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I am totally ignoring polls. It is obvious the games they play. They've been trying to demotivated Trump support for months with the ridiculous notion that that Senile old man has an actual followingAny poll of LIKELY VOTERS in a true battleground state that doesn't have the race within 5% either way should be discarded.
There are no intellectual Trump supporters who look at what he proposes and takes it seriously...much less believes it. His campaign commercials have gotten more brazenly crazy about how he will "create" 10M jobs in 10 months. There may be 10 million more people working now than there is in January 2021...he will have created very few of those jobs.
Its just one lie after another. And there are a lot of voters who disregard what they know lies. Which is why this is a closer race than it should be. Such is our system.
Sane folks KNOW we have a clear choiceTiered Voting un-fucks us from the two-party system which leaves most sane folks feeling like they had no viable choices.
A majority of the country doesn't "follow" anyone.They've been trying to demotivated Trump support for months with the ridiculous notion that that Senile old man has an actual following
I'm a fan of a tiered Voting system. I only learned about it this year watching some theoretical physicists (ironically) go off on a tangent about Politics during their discussion on the fundamental make-up of the Universe(lol).
Tiered Voting un-fucks us from the two-party system which leaves most sane folks feeling like they had no viable choices. There's a lot of built-in incongruities that it takes care of.
I don't think so...I think they're cautiously optimistic and slightly naïve. Life hasn't actually changed all that much over the course of modern Presidents, in perspective. Most of the change is merely in what people are whining about. Typically, people on the fringes.Sane folks KNOW we have a clear choiceTiered Voting un-fucks us from the two-party system which leaves most sane folks feeling like they had no viable choices.
In strictly pragmatic terms, the more choice the better the outcome in terms of quality. Of course the world isn't so black and white and there's other factors at play, but to me...it's certainly a step in the right direction and I have more confidence that folks would, indeed, give thought to their second and third choices just like they do for MVP Voting in sports...considering candidates in job interviews...choices of schools and Counties to live in, etc.I'm a fan of a tiered Voting system. I only learned about it this year watching some theoretical physicists (ironically) go off on a tangent about Politics during their discussion on the fundamental make-up of the Universe(lol).
Tiered Voting un-fucks us from the two-party system which leaves most sane folks feeling like they had no viable choices. There's a lot of built-in incongruities that it takes care of.
I would much, much rather see a system of runoff elections than tiered. I don't think people will give as much thought to their second choice and they will end up with some weird results.
Let's take 1992 as an example. If you had a runoff, Perot would have been eliminated in the first round. Then it would have been a straight up race between Clinton and Bush, both of whom would have to actually address the issues that Perot's voters were concerned about, mostly the debt and NAFTA being their big issues.
Instead, what you had was Bush supporting NAFTA, Perot opposing it and Clinton, being as slick as he often was, playing both sides before selling out on the issue. A straight up fight to appeal to those voters in a second round would have brought clarity to the issue.
You are one-in-a-million, CC.Any poll of LIKELY VOTERS in a true battleground state that doesn't have the race within 5% either way should be discarded.
No he’s notIt’s not even going to be close.. Democrats are extremely over sampled in every poll these polls are only meant to be morphine for your painAny poll of LIKELY VOTERS in a true battleground state that doesn't have the race within 5% either way should be discarded.
They are not. Trump is facing massive defections from 2016 with suburban voters.
There's also the fact that a lot of polls in 2016 were not all that far off. They had Hillary ahead by slightly above the margin of error, she won the popular Vote to right at the edge of the margin of error, and they over-sampled the College Educated which tend to lean Democratic.You are one-in-a-million, CC.Any poll of LIKELY VOTERS in a true battleground state that doesn't have the race within 5% either way should be discarded.
Yeah... we know even legit pollsters struggle to measure support for Trump - as we saw in 2016 - and many don't really seem to try.
There is a political agenda in everything these days ... except fishing.
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/——/ Why? Because it doesn’t fit your narrative?Any poll of LIKELY VOTERS in a true battleground state that doesn't have the race within 5% either way should be discarded.
There are no intellectual Trump supporters who look at what he proposes and takes it seriously...much less believes it. His campaign commercials have gotten more brazenly crazy about how he will "create" 10M jobs in 10 months. There may be 10 million more people working now than there is in January 2021...he will have created very few of those jobs.
Its just one lie after another. And there are a lot of voters who disregard what they know lies. Which is why this is a closer race than it should be. Such is our system.
I think it's more along the lines of the people who voted for Trump last time just can't admit they made a mistake.
No matter how bad he messes things up.
The key thing about the other incumbents who lost (Discounting Ford, who was never elected to start with) was that a viable third party allows you to not vote for the incumbent without admitting you made a mistake. A lot of liberals voted for Anderson and a lot of conservatives voted for Perot, which allowed them deniability.
I do think that no matter how this turns out, Trump will still get 45% of the vote. That's the Republican Floor.
It won't be enough, though, because Biden will get at least 51% and will win at least the Rust Belt Three. You won't see as many people staying home and you won't see as many people wasting their votes on third parties.
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/——/ Why? Because it doesn’t fit your narrative?Any poll of LIKELY VOTERS in a true battleground state that doesn't have the race within 5% either way should be discarded.
Such hate. Shame on your potty mouth.You fucking morons don't hate polls. You hate poll results.....sometimes.
So we can quote you after the election results ?My narrative is that this is a close election. It fits my narrative just right.
I tend to think same...but it's due to jade and some other things that I'm not allowing the optimism to seep through. The buzz out there is that most folks are sick and fuckin tired of not just Trump himself...but hearing about Trump...seeing Trump, how polarized he makes everything...etc, it really seems like a fed-up with Trump electorate this year and I hope for a humongoid landslide...but I'm kind of thinking it's going to be close, and close isn't good based on Bubble-butt's rhetoric on the process./——/ Why? Because it doesn’t fit your narrative?Any poll of LIKELY VOTERS in a true battleground state that doesn't have the race within 5% either way should be discarded.
My narrative is that this is a close election. It fits my narrative just right.
We shall see.I tend to think same...but it's due to jade and some other things that I'm not allowing the optimism to seep through. The buzz out there is that most folks are sick and fuckin tired of not just Trump himself...but hearing about Trump...seeing Trump, how polarized he makes everything...etc, it really seems like a fed-up with Trump electorate this year and I hope for a humongoid landslide...but I'm kind of thinking it's going to be close, and close isn't good based on Bubble-butt's rhetoric on the process./——/ Why? Because it doesn’t fit your narrative?Any poll of LIKELY VOTERS in a true battleground state that doesn't have the race within 5% either way should be discarded.
My narrative is that this is a close election. It fits my narrative just right.
Trombies?? You really should check your psychosis at the door when you post about others.While I understand that it is a certain type of psychosis, I am still weirded out by the fact that Trombies...
/——/ And folks, this is the morning update direct from LiberalPropagandaville.I tend to think same...but it's due to jade and some other things that I'm not allowing the optimism to seep through. The buzz out there is that most folks are sick and fuckin tired of not just Trump himself...but hearing about Trump...seeing Trump, how polarized he makes everything...etc, it really seems like a fed-up with Trump electorate this year and I hope for a humongoid landslide...but I'm kind of thinking it's going to be close, and close isn't good based on Bubble-butt's rhetoric on the process./——/ Why? Because it doesn’t fit your narrative?Any poll of LIKELY VOTERS in a true battleground state that doesn't have the race within 5% either way should be discarded.
My narrative is that this is a close election. It fits my narrative just right.
