This global warming is killing us!!

[Fort Fun Indiana]

One must know the difference between a lie and the truth

Is that what you say in the mirror, after getting laughed out of a 10th grade science class for your silly beliefs?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

He always was, many are now simply pissed because he supports somebody they hate.

I think the revelations of white supremacy, misogyny, etc also come into play.

And then there was that time when the richest man in the planet immediately used his illegally bestowed government power to harm the poorest peole on the planet.

He's like a poorly written B-Movie villain.

 

[Stryder50]

Of course, you would rather be ignorant and wrong, so you dont stand out from the other sheep in your cult.

I get it.

I prefer real science, not selective data given a political spin.

The sheep in a cult are you enviro-nazis who are buying into the scam.

You are still here and emitting CO2, so obviously you don't take your sham for real.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

prefer real science, not selective data given a political spin.

Oh, so that's why you don't know and have never read any.

Uh huh.

We all look forward to your published science that contradicts the overwhelming consensus.

See you in never.

 

[Stryder50]

Oh, so that's why you don't know and have never read any.

Uh huh.

We all look forward to your published science that contradicts the overwhelming consensus.

See you in never.

This from your profile shows you are gutless and ignorant;

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Of no value in listening to.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

This from your profile shows you are gutless and ignorant;

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Of no value in listening to.

So this is your newest excuse for being a an aggressively ignorant fool who would get laughed out of a 10th grade science class.

Whatever floats your boat.

 

[Mushroom]

I think the revelations of white supremacy, misogyny, etc also come into play.

That is all linked to the other. And is a pattern I have seen happen all to often.

What, you think things like that only appeared in 2024? People were more than willing to overlook anything he did, so long as he appeared to be "one of them". It was only when it was clear he was not that the knives came out.

 

[Old Rocks]

Consensus is not science.
At most consensus is politics.

When the evidence is overwhelming, there is consensus. And there are a number of things in science where the evidence is overwhelming. Such as evolution, AGW, how GHG's work, and the fact that MAGA people are not only willfully ignorant, but stupid to boot. LOL

 

[Old Rocks]

I think the revelations of white supremacy, misogyny, etc also come into play.

And then there was that time when the richest man in the planet immediately used his illegally bestowed government power to harm the poorest peole on the planet.

He's like a poorly written B-Movie villain.

Elon Musk is proof of the existence of evil geniuses.

 

[Old Rocks]

I prefer real science, not selective data given a political spin.

The sheep in a cult are you enviro-nazis who are buying into the scam.

You are still here and emitting CO2, so obviously you don't take your sham for real.

My, my, must you always prove your willful ignorance? No, you do not prefer real science, and I can see you do not even have an idea of what the scientific method is. From Tyndall to present, there has never been any evidence presented that stood up that GHG's do not warm the atmosphere. But then, I doubt you even know who Tyndall was.

 

[BlindBoo]

You are still here and emitting CO2, so obviously you don't take your sham for real.

Did you say you prefer real science?

All the carbon you emit is carbon your body has captured. You, all of us, and life in general, are carbon neutral. The issue with carbon is that when fossil fuels are burned they release sequestered carbon into the atmosphere from millions of years ago.

I'm not sure if the alarmists or the deniers are worse. It is not likely to kill us off.

 

[Mushroom]

The issue with carbon is that when fossil fuels are burned they release sequestered carbon into the atmosphere from millions of years ago.

Which is then captured by plants. We know that plants evolved in conditions of much higher levels of CO2, and they thrive the most when CO2 levels are high.

 

[BlindBoo]

Which is then captured by plants. We know that plants evolved in conditions of much higher levels of CO2, and they thrive the most when CO2 levels are high.

Plants are also carbon neutral. Every greenhouse grower knows increasing CO2 increases yield. However, if they absorb more, they release more when they shed their leaves and when they die. Although some of their carbon goes back into the ground most of it goes into the atmosphere. They also absorb the carbon from the ground when they grow. We are all part of the Carbon Cycle.

 

[Woodznutz]

OP doesn't understand the difference between weather and climate. Lol

Climate and weather are 'kissin' cousins'.

 

[Mushroom]

Plants are also carbon neutral.

No, they are not. Their lifecycle is, but the plants themselves are "carbon sinks". Holy hell, where do you think coal comes from? Why do you think so many initiatives to deal with CO2 is freaking planting more trees?

A significant numbers like algae are. But as you move up to the larger plants, they sequester their carbon, and especially in their decomposition actually transfer it into the ground and not the atmosphere.

And that carbon sink in the ground put there by plants is vast, over 2 quadrillion tons of carbon just in the top two meters of soil.

Not sure where you got the idea that plants are carbon neutral, but that is very wrong.

Oh, and animals can be carbon sinks also.

 

[BlindBoo]

No, they are not. Their lifecycle is, but the plants themselves are "carbon sinks". Holy hell, where do you think coal comes from?

Yes they are. Most of the CO2 and Methane from their decomposition is released to the atmosphere. They leave behind in the soil nutrients (nitrogen mostly) and a small amount of carbon and other minerals .

Coal comes from plant matter that sank to the bottom of the swamps in low oxygen conditions where it couldn't decompose, 300 million years ago.

Forrest are carbon sinks because of their mass. But a full grown forest is also carbon neutral because they emit as much CO2 as they absorb.

 

[EMH]

Climate and weather are 'kissin' cousins'.

Actually climate dictates the range of the weather.

When Earth had little to no land near the poles, and hence little to no ice, it was warmer, wetter, and had much higher surface air pressure. Hence, the weather range was warmer, the canes were bigger and stronger, and the point on mountain tops where ice started was higher, and heavy flying dinosaurs which could not fly today could fly then.


Today Earth has 9 million cubic miles of ice, 90% on Antarctica, 7% on Greenland. Air that passes over Antarctic cools 50F more than Arctic. Antarctic dumps 9 times the ice into the oceans, some 46 times the H2O the Mississippi dumps in the Gulf, all frozen, on average something like -100F when calved. Antarctic Circle cools both atmosphere and oceans more than Arctic. That's the biggest clue of all.

The amount of ice on Earth dictates climate, given orbit and Sun now. The amount of ice on Earth is 99% about where land is relative to the poles.

 

[Robert W]

Actually climate dictates the range of the weather.

When Earth had little to no land near the poles, and hence little to no ice, it was warmer, wetter, and had much higher surface air pressure. Hence, the weather range was warmer, the canes were bigger and stronger, and the point on mountain tops where ice started was higher, and heavy flying dinosaurs which could not fly today could fly then.


Today Earth has 9 million cubic miles of ice, 90% on Antarctica, 7% on Greenland. Air that passes over Antarctic cools 50F more than Arctic. Antarctic dumps 9 times the ice into the oceans, some 46 times the H2O the Mississippi dumps in the Gulf, all frozen, on average something like -100F when calved. Antarctic Circle cools both atmosphere and oceans more than Arctic. That's the biggest clue of all.

The amount of ice on Earth dictates climate, given orbit and Sun now. The amount of ice on Earth is 99% about where land is relative to the poles.

A fact the alarmists despise being told is that CO2 amounts to a tiny .04 of the atmosphere. Ice as you mention is not their concern since it has a chilling effect. They won't even discuss Death Valley where heat is less now than in the past.

 

[Mushroom]

Yes they are. Most of the CO2 and Methane from their decomposition is released to the atmosphere. They leave behind in the soil nutrients (nitrogen mostly) and a small amount of carbon and other minerals .

Coal comes from plant matter that sank to the bottom of the swamps in low oxygen conditions where it couldn't decompose, 300 million years ago.

Forrest are carbon sinks because of their mass. But a full grown forest is also carbon neutral because they emit as much CO2 as they absorb.

Plants are a natural “carbon sink”: as they grow, plants use sunlight to convert water and carbon dioxide (CO2) into sugar, effectively storing carbon in their tissues. This process helps regulate our planet’s temperature by taking climate-warming CO2 out of the atmosphere.

But this “land carbon sink” is actually a recent change for our planet. Before the Industrial Revolution, humans enjoyed a stable period for the Earth’s climate when plants and soils captured about as much carbon as they released. It’s the extra CO2 in the air today—from human activities like burning fossil fuels—that has boosted the rate of photosynthesis and let plants take up more carbon, which they use to grow faster and use water more efficiently.

https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/how-much-human-produced-carbon-dioxide-taken-faster-plant-growth-around-world

Forests are typically carbon sinks, places that absorb more carbon than they release. They continually take carbon out of the atmosphere through the process of photosynthesis.

Carbon Sources and Sinks

Carbon sinks absorb more carbon than they release, while carbon sources release more carbon than they absorb.

education.nationalgeographic.org

Don’t be fooled by the name; a carbon sink is not where we go to wash carbon. Actually, it’s something found in nature that holds or stores carbon — technically anything that absorbs more carbon that it releases.

Forests are great examples. In fact, U.S. forests alone store 14 percent of all annual carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions from the national economy. But how does it happen? You may know that trees survive by performing a process called photosynthesis, in which the tree actually consumes CO2. Being absorbed by trees is just one way that carbon moves through forests as part of the carbon cycle. This cycle is the process by which carbon travels from the atmosphere into the Earth and its organisms, and then travels back into the atmosphere.

https://www.americanforests.org/article/forests-as-carbon-sinks/

I can easily deliver several hundred more references if those are not enough.

What you believe does not matter, if it's not the truth.

 

[EMH]

A fact the alarmists despise being told is that CO2 amounts to a tiny .04 of the atmosphere. Ice as you mention is not their concern since it has a chilling effect. They won't even discuss Death Valley where heat is less now than in the past.

0.04% really 0.0004 without the percent...

They avoid trying to dispute what EMH posts because they cannot refute, they know it. Ice dictates Earth's climate

temperature
atmospheric thickness/surface air pressure
ocean levels
ocean temps/hurricanes
humidity (really a function of temperature, but ice controls temperature)


Think of it this way. Earth is a room with 2 air(and water) conditioning units, Arctic and Antarctic, each with settings 0=off and 10= maxCOOL.

Right now the AA AC is set at 9 and the Arctic AC is set at 1. Just configure land differently and you "change the setting of the AC unit."

No land near the poles = no ice = Earth warm parameter = Jurassic = warmer, wetter, higher SAP

A big continent on each pole = "two Antarcticas" = colder, drier, lower ocean level, lower SAP, little to no cane activity

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