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As the demographics change in America and move further from our founding demos so to does the principles that our great nation was once pillared by.
So where does it end...where are we headed?
How many more needy, dependent, thirdworld minded folks do Democrats need to successfully launch that commie-lite version of governance they have been easing us into?
They’ll fail with the almost dead Bernie in 2020...but what if they had moved ten or twenty million of their brown pet humans from Mexifornia and into some swing states?
What if the party of twisted fools had a younger, browner, gayer beggar running and pitching the same shit that almost dead Bernie is?
 

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This nation was also founded on slavery and on the oppression of the native inhabitants. It was founded by immigrants..for immigrants. The vast majority of Brown people..work for a living, pay taxes, fight in our wars--and put up with shit from you ignorant types..most of whom are hypocritical enough to rant about free stuff..while taking from the Govt. themselves. By far the largest bunch of free stuff is Social Security and Medicare..followed by Food Stamps.
 

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This nation was also founded on slavery and on the oppression of the native inhabitants. It was founded by immigrants..for immigrants. The vast majority of Brown people..work for a living, pay taxes, fight in our wars--and put up with shit from you ignorant types..most of whom are hypocritical enough to rant about free stuff..while taking from the Govt. themselves. By far the largest bunch of free stuff is Social Security and Medicare..followed by Food Stamps.
While you make a couple of good points here, the "hate American history" theme shines through to sort of eclipse the rest. I married into a family of "brown" people (immigrants of East Indian descent) who indeed are all hard workers and who all earned higher educations. Immigrants have always been vital to American survival on some level, but never on an open borders, mass human wave basis. The family I married into includes accountants, a virologist, a chemical engineer, a stock broker and so on in that vein; all people who benefited from our immigration system and in turn benefit our civilization greatly.

What the OP is alluding to is the mass, unregulated relocation of millions of people of low caliber from nations their own governments trashed, who want to come here (hell, who believe it is their right to come here), not for refuge or to make America a better place, but to "terraform" our culture and replace our own ancestors' generational roles as citizens. Not everyone who wants to come from everywhere else around the world can just migrate here and expect a warm reception. There must be enforced strong immigration law that limits who can come here (and stay) and how many. Otherwise our civilization ends . . . for the rest of us and our nation becomes something else.
 

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This nation was also founded on slavery and on the oppression of the native inhabitants. It was founded by immigrants..for immigrants. The vast majority of Brown people..work for a living, pay taxes, fight in our wars--and put up with shit from you ignorant types..most of whom are hypocritical enough to rant about free stuff..while taking from the Govt. themselves. By far the largest bunch of free stuff is Social Security and Medicare..followed by Food Stamps.
Social Security and Medicare?....dang, coulda swore I paid into those programs.
 

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This nation was also founded on slavery and on the oppression of the native inhabitants. It was founded by immigrants..for immigrants. The vast majority of Brown people..work for a living, pay taxes, fight in our wars--and put up with shit from you ignorant types..most of whom are hypocritical enough to rant about free stuff..while taking from the Govt. themselves. By far the largest bunch of free stuff is Social Security and Medicare..followed by Food Stamps.
Social Security and Medicare?....dang, coulda swore I paid into those programs.
Don't forget that your employer also paid into those programs so it was considered part of your pay package by most employers
 

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This nation was also founded on slavery and on the oppression of the native inhabitants. It was founded by immigrants..for immigrants. The vast majority of Brown people..work for a living, pay taxes, fight in our wars--and put up with shit from you ignorant types..most of whom are hypocritical enough to rant about free stuff..while taking from the Govt. themselves. By far the largest bunch of free stuff is Social Security and Medicare..followed by Food Stamps.
Social Security and Medicare?....dang, coulda swore I paid into those programs.
They try this shit all the time.
But,but ....SS and Medicare is Socialism.:cuckoo:
 

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This nation was also founded on slavery and on the oppression of the native inhabitants. It was founded by immigrants..for immigrants. The vast majority of Brown people..work for a living, pay taxes, fight in our wars--and put up with shit from you ignorant types..most of whom are hypocritical enough to rant about free stuff..while taking from the Govt. themselves. By far the largest bunch of free stuff is Social Security and Medicare..followed by Food Stamps.
Social Security and Medicare?....dang, coulda swore I paid into those programs.
The average retiree takes far more than they put in...remember that it's an insurance program..you pay your premiums...but they do not cover cost..in most instances.
 

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This nation was also founded on slavery and on the oppression of the native inhabitants. It was founded by immigrants..for immigrants. The vast majority of Brown people..work for a living, pay taxes, fight in our wars--and put up with shit from you ignorant types..most of whom are hypocritical enough to rant about free stuff..while taking from the Govt. themselves. By far the largest bunch of free stuff is Social Security and Medicare..followed by Food Stamps.
While you make a couple of good points here, the "hate American history" theme shines through to sort of eclipse the rest. I married into a family of "brown" people (immigrants of East Indian descent) who indeed are all hard workers and who all earned higher educations. Immigrants have always been vital to American survival on some level, but never on an open borders, mass human wave basis. The family I married into includes accountants, a virologist, a chemical engineer, a stock broker and so on in that vein; all people who benefited from our immigration system and in turn benefit our civilization greatly.

What the OP is alluding to is the mass, unregulated relocation of millions of people of low caliber from nations their own governments trashed, who want to come here (hell, who believe it is their right to come here), not for refuge or to make America a better place, but to "terraform" our culture and replace our own ancestors' generational roles as citizens. Not everyone who wants to come from everywhere else around the world can just migrate here and expect a warm reception. There must be enforced strong immigration law that limits who can come here (and stay) and how many. Otherwise our civilization ends . . . for the rest of us and our nation becomes something else.
I neither hate nor love history..history is. It is ironic that we so often fail to measure up to our ideals.

I too, believe in immigration control...strong borders..and a robust immigration program...hand in hand. But the sight of a hijab does not frighten me..nor the sound of Spanish being spoken anger me.
 

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As the demographics change in America and move further from our founding demos so to does the principles that our great nation was once pillared by.
So where does it end...where are we headed?
How many more needy, dependent, thirdworld minded folks do Democrats need to successfully launch that commie-lite version of governance they have been easing us into?
They’ll fail with the almost dead Bernie in 2020...but what if they had moved ten or twenty million of their brown pet humans from Mexifornia and into some swing states?
What if the party of twisted fools had a younger, browner, gayer beggar running and pitching the same shit that almost dead Bernie is?
Are you awake? Why do you support socialism for the extreme wealthy?
 

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This nation was also founded on slavery and on the oppression of the native inhabitants. It was founded by immigrants..for immigrants. The vast majority of Brown people..work for a living, pay taxes, fight in our wars--and put up with shit from you ignorant types..most of whom are hypocritical enough to rant about free stuff..while taking from the Govt. themselves. By far the largest bunch of free stuff is Social Security and Medicare..followed by Food Stamps.
Social Security and Medicare?....dang, coulda swore I paid into those programs.
The average retiree takes far more than they put in...remember that it's an insurance program..you pay your premiums...but they do not cover cost..in most instances.
Compared to what the extreme wealthy get, average retirees get peanuts. Can’t you see this?
 

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Then why did corporate farm get free stuff?
 

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Then why did corporate farm get free stuff?
Apparently many are unaware of all the free stuff Uncle provides to the wealthy and special interest groups. Providing for the poor and working class...well damn, that’s Communism.
 

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Tell that to companies who send an army of lobbyists to the Hill each day buying subsidies and tax breaks.

These 91 companies paid no federal taxes in 2018
These 91 companies paid no federal taxes in 2018

How Corporate Welfare Hurts You
How Corporate Welfare Hurts You
Tax subsidies creates or sustains jobs which expands the tax base. You say that is hurting US. How does that hurt US whereas open boarders and welfare to illegals is supposed to help US?

I’d rather have the corporate welfare.... it is giving a better return.
 

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Tell that to companies who send an army of lobbyists to the Hill each day buying subsidies and tax breaks.

These 91 companies paid no federal taxes in 2018
These 91 companies paid no federal taxes in 2018

How Corporate Welfare Hurts You
How Corporate Welfare Hurts You
Tax subsidies creates or sustains jobs which expands the tax base. You say that is hurting US. How does that hurt US whereas open boarders and welfare to illegals is supposed to help US?

I’d rather have the corporate welfare.... it is giving a better return.
"Welfare to illegals" is corporate welfare. It's the businesses that draw them here. They don't pay them enough to survive so the taxpayers have to pick up the slack.
 

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Tell that to companies who send an army of lobbyists to the Hill each day buying subsidies and tax breaks.

These 91 companies paid no federal taxes in 2018
These 91 companies paid no federal taxes in 2018

How Corporate Welfare Hurts You
How Corporate Welfare Hurts You
Tax subsidies creates or sustains jobs which expands the tax base. You say that is hurting US. How does that hurt US whereas open boarders and welfare to illegals is supposed to help US?

I’d rather have the corporate welfare.... it is giving a better return.
Do you go through life with blinders on? Open your fucking eyes.

58% of Americans Have Less Than $1,000 in Savings, Survey Finds
58% of Americans Have Less Than $1,000 in Savings, Survey Finds

 

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Tell that to companies who send an army of lobbyists to the Hill each day buying subsidies and tax breaks.

These 91 companies paid no federal taxes in 2018
These 91 companies paid no federal taxes in 2018

How Corporate Welfare Hurts You
How Corporate Welfare Hurts You
Tax subsidies creates or sustains jobs which expands the tax base. You say that is hurting US. How does that hurt US whereas open boarders and welfare to illegals is supposed to help US?

I’d rather have the corporate welfare.... it is giving a better return.
We need more Americans living in RVs. WTF!


RV Living Grows as Latest Consequence of Housing Crisis
 

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Tell that to companies who send an army of lobbyists to the Hill each day buying subsidies and tax breaks.

These 91 companies paid no federal taxes in 2018
These 91 companies paid no federal taxes in 2018

How Corporate Welfare Hurts You
How Corporate Welfare Hurts You
Tax subsidies creates or sustains jobs which expands the tax base. You say that is hurting US. How does that hurt US whereas open boarders and welfare to illegals is supposed to help US?

I’d rather have the corporate welfare.... it is giving a better return.
Do you go through life with blinders on? Open your fucking eyes.

58% of Americans Have Less Than $1,000 in Savings, Survey Finds
58% of Americans Have Less Than $1,000 in Savings, Survey Finds

That is a very disturbing statistic and bears exploration but is a very weak, non-relevant retort or support that “I have blinders on”. Again, I’d rather have corporate welfare vs. direct welfare to illegals. It provides a better return.
 

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Tell that to companies who send an army of lobbyists to the Hill each day buying subsidies and tax breaks.

These 91 companies paid no federal taxes in 2018
These 91 companies paid no federal taxes in 2018

How Corporate Welfare Hurts You
How Corporate Welfare Hurts You
Tax subsidies creates or sustains jobs which expands the tax base. You say that is hurting US. How does that hurt US whereas open boarders and welfare to illegals is supposed to help US?

I’d rather have the corporate welfare.... it is giving a better return.
Do you go through life with blinders on? Open your fucking eyes.

58% of Americans Have Less Than $1,000 in Savings, Survey Finds
58% of Americans Have Less Than $1,000 in Savings, Survey Finds

That is a very disturbing statistic and bears exploration but is a very weak, non-relevant retort or support that “I have blinders on”. Again, I’d rather have corporate welfare vs. direct welfare to illegals. It provides a better return.
There is very little direct welfare to illegals but what there is as I said, corporate welfare.
 

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Tell that to companies who send an army of lobbyists to the Hill each day buying subsidies and tax breaks.

These 91 companies paid no federal taxes in 2018
These 91 companies paid no federal taxes in 2018

How Corporate Welfare Hurts You
How Corporate Welfare Hurts You
Tax subsidies creates or sustains jobs which expands the tax base. You say that is hurting US. How does that hurt US whereas open boarders and welfare to illegals is supposed to help US?

I’d rather have the corporate welfare.... it is giving a better return.
Do you go through life with blinders on? Open your fucking eyes.

58% of Americans Have Less Than $1,000 in Savings, Survey Finds
58% of Americans Have Less Than $1,000 in Savings, Survey Finds

That is a very disturbing statistic and bears exploration but is a very weak, non-relevant retort or support that “I have blinders on”. Again, I’d rather have corporate welfare vs. direct welfare to illegals. It provides a better return.
There is very little direct welfare to illegals but what there is as I said, corporate welfare.
Again, any corporate welfare yields better returns than any illegal welfare.
 

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