THIS IS HUGE! — BREAKING NEWS FROM ARIZONA AUDIT: The Number Of Illegal Votes In Maricopa County Could Easily Reach More Than 250,000 Votes

[Lastamender]

Now OANN is involved in Arizona's Senate election audit? Can this thing get any more absurd?
Opinion: The Arizona Senate's auditors have selected their broadcast partner for the election audit, a right-wing cable TV network renowned for spreading conspiracy theories. Why am I not surprised?
Laurie Roberts
Arizona Republic

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OANN will livestream Arizona's election audit? That's just absurd (azcentral.com)

The channel is known for promoting falsehoods and conspiracy theories.[41] On November 24, 2020, YouTube suspended and demonetized OANN's channel for one week as a first strike under its three-strike community guideline violation policy for advertising a false cure for COVID-19.[39]
One America News Network - Wikipedia

Fake news. OAN has the same access and camara video stream as everybody else. Other media sources are just afraid to report on this story.

BULLSHIT. Other media sources are being BARRED from entry. Only OAN is in their. One journalist snuck in as a poll watcher, and she was barred from entry the second day, after they found out who she was.



A fake cyber security company is doing an "audit" of the votes, without the following the state guidelines for an audit, using untrained workers, using blue and black pens which spoil the ballots. All of this is being records by an fake new network, which is financing this fiasco, based on the Donald Trump's lie that the election was "stolen".

What could possibly go wrong???

The Press is barred entry? Geez...you'd think it was a tax payer funded ICE detention center....

Are you ok with a private firm being given access to ballots which they can alter with no oversight?

as opposed to a "public" firm? someone has to do the audit. I would imagine if they want to present their evidence in Court...since this part of a Court proceeding, they would have to swear under oath...just like anyone else presenting evidence, including "public" firms...So, I am fine with it

Oh? What court ordered this audit?

Maricopa County Superior Court.

The Senate order the audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said, fine, you can have an injuction....but you have to pay the folks that were about to do the audit for the time and prep, or it will go forward. The Dems didn't pay. The Court Order the audit to go forward.

Not quite. The Republican Senate didn't just order the audit, they subpoenaed the ballots. That's not a court proceeding. Not even with a court denying Democrats' attempts in court to prevent the audit.

Well the Senate doesn't belong to one party or the other...it's just the Senate. The Senate order a forensic audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said they could have an injuction if they payed the cost already expended by the companies retained, they didn't...and order the audit to continue

Their Senate is under Republican control. Who the fuck knows why you tried to ignore that? Still, it's not a court ordered audit. It was ordered by Arizona Republican Senators who first issued the subpoenas. All the court did was to affirm the Senate had the legal authority to issue the subpoenas. That in no way makes this a court ordered audit as the court never ordered it. At most, they allowed it and even then, only because Arizona law allows their state Senate to authorize it.

Still, it's a sham audit. Despite some 80% of all ballots in all of Arizona being mail-in ballots, this audit is examining only ballots from the state's most left-leaning county. Rather than hire a reputable and qualified firm to perform the audit, they hired a company with zero auditing experience, led by a conspiracy nut who himself promoted the Big Lie. Now they're in possession of the ballots where their reportedly marking them up illegally with wrong colored pens and there's no oversight. They could be destroying ballots by marking votes for all anyone knows. Who knows why you're ok with that?

The Senate is the Senate...but whatever..

The Senate order the audit, the elected representatives of the people. The Dems filed a lawsuit, the Judge granted the injunction, if they paid the cost to the companies for the cost of what they have spent, if not the audit was to go forward...they didn't, those the Court's Order for the audit to continue went forward.

This isn't rocket science.

No, it's not, which leaves me wondering why you lied and referred to the audit as "court ordered" when it was really ordered by Arizona's Republican-led state Senate?

Because it was...the Court Ordered that the Audit continue, unless the Dems paid the contractors. They didn't...thus the Order was enforced.

This really isn't hard to grasp.

The court did NOT order the audit be continued. He simply didn't order that it be stopped. Legally this is a HUGE distinction. There is no court order to continue the audit and to say otherwise, is just another flat out lie, which is all that has been going on since the process started.

wrong, the court in fact ORDERed the injunction if the dems paid the contractors for the money they would have lost for preparing, if the dems djdnt the Order thus said the audit could continue.

A Court speaks through its ORDERS

You just can't stop lying. There was no court order to audit ballots. There's no law w at says a private company has to audit ballots so there's no court that can order Cyber Ninja's to do so.

I never said there was a law that requred cyber ninja to do the audit...why do you think there has to be a law for a Court to have an Order for someone to do something?

What I said was totally factual correct...the Senate speaking for the people that elected them order the audit, the Dems objected and filed a lawsuit..the Court speaking through it's Orders, Ordered the injuction the Dems requested, on condition they paid the company for money they would have lost preparing for the audit, and if they didn't Ordered the audit to continue

Utterly false. The Order does NOT require the audit to continue. It only states that the audit is to be stopped if the Democrats cover the costs.

The Court in no way opines as to whether or not the audit is legal or whether it is being done in accordance with state law. The Order only covers the circumstances under which the Democrats can force the audit to stop.

NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS. THE COURT REFUSED TO OPINE ON THE LEGALITY, NECESSITY OR EVEN WHETHER THE AUDIT IS LEGAL. NONE OF THE THINGS YOU'RE CLAIMING THE JUDGE ISSUED THE ORDER ABOUT.

and if they don’t it’s ordered to continue...hence why it’s going on!

again why are you so upset about the people of Arizona attempting to make sure their elections are done correctly?

why would the audit be illegal and why would the court opine on things even the dems didn’t raise in their request?

Your assumption is utterly and completely false. Not ordering it stop is not the same thing as ordering it to continue. If Democrats don't pay to stop the count, it's up to the Senate which ordered it what happens to the count.

The court very specifically did not make any other ruling on this legality of this audit other than the circumstances under which the Democrats could end it.

This audit is a massive waste of taxpayer dollars and regardless of what the "auditors" claim is the result, the audit will have no effect whatsoever, other than to make money for the auditors, and continue to spread lies and disinformation.

i made no assumptions just spoke facts

why are you talking about the legality of it? nobody even challenged that so why would the court address it?

the people of Arizona disagree with you view on its wastefulness and care about having a fair and accurate election.

“ The People”

No. The crazy Magarat Republicans

the people elected the senators and the senate ordered this audit. The people deserve to have a safe, accurate and fair election. They want to feel secure in that hence the audit.

why the dems would try to stop that or delay that is rather amazing...but unsurprising. Chaos, division, it’s the leftist way

They already have safe, accurate and fair elections. This audit was called for by a nutty handful of their Senators.

how do you know if we don’t have audits? you know what an audit is right?

Because we do have audits. These same Republican Senators complained last year and they got a recount. It was a partial recount based on a statistically significant portion of ballots. That turned up nothing. The Senate Republicans weren't happy about that so then they demanded an audit on the voting equipment. They got that too. That also turned up nothing. Remarkably, despite getting a recount and an audit, those Republican state Senators, still not happy, demanded and got yet another audit. That too turned up nothing. Were those Republican Senators happy after a count, a canvass, certification, a recount and 2 audits? No, they rejected all of that and demanded another audit. This time, Maricopa County election officials refused to cooperate. That led to where we are today.

So yes, I do know what an audit it. This is Arizona's third audit (plus a recount). Will Republicans demand a 4th if this turns up nothing?

Answers to your questions about the Arizona Senate's audit of 2020 election results in Maricopa County

The Arizona Republic answers reader questions about the Arizona Senate-ordered audit of Maricopa County's general election results.

www.azcentral.com

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Their questions remain after multiple lawsuits from the Trump campaign, the Arizona Republican Party and others claiming widespread fraud were dismissed and after multiple audits of Maricopa County results showed that votes were counted accurately and machines were not tampered with.​

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[...]​

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The county hand counted a statistically significant sampling of ballots and conducted two logic and accuracy tests of voting machines.​

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Representatives from all major political parties did a hand count of county ballots after the election. It looked at all votes cast for five races on 8,802 ballots — a statistically significant number of ballots, as state law requires. The audit showed that the county counted votes with 100% accuracy. The county would have expanded the audit if problems were found.​

a recount and an audit are two different things

The fact you have to explain that after 400+ posts gives you an idea of the mental giants we are dealing with.

 

[struth]

Now OANN is involved in Arizona's Senate election audit? Can this thing get any more absurd?
Opinion: The Arizona Senate's auditors have selected their broadcast partner for the election audit, a right-wing cable TV network renowned for spreading conspiracy theories. Why am I not surprised?
Laurie Roberts
Arizona Republic

-------
OANN will livestream Arizona's election audit? That's just absurd (azcentral.com)

The channel is known for promoting falsehoods and conspiracy theories.[41] On November 24, 2020, YouTube suspended and demonetized OANN's channel for one week as a first strike under its three-strike community guideline violation policy for advertising a false cure for COVID-19.[39]
One America News Network - Wikipedia

Fake news. OAN has the same access and camara video stream as everybody else. Other media sources are just afraid to report on this story.

BULLSHIT. Other media sources are being BARRED from entry. Only OAN is in their. One journalist snuck in as a poll watcher, and she was barred from entry the second day, after they found out who she was.



A fake cyber security company is doing an "audit" of the votes, without the following the state guidelines for an audit, using untrained workers, using blue and black pens which spoil the ballots. All of this is being records by an fake new network, which is financing this fiasco, based on the Donald Trump's lie that the election was "stolen".

What could possibly go wrong???

The Press is barred entry? Geez...you'd think it was a tax payer funded ICE detention center....

Are you ok with a private firm being given access to ballots which they can alter with no oversight?

as opposed to a "public" firm? someone has to do the audit. I would imagine if they want to present their evidence in Court...since this part of a Court proceeding, they would have to swear under oath...just like anyone else presenting evidence, including "public" firms...So, I am fine with it

Oh? What court ordered this audit?

Maricopa County Superior Court.

The Senate order the audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said, fine, you can have an injuction....but you have to pay the folks that were about to do the audit for the time and prep, or it will go forward. The Dems didn't pay. The Court Order the audit to go forward.

Not quite. The Republican Senate didn't just order the audit, they subpoenaed the ballots. That's not a court proceeding. Not even with a court denying Democrats' attempts in court to prevent the audit.

Well the Senate doesn't belong to one party or the other...it's just the Senate. The Senate order a forensic audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said they could have an injuction if they payed the cost already expended by the companies retained, they didn't...and order the audit to continue

Their Senate is under Republican control. Who the fuck knows why you tried to ignore that? Still, it's not a court ordered audit. It was ordered by Arizona Republican Senators who first issued the subpoenas. All the court did was to affirm the Senate had the legal authority to issue the subpoenas. That in no way makes this a court ordered audit as the court never ordered it. At most, they allowed it and even then, only because Arizona law allows their state Senate to authorize it.

Still, it's a sham audit. Despite some 80% of all ballots in all of Arizona being mail-in ballots, this audit is examining only ballots from the state's most left-leaning county. Rather than hire a reputable and qualified firm to perform the audit, they hired a company with zero auditing experience, led by a conspiracy nut who himself promoted the Big Lie. Now they're in possession of the ballots where their reportedly marking them up illegally with wrong colored pens and there's no oversight. They could be destroying ballots by marking votes for all anyone knows. Who knows why you're ok with that?

The Senate is the Senate...but whatever..

The Senate order the audit, the elected representatives of the people. The Dems filed a lawsuit, the Judge granted the injunction, if they paid the cost to the companies for the cost of what they have spent, if not the audit was to go forward...they didn't, those the Court's Order for the audit to continue went forward.

This isn't rocket science.

No, it's not, which leaves me wondering why you lied and referred to the audit as "court ordered" when it was really ordered by Arizona's Republican-led state Senate?

Because it was...the Court Ordered that the Audit continue, unless the Dems paid the contractors. They didn't...thus the Order was enforced.

This really isn't hard to grasp.

The court did NOT order the audit be continued. He simply didn't order that it be stopped. Legally this is a HUGE distinction. There is no court order to continue the audit and to say otherwise, is just another flat out lie, which is all that has been going on since the process started.

wrong, the court in fact ORDERed the injunction if the dems paid the contractors for the money they would have lost for preparing, if the dems djdnt the Order thus said the audit could continue.

A Court speaks through its ORDERS

You just can't stop lying. There was no court order to audit ballots. There's no law w at says a private company has to audit ballots so there's no court that can order Cyber Ninja's to do so.

I never said there was a law that requred cyber ninja to do the audit...why do you think there has to be a law for a Court to have an Order for someone to do something?

What I said was totally factual correct...the Senate speaking for the people that elected them order the audit, the Dems objected and filed a lawsuit..the Court speaking through it's Orders, Ordered the injuction the Dems requested, on condition they paid the company for money they would have lost preparing for the audit, and if they didn't Ordered the audit to continue

Utterly false. The Order does NOT require the audit to continue. It only states that the audit is to be stopped if the Democrats cover the costs.

The Court in no way opines as to whether or not the audit is legal or whether it is being done in accordance with state law. The Order only covers the circumstances under which the Democrats can force the audit to stop.

NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS. THE COURT REFUSED TO OPINE ON THE LEGALITY, NECESSITY OR EVEN WHETHER THE AUDIT IS LEGAL. NONE OF THE THINGS YOU'RE CLAIMING THE JUDGE ISSUED THE ORDER ABOUT.

and if they don’t it’s ordered to continue...hence why it’s going on!

again why are you so upset about the people of Arizona attempting to make sure their elections are done correctly?

why would the audit be illegal and why would the court opine on things even the dems didn’t raise in their request?

Your assumption is utterly and completely false. Not ordering it stop is not the same thing as ordering it to continue. If Democrats don't pay to stop the count, it's up to the Senate which ordered it what happens to the count.

The court very specifically did not make any other ruling on this legality of this audit other than the circumstances under which the Democrats could end it.

This audit is a massive waste of taxpayer dollars and regardless of what the "auditors" claim is the result, the audit will have no effect whatsoever, other than to make money for the auditors, and continue to spread lies and disinformation.

i made no assumptions just spoke facts

why are you talking about the legality of it? nobody even challenged that so why would the court address it?

the people of Arizona disagree with you view on its wastefulness and care about having a fair and accurate election.

“ The People”

No. The crazy Magarat Republicans

the people elected the senators and the senate ordered this audit. The people deserve to have a safe, accurate and fair election. They want to feel secure in that hence the audit.

why the dems would try to stop that or delay that is rather amazing...but unsurprising. Chaos, division, it’s the leftist way

They already have safe, accurate and fair elections. This audit was called for by a nutty handful of their Senators.

how do you know if we don’t have audits? you know what an audit is right?

Because we do have audits. These same Republican Senators complained last year and they got a recount. It was a partial recount based on a statistically significant portion of ballots. That turned up nothing. The Senate Republicans weren't happy about that so then they demanded an audit on the voting equipment. They got that too. That also turned up nothing. Remarkably, despite getting a recount and an audit, those Republican state Senators, still not happy, demanded and got yet another audit. That too turned up nothing. Were those Republican Senators happy after a count, a canvass, certification, a recount and 2 audits? No, they rejected all of that and demanded another audit. This time, Maricopa County election officials refused to cooperate. That led to where we are today.

So yes, I do know what an audit it. This is Arizona's third audit (plus a recount). Will Republicans demand a 4th if this turns up nothing?

Answers to your questions about the Arizona Senate's audit of 2020 election results in Maricopa County

The Arizona Republic answers reader questions about the Arizona Senate-ordered audit of Maricopa County's general election results.

www.azcentral.com

​

Their questions remain after multiple lawsuits from the Trump campaign, the Arizona Republican Party and others claiming widespread fraud were dismissed and after multiple audits of Maricopa County results showed that votes were counted accurately and machines were not tampered with.​

​

[...]​

​

The county hand counted a statistically significant sampling of ballots and conducted two logic and accuracy tests of voting machines.​

​

Representatives from all major political parties did a hand count of county ballots after the election. It looked at all votes cast for five races on 8,802 ballots — a statistically significant number of ballots, as state law requires. The audit showed that the county counted votes with 100% accuracy. The county would have expanded the audit if problems were found.​

a recount and an audit are two different things

The fact you have to explain that after 400+ posts gives you an idea of the mental giants we are dealing with.

it just shows a gross and purposeful detachment from reality

 

[Faun]

i made no assumptions just spoke facts

why are you talking about the legality of it? nobody even challenged that so why would the court address it?

the people of Arizona disagree with you view on its wastefulness and care about having a fair and accurate election.

Ok, you've convinced me ... you're pathological.

You claim no one challenged the legality of the audit; but that too is a lie. Yes, there were some legal challenges, starting with...

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ah i missed that...and the Court ordered the audit to go on...so they lost.

Great, then post the court order showing the Democrats' lawsuit was dismissed....

You keep spouting lies as evidenced by your utter inability to provide any of the court documents of which you speak.

when did i de it was dismissed?

show me where is said it was dismissed...stop lying

You're so pathological, you don't know what you're saying.

You said the plaintiff lost. Democrats filed a lawsuit. Had they lost, their motion would have been dismissed. So yeah, claiming the lost is saying the case was dismissed.

well their goal was to stop the audit...it’s going on so they lost.

They won, their case in that the judge granted the injuction...but conditioned it on them putting their money where their mouth was...they didn’t...so the audit was ordered to continue.

I am not sure how this continues to go over your head

The legal battle isn't over yet. A lawsuit isn't lost until a judge says it is.

the audit is happening we will get the results. anything else is moot and a waste of time

Hopefully not. Hopefully the court will shut this nonsensical audit down.

they didn’t. they gave the dems a chance, but of course they didn’t put their money where their mouth is...and the audit is happening

LOL

It's not over yet. The court is still considering whether or not to shut it down. Why? Because you lied about the plaintiffs losing. In reality, the case hasn't been decided yet.

i never said the plaintiffs lost...the opposite i said they won the injuction...but the court ordered them to pay for the expenses of the auditor, and if they didn’t the audit to continue. They didn’t and the audit is under way.

whatever happens later isn’t relevant the audit will be done

LOL

You said...

ah i missed that...and the Court ordered the audit to go on...so they lost.​

... so who's "they" if not the plaintiffs?

yeah there goals were to stop the audit...they lost that. They however did when their injuction...albeit it turned out to be nothing but symbolic due to the brilliance of the judge that saw through the dems game of mere deflect and delay

So you were talking about the plaintiffs then. So why did you deny saying the plaintiffs lost?

 

[justinacolmena]

On Saturday, the Arizona forensic audit continued at the Veterans Memorial Coliseum in downtown Phoenix.

The Democrats who are going to prison wanted it to stop, but now it's too late for them.

 

[Faun]

Now OANN is involved in Arizona's Senate election audit? Can this thing get any more absurd?
Opinion: The Arizona Senate's auditors have selected their broadcast partner for the election audit, a right-wing cable TV network renowned for spreading conspiracy theories. Why am I not surprised?
Laurie Roberts
Arizona Republic

-------
OANN will livestream Arizona's election audit? That's just absurd (azcentral.com)

The channel is known for promoting falsehoods and conspiracy theories.[41] On November 24, 2020, YouTube suspended and demonetized OANN's channel for one week as a first strike under its three-strike community guideline violation policy for advertising a false cure for COVID-19.[39]
One America News Network - Wikipedia

Fake news. OAN has the same access and camara video stream as everybody else. Other media sources are just afraid to report on this story.

BULLSHIT. Other media sources are being BARRED from entry. Only OAN is in their. One journalist snuck in as a poll watcher, and she was barred from entry the second day, after they found out who she was.



A fake cyber security company is doing an "audit" of the votes, without the following the state guidelines for an audit, using untrained workers, using blue and black pens which spoil the ballots. All of this is being records by an fake new network, which is financing this fiasco, based on the Donald Trump's lie that the election was "stolen".

What could possibly go wrong???

The Press is barred entry? Geez...you'd think it was a tax payer funded ICE detention center....

Are you ok with a private firm being given access to ballots which they can alter with no oversight?

as opposed to a "public" firm? someone has to do the audit. I would imagine if they want to present their evidence in Court...since this part of a Court proceeding, they would have to swear under oath...just like anyone else presenting evidence, including "public" firms...So, I am fine with it

Oh? What court ordered this audit?

Maricopa County Superior Court.

The Senate order the audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said, fine, you can have an injuction....but you have to pay the folks that were about to do the audit for the time and prep, or it will go forward. The Dems didn't pay. The Court Order the audit to go forward.

Not quite. The Republican Senate didn't just order the audit, they subpoenaed the ballots. That's not a court proceeding. Not even with a court denying Democrats' attempts in court to prevent the audit.

Well the Senate doesn't belong to one party or the other...it's just the Senate. The Senate order a forensic audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said they could have an injuction if they payed the cost already expended by the companies retained, they didn't...and order the audit to continue

Their Senate is under Republican control. Who the fuck knows why you tried to ignore that? Still, it's not a court ordered audit. It was ordered by Arizona Republican Senators who first issued the subpoenas. All the court did was to affirm the Senate had the legal authority to issue the subpoenas. That in no way makes this a court ordered audit as the court never ordered it. At most, they allowed it and even then, only because Arizona law allows their state Senate to authorize it.

Still, it's a sham audit. Despite some 80% of all ballots in all of Arizona being mail-in ballots, this audit is examining only ballots from the state's most left-leaning county. Rather than hire a reputable and qualified firm to perform the audit, they hired a company with zero auditing experience, led by a conspiracy nut who himself promoted the Big Lie. Now they're in possession of the ballots where their reportedly marking them up illegally with wrong colored pens and there's no oversight. They could be destroying ballots by marking votes for all anyone knows. Who knows why you're ok with that?

The Senate is the Senate...but whatever..

The Senate order the audit, the elected representatives of the people. The Dems filed a lawsuit, the Judge granted the injunction, if they paid the cost to the companies for the cost of what they have spent, if not the audit was to go forward...they didn't, those the Court's Order for the audit to continue went forward.

This isn't rocket science.

No, it's not, which leaves me wondering why you lied and referred to the audit as "court ordered" when it was really ordered by Arizona's Republican-led state Senate?

Because it was...the Court Ordered that the Audit continue, unless the Dems paid the contractors. They didn't...thus the Order was enforced.

This really isn't hard to grasp.

The court did NOT order the audit be continued. He simply didn't order that it be stopped. Legally this is a HUGE distinction. There is no court order to continue the audit and to say otherwise, is just another flat out lie, which is all that has been going on since the process started.

wrong, the court in fact ORDERed the injunction if the dems paid the contractors for the money they would have lost for preparing, if the dems djdnt the Order thus said the audit could continue.

A Court speaks through its ORDERS

You just can't stop lying. There was no court order to audit ballots. There's no law w at says a private company has to audit ballots so there's no court that can order Cyber Ninja's to do so.

I never said there was a law that requred cyber ninja to do the audit...why do you think there has to be a law for a Court to have an Order for someone to do something?

What I said was totally factual correct...the Senate speaking for the people that elected them order the audit, the Dems objected and filed a lawsuit..the Court speaking through it's Orders, Ordered the injuction the Dems requested, on condition they paid the company for money they would have lost preparing for the audit, and if they didn't Ordered the audit to continue

Utterly false. The Order does NOT require the audit to continue. It only states that the audit is to be stopped if the Democrats cover the costs.

The Court in no way opines as to whether or not the audit is legal or whether it is being done in accordance with state law. The Order only covers the circumstances under which the Democrats can force the audit to stop.

NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS. THE COURT REFUSED TO OPINE ON THE LEGALITY, NECESSITY OR EVEN WHETHER THE AUDIT IS LEGAL. NONE OF THE THINGS YOU'RE CLAIMING THE JUDGE ISSUED THE ORDER ABOUT.

and if they don’t it’s ordered to continue...hence why it’s going on!

again why are you so upset about the people of Arizona attempting to make sure their elections are done correctly?

why would the audit be illegal and why would the court opine on things even the dems didn’t raise in their request?

Your assumption is utterly and completely false. Not ordering it stop is not the same thing as ordering it to continue. If Democrats don't pay to stop the count, it's up to the Senate which ordered it what happens to the count.

The court very specifically did not make any other ruling on this legality of this audit other than the circumstances under which the Democrats could end it.

This audit is a massive waste of taxpayer dollars and regardless of what the "auditors" claim is the result, the audit will have no effect whatsoever, other than to make money for the auditors, and continue to spread lies and disinformation.

i made no assumptions just spoke facts

why are you talking about the legality of it? nobody even challenged that so why would the court address it?

the people of Arizona disagree with you view on its wastefulness and care about having a fair and accurate election.

“ The People”

No. The crazy Magarat Republicans

the people elected the senators and the senate ordered this audit. The people deserve to have a safe, accurate and fair election. They want to feel secure in that hence the audit.

why the dems would try to stop that or delay that is rather amazing...but unsurprising. Chaos, division, it’s the leftist way

They already have safe, accurate and fair elections. This audit was called for by a nutty handful of their Senators.

how do you know if we don’t have audits? you know what an audit is right?

Because we do have audits. These same Republican Senators complained last year and they got a recount. It was a partial recount based on a statistically significant portion of ballots. That turned up nothing. The Senate Republicans weren't happy about that so then they demanded an audit on the voting equipment. They got that too. That also turned up nothing. Remarkably, despite getting a recount and an audit, those Republican state Senators, still not happy, demanded and got yet another audit. That too turned up nothing. Were those Republican Senators happy after a count, a canvass, certification, a recount and 2 audits? No, they rejected all of that and demanded another audit. This time, Maricopa County election officials refused to cooperate. That led to where we are today.

So yes, I do know what an audit it. This is Arizona's third audit (plus a recount). Will Republicans demand a 4th if this turns up nothing?

Answers to your questions about the Arizona Senate's audit of 2020 election results in Maricopa County

The Arizona Republic answers reader questions about the Arizona Senate-ordered audit of Maricopa County's general election results.

www.azcentral.com

​

Their questions remain after multiple lawsuits from the Trump campaign, the Arizona Republican Party and others claiming widespread fraud were dismissed and after multiple audits of Maricopa County results showed that votes were counted accurately and machines were not tampered with.​

​

[...]​

​

The county hand counted a statistically significant sampling of ballots and conducted two logic and accuracy tests of voting machines.​

​

Representatives from all major political parties did a hand count of county ballots after the election. It looked at all votes cast for five races on 8,802 ballots — a statistically significant number of ballots, as state law requires. The audit showed that the county counted votes with 100% accuracy. The county would have expanded the audit if problems were found.​

a recount and an audit are two different things

The fact you have to explain that after 400+ posts gives you an idea of the mental giants we are dealing with.

it just shows a gross and purposeful detachment from reality

Oh? How does it show that?

 

[struth]

Now OANN is involved in Arizona's Senate election audit? Can this thing get any more absurd?
Opinion: The Arizona Senate's auditors have selected their broadcast partner for the election audit, a right-wing cable TV network renowned for spreading conspiracy theories. Why am I not surprised?
Laurie Roberts
Arizona Republic

-------
OANN will livestream Arizona's election audit? That's just absurd (azcentral.com)

The channel is known for promoting falsehoods and conspiracy theories.[41] On November 24, 2020, YouTube suspended and demonetized OANN's channel for one week as a first strike under its three-strike community guideline violation policy for advertising a false cure for COVID-19.[39]
One America News Network - Wikipedia

Fake news. OAN has the same access and camara video stream as everybody else. Other media sources are just afraid to report on this story.

BULLSHIT. Other media sources are being BARRED from entry. Only OAN is in their. One journalist snuck in as a poll watcher, and she was barred from entry the second day, after they found out who she was.



A fake cyber security company is doing an "audit" of the votes, without the following the state guidelines for an audit, using untrained workers, using blue and black pens which spoil the ballots. All of this is being records by an fake new network, which is financing this fiasco, based on the Donald Trump's lie that the election was "stolen".

What could possibly go wrong???

The Press is barred entry? Geez...you'd think it was a tax payer funded ICE detention center....

Are you ok with a private firm being given access to ballots which they can alter with no oversight?

as opposed to a "public" firm? someone has to do the audit. I would imagine if they want to present their evidence in Court...since this part of a Court proceeding, they would have to swear under oath...just like anyone else presenting evidence, including "public" firms...So, I am fine with it

Oh? What court ordered this audit?

Maricopa County Superior Court.

The Senate order the audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said, fine, you can have an injuction....but you have to pay the folks that were about to do the audit for the time and prep, or it will go forward. The Dems didn't pay. The Court Order the audit to go forward.

Not quite. The Republican Senate didn't just order the audit, they subpoenaed the ballots. That's not a court proceeding. Not even with a court denying Democrats' attempts in court to prevent the audit.

Well the Senate doesn't belong to one party or the other...it's just the Senate. The Senate order a forensic audit...the Dems filed a lawsuit, the Court said they could have an injuction if they payed the cost already expended by the companies retained, they didn't...and order the audit to continue

Their Senate is under Republican control. Who the fuck knows why you tried to ignore that? Still, it's not a court ordered audit. It was ordered by Arizona Republican Senators who first issued the subpoenas. All the court did was to affirm the Senate had the legal authority to issue the subpoenas. That in no way makes this a court ordered audit as the court never ordered it. At most, they allowed it and even then, only because Arizona law allows their state Senate to authorize it.

Still, it's a sham audit. Despite some 80% of all ballots in all of Arizona being mail-in ballots, this audit is examining only ballots from the state's most left-leaning county. Rather than hire a reputable and qualified firm to perform the audit, they hired a company with zero auditing experience, led by a conspiracy nut who himself promoted the Big Lie. Now they're in possession of the ballots where their reportedly marking them up illegally with wrong colored pens and there's no oversight. They could be destroying ballots by marking votes for all anyone knows. Who knows why you're ok with that?

The Senate is the Senate...but whatever..

The Senate order the audit, the elected representatives of the people. The Dems filed a lawsuit, the Judge granted the injunction, if they paid the cost to the companies for the cost of what they have spent, if not the audit was to go forward...they didn't, those the Court's Order for the audit to continue went forward.

This isn't rocket science.

No, it's not, which leaves me wondering why you lied and referred to the audit as "court ordered" when it was really ordered by Arizona's Republican-led state Senate?

Because it was...the Court Ordered that the Audit continue, unless the Dems paid the contractors. They didn't...thus the Order was enforced.

This really isn't hard to grasp.

The court did NOT order the audit be continued. He simply didn't order that it be stopped. Legally this is a HUGE distinction. There is no court order to continue the audit and to say otherwise, is just another flat out lie, which is all that has been going on since the process started.

wrong, the court in fact ORDERed the injunction if the dems paid the contractors for the money they would have lost for preparing, if the dems djdnt the Order thus said the audit could continue.

A Court speaks through its ORDERS

You just can't stop lying. There was no court order to audit ballots. There's no law w at says a private company has to audit ballots so there's no court that can order Cyber Ninja's to do so.

I never said there was a law that requred cyber ninja to do the audit...why do you think there has to be a law for a Court to have an Order for someone to do something?

What I said was totally factual correct...the Senate speaking for the people that elected them order the audit, the Dems objected and filed a lawsuit..the Court speaking through it's Orders, Ordered the injuction the Dems requested, on condition they paid the company for money they would have lost preparing for the audit, and if they didn't Ordered the audit to continue

Utterly false. The Order does NOT require the audit to continue. It only states that the audit is to be stopped if the Democrats cover the costs.

The Court in no way opines as to whether or not the audit is legal or whether it is being done in accordance with state law. The Order only covers the circumstances under which the Democrats can force the audit to stop.

NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS. THE COURT REFUSED TO OPINE ON THE LEGALITY, NECESSITY OR EVEN WHETHER THE AUDIT IS LEGAL. NONE OF THE THINGS YOU'RE CLAIMING THE JUDGE ISSUED THE ORDER ABOUT.

and if they don’t it’s ordered to continue...hence why it’s going on!

again why are you so upset about the people of Arizona attempting to make sure their elections are done correctly?

why would the audit be illegal and why would the court opine on things even the dems didn’t raise in their request?

Your assumption is utterly and completely false. Not ordering it stop is not the same thing as ordering it to continue. If Democrats don't pay to stop the count, it's up to the Senate which ordered it what happens to the count.

The court very specifically did not make any other ruling on this legality of this audit other than the circumstances under which the Democrats could end it.

This audit is a massive waste of taxpayer dollars and regardless of what the "auditors" claim is the result, the audit will have no effect whatsoever, other than to make money for the auditors, and continue to spread lies and disinformation.

i made no assumptions just spoke facts

why are you talking about the legality of it? nobody even challenged that so why would the court address it?

the people of Arizona disagree with you view on its wastefulness and care about having a fair and accurate election.

“ The People”

No. The crazy Magarat Republicans

the people elected the senators and the senate ordered this audit. The people deserve to have a safe, accurate and fair election. They want to feel secure in that hence the audit.

why the dems would try to stop that or delay that is rather amazing...but unsurprising. Chaos, division, it’s the leftist way

They already have safe, accurate and fair elections. This audit was called for by a nutty handful of their Senators.

how do you know if we don’t have audits? you know what an audit is right?

Because we do have audits. These same Republican Senators complained last year and they got a recount. It was a partial recount based on a statistically significant portion of ballots. That turned up nothing. The Senate Republicans weren't happy about that so then they demanded an audit on the voting equipment. They got that too. That also turned up nothing. Remarkably, despite getting a recount and an audit, those Republican state Senators, still not happy, demanded and got yet another audit. That too turned up nothing. Were those Republican Senators happy after a count, a canvass, certification, a recount and 2 audits? No, they rejected all of that and demanded another audit. This time, Maricopa County election officials refused to cooperate. That led to where we are today.

So yes, I do know what an audit it. This is Arizona's third audit (plus a recount). Will Republicans demand a 4th if this turns up nothing?

Answers to your questions about the Arizona Senate's audit of 2020 election results in Maricopa County

The Arizona Republic answers reader questions about the Arizona Senate-ordered audit of Maricopa County's general election results.

www.azcentral.com

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Their questions remain after multiple lawsuits from the Trump campaign, the Arizona Republican Party and others claiming widespread fraud were dismissed and after multiple audits of Maricopa County results showed that votes were counted accurately and machines were not tampered with.​

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The county hand counted a statistically significant sampling of ballots and conducted two logic and accuracy tests of voting machines.​

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Representatives from all major political parties did a hand count of county ballots after the election. It looked at all votes cast for five races on 8,802 ballots — a statistically significant number of ballots, as state law requires. The audit showed that the county counted votes with 100% accuracy. The county would have expanded the audit if problems were found.​

a recount and an audit are two different things

The fact you have to explain that after 400+ posts gives you an idea of the mental giants we are dealing with.

it just shows a gross and purposeful detachment from reality

Oh? How does it show that?

haha

 

[struth]

i made no assumptions just spoke facts

why are you talking about the legality of it? nobody even challenged that so why would the court address it?

the people of Arizona disagree with you view on its wastefulness and care about having a fair and accurate election.

Ok, you've convinced me ... you're pathological.

You claim no one challenged the legality of the audit; but that too is a lie. Yes, there were some legal challenges, starting with...

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ah i missed that...and the Court ordered the audit to go on...so they lost.

Great, then post the court order showing the Democrats' lawsuit was dismissed....

You keep spouting lies as evidenced by your utter inability to provide any of the court documents of which you speak.

when did i de it was dismissed?

show me where is said it was dismissed...stop lying

You're so pathological, you don't know what you're saying.

You said the plaintiff lost. Democrats filed a lawsuit. Had they lost, their motion would have been dismissed. So yeah, claiming the lost is saying the case was dismissed.

well their goal was to stop the audit...it’s going on so they lost.

They won, their case in that the judge granted the injuction...but conditioned it on them putting their money where their mouth was...they didn’t...so the audit was ordered to continue.

I am not sure how this continues to go over your head

The legal battle isn't over yet. A lawsuit isn't lost until a judge says it is.

the audit is happening we will get the results. anything else is moot and a waste of time

Hopefully not. Hopefully the court will shut this nonsensical audit down.

they didn’t. they gave the dems a chance, but of course they didn’t put their money where their mouth is...and the audit is happening

LOL

It's not over yet. The court is still considering whether or not to shut it down. Why? Because you lied about the plaintiffs losing. In reality, the case hasn't been decided yet.

i never said the plaintiffs lost...the opposite i said they won the injuction...but the court ordered them to pay for the expenses of the auditor, and if they didn’t the audit to continue. They didn’t and the audit is under way.

whatever happens later isn’t relevant the audit will be done

LOL

You said...

ah i missed that...and the Court ordered the audit to go on...so they lost.​

... so who's "they" if not the plaintiffs?

yeah there goals were to stop the audit...they lost that. They however did when their injuction...albeit it turned out to be nothing but symbolic due to the brilliance of the judge that saw through the dems game of mere deflect and delay

So you were talking about the plaintiffs then. So why did you deny saying the plaintiffs lost?

i didn’t say they lost their lawsuit as you implied i said they lost getting their goal

 

[Faun]

i made no assumptions just spoke facts

why are you talking about the legality of it? nobody even challenged that so why would the court address it?

the people of Arizona disagree with you view on its wastefulness and care about having a fair and accurate election.

Ok, you've convinced me ... you're pathological.

You claim no one challenged the legality of the audit; but that too is a lie. Yes, there were some legal challenges, starting with...

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ah i missed that...and the Court ordered the audit to go on...so they lost.

Great, then post the court order showing the Democrats' lawsuit was dismissed....

You keep spouting lies as evidenced by your utter inability to provide any of the court documents of which you speak.

when did i de it was dismissed?

show me where is said it was dismissed...stop lying

You're so pathological, you don't know what you're saying.

You said the plaintiff lost. Democrats filed a lawsuit. Had they lost, their motion would have been dismissed. So yeah, claiming the lost is saying the case was dismissed.

well their goal was to stop the audit...it’s going on so they lost.

They won, their case in that the judge granted the injuction...but conditioned it on them putting their money where their mouth was...they didn’t...so the audit was ordered to continue.

I am not sure how this continues to go over your head

The legal battle isn't over yet. A lawsuit isn't lost until a judge says it is.

the audit is happening we will get the results. anything else is moot and a waste of time

Hopefully not. Hopefully the court will shut this nonsensical audit down.

they didn’t. they gave the dems a chance, but of course they didn’t put their money where their mouth is...and the audit is happening

LOL

It's not over yet. The court is still considering whether or not to shut it down. Why? Because you lied about the plaintiffs losing. In reality, the case hasn't been decided yet.

i never said the plaintiffs lost...the opposite i said they won the injuction...but the court ordered them to pay for the expenses of the auditor, and if they didn’t the audit to continue. They didn’t and the audit is under way.

whatever happens later isn’t relevant the audit will be done

LOL

You said...

ah i missed that...and the Court ordered the audit to go on...so they lost.​

... so who's "they" if not the plaintiffs?

yeah there goals were to stop the audit...they lost that. They however did when their injuction...albeit it turned out to be nothing but symbolic due to the brilliance of the judge that saw through the dems game of mere deflect and delay

So you were talking about the plaintiffs then. So why did you deny saying the plaintiffs lost?

i didn’t say they lost their lawsuit as you implied i said they lost getting their goal

Their lawsuit sought only one goal -- to stop the audit. So how on Earth could they lose that goal but not the lawsuit?

 

[Turtlesoup]

Trump cultists, be honest. Imagine that if, for the election or for one of the two non-fraudulent audits:

1. Only wild partisan Democrats were allowed to count.

2. Only wild partisan Democrats were allowed to observe.

3. Counting standards and procedures were kept completely secret.

4. Shocking violations of normal procedure were observed.

5. The only media allowed in was CNN.

In that case, would you be screaming it was a fraud? Of course you would, and you'd be justified. We'd be saying the same thing.

The exact same thing, mirrored, is happening now. Only OANN is allowed in. Only wild partisan Republicans are allowed to count and observe. It marks all the boxes for obvious fraud.

Why the wild double standard, Trump cultists?

No need to asnwer. We know why. You're all aware you're peddling a fraud here. The fraud is deliberate on your part. You think your fraud is justified, because you believe you have a divine right to rule, by hook or crook. Given that the whole world is laughing at how bad your obvious fraud attempt is, what's the point? It's not like anyone is unaware of your corruption.

Which isn't the case....

the dems and independent observers are observing...dems are whinning about everything...and have already stated what they really fear---which is that CyberNinjas has already said that they are going to go knock on the doors of what they believe are fraudulent voters thusly showing that the dems are lying cheating pieces of shit. The dems fear absolutely fucking fear the outing of fraudulent voters using fake addresses....so I think we all know what is really going on. All those FAKE CHINESE DRIVER's LICENSES for swing states that the CHINESE were snagged shipping over by the thousands----apparently weren't all stopped. Illegals not citizens voting----several dozen buddies using an address that they don't live at..... 10,000 is nothing and this affects more than Trumps race but other republicans in the states. Dems are such lying assholes....


"Ms. Karlan is also concerned with Cyber Ninja‘s tactics. The firm has pledged to “identify voter registrations that did not make sense, and then knock on doors to confirm if valid voters actually lived at the stated address.” Ms. Karlan said this “raises concerns regarding potential intimidation of voters,” which is prohibited by federal statutes.”

 

[mamooth]

dems are whinning about everything...and have already stated what they really fear---which is that CyberNinjas has already said that they are going to go knock on the doors

That's wildly illegal voter intimidation, and the feds told them so, causing your brownshit pals to back down.

of what they believe are fraudulent voters thusly showing that the dems are lying cheating pieces of shit. The dems fear absolutely fucking fear the outing of fraudulent voters using fake addresses....so I think we all know what is really going on. All those FAKE CHINESE DRIVER's LICENSES for swing states that the CHINESE were snagged shipping over by the thousands

Cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo, ...

It really shouldn't be up to me to stage these interventions. The people around you are the ones responsible for telling you that you're a babbling cult loon.

 

[Lastamender]

dems are whinning about everything...and have already stated what they really fear---which is that CyberNinjas has already said that they are going to go knock on the doors

That's wildly illegal voter intimidation, and the feds told them so, causing your brownshit pals to back down.

of what they believe are fraudulent voters thusly showing that the dems are lying cheating pieces of shit. The dems fear absolutely fucking fear the outing of fraudulent voters using fake addresses....so I think we all know what is really going on. All those FAKE CHINESE DRIVER's LICENSES for swing states that the CHINESE were snagged shipping over by the thousands

Cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo, ...

It really shouldn't be up to me to stage these interventions. The people around you are the ones responsible for telling you that you're a babbling cult loon.

Worried, huh?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Now you understand why the Dims didn't want to examine the ballots. If they audit all the toss-up states, then there will be a call for Biden to step down.

THIS IS HUGE! — BREAKING NEWS FROM ARIZONA AUDIT: The Number Of Illegal Votes In Maricopa County...​

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On Saturday, the Arizona forensic audit continued at the Veterans Memorial Coliseum in downtown Phoenix.​

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In Arizona, for months the Board of Supervisors in Maricopa County have complained about calls for a forensic review of the ballots in this large and crucial county.​

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The Board members guaranteed everything was fine but they won’t let anyone get close to their results.​

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They spent weeks after the election messing with ballots before they formally concluded the election results.​

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However, regardless of their efforts to prevent an audit of the Maricopa County results the forensic audit is now taking place at the Veterans Memorial Coliseum.​

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The audit is being live-streamed from 9 different angles from the arena floor at azaudit.org.​

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The election workers are running true forensic testing on the ballots!​

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Something HUGE is being revealed there right now!​

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Here’s what we’ve received on Sunday morning: ​

SNIP

Where there is smoke there is fire.

 

[Turtlesoup]

dems are whinning about everything...and have already stated what they really fear---which is that CyberNinjas has already said that they are going to go knock on the doors

That's wildly illegal voter intimidation, and the feds told them so, causing your brownshit pals to back down.

of what they believe are fraudulent voters thusly showing that the dems are lying cheating pieces of shit. The dems fear absolutely fucking fear the outing of fraudulent voters using fake addresses....so I think we all know what is really going on. All those FAKE CHINESE DRIVER's LICENSES for swing states that the CHINESE were snagged shipping over by the thousands

Cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo, ...

It really shouldn't be up to me to stage these interventions. The people around you are the ones responsible for telling you that you're a babbling cult loon.

Why are you babbling? Stop trying to blow smoke up peoples asses.

I just posted the comment for you to read......Do you know who Ms. Karlan is? Hmmmm???
"Ms. Karlan is also concerned with Cyber Ninja‘s tactics. The firm has pledged to “identify voter registrations that did
not make sense, and then knock on doors to confirm if valid voters actually lived at the stated address.” Ms. Karlan said this “raises concerns regarding potential intimidation of voters,” which is prohibited by federal statutes.”

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

this recound is bankrolled by OAN, so you can guess where its going.

These folks will buy it completely.

Then, when nothing happens, they'll be the victims of the Deep State Swamp Commies again, and it won't be surprising if they start planning more terrorist attacks.

Group pathology. Absolutely incredible.

It's an audit.

Audit

It’s a sham, a ridiculous rightwing contrivance, nothing but idiotic Republican political theater – not an ‘audit.’

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

These left wing cuck faggots know the election was stolen...now they are scared. They will attempt to discredit anyone involved with a recount rather than discussing facts.

Fuck them.

lol

Republicans are doing a fine job of discrediting themselves.

 

[edthecynic]

THIS IS HUGE! — BREAKING NEWS FROM ARIZONA AUDIT: The Number Of Illegal Votes In Maricopa County...

And every one was for Tramp. Prove me wrong.

 

[edthecynic]

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And all for Tramp. STOP TRAMP'S STEAL!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

this recound is bankrolled by OAN, so you can guess where its going.

These folks will buy it completely.

Then, when nothing happens, they'll be the victims of the Deep State Swamp Commies again, and it won't be surprising if they start planning more terrorist attacks.

Group pathology. Absolutely incredible.

It's an audit.

Audit

It’s a sham, a ridiculous rightwing contrivance, nothing but idiotic Republican political theater – not an ‘audit.’

"Truth does not mind being questioned, a Lie does not like being challenged"

 

[danielpalos]

this recound is bankrolled by OAN, so you can guess where its going.

These folks will buy it completely.

Then, when nothing happens, they'll be the victims of the Deep State Swamp Commies again, and it won't be surprising if they start planning more terrorist attacks.

Group pathology. Absolutely incredible.

It's an audit.

Audit

It’s a sham, a ridiculous rightwing contrivance, nothing but idiotic Republican political theater – not an ‘audit.’

"Truth does not mind being questioned, a Lie does not like being challenged"

There is no immigration clause in our federal Constitution, right-wingers. Be legal to the express law.

 

[dblack]

this recound is bankrolled by OAN, so you can guess where its going.

These folks will buy it completely.

Then, when nothing happens, they'll be the victims of the Deep State Swamp Commies again, and it won't be surprising if they start planning more terrorist attacks.

Group pathology. Absolutely incredible.

It's an audit.

Audit

It’s a sham, a ridiculous rightwing contrivance, nothing but idiotic Republican political theater – not an ‘audit.’

"Truth does not mind being questioned, a Lie does not like being challenged"

There is no immigration clause in our federal Constitution, right-wingers. Be legal to the express law.

What the FUCK is an "immigration clause" stoner boy?