccessary for security, and to weaken the enemy. Just as you have. Your justifications and excuses for Apartheid are sad. They don't reflect well upon Israelis and Israelophiles. Israeli Apartheid in the West Bank is real."

Doesn't matter.

What DOES matter is The Law, and what is in force, and what is not, and when it went into effect.

And, broadly speaking, these do not support your assertions.

When you have something substantive, at law, which the International Criminal Court can sink its teeth into, be sure to wake me up.

Until then, no such thing as 'Apartheid' exists, at law, in this context, and this setting.

And all the deflection and Godwin-ian invocations in the world cannot turn that around for you.

Epic Fail.

 

[Kondor3]

This is the problem with pro Palestinians like yourself, you just repeat what the anti Israel media tells you but when you're given facts lime Kondor has presented to you, you simply cannot process it because youre so used to parotting the same drivel

He didn't provide any facts. He only provided pro-Apartheid propaganda and spin.

I pointed out facts that you continue to ignore.

I didn't provide any facts?

Au contraire... I provided the text of Article II of the Convention on Apartheid, and then proceded to serve-up the present operative interpretation of each of your accusations, utilizing Article II as the underlying context, as well as to ask you whether Israel was a signatory and thus obligated under it. If you believe that your own interpretation is operative, then we should be seeing charges filed at the ICC any day now, yes?

 

[Victory67]

Bullshit. You pointed out what Israel does and Kondor explained, and did so clearly, how it is not Apartheid. But you are free to believe what you want

Its dishonest to excuse Apartheid policies with the mask of "security" and "fighting the enemy".

Hitler did the same thing. Jim Crow did the same thing. South Africa did the same thing.

Israel has instituted a form of Apartheid and the world knows it.

Even you know it. That's why you fight it so hard.

 

[Kondor3]

The law supports the proposition that Israel is an Apartheid State.

DEAL with it, Zionist.

I already have, dearie.

If your own interpretation is operative, then where are the charges in front of the ICC?

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"...South Africa justified their racist and discriminatory policies as neccessary for security, also. Nazi Germany justified their racist Nuremberg laws as neccessary for security, and to weaken the enemy. Just as you have. Your justifications and excuses for Apartheid are sad. They don't reflect well upon Israelis and Israelophiles. Israeli Apartheid in the West Bank is real."

Doesn't matter.

What DOES matter is The Law, and what is in force, and what is not, and when it went into effect.

And, broadly speaking, these do not support your assertions.

When you have something substantive, at law, which the International Criminal Court can sink its teeth into, be sure to wake me up.

Until then, no such thing as 'Apartheid' exists, at law, in this context, and this setting.

And all the deflection and Godwin-ian invocations in the world cannot turn that around for you.

Epic Fail.

 

[toastman]

Oh look at that victory, you got a thanks from Sherri, now we KNOW your post is bullshit lol

 

[Kondor3]

Hey, Toast, is it just me, or are we dealing with a Broken Record here?

Bullshit. You pointed out what Israel does and Kondor explained, and did so clearly, how it is not Apartheid. But you are free to believe what you want

Its dishonest to excuse Apartheid policies with the mask of "security" and "fighting the enemy". Hitler did the same thing. Jim Crow did the same thing. South Africa did the same thing. Israel has instituted a form of Apartheid and the world knows it. Even you know it. That's why you fight it so hard.

 

[Victory67]

I didn't provide any facts?
Au contraire... I provided the text of Article II of the Convention on Apartheid, and then proceded to serve-up the present operative interpretation of each of your accusations, utilizing Article II as the underlying context, as well as to ask you whether Israel was a signatory and thus obligated under it. If you believe that your own interpretation is operative, then we should be seeing charges filed at the ICC any day now, yes?

Without a peace treaty Palestine will be hauling Israel before the ICC for war crimes and crimes against humanity, including the crime of Apartheid.

 

[Kondor3]

Oh look at that victory, you got a thanks from Sherri, now we KNOW your post is bullshit lol

It would help if he could objectively analyze what constitutes 'operative at law' and 'ex post facto' and stuff like that, in connection with these hairy, wild-assed claims about Apartheid, but that's a bit beyond the Job Description and Pay-Grade for a Palestinian Propaganda Ministry operative. The Palis get what they pay for...

 

[toastman]

The law supports the proposition that Israel is an Apartheid State.

DEAL with it, Zionist.

THERE is an international crime called Apartheid.

And nations are subject to that law by treaty or by principles of customary intl law that makes such laws binding on all nations.

"...South Africa justified their racist and discriminatory policies as neccessary for security, also. Nazi Germany justified their racist Nuremberg laws as neccessary for security, and to weaken the enemy. Just as you have. Your justifications and excuses for Apartheid are sad. They don't reflect well upon Israelis and Israelophiles. Israeli Apartheid in the West Bank is real."

Doesn't matter.

What DOES matter is The Law, and what is in force, and what is not, and when it went into effect.

And, broadly speaking, these do not support your assertions.

When you have something substantive, at law, which the International Criminal Court can sink its teeth into, be sure to wake me up.

Until then, no such thing as 'Apartheid' exists, at law, in this context, and this setting.

And all the deflection and Godwin-ian invocations in the world cannot turn that around for you.

Epic Fail.

Sorry, but Nazi whores like yourself have no credibility on issues related to Israel. So shut up and go parrot your crap somewhere else , Palestinian shill

 

[Kondor3]

I didn't provide any facts?
Au contraire... I provided the text of Article II of the Convention on Apartheid, and then proceded to serve-up the present operative interpretation of each of your accusations, utilizing Article II as the underlying context, as well as to ask you whether Israel was a signatory and thus obligated under it. If you believe that your own interpretation is operative, then we should be seeing charges filed at the ICC any day now, yes?

Without a peace treaty Palestine will be hauling Israel before the ICC for war crimes and crimes against humanity, including the crime of Apartheid.

Ya'll go right ahead... you'll get laughed out of court there, as well. There is very little legal substance to grab onto. Not even enough to indict, never mind convict and sentence.

 

[toastman]

Hey, Toast, is it just me, or are we dealing with a Broken Record here?

Bullshit. You pointed out what Israel does and Kondor explained, and did so clearly, how it is not Apartheid. But you are free to believe what you want

Its dishonest to excuse Apartheid policies with the mask of "security" and "fighting the enemy". Hitler did the same thing. Jim Crow did the same thing. South Africa did the same thing. Israel has instituted a form of Apartheid and the world knows it. Even you know it. That's why you fight it so hard.

Yup. An irrepairable one As well

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

Three apartheid policies enforced by Israel today

FEBRUARY 25, 2014

Citizenship and Immigration

Israel's institutionalized system of discrimination/APARTHEID is rooted on being able to classify population along racial lines. Israel first legally defines who is Jewish and then extends special privileges to Jews over non-Jews. Israel views itself as the state of the 'Jewish nation,' not an 'Israeli nation.' It thus*distinguishes between*citizenship and nationality.

Land ownership: Palestinian enclaves, Jewish colonies

The Palestinian enclaves (Areas A and B)*are currently split up into some 131*disconnected Bantustans; these are*surrounded*by a*contiguous region (Area C) under*complete*Israeli*control. Jewish colonies are currently made up of over 220 settlements; 121 official ones and the remainder being unofficial 'outposts' which are built without Israeli approval.*Residence and entry in each ethnic enclave is determined by one's racial identity; Jewish colonists in one area and Palestinians in the other.*Settlers have access to all the amenities of a developed nation while most Palestinians live under substandard conditions.

Dual legal systems

Israel has in place two systems of law in the Palestinian territories. It applies Israeli civilian law to Jews and indigenous Palestinians are subject to military law. Israel treats*the settlements as de facto extensions of Israel*and*grants settlers the rights of citizens*with democratic protections, despite them living outside Israel on occupied Palestinian land.

Three apartheid policies enforced by Israel today | rabble.ca

 

[Victory67]

the West Bank is an Apartheid regime and this will be proven in international court if no peace treaty is agreed to.

 

[Victory67]

Dual legal systems

Israel has in place two systems of law in the Palestinian territories. It applies Israeli civilian law to Jews and indigenous Palestinians are subject to military law. Israel treats*the settlements as de facto extensions of Israel*and*grants settlers the rights of citizens*with democratic protections, despite them living outside Israel on occupied Palestinian land.

Three apartheid policies enforced by Israel today | rabble.ca

I may be wrong, but aren't all Israelis in the WB under military law?

 

[toastman]

the West Bank is an Apartheid regime and this will be proven in international court if no peace treaty is agreed to.

*yawn*

Wake me ip when this happens

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

Name calling says everything about you and absolutely not a thing about me.

It also exposes your inability to discuss the legal issue of Apartheid in Israel/Palestine.

And I am Blessed when you call me names so I thank you for that.

And Apartheid in Israel and the OPT is very much a fact, from Jew only settlements to Jew only roads to Jew only schools to special laws that favor Jews in matters of citizenship and land ownership and many other areas.

The law supports the proposition that Israel is an Apartheid State.

DEAL with it, Zionist.

THERE is an international crime called Apartheid.

And nations are subject to that law by treaty or by principles of customary intl law that makes such laws binding on all nations.

Doesn't matter.

What DOES matter is The Law, and what is in force, and what is not, and when it went into effect.

And, broadly speaking, these do not support your assertions.

When you have something substantive, at law, which the International Criminal Court can sink its teeth into, be sure to wake me up.

Until then, no such thing as 'Apartheid' exists, at law, in this context, and this setting.

And all the deflection and Godwin-ian invocations in the world cannot turn that around for you.

Epic Fail.

Sorry, but Nazi whores like yourself have no credibility on issues related to Israel. So shut up and go parrot your crap somewhere else , Palestinian shill

 

[Kondor3]

An anti-Israeli op-ed piece on a Canadian Uber-Lib Alternative News website...

Now THERE's credibility for ya that will stand up under a closer scrutiny in front of the International Criminal Court...

Not

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Three apartheid policies enforced by Israel today

FEBRUARY 25, 2014

Citizenship and Immigration

Israel's institutionalized system of discrimination/APARTHEID is rooted on being able to classify population along racial lines. Israel first legally defines who is Jewish and then extends special privileges to Jews over non-Jews. Israel views itself as the state of the 'Jewish nation,' not an 'Israeli nation.' It thus*distinguishes between*citizenship and nationality.

Land ownership: Palestinian enclaves, Jewish colonies

The Palestinian enclaves (Areas A and B)*are currently split up into some 131*disconnected Bantustans; these are*surrounded*by a*contiguous region (Area C) under*complete*Israeli*control. Jewish colonies are currently made up of over 220 settlements; 121 official ones and the remainder being unofficial 'outposts' which are built without Israeli approval.*Residence and entry in each ethnic enclave is determined by one's racial identity; Jewish colonists in one area and Palestinians in the other.*Settlers have access to all the amenities of a developed nation while most Palestinians live under substandard conditions.

Dual legal systems

Israel has in place two systems of law in the Palestinian territories. It applies Israeli civilian law to Jews and indigenous Palestinians are subject to military law. Israel treats*the settlements as de facto extensions of Israel*and*grants settlers the rights of citizens*with democratic protections, despite them living outside Israel on occupied Palestinian land.

Three apartheid policies enforced by Israel today | rabble.ca