Zone1 This is "Religion & Ethics. Is This Ethical?

[hobelim]

It's pretty clear you are on a mission to subordinate Christianity.

No, I have come to edify. To show where right and wrong and judgment lie and to reveal the only right way to understand what you already profess to believe, that Jesus was the messiah, which would raise you all up from the darkest depths of Gehenna that you all have been trapped in for your entire lives as professed "believers".

Is that bad?

 

[ding]

My feelings? Damn, are you really that confused? My feelings have nothing to do with the fact that your professed beliefs that Jesus died for YOUR sins so you can sin with impunity for life are objectively reprehensible. Not to mention irrational. As if an iniquitous ritual celebrating human sacrifice can render karma null and void.

Your feelings have everything to do with it. Hate is an emotion. Emotions are feelings.

 

[hobelim]

Your feelings have everything to do with it. Hate is an emotion. Emotions are feelings.

I'll tell you what.

Don't let anything I say bother you. Spend the rest of your Sundays in church praying to a trinity defying the Law of God and desecrating the teachings of Jesus and when you die physically maybe my God will be nicer about it.

 

[ding]

Should I pay homage to your beliefs that Jesus died so you can sin with impunity for life and not die, even though anyone with eyes can see that you have already died for your own sins? Is this news that you have no life in you?

You might not realize this but I have demonstrated great respect by having the stones to alert you to the truth.

What type of respect were you hoping for? Me telling you that celebrating the death of Jesus, an innocent Jewish man, and defying the Law of my God by turning to a piece of bread for spiritual life religiously is really awesome?

Don't hold your breath.


You want my respect?

Get out of your deathbed stand upright and walk like a man that reflects the image and likeness of a Holy God.

No. You should respect the religious beliefs of others. You don't have to agree with them or practice them. It's ok to even disagree with them. But that's not what you are doing. Being hateful makes you feel good.

 

[ding]

No, I have come to edify. To show where right and wrong and judgment lie and to reveal the only right way to understand what you already profess to believe, that Jesus was the messiah, which would raise you all up from the darkest depths of Gehenna that you all have been trapped in for your entire lives as professed "believers".

Is that bad?

Your posts say otherwise. How many posts do you need to make to edify? Because I'd say a thousand hateful posts on the exact same thing isn't about edification, it's about being hateful and disrespectful as you can be.

 

[hobelim]

No. You should respect the religious beliefs of others.

Not when those beliefs are responsible for for thousands of years of unspeakable suffering of believers and unbelievers alike. Aside from that, I am not stopping anyone from practicing any religion. I am not egging churches, or heckling priests in public. You are posting on a public message board under the topic of religion and ethics. If you don'y like what I am saying here go to church. No one there will disturb your irrational delusions.

 

[ding]

I'll tell you what.

Don't let anything I say bother you. Spend the rest of your Sundays in church praying to a trinity defying the Law of God and desecrating the teachings of Jesus and when you die physically maybe my God will be nicer about it.

Your hatefulness and disrespect only harms yourself. Does it bother you that I keep pointing this out?

 

[ding]

Not when those beliefs are responsible for for thousands of years of unspeakable suffering of believers and unbelievers alike. Aside from that, I am not stopping anyone from practicing any religion. I am not egging churches, or heckling priests in public. You are posting on a public message board under the topic of religion and ethics. If you don'y like what I am saying here go to church. No one there will disturb your irrational delusions.

That's you rationalizing a wrong as a right. You need to see your hate as a good thing.

Adam, did you eat the apple?
The woman YOU made gave it to me.

Somethings never change.

 

[hobelim]

That's you rationalizing a wrong as a right. You need to see your hate as a good thing.

Like I said,

Don't let anything I say bother you. Spend the rest of your Sundays in church praying to a trinity defying the Law of my God, desecrating the teachings of Jesus and when you die physically maybe my God will be nicer about it, especially since you were given a once in a millennia chance to stop doing what is patently offensive to my God.

But only according to the Bible.

Maybe he will give you lots of presents!

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

I already KNOW how GOD thinks. And I can guess your need to justify this

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WOW!!!! You....know how a god thinks. That should make you qualified to rule the planet, as we are truly in awe of you!!!
Too bad though, as there are no gods.

 

[ding]

Like I said,

Don't let anything I say bother you. Spend the rest of your Sundays in church praying to a trinity defying the Law of my God, desecrating the teachings of Jesus and when you die physically maybe my God will be nicer about it, especially since you were given a once in a millennia chance to stop doing what is patently offensive to my God.

But only according to the Bible.

Maybe he will give you lots of presents!

So glad you were able to get that off your chest. It must have been quite the burden only being able to tell me that 1,012 times instead of 1,013 times.

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

Hey, the word is "killed," not unalived. That stupid word makes it sounds like we are creating zombies, and in this case, a zombie pig.
Personally, I have no problem with killing a pig, cow, chicken, deer, or fish. It's far better source of good protein than most plant life.....and it tastes good.
If they tasted like crap, we wouldn't eat them.

 

[hobelim]

So glad you were able to get that off your chest. It must have been quite the burden only being able to tell me that 1,012 times instead of 1,013 times.

The more you invite a response the more I will tell you the same thing and the more people born blind will see. Like I said, I don't give a shit about what you think. I am only responding to your bullshit for the benefit of others.

 

[ding]

The more you invite a response the more I will tell you the same thing and the more people born blind will see. Like I said, I don't give a shit about what you think. I am only responding to your bullshit for the benefit of others.

No, you don't need an invitation to spew your hate. It makes you feel god to do it and that's why you do it so frequently.

 

[hobelim]

No, you don't need an invitation to spew your hate. It makes you feel god to do it and that's why you do it so frequently.

Keep it up! Pretty soon the whole world will come to believe in divine condemnation, the death, a curse, for failing to comply with divine instruction, and will understand what Jesus meant by saying "no one can come to me unless it has been granted him by the Father." thanks to you. Then everywhere you go you will hear from others the very same things that have confounded you hearing from me. Then the prisoners in hells keeping will be free.

Maybe not you but, oh well. Being "left behind" couldn't happen to a nicer person. I certainly don't give a shit.

"So let freedom ring from the prodigious hilltops of New Hampshire. Let freedom ring from the mighty mountains of New York. Let freedom ring from the heightening Alleghenies of Pennsylvania. Let freedom ring from the snowcapped Rockies of Colorado. Let freedom ring from the curvaceous slopes of California. But not only that, let freedom ring from Stone Mountain of Georgia. Let freedom ring from Lookout Mountain of Tennessee. Let freedom ring from every hill and molehill of Mississippi. From every mountainside, let freedom ring.

And when this happens, and when we allow freedom ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, Black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual: Free at last. Free at last. Thank God almighty, we are free at last." MLK

 

[buttercup]

Since you know how God thinks, why do you think God made it so that life needs to consume living things to exist? Why didn't God make it so we could eat rocks or dirt or sand?

That was not God's design. God did not design and put animals on this earth for the purpose of being menu items. In Genesis 1, on the very first page of the Bible, it clearly states that when God created the world and all of us, we were created to eat a 100% plantbased diet. Genesis 1:29-30.

But I just remembered.....on another thread you said you don't believe this is a fallen world (which is a fundamental basic teaching of Christianity.) So if you don't believe that this is a fallen world, I guess I can understand why you think the current horror show and bloodbath was God's design.

 

[hobelim]

it clearly states that when God created the world and all of us, we were created to eat a 100% plantbased diet.

In the garden of eden there were many trees whose fruit was pleasing to the eye and good to eat. These trees that produce good fruit represent people, the fruit of their mind is good to eat, just like bread from heaven, divine instruction, the food of angels. Right now there are many trees whose fruit is pleasing to the eye and good to eat.

The only forbidden fruit is the bullshit of a con artist, an evil deceiver who "beguiles" the gullible to possess them.

When Jesus said "eat my flesh" he was referring to the divine menu where the flesh of one creature or another, metaphors for human archetypes, the flesh of the fruit of their mind, beliefs, teaching, is either clean or unclean.

Humans have evolved over millions of years being omnivorous. This is an irrefutable fact. "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed" Remember Jesus said he was the sower of good seed. He was not talking about planting plants. When he told his disciples to go out and bear fruit in plenty he was not talking about what goes into your mouth and out of your ass, he was talking about what goes into your mind and out of your mouth.

Now you know.


"Come, you who are thirsty, come to the waters; you without money, come, buy, and eat! Come, buy wine and milk without money without cost! Why spend money on that which is not bread, and your labor on that which does not satisfy? listen carefully to me, and eat what is good, and your soul will delight in the richest of food. Incline your ear, come to me: LISTEN so that your soul may live."

 

[ding]

Keep it up! Pretty soon the whole world will come to believe in divine condemnation, the death, a curse, for failing to comply with divine instruction, and will understand what Jesus meant by saying "no one can come to me unless it has been granted him by the Father." thanks to you. Then everywhere you go you will hear from others the very same things that have confounded you hearing from me. Then the prisoners in hells keeping will be free.

Maybe not you but, oh well. Being "left behind" couldn't happen to a nicer person. I certainly don't give a shit.

"So let freedom ring from the prodigious hilltops of New Hampshire. Let freedom ring from the mighty mountains of New York. Let freedom ring from the heightening Alleghenies of Pennsylvania. Let freedom ring from the snowcapped Rockies of Colorado. Let freedom ring from the curvaceous slopes of California. But not only that, let freedom ring from Stone Mountain of Georgia. Let freedom ring from Lookout Mountain of Tennessee. Let freedom ring from every hill and molehill of Mississippi. From every mountainside, let freedom ring.

And when this happens, and when we allow freedom ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, Black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual: Free at last. Free at last. Thank God almighty, we are free at last." MLK

I'm more than happy to let free will run its course. I trust the Lord.... and the predictable surprises of normalization of deviance.

 

[ding]

That was not God's design. God did not design and put animals on this earth for the purpose of being menu items. In Genesis 1, on the very first page of the Bible, it clearly states that when God created the world and all of us, we were created to eat a 100% plantbased diet. Genesis 1:29-30.

But I just remembered.....on another thread you said you don't believe this is a fallen world (which is a fundamental basic teaching of Christianity.) So if you don't believe that this is a fallen world, I guess I can understand why you think the current horror show and bloodbath was God's design.

Despite what some may believe, God doesn't make mistakes. It wasn't a shock to God when man started behaving selfishly. It was expected. Luckily there is a self compensating feature to existence. It's called consequences.

As for God's design, was it part of God's design for animals to eat other animals? Or plants to get nutrients from plants that have died? To live is to consume. If consuming is bad, then so is living.

As for a fallen world, I think people have different names for that but at the end of the day, it is man's nature to be selfish. Do I believe there is an evil spirit that is responsible for that? No. I don't. I believe man is responsible for that.

 

[ding]

In the garden of eden there were many trees whose fruit was pleasing to the eye and good to eat. These trees that produce good fruit represent people, the fruit of their mind is good to eat, just like bread from heaven, divine instruction, the food of angels. Right now there are many trees whose fruit is pleasing to the eye and good to eat.

The only forbidden fruit is the bullshit of a con artist, an evil deceiver who "beguiles" the gullible to possess them.

When Jesus said "eat my flesh" he was referring to the divine menu where the flesh of one creature or another, metaphors for human archetypes, the flesh of the fruit of their mind, beliefs, teaching, is either clean or unclean.

Humans have evolved over millions of years being omnivorous. This is an irrefutable fact. "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed" Remember Jesus said he was the sower of good seed. He was not talking about planting plants. When he told his disciples to go out and bear fruit in plenty he was not talking about what goes into your mouth and out of your ass, he was talking about what goes into your mind and out of your mouth.

Now you know.


"Come, you who are thirsty, come to the waters; you without money, come, buy, and eat! Come, buy wine and milk without money without cost! Why spend money on that which is not bread, and your labor on that which does not satisfy? listen carefully to me, and eat what is good, and your soul will delight in the richest of food. Incline your ear, come to me: LISTEN so that your soul may live."

Did you get your interpretations from bubble gum wrappers?