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So we wonât call them criminals. We can call them uninvited visitors.
They still get deported under USC1325
This is the man that Renee Good died yo protect
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They still get deported under USC1325
But you defend murderers and rapists whenever ICE made an arrest. Show me where you congratulated ICE for arresting those committed heinous crime.
excalibur
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You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brotherâs eye. Matthew 7:5
So you can only see these people as low wage workers ?
Link to me defending murders and rapists or be branded a LIAR. You wont. You'll run away like a coward,
Regardless I clearly said democrats support arresting real criminals.
excalibur
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Now do Democrats.
Here's just one.
Archived: A south Texas attorney and former Democratic chair sentenced to 14 years for receiving, possessing child pornography
Stephen Jabbour of Victoria, Texas was sentenced to 14 years and two months in prison for receiving and possessing child pornography. Jabbour's collection of over 250,000 images and videos of child pornography is believed to have been the largest such collection seized in the Southern District...
Cool. Now find 46 more like I listed.Now do Democrats.
Here's just one.
Archived: A south Texas attorney and former Democratic chair sentenced to 14 years for receiving, possessing child pornography
Stephen Jabbour of Victoria, Texas was sentenced to 14 years and two months in prison for receiving and possessing child pornography. Jabbour's collection of over 250,000 images and videos of child pornography is believed to have been the largest such collection seized in the Southern District...www.ice.gov
excalibur
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Democrats voted for this in Minnesota.
RELEASE: No Joke: Democrats vote to allow convicted murderers, child sex offenders, drive-by shooters to work in DHS programs
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Totally amazes me how the left defend these people. Quite bonkers, really.
ICE arrests convicted sexual predator who was allowed to roam free in Minneapolis because of Governor Tim Walz and Mayor Jacob Freyâs sanctuary policies
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers launched a targeted enforcement operation in Minnesota, Dec. 31, to locate and apprehend Mahad Abdulkadir Yusuf, a criminal illegal alien and convicted sex offender from Somalia. Thanks to the sanctuary policies of Minnesota Governor Tim Walz and...
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MINNEAPOLIS, Minn. â U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers launched a targeted enforcement operation in Minnesota, Dec. 31, to locate and apprehend Mahad Abdulkadir Yusuf, a criminal illegal alien and convicted sex offender from Somalia. Thanks to the sanctuary policies of Minnesota Governor Tim Walz and Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey, this dangerous criminal was free to prowl the streets and victimize Minneapolis residents for years.
Yusuf committed a series of horrific crimes, including a conviction for criminal sexual conduct in the first degree where he forced his victim to perform oral sex on him multiple times. He was also arrested in 2016 for assault in the first degree and has an active warrant from 2024 for obstructing police.
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Was it worth it Renee?
Bs. How many Democrats praise ICE for arresting murderers and rapists. Democrats are against the Riley Act but you expect me to believe they support ICE arresting criminals?
It may or may not be murder...it could be considered MANSLAUGHTER.
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ICE POLICY
ICE policy generally prohibits officers from standing in front of moving vehicles. Current Department of Homeland Security (DHS) rules mandate that agents avoid "creating unnecessary jeopardy" by placing themselves in a vehicle's path.
Key Use-of-Force Rules
* Prohibition on Shooting: Agents are barred from firing at a moving vehicle unless a person inside is using deadly force by means other than the vehicle, or if the vehicle is being used as a weapon and no other "objectively reasonable" option exists.
* Duty to Move: Guidelines explicitly state that if a vehicle moves toward an officer, they must move out of the way rather than stay in front of it and discharge their weapon.
* Tactical Training: Officers are trained to approach from a 90-degree angle (the "tactical L") to ensure they remain out of the vehicleâs potential path of travel.
Recent Controversy
These specific rules are at the center of a national debate following the January 2026 killing of Renee Nicole Good in Minneapolis. Video evidence suggested an agent stood in front of her car before firing, leading to accusations that the agent violated DHS policy by "staging the scene" or creating the very danger that "justified" the shooting.
Would you like to see the specific wording from the DHS Use of Force manual regarding moving vehicles?
Yes.
According to the DHS Policy on the Use of Force, the specific wording regarding moving vehicles is as follows:
DHS Law Enforcement Officers (LEOs) are prohibited from discharging firearms at the operator of a moving vehicle, vessel, aircraft, or other conveyance unless deadly force is justified. Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless:
- Other Deadly Force: A person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or
- Vehicle as a Weapon: The vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury to the officer or others, and no other objectively reasonable defensive option exists (such as moving out of the vehicleâs path).
Firearms may not be discharged from a moving vehicle except in exigent circumstances. In these situations, the officer must have an articulable reason for using deadly force.
The policy explicitly states that officers should:
- Avoid the Path: Not place themselves in the path of a moving vehicle or use their body to block a vehicle's path.
- Seek Alternatives: Avoid "intentionally and unreasonably" placing themselves in positions where they have no alternative but to use deadly force.
- Move to Safety: Immediately attempt to move to a position of safety rather than discharging a firearm if they find themselves in the path of a vehicle.
You don't get to execute someone in cold blood, for resisting an officer for a traffic violation or resisting an order. Don't you KNOW THAT?
You don't get to execute a human being, because they were stupid, for goodness sake!
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She was shot because she used a 3000 pound car and struck an agent. Thats use of deadly force. There have been cases where a traffic stop resulted in a car used as weapon and deadly force was applied.
Thats not cold blood thats an act of criminal negligence with a disregard fir human life by an emotionally disturbed women. All she had to do was stop follow and directions. Hoe hard was that
Sorry! YOU ARE WRONG!
ICE POLICY
ICE policy generally prohibits officers from standing in front of moving vehicles. Current Department of Homeland Security (DHS) rules mandate that agents avoid "creating unnecessary jeopardy" by placing themselves in a vehicle's path.
Key Use-of-Force Rules
- Prohibition on Shooting: Agents are barred from firing at a moving vehicle unless a person inside is using deadly force by means other than the vehicle, or if the vehicle is being used as a weapon and no other "objectively reasonable" option exists.
- Duty to Move: Guidelines explicitly state that if a vehicle moves toward an officer, they must move out of the way rather than stay in front of it and discharge their weapon.
- Tactical Training: Officers are trained to approach from a 90-degree angle (the "tactical L") to ensure they remain out of the vehicleâs potential path of travel.
These specific rules are at the center of a national debate following the January 2026 killing of Renee Nicole Good in Minneapolis. Video evidence suggested an agent stood in front of her car before firing, leading to accusations that the agent violated DHS policy by "staging the scene" or creating the very danger that "justified" the shooting.
Would you like to see the specific wording from the DHS Use of Force manual regarding moving vehicles?
Yes.
According to the DHS Policy on the Use of Force, the specific wording regarding moving vehicles is as follows:
DHS Law Enforcement Officers (LEOs) are prohibited from discharging firearms at the operator of a moving vehicle, vessel, aircraft, or other conveyance unless deadly force is justified. Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless:
- Other Deadly Force: A person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or
- Vehicle as a Weapon: The vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury to the officer or others, and no other objectively reasonable defensive option exists (such as moving out of the vehicleâs path).
Firearms may not be discharged from a moving vehicle except in exigent circumstances. In these situations, the officer must have an articulable reason for using deadly force.
The policy explicitly states that officers should:
- Avoid the Path: Not place themselves in the path of a moving vehicle or use their body to block a vehicle's path.
- Seek Alternatives: Avoid "intentionally and unreasonably" placing themselves in positions where they have no alternative but to use deadly force.
- Move to Safety: Immediately attempt to move to a position of safety rather than discharging a firearm if they find themselves in the path of a vehicle.
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With all due respect THE ICE Officer was doing his job
She was blocking the road. She refused a lawful order to exit the vehicle. As a law enforcement had his hand on the car door and his arm in the vehicle she tried drive off heading towards another officer
She was part of a "track ICE" convoy with the intent to impede and obstructing ICE
It's all her fault
All that cutting and pasting served what purpose?
LeftofLeft
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The only determinant that this was murder is from your sideâs partisan eyes. Based on that logic, Ashley Babbitt was murdered too.
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