This is a thread for those on the RIGHT to unequivocally condemn the racism, white supremacy, fascism, antisemitism, and bigotry of Charlie Kirk.

[Correll]

But he said 'Black women', not 'these Black women'. He was a racist, sexist piece of shit.

You are clearly lying.

 

[SweetTea]

You ever hear the saying there is no such thing as being "a little bit pregnant"? Well, the same thing is true when it comes to racism. There is no such thing as a person being "a little bit racist". A white person either believes, by virtue of their race, they are superior to Black people — or they don’t. That’s what makes someone a racist or a white supremacist. It’s not about tone or context; it’s about the underlying belief.

That’s why it’s absurd when anyone questions the competency of Black airline pilots in the context of DEI or affirmative action. They’re not exposing some weakness in Black professionals — they’re exposing their own ignorance. Pilot proficiency is set by the Federal Aviation Regulations (FARs). Every pilot, regardless of race, meets the exact same standards. Period.

So when a white person tries to diminish a Black pilot’s achievement with a DEI jab, they’re not exposing a weakness in Black professionals — they’re exposing their own ignorance. They’ve just revealed that deep down, they still see themselves as superior — and that is the very definition of racism.

And what makes it even more absurd is this: they cling to those prejudices when all the evidence before them points to the contrary.

The issue is not about qualified, it is about the most qualified. One person can meet the requirements to graduate from college with a C average. Another can meet the requirements to graduate with an A average. One may be more qualified than the other even though they both met the standard. When race is prioritized in hiring, the C student may very well be hired over the A student. That is not to say that minorities that are hired are necessarily the C student. They very well may be the A student. The problem is we don't know that. Giving preferential treatment based on race naturally creates skepticism.

 

[Correll]

The issue is not about qualified, it is about the most qualified. One person can meet the requirements to graduate from college with a C average. Another can meet the requirements to graduate with an A average. One may be more qualified than the other even though they both met the standard. When race is prioritized in hiring, the C student may very well be hired over the A student. That is not to say that minorities that are hired are necessarily the C student. They very well may be the A student. The problem is we don't know that. Giving preferential treatment based on race naturally creates skepticism.

And that is not racism, but simply being aware of the stated policy.

Lefties lie. It is the only way to defend their policies.

 

[SweetTea]

Affirmative action allowed the formation of black admission cut-offs and white admission cut-offs. Grades and scores that allowed in 80% of blacks to med school allowed in less than 30% of whites.

IOW, blacks with a specific MCAT/GPA were almost 3x as likely to get accepted to med school than whites with those metrics. In fact, most blacks with mediocre still got accepted, whereas only 6% of Asians and 8% of whites got in.

Affirmative action has always been a racist policy. Opposing racist policies like AA does not make one a racist. To the contrary, supporting it does.

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My wife can attest to this. Her minority roommate in college was accepted into a certain medical school with a lower GPA, a significantly lower MCAT score and only one of my wife's double majors while my wife was wait listed at that particular medical school. Happened all the time and it was even more egregious at the top level schools because there were far few minorities that actually qualified based on merit as compared to the entire pool of applicants, so many exceptions had to be made.

Your chart is very telling. A black person with a 3.20 GPA and an MCAT score of 24-26 had a better than average chance of being accepted while an Asian and white person both had very little. That is wrong, no matter how the left wants to defend it.

 

[Lisa558]

My wife can attest to this. Her minority roommate in college was accepted into a certain medical school with a lower GPA, a significantly lower MCAT score and only one of my wife's double majors while my wife was wait listed at that particular medical school. Happened all the time and it was even more egregious at the top level schools because there were far few minorities that actually qualified based on merit as compared to the entire pool of applicants, so many exceptions had to be made.

Your chart is very telling. A black person with a 3.20 GPA and an MCAT score of 24-26 had a better than average chance of being accepted while an Asian and white person both had very little. That is wrong, no matter how the left wants to defend it.

I worked in admissions. Believe me, I know how it works.

The final straw was when the admissions committee rejected a Jewish boy with a high GPA and test score - whose mother died when he was 13 - in favor of a black applicant with significantly worse metrics because they “still needed more blacks.”

 

[dblack]

The issue is not about qualified, it is about the most qualified. One person can meet the requirements to graduate from college with a C average. Another can meet the requirements to graduate with an A average. One may be more qualified than the other even though they both met the standard. When race is prioritized in hiring, the C student may very well be hired over the A student. That is not to say that minorities that are hired are necessarily the C student. They very well may be the A student. The problem is we don't know that. Giving preferential treatment based on race naturally creates skepticism.

The sad thing is, they'e created an atmosphere were we can't even talk about it. Most people don't dare to question the conventional wisdom lest they be labeled a racist and cancelled. And apparently the definition of "cancelled" has been expanded to include murder.

 

[Lisa558]

The sad thing is, they'e created an atmosphere were we can't even talk about it. Most people don't dare to question the conventional wisdom lest they be labeled a racist and cancelled. And apparently the definition of "cancelled" has be expanded to include murder.

Believe me, the leftists want to hide it. When someone reveals it, they are called a “racist ****” and accused of making up stats.

 

[Correll]

I worked in admissions. Believe me, I know how it works.

The final straw was when the admissions committee rejected a Jewish boy with a high GPA and test score - whose mother died when he was 13 - in favor of a black applicant with significantly worse metrics because they “still needed more blacks.”

It is shameful that this country put up with this shit as long as we did.


And it is more shameful that many still want to keep doing it.

 

[Lisa558]

It is shameful that this country put up with this shit as long as we did.


And it is more shameful that many still want to keep doing it.

They’re finding out, though, that screaming “racist ****!” at people who object to racial discrimination isn’t working anymore.

 

[Correll]

They’re finding out, though, that screaming “racist ****!” at people who object to racial discrimination isn’t working anymore.

It seems to be very painful for them, for it to just stop working.

 

[dblack]

It is shameful that this country put up with this shit as long as we did.


And it is more shameful that many still want to keep doing it.

The problem is that we've tried to make racism illegal. We've tried to outlaw ideas and opinions the government doesn't like. That doesn't work in a free society.

I respect the series of events that led to the bad policies. Our nation had a gaping wound in the aftermath of the Civil War and the end of slavery. I can understand the urge to reach for extreme policies as a patch. But it behooves us to revisit these emergency decisions and give more consideration to whether they add up in the long run.

Racial justice advocates pushed through policies that were overreaching (the Civil Rights Act). They seemed necessary at the time, but they put government in the role of telling people what opinions they could have and what opinions were forbidden. Told them who they must associated with and who they were allowed to reject, and for what reasons.

And, as is often the case, the power to mandate behavior regarding race, was expanded. "Racism" changed to "discrimination", and later to "equity". What began as a flawed solution to a specific problem, grew into a social engineering tool open to anyone with an agenda. And a movement grounded in the concept of equal rights under the law - a founding principle that precious few Americans will reject - reversed course, adopting "equity" (the opposite of equal rights) as their calling card instead.

Essentially, socialists co-opted the fight against racism to serve their own interests.

 

[HikerGuy83]

@IM2 is posting lies

Yes.....

Well it might be said......

How can you tell if IM2 stupid is lying........

Answer: He's posting (equivalent to "his lips are moving")

 

[HikerGuy83]

I respect the series of events that led to the bad policies. Our nation had a gaping wound in the aftermath of the Civil War and the end of slavery. I can understand the urge to reach for extreme policies as a patch. But it behooves us to revisit these emergency decisions and give more consideration to whether they add up in the long run.

Amen.

Time to rewrite the 14th amendment to make it clear and end incorporation.

 

[dblack]

Amen.

Time to rewrite the 14th amendment to make it clear and end incorporation.

"Incorporation"?

 

[HikerGuy83]

"Incorporation"?

Selective incorporation of the Bill of Rights.

In the 1930's the black robes (those unelected idiots appointed by FDR) decided that they needed to force the Bill of Rights on the states (as it was, the BOR only applied to the federal government) in effect, incorporating them into state policy without them being allowed to decide.

I am all for freedom....the freedom of the states to decide.

People will clamor that the 2nd always was incorporated....which is baloney. 44 of the states have similar language in their state constitutions because they knew the states could exercise gun control at the state level.

 

[dblack]

"Incorporation"?

Googled. States rights are important, but I don't really have a problem with extending Constitutional protection of civil liberties to the states. The federal government is basically saying, "If you want to be on our team, you need to adhere to these basic principles". I say that with the recognition that the federal government has become far too large, far too intrusive and far too ambitious with social engineering.

 

[Hafar1014]

And here we see an example of the flawed racist thinking about this policy. Affirmative Action allowed qualified blacks to get jobs that formerly unqualified whites were hired to do . Furthermore, the main recipients of this policy were white women. So every time a comment is made, such as the quote, it is evidence of that person's racism.

Now I find it funny that someone such as Charlie Kirk ran his mouth about people's qualifications because he dropped out of Junior college. The only way he was able to accumulate wealth was by peddling white grievance. His skill and education meant that he should have been working at a drive-thru window or washing dishes. Instead, he sold his soul to Satan, and that ended badly for him.

"For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?"

Affirmative action ow illegal lowered standards to meet quotas. DEI is the same idiotic process.

 

[HikerGuy83]

The federal government is basically saying, "If you want to be on our team, you need to adhere to these basic principles".

The federal government exists because of the state governments. Not the other way around.

The federal government was established for a specific purpose.

Playing mother was not it.

I say that with the recognition that the federal government has become far too large, far too intrusive and far too ambitious with social engineering.

Which is just what the founders tried to protect from happening.

The 17th amendment pretty much killed that.

 

[Woodznutz]

People have demanded condemnation from the left because they saw a video of people celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk. Perhaps what needs to be condemned are the things Kirk said and believed. So let's see the right condemn the racism, white supremacy, fascism, antisemitism, sexism, homophobia, and bigotry spoken by Charlie Kirk.

• During a heated exchange on Jubilee’s Surrounded, he claimed Black people were “better” in the 1940s. “They were actually better in the 1940s. It was bad. It was evil. But what happened? Something changed. They committed less crimes… Black America is worse than it has been in the last 80 years.”
• On his radio show, he claimed Joy Reid, Michelle Obama, Sheila Jackson Lee, and Ketanji Brown Jackson were “affirmative action picks” and went further, “Black women do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.”
• After Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s engagement, he fantasized about her becoming more conservative. “Submit to your husband, Taylor. You’re not in charge.”

Charlie Kirk's bodyguards ‘definitely’ made hand signals before UVU shooting; here's what they meant

Charlie Kirk's bodyguards used deliberate hand signals before his assassination at Utah Valley University, as confirmed by a security expert.

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Black people​

• “Happening all the time in urban America, prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact. It’s happening more and more.” (source)

Black pilots​

• “If I see a Black pilot, I’m gonna be like, ’Boy, I hope he’s qualified.’” (source)

Black women​

• “They're coming out, and they're saying, 'I'm only here because of affirmative action.' Yeah, we know. You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person's slot to go be taken somewhat seriously."

Civil rights​

• “We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the mid-1960s.” (source)

The death penalty​

• "[The death penalty] should be public, should be quick, should be televised… I think at a certain age, it’s an initiation… At what age should you start to see public executions?" (source)

Democrats​

• “The Democrat Party supports everything that God hates.” (source)

Empathy​

• "I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made up new age term that does a lot of damage." (source)

Feminism​

• “Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You're not in charge." (source)

Gay people​

• “You might want to crack open that Bible of yours. In a lesser referenced part of the same part of scripture, is in Leviticus 18 is that, ‘thou shalt lay with another man shall be stoned to death.’ Just sayin’! So Miss Rachel, you quote Leviticus 19… the chapter before affirms God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters.” (source)

George Floyd​

• “This guy was a scumbag.” (source)

Great Replacement Theory​

• “It's not a Great Replacement Theory, it's a Great Replacement Reality. Just this year, 3.6 million foreigners will invade America. 10-15 million will enter by the end of Joe Biden's term. Each will probably have 3-5 kids on average while native born Americans have 1.5 per couple. You are being replaced, by design.” (source)

Guns​

• “It’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment.” (source)

Jews​

• “Jewish donors have been the number one funding mechanism of radical open-border, neoliberal, quasi-Marxist policies, cultural institutions and nonprofits. This is a beast created by secular Jews and now it’s coming for Jews, and they're like, ‘What on Earth happened?’ And it's not just the colleges. It's the nonprofits, it's the movies, it's Hollywood, it's all of it.” (source)

Martin Luther King Jr.​

• “MLK was awful. He's not a good person. He said one good thing he actually didn't believe.” (source)

Muslims​

• “They aren’t even hiding their intentions. Muslims plan to conquer Europe by demographic replacement. Will Europe wake up in time?” (source)

Palestine​

• “I don’t think the place exists.” (source)

Transgender people​

• “You’re an abomination to God.” (source)

Charlie Kirk in His Own Words

17 quotes you should read from the right-wing activist and Trump ally who was tragically shot and killed on Wednesday in Utah.

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Kirk was like Rush; he voiced what many people are thinking.

 

[Woodznutz]

Many DEI students are directed to the easier public service courses. Not a problem as those positions need to be filled by someone. If they can do the job and are satisfied with the pay, win/win.