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Iran leaders expect what?Iran's leaders expect this, nothing else matters.
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Iran leaders expect what?Iran's leaders expect this, nothing else matters.
There is some controversy and a lot of questions about the Iranian Islamic revolution, and how it occurred.They don't have the guns.
I already established that you were wrong. And you still are."Judge" in this case means "don't CONDEMN to hell."
You can't win these arguments, because your understanding is flawed.
32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
What is your opinion on US support for Israel. And your opinion on the war between Israel and Palestine?I already established that you were wrong. And you still are.
Consider:
Matthew 10: King James Version
Would It be fair to deny that Trump has proclaimed himself a Christian?
Charlie Kirk said October 7 may have included a standdown order being given by the IDF. Many people in Israel interviewed on camera have had the same concerns. In the most monitored area of the world to not have these concerns is juvenile.I had a feeling from the start that the October 7 thing was going to lead to a wider war in the Middle East. I posted that a few times. And here we are.
I know this is an extremely unpopular opinion around here, but I think all of these things are planned.
What state are you in? Wow you gave out your number ? . Maybe if I am ever buy you. I’ll take you out for a nice steak dinner.Run kid. 402-238-8334 What are you afraid of?
Calm down now. I’m not saying “you’re on the side of rapists” even though it’s a fact, some Ukrainian men like men in every country have committed sexual assault.I can’t figure out why you keep calling me out. Every time you do and I respond I beat you up and you run off and start a new thread pretending that it hasn’t happened.
Want to know how I feel? Well gee. Our entire Space Program was run by former Nazi’s led by Werner Von Braun. Hell Huntsville Alabama was wall to wall with former Nazi’s. And it was a lot sooner than eighty years later.
That is hilarious to me. I’m supposed to ignore and forgive actions the Russians committed eight days ago but be wrapped around the axle about what happened eighty years ago. That doesn’t make much sense does it?
But let’s discuss. You want me to turn my back on Israel and Ukraine. No. Not even close. Zero chance. Zip.
Not surprisingly you are on the side of rapists and torturing barbarians.
Let me restate my position. I will never again forgive Russia. I will never again give Russia the benefit of the doubt. I will weekly write my elected officials and remind them of the barbaric behavior of Russia. From now to my dying day they are the enemy.
Stuff happens. No worries over any confusion.What is your opinion on US support for Israel. And your opinion on the war between Israel and Palestine?
I think I mixed you up with a different poster. Sorry about that. Looking forward to a quality discussion.
Yes, he has. But he isn't. But neither is Joe Biden. By their own mouthesI already established that you were wrong. And you still are.
Consider:
Matthew 10: King James Version
Would It be fair to deny that Trump has proclaimed himself a Christian?
Why do you ignore what He said in verse 37 and beyond?I already established that you were wrong. And you still are.
Consider:
Matthew 10: King James Version
Would It be fair to deny that Trump has proclaimed himself a Christian?
Lots of gaslighting has been done by fanatical supporters of Israel. Meaning while 30,000 Palestinians have been killed they keep talking about October 7 which was very controversial anyways. Many people in Israel think it was a false flag of some sorts or a stand down order was given. But either way the Israel Palestine conflict goes way back before October 7 anyways. The other gaslighting are the pro Israel folks complaining about “antisemitism in the USA” in other words pot smoking lefty hippies yelling something at people by a synagogue or something like that while 30,000 Palestinians, including Palestinian Christians have been killed by (some while hiding in a church) by the IDF.
But main point this is now turning into something that conservatives or Trump leaning people like Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, and Joe Rogan are getting into.
The gaslighting Has to stop from some segment of the pro Israel people. It diminishes the many honorable Jewish people fighting for the IDF. And the honorable people in the IDF themselves have even been critical of their government. Of the stupidity of the whole thing.
But regardless of my opinions, this is a game changer what Joe Rogan is saying. His audience is in the many millions. Same thing with Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson who are not peddling a pro Israel line, but one of neutrality and caring about Palestinian civilians, which is in line with Christian values. Especially when we’re talking about Palestinian people which include some of the earliest Christian people who lived among Jesus.
Charlie Kirk said October 7 may have included a standdown order being given by the IDF. Many people in Israel interviewed on camera have had the same concerns. In the most monitored area of the world to not have these concerns is juvenile
I see a small portion of Israel, supporters, engaging in annoying, BLM tactics, accusing anyone who disagrees with them, or doesn’t go along with their narrative is being racist. That is poor behavior, and against Christianity.
It’s not for us to judge.Yes, he has. But he isn't. But neither is Joe Biden. By their own mouthes
Why do you ignore what He said in verse 37 and beyond?
Has Trump done any of these things? "Acknowledgement" is only the beginning.
37 “Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38 Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39 Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it.
Has Trump "lost his life" for Christ sake?
You need to read ALL Scripture in CONTEXT.
Do you know there is a BIBLICAL DEFINITION of a Christian?
Here it is: "if anyone has not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His"
"FDR" would think differently if HIS family were the victim of the "crime" (act of war) Israel endured.Stuff happens. No worries over any confusion.
My views are my own and I tend to try to be open minded about these things.
Most simply put: I see zero reason for denying the rightmost exist as a nation.
As a nation, accordingly, it has a right to self defense. Hamas has insidiously and deliberately sought to kill Israelis because of abject unreasoning hatred (not just hatred of Jews as Jews, but for other ignorant reasons, too).
Since Hamas tries to actively secure itself by hiding within the Palestinian lands, like Gaza, amongst the Palestinian peoples, it is almost impossible to eradicate Hamas without endangering and even killing Palestinian people.
So what is Israel supposed to do when attacked like on October 7. Toss up their hands and say, “sorry; we can’t possibly root out that Hamas cancer”?
All war sucks. When the Nazis bombed London, perfectly innocent British folks got killed. When the Romans attacked an enemy, they also raped its women, took them off as war bounty, murdered citizens, razed towns and cities and planted salt in cultivatable lands to deny them grains and food. They weren’t alone. We fire bombed Dresden and large swaths of Japan. We even nuked a couple of cities, there.
I applaud none of that. But I do recognize that war is war. And war is evil and horrifying. But there a still an obligation to defend one’s own people.
Any thinking person with any kind of humanity (heart) has to grieve for injured Palestinian people and a starving population. But again: my question remains. What is Israel supposed to do instead?
I don’t know the figures. I do suspect that there are plenty of Hamas sympathizers in the Palestinian Territories. As such, I can’t pretend I care what happens to them."FDR" would think differently if HIS family were the victim of the "crime" (act of war) Israel endured.
How many know Gazan "citizens" took part in these rapes, murders and KIDNAPPINGS and sold their captives to Hamas. There is a collective guilty with these people and they're going to rightly pay until these people are returned.
You're being misled. I know this because you are willingly misled up to this point on this topic.Yeah, contrary to what has been claimed on this thread, there is definitely evidence that there's more to what happened that day than the official story.
And I don't say that lightly.
As an INTP, things have to make logical sense to me. When it comes to coincidences, if there's only one or two... or maybe even three, then it's probably just coincidence. But when you have a whole slew of coincidences, that's a different story. There are way too many 'coincidences' and anomalies about the whole thing.
Btw, I'm actually just starting a specific study on the topic of the modern state of Israel, on the question of whether or not it's the same Israel the bible is speaking about in prophetic scriptures. And I've only just begun the study, but already I'm learning things that are mind-blowing to me.
It's too early for me to conclude anything, but so far what I've been learning points to the whole modern state of Israel being a deception, from a biblical standpoint.
That is not to say that there isn't a remnant within the modern state of Israel that is part of true Israel. But I'm talking about the nation as a whole.
And now I'll get ready for the inevitable wrath that is sure to come from just saying that. Better put on my flame suit.
Thank you. The situation goes far back before October 7. On Camera Jewish men have bragged about sexually assaulting Palestine in women and have laughed about it. That is like a whole Nother level of being a demon.Stuff happens. No worries over any confusion.
My views are my own and I tend to try to be open minded about these things.
Most simply put: I see zero reason for denying the rightmost exist as a nation.
As a nation, accordingly, it has a right to self defense. Hamas has insidiously and deliberately sought to kill Israelis because of abject unreasoning hatred (not just hatred of Jews as Jews, but for other ignorant reasons, too).
Since Hamas tries to actively secure itself by hiding within the Palestinian lands, like Gaza, amongst the Palestinian peoples, it is almost impossible to eradicate Hamas without endangering and even killing Palestinian people.
So what is Israel supposed to do when attacked like on October 7. Toss up their hands and say, “sorry; we can’t possibly root out that Hamas cancer”?
All war sucks. When the Nazis bombed London, perfectly innocent British folks got killed. When the Romans attacked an enemy, they also raped its women, took them off as war bounty, murdered citizens, razed towns and cities and planted salt in cultivatable lands to deny them grains and food. They weren’t alone. We fire bombed Dresden and large swaths of Japan. We even nuked a couple of cities, there.
I applaud none of that. But I do recognize that war is war. And war is evil and horrifying. But there a still an obligation to defend one’s own people.
Any thinking person with any kind of humanity (heart) has to grieve for injured Palestinian people and a starving population. But again: my question remains. What is Israel supposed to do instead?
Thank you. The situation goes far back before October 7. On Camera Jewish men have bragged about sexually assaulting Palestine in women and have laughed about it. That is like a whole Nother level of being a demon.
That’s from an Israeli documentary, by the way… it is shocking.
Do you have any videos of Hamas militants bragging about sexually assaulting israeli women?
In any event, there are some very important points to consider about October 7. First of all what happened before then many years of conflict between the two countries. And it’s blatantly obvious there’s good and bad people on both sides of Israel and Palestine. There are many Palestinian Christians throughout the 20th century who supported Arab nationalism and war against Israel. This is also therefore not a Muslim versus Jewish thing. Christians are included.
But as you know conservatives in America, like Charlie Kirk and even people in Israel have questioned what in the world happened on October 7 …. was it allowed to happen in the first place. How could the most monitored area in the world see such an attack. Was a stand down order given by rogue elements of the IDF? But one point to be made even if a standdown order was given, there were barbaric evil acts reportedly committed by some of the Hamas members. And God will hold them accountable just like our Lord will hold accountable. Any israeli man or any man in the world who committed a terrible sin.
Israel has so-called hostages in their jails even Palestinian kids. So when we talk about israeli hostages Well, there’s also Palestinian hostages.
So I am not convinced that Israel or Palestine, or morally better than each other. So would actually be engaging in some sort of racism in my opinion. That’s not productive. Now it is common sense and obvious that there are tons of people in Israel in Palestine, who are neutral who don’t want any part of a war they’re human beings like all of us.
One point is if this is about morals. Why isn’t the USA doing something to end slavery in Africa. ?
Another point Israel has already destroyed. Gaza, they’ve killed 30,000 Palestinians. So we should not give any money to Israel, Ukraine, Russia, or Palestine at this point. You see that’s the other point American people are struggling they are poor. We need to fix our problems in America. Other people in this thread have mentioned that that America should not be the world’s police right now.
But yea going back to the other point. I think a lot of people in the media are gaslighting us. Saying things like “what is Israel supposed to do.”
Well let’s back up a second. Israel has already done whatever it wanted to do in Gaza they’ve destroyed the place. They’ve made tons of Palestinians homeless they’ve killed up to 30,000 Palestinians. They are in control of the situation.
Hamas leaders are cowards I will give you that they are hiding in wealthy areas of Qatar. While honorable Palestinians are taking up the rifle fighting for their home.
Are some Palestinians throughout the history also criminals? yes. Same thing could be said for some israelis , but not all of them from both sides.
You're being misled. I know this because you are willingly misled up to this point on this topic.
Israel (specifically the Tribe of Judah) was prophesied to return to the Land of Israel after 2520 years in exile. That came true in '48. You need to stick close to the trunk of the tree and not be swayed by demonic theories.
I generally like Rogan. But I don't worship the guy. Sometimes he's actually wrongThe world has been holding its breath waiting to hear what Joe Rogan thought about this war.
You're lightly dismissing what I've provided. The FACT is, Israel (not the Jews) went into captivity and were eventually SCATTERED NORTHWEST. These became the "Lost Tribes of Israel.". After that, Judah (the Jews) were also driven out and went into Babylon (though there was always a REMNANT) in the Land of Israel. They were prophesied to be exiled for 2520 years.I'm not going to argue about this right now, because as I just finished saying, I just started a specific study on this topic, and I want to complete the study before I get into any discussions or debates on it.
But no, truth is the most important thing to me, so I am doing this study prayerfully and carefully. I don't automatically believe the MSM, but I also don't automatically believe what a pastor or researcher or anyone says on the internet. It all has to add up and most importantly it has to be scriptural.