Hi Retired Guy:
Someone please explain why this thread is filling up with BS from people that includes
quoting NOBODY and offering third-party evidentiary support from NOBODY?? Simply click on Retired Guy’s offering in
Post #225, that I am answering right now, and note that Retired Guy is
‘grandstanding’ and just
‘talking’ yet again. Lordy . . .
Anyone else catch the inconsistancies* with the claims by the Thread starter?
First of all, try
“inconsistencies” that has no
‘a’ anywhere. The Topic Starter in this debate has a name that strikes fear in the hearts of DoD field ops and Dupes everywhere. :0)
Let me list a few...
He claimed that on 9/11 2001 Bush was part of a plan to target the Pentagon to murder members of the military that would catch the fact he stole 2.3 trillion dollars.
Umm how did Bush steal 2.3 trillion dollars in 9 months as president? Or does he mean the missing funds in Iraq from several YEARS later?
No. Go back to the Opening Post to gather the real facts that
I do not even mention “George Bush” or the
“2.3 Trillion Dollars” ANYWHERE. The
thesis statement, claims, evidence and conclusions all appear in the
Opening Post of this thread and Retired Guy has no idea about what he is even talking about. Retired Guy is
characterizing my interpretations of the evidence from
‘my defending arguments’ in support of my original OP thesis, claims and conclusions. Now I must answer a silly post from
a guy that cannot even spell ‘inconsistencies,’ while he characterizes my views and supports
‘his BS’ with NOTHING at all. Listen to the evidence from the
CBS News Report about
‘the corruption!’
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlnQTcLHaMM"]YouTube - 1 DAY BEFORE 911 WTC attack! DO u know what happened?WATCH![/ame]
He insisted for most of the thread that the plane in DC never took off and claimed further that NO ONE died from the canceled flight, providing links to supposed people that were on the flight.
The real AA77 flight to LAX was canceled on 9/11, according to the
Bureau of Transportation Statistics (
here) explained
here if anybody really want to reexamine the evidence. I provided that explanation in
Post #37 on this thread and here is the picture (
pic) showing that
all of AA77’s ‘actual’ time information is zeroed out like all the other canceled flights on the page. Again, there is nothing about
any canceled anything in the OP of this thread, but Retired Guy is citing bits and pieces of evidence
from my ‘defending arguments’ that support my original OP hypothesis/explanation. The DoD murdered key principals all around the USA
who ‘could’ throw a monkey wrench into this 9/11 Inside Job ‘and’ those people would assigned seats on
‘canceled’ flights, because
DUPES in 9/11 Denial will believe just about anything . . .
Now he is arguing that the DNA evidence that exists of the DEAD people from the flight was all secretly sent in from an Air Force Base, not found at the site and further claims these people were murdered to obtain the DNA evidence, I am confused, which is it? They are all alive and well or they were all murdered?
To say Retired Guy is confused is a massive understatement.
:0) Again, I have dozens of Pentagon Thesis Papers drafted for this 9/11 Inside-job attack, but
the OP of ‘this thread’ says nothing about
‘DEAD people’ or
‘Air Force Bases’ or
‘DNA evidence.’ No 100-ton Jetliner even crashed at the Pentagon, so obviously
there are no DEAD PEOPLE connected to AA77 to describe in my OP explanations about
‘what really happened.’ If anybody here is going to offer
‘rebuttals’ to my actual explanations of what really happened on 9/11 at the Pentagon, then you MUST address
something that “I did write” in the Opening Post of this thread using whatever
‘you call’ credible evidence to support SOMETHING ELSE. Retired Guy is talking about DEAD People and victim DNA and Air Force Bases, but where is
‘his’ evidence for anything? :0)
He claims an A-3 was used to fire a missile and to crash into the Pentagon.
No. My OP explanation says
a ‘retrofitted’ A-3 Skywarrior was used in the attack, which I just explained in the previous post to Kalam (
here)
using third-party links to ‘that’ evidence. I do believe that Mr. Retired Guy needs some lessons on the true meaning and purpose of
‘debate,’ which amounts to the presentation of
‘opposing views’ (
dictionary). That means
I show ‘the evidence’ to support ‘my view’ that
a retrofitted A-3 Skywarrior
‘was’ used in the 9/11 attack at the Pentagon. Again,
that ‘evidentiary support’ was provided from
these third-party sources (
lookingglassnews.org,
Portland.indymedia.org and
home.att.net). I have
‘three’ related ‘A-3 retrofit’ stories with information to support
‘my OP explanation,’ but what does Retired Guy have in the way of
any ‘supported’ opposing explanation? The guy has
NOTHING but
more whining and crying . . .
His proof is an engine that was NEVER on the A-3 and was not found at the scene, a wheel that is not from an A-3 and exactly matches the wheel from the aircraft that the Government claims hit the Pentagon.
The DoD and their military contractors and their military subcontractors have access to
every Pratt & Whitney military Jet engine in the U.S. Military Arsenal!!! There is no reason for anyone to believe that the
DoD ‘retrofitted’ flying BOMB began ‘and’ ended the ‘retrofitting process’ with
the same Pratt & Whitney engines or wheels or rims!!! The evidence says,
LookingGlassNews.org
[FONT="]According to two civilian defense contractor employees working at commercial corporate facilities at Fort Collins-Loveland Municipal Airport (left), in the months before the September 11 attacks U.S. Air Force defense contractors brought in A-3 Sky Warrior aircraft under cover of darkness to be COMPLETELY refitted and modified at the small civilian airport in Colorado. [/FONT]
[FONT="]The revelations are important evidence for a reportedly ongoing secret 9/11 probe because widely available Federal Emergency Management Administration (FEMA) photographs taken during the attacks clearly show that [FONT="]the few aircraft parts found at the Pentagon belonged to a small jet very similar to a modified A-3 Sky Warrior--not the American Airlines Boeing 757.[/FONT][/FONT]
The fact that NO Boeing 757-200 Jetliner parts were found at the Pentagon is explained in detail by
Colonel George Nelson (
here). Right here is the obvious difference between
‘my work’ and that of
Retired Guy, because
“I do” support my 911Truth explanations with ‘evidence’ and he is out here just
‘talking’ 
blahblah
and making a case for
NOTHING. Who has Retired Guy quoted in this debate with more credibility than
Colonel George Nelson from our own military with the job of maintaining Jet aircraft throughout his military career? The fact is that many of you (including Retired Guy) have never heard of
a ‘time-change part,’ until you found that information in my work and from the testimony from somebody like Colonel George Nelson. All of these commercial Jetliners have
‘time-change parts’ that have
serial numbers written down in maintenance log books that identify crashed Jetliners all the time. The problem is that Retired Guy has NO EVIDENCE to support
the Government’s claim that ‘they’ are even in possession of AA77, or AA11, or Flight 93, or Flight 175; when
that determination ‘could’ be proven in fifteen minutes after cool down, according to Colonel George Nelson’s expert testimony.
He posted a diagram that shows where the bodies and DNA was found of ALL the victims, claims the dead ( but really alive) passengers and crew body parts were smuggled into the wreckage after the fact, THEN claims no DNA was recovered at the pentagon at all but rather sent from an Air Force Base.
No sir. Retired Guy is again
‘characterizing’ my explanations from ‘defending arguments’ and NOTHING I actually presented as my thesis, claims, evidence and conclusions from the OP of this thread. I ‘am’ here to defend
the OP explanation ‘and’
to answer related questions on this Pentagon Case, but any Pentagon Explanation about DNA and bodies and victims and passengers and crew body parts and smuggling evidence and whatnot will be part of
future OP Pentagon Papers ON THOSE RELATED TOPICS. Since no 100-ton Jetliner crashed at the Pentagon, then obviously
those supposed ‘victims’ were murdered at some other location and the DNA evidence was included in the paperwork for
‘this’ Pentagon Investigation. I answered Retired Guy’s questions on that subject in
Post #124 using third-party testimony from third-party links and
his ‘two-liner’ reply appears in
Post #125. Okay, so where are
his ‘opposing views’ in a Pentagon Explanation using his own examples of credible evidence? ;0)
He claims that the supposed A-3 Naval Jet could clip 5 light poles ( or telephone poles) and keep flying with just an adjustment from the secret remote pilot.
No. The
‘retrofitted’ DoD Jet clipped only two of the five light poles (#1 and #2), while the others were uprooted (like #1) by
the ‘bow shockwave’ of the hypersonic missile (
pic). Retired Guy does NOT understand my OP explanation well enough to even write a rebuttal, which is the reason he remains very much
‘confused.’ Briefly: The DoD Jet launched the missile some miles away from the Pentagon in order to create
required ‘distance’ between these
‘two’ 9:31:39 AM attack components. The Jet continued to approach the Pentagon at around 500 miles per hour, but the missile was following at a much slower speed; until making up the distance in the final moment, when
the missile went ‘hypersonic.’ The DoD bad guys failed to realize that
the missile bow shockwave would
‘enlarge’ upon approaching the Route 27 overpass (
pic) and the ‘elevated roadway.’ The DoD missile crossed Washington BLVD (Route 27) between the large green signs and Pole #1, when the force from
the enlarged bow shockwave uprooted and launched
the ‘breakaway pole’ up into the air ‘and’
directly in front of the approaching DoD Jet on course to strike the Column Line (CL) 11-15 location (
pic = lower left). However, the starboard engine struck the upper arm assembly of the light pole (
pic) to transfer force to the main pole shaft; which was
thrown ‘north’ and directly through Lloyd England’s taxi windshield.
You can see the upper assembly ‘detached’ from the main pole in the picture beyond the taxi cab ‘and’ the hole in the windshield where Lloyd and his helper (from the white van) removed the pole during the
‘big boom’ incident (
LibertyPost.org article) that took place about 5 minutes ‘after’ the original 9:31:39 AM missile strike. The DoD Flying BOMB then clipped Pole #2 (
pic = upper right), which you can also see was clipped only
at the ‘top’ of the pole that is very narrow. However, Poles 3, 4 and 5 were all uprooted by
the missile bow shockwave, which accounts for more ‘twisting’ of the components than actually being struck by the DoD Jet.
Ohh then there is the supposed picture of a wing from an A-3 being smuggled off the lawn. Of course the object has almost no weight as evidenced by the people carrying it having no load on their shoulders, it is most likely a tent being carried ON to the Lawn as evidenced by the color and appearance and the actual direction the carrying members are taking it, you know ON to the lawn NOT off.
This is where Mr. Retired Guy is apparently characterizing something from somebody else. Of course we cannot really tell what the heck this guy is ‘talking’ about, because he refuses to
actually “quote >>” from MY WORK before beginning is empty rants. You want to see pictures of A-3 fuselage parts? :0)
Here you go hotshot! Jon Carlson does a good job of showing you the parts on his website
here.
Not to mention the fact that he and others have claimed there was no wings at the crash site at all.
No wings? :0) Stop being silly! What kind of Retrofitted DoD Flying BOMB has no wings? :0) The portside wing was
detached from the Jet at impact to be thrown ‘north’ (left) into the corner created by the Heliport building and the E-ring wall. Jon Carlson highlights the wing (
here) on this webpage (
here). The starboard wing was also detached to fall straight down at impact (
pic) where the aluminum skin burned like on the fuselage.
GL,
Terral
yeah thats the best thing to do,just let the Bush Dupes continue to fill up the thread with one liner drivel and talk to themselves.
