This nation was founded and built on Free-dom and not on Free-shit

[BrokeLoser]

haha...you and your weird tunnel vision are a lost cause.

Facts seem to bother you.

The fact is you want Americans to embrace funding wetbacks like they embrace investing in our food sources. Sorry, ain't ever gonna happen.

I'm for ending support of corporate subsidies. Part of that is supporting illegals. The subsidies exist so that business can have their cheap labor.

We've spent $22T on the socialism you advocate for with no return or improvement....How much have we spent on "corporate subsidies" and what does the loss / reward look like?
I'm certain you have the numbers since you're so sure we don't operate in the black with regard to "corporate subsidies".

I don't really need to address a point you just make up.

Translation:
"You made too much sense and I can't refute that."

 

[anynameyouwish]

Why not? We have subsidized corporate farming for decades and then Trump gives them billions more.

haha...you and your weird tunnel vision are a lost cause.

Facts seem to bother you.

The fact is you want Americans to embrace funding wetbacks like they embrace investing in our food sources. Sorry, ain't ever gonna happen.

I'm for ending support of corporate subsidies. Part of that is supporting illegals. The subsidies exist so that business can have their cheap labor.

We've spent $22T on the socialism you advocate for with no return or improvement....How much have we spent on "corporate subsidies" and what does the loss / reward look like?
I'm certain you have the numbers since you're so sure we don't operate in the black with regard to "corporate subsidies".

"
We've spent $22T on the socialism you advocate for with no return or improvement..."


links?
evidence?
real data?
actual facts?

or are you just making shit up again....trump.....


".How much have we spent on "corporate subsidies" and what does the loss / reward look like?""

100gazillionbazillion! more or less.....

no links
no facts
no data
just making it up.....like you.....


"I'm certain you have the numbers since you're so sure we don't operate in the black with regard to "corporate subsidies".


show us YOURS first....

 

[BrokeLoser]

haha...you and your weird tunnel vision are a lost cause.

Facts seem to bother you.

The fact is you want Americans to embrace funding wetbacks like they embrace investing in our food sources. Sorry, ain't ever gonna happen.

I'm for ending support of corporate subsidies. Part of that is supporting illegals. The subsidies exist so that business can have their cheap labor.

We've spent $22T on the socialism you advocate for with no return or improvement....How much have we spent on "corporate subsidies" and what does the loss / reward look like?
I'm certain you have the numbers since you're so sure we don't operate in the black with regard to "corporate subsidies".

"
We've spent $22T on the socialism you advocate for with no return or improvement..."


links?
evidence?
real data?
actual facts?

or are you just making shit up again....trump.....


".How much have we spent on "corporate subsidies" and what does the loss / reward look like?""

100gazillionbazillion! more or less.....

no links
no facts
no data
just making it up.....like you.....


"I'm certain you have the numbers since you're so sure we don't operate in the black with regard to "corporate subsidies".


show us YOURS first....

Look, just follow the simple manual already laid out for you and pave your own way...go to school, get educated, become ambitious and driven and TA-DA!!
You don't beg others for free shit...It's so fucking simple.
America’s longest war

 

[pknopp]

Facts seem to bother you.

The fact is you want Americans to embrace funding wetbacks like they embrace investing in our food sources. Sorry, ain't ever gonna happen.

I'm for ending support of corporate subsidies. Part of that is supporting illegals. The subsidies exist so that business can have their cheap labor.

We've spent $22T on the socialism you advocate for with no return or improvement....How much have we spent on "corporate subsidies" and what does the loss / reward look like?
I'm certain you have the numbers since you're so sure we don't operate in the black with regard to "corporate subsidies".

I don't really need to address a point you just make up.

Translation:
"You made too much sense and I can't refute that."

I have no idea what you are even talking about.

 

[BrokeLoser]

The fact is you want Americans to embrace funding wetbacks like they embrace investing in our food sources. Sorry, ain't ever gonna happen.

I'm for ending support of corporate subsidies. Part of that is supporting illegals. The subsidies exist so that business can have their cheap labor.

We've spent $22T on the socialism you advocate for with no return or improvement....How much have we spent on "corporate subsidies" and what does the loss / reward look like?
I'm certain you have the numbers since you're so sure we don't operate in the black with regard to "corporate subsidies".

I don't really need to address a point you just make up.

Translation:
"You made too much sense and I can't refute that."

I have no idea what you are even talking about.

Playing stupid is just plain stupid...It never looks like a clever refutation.

 

[pknopp]

I'm for ending support of corporate subsidies. Part of that is supporting illegals. The subsidies exist so that business can have their cheap labor.

We've spent $22T on the socialism you advocate for with no return or improvement....How much have we spent on "corporate subsidies" and what does the loss / reward look like?
I'm certain you have the numbers since you're so sure we don't operate in the black with regard to "corporate subsidies".

I don't really need to address a point you just make up.

Translation:
"You made too much sense and I can't refute that."

I have no idea what you are even talking about.

Playing stupid is just plain stupid...It never looks like a clever refutation.

I'm not the only one that has no clue what you are speaking about. I can not refuted vast generalizations.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Again, any corporate welfare yields better returns than any illegal welfare.

Again, it's all the same so I guess you are saying you support it all. I guess you are saying you are a Communist.

I am a Conservative Capitalist. If entities are bearing risk - including global competition from companies with more favorable tax breaks, then I see no issue with the “welfare” they seek which turns out to be incentives and investment from the State so that they can expand their tax base. It’s not the same.

You condemn some corporate subsidies but condemn others in a hypocritical manner. Capitalism has nothing to do with the government subsidizing businesses. You are not a Capitalist.

Calling on government to back off with tax rates that render taking entrepreneurial risk prohibitive is absolutely Capitalist.

Subsidies.......we are talking subsidies, not tax rates.

A subsidy is based on a tax rate. There is no reason for a subsidy if the tax rates are reasonable. I am not advocating businesses large and small not to pay taxes.

 

[LeftofLeft]

That is a very disturbing statistic and bears exploration but is a very weak, non-relevant retort or support that “I have blinders on”. Again, I’d rather have corporate welfare vs. direct welfare to illegals. It provides a better return.

There is very little direct welfare to illegals but what there is as I said, corporate welfare.

Again, any corporate welfare yields better returns than any illegal welfare.

Again, it's all the same so I guess you are saying you support it all. I guess you are saying you are a Communist.

I am a Conservative Capitalist. If entities are bearing risk - including global competition from companies with more favorable tax breaks, then I see no issue with the “welfare” they seek which turns out to be incentives and investment from the State so that they can expand their tax base. It’s not the same.

That's a pretty odd avatar for a conservative capitalist to be sporting. Probably the most infamous communist terrorist in history for pity sake.Now who'd a thunk it.

Look closer at the avatar...... it is a complete utter mockery of a pillar of communism. It is Che picking his nose. When I chose the avatar, I could not think of anything more offensive to those who defend and honor him with flags and t-shirts while wagging their fingers at Conservatives about gun control and racism. The irony.

 

[pknopp]

Again, it's all the same so I guess you are saying you support it all. I guess you are saying you are a Communist.

I am a Conservative Capitalist. If entities are bearing risk - including global competition from companies with more favorable tax breaks, then I see no issue with the “welfare” they seek which turns out to be incentives and investment from the State so that they can expand their tax base. It’s not the same.

You condemn some corporate subsidies but condemn others in a hypocritical manner. Capitalism has nothing to do with the government subsidizing businesses. You are not a Capitalist.

Calling on government to back off with tax rates that render taking entrepreneurial risk prohibitive is absolutely Capitalist.

Subsidies.......we are talking subsidies, not tax rates.

A subsidy is based on a tax rate. There is no reason for a subsidy if the tax rates are reasonable. I am not advocating businesses large and small not to pay taxes.

A subsidy is taking from one to give to another.

 

[gipper]

As the demographics change in America and move further from our founding demos so to does the principles that our great nation was once pillared by.
So where does it end...where are we headed?
How many more needy, dependent, thirdworld minded folks do Democrats need to successfully launch that commie-lite version of governance they have been easing us into?
They’ll fail with the almost dead Bernie in 2020...but what if they had moved ten or twenty million of their brown pet humans from Mexifornia and into some swing states?
What if the party of twisted fools had a younger, browner, gayer beggar running and pitching the same shit that almost dead Bernie is?

Are you awake? Why do you support socialism for the extreme wealthy?

This “socialism for the extremely wealthy” you speak of does not exist...this is a figment of the imagination amongst lowlife degenerate beggars. The fabrication of such helps them justify their cries for free shit.
You have to revert to that pesky document you hate.....think "GENERAL WELFARE". The American public in GENERAL does not benefit by investing in ShaQuita’s weed harvest or by paying Guadalupe to expand her litters of filth....The American public in GENERAL does benefit from public investment in commerce and in those who create jobs.
We get it, you low-down liabilities won’t allow yourselves to understand such simple shit...you’ll need to figure out how to become an asset to this nation to fully understand.

You just outed yourself as a fool, with that post.

You need to do research on all the benefits the ultra rich receive from Uncle Sam. After what W and Ears did in the Great Recession, I wouldn’t think uninformed people like you are still around.

 

[rightwinger]

If the nation was founded on Freedom

Why did we allow Slavery?

Our freedom is granted through that pesky document you hate...that pesky document was written to benefit the citizens of this nation you hate....that pesky document was never intended to benefit the citizens of Africa or Mexico....sucks for you huh?

The Constitution was written by Liberals

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

This nation was also founded on slavery and on the oppression of the native inhabitants. It was founded by immigrants..for immigrants. The vast majority of Brown people..work for a living, pay taxes, fight in our wars--and put up with shit from you ignorant types..most of whom are hypocritical enough to rant about free stuff..while taking from the Govt. themselves. By far the largest bunch of free stuff is Social Security and Medicare..followed by Food Stamps.

Social Security and Medicare are NOT free, people pay into that all their working years you dumb ass.

And you're so stupid as to ignore all those on SSI and disability...who paid little or none. I'm in favor of a social safety net...idiot. Medicare is in play whether or not a senior worked a single day.

 

[LeftofLeft]

I am a Conservative Capitalist. If entities are bearing risk - including global competition from companies with more favorable tax breaks, then I see no issue with the “welfare” they seek which turns out to be incentives and investment from the State so that they can expand their tax base. It’s not the same.

You condemn some corporate subsidies but condemn others in a hypocritical manner. Capitalism has nothing to do with the government subsidizing businesses. You are not a Capitalist.

Calling on government to back off with tax rates that render taking entrepreneurial risk prohibitive is absolutely Capitalist.

Subsidies.......we are talking subsidies, not tax rates.

A subsidy is based on a tax rate. There is no reason for a subsidy if the tax rates are reasonable. I am not advocating businesses large and small not to pay taxes.

A subsidy is taking from one to give to another.

I think you have that confused with a tax. If you believe that corporations take before the government takes, then it is not worth debating any further. Your vision of the US is then at variance with what our forefathers intended. Perhaps you are for a “Fundamental Transformation of America”? Maybe businesses “didn’t build that?”

 

[BrokeLoser]

If the nation was founded on Freedom

Why did we allow Slavery?

Our freedom is granted through that pesky document you hate...that pesky document was written to benefit the citizens of this nation you hate....that pesky document was never intended to benefit the citizens of Africa or Mexico....sucks for you huh?

The Constitution was written by Liberals

Yes conservative Liberals...You lowlife begging degenerate pukes are nothing of the sort...Please do not insult our founders by trying to tie yourselves and your twisted belief systems to theirs in any way.

 

[pknopp]

You condemn some corporate subsidies but condemn others in a hypocritical manner. Capitalism has nothing to do with the government subsidizing businesses. You are not a Capitalist.

Calling on government to back off with tax rates that render taking entrepreneurial risk prohibitive is absolutely Capitalist.

Subsidies.......we are talking subsidies, not tax rates.

A subsidy is based on a tax rate. There is no reason for a subsidy if the tax rates are reasonable. I am not advocating businesses large and small not to pay taxes.

A subsidy is taking from one to give to another.

I think you have that confused with a tax. If you believe that corporations take before the government takes, then it is not worth debating any further. Your vision of the US is then at variance with what our forefathers intended. Perhaps you are for a “Fundamental Transformation of America”? Maybe businesses “didn’t build that?”

In some cases that is exactly what happens. Amazon for one.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Comparing modern times to a time when the ‘free shit’ attraction was free land, is ignorance based thinking.

“In the first half of the 19th century the United States was predominantly an agricultural country. The main reason people decided to leave Europe during this period was the possibility of acquiring cheap or free land. “. Immigration to the USA: 1820-1860​

Not enough immigrant s. It’s part of why TrumpO can’t beat Obama’s full years GDP at 2.9%. Why TrumpO called economic failure.

By Jeanna Smialek and Zolan Kanno-Youngs​

• Feb. 27, 2020Updated 4:43 p.m. ET WASHINGTON — At a private event last week, Mick Mulvaney, the acting White House chief of staff, stated a reality that economists treat as conventional wisdom but that the Trump administration routinely ignores: The United States needs immigration to fuel future economic growth.
  “We are desperate, desperate for more
  people,” Mr. Mulvaney told a crowd in England. “We are running out of people to fuel the economic growth.” He said the country needed “more immigrants” but wanted them in a “legal” fashion”