Zone1 This Doesn't Help Israel

[Natural Citizen]

Why are you people defending vandalism?

Not defending it, per se, but more so ''how dare you for 'noticing' when Israel does it.''

''Look at everyone else instead'' kind of of deal ''and if you don't, then you're an antisemite for noticing when we do it''

You should know the gambit by now.


And this is the second or third thread on it, btw...

Zone1 Thread 'This Doesn't Help Israel'

Apr 20, 2026

People do really stupid things that don't serve their own interests. We all know Jews consider Christians "idol worshippers", but you'd think these soldiers would have some sense.

The Israel Defense Forces confirmed the authenticity of a photo showing a soldier in southern Lebanon smashing a statue of Jesus with a sledgehammer, and said it would take action against those involved.

The statement, issued shortly after midnight on Sunday-Monday, came after the photo circulated widely online. Earlier, as the photo spread on social media, IDF spokesperson Lt. Col. Nadav Shoshani posted on X...

• Carl in Michigan
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[Zincwarrior]

The double standards is that OP makes more of a fuss over ONE Jew crashing a statue than he does over hundreds of Nigeria Muslims murdering thousands of Christians.

And pointing out the double standards is not whataboutism. It’s one of the three big tells of antisemitism.

You are still defending religious vandalism.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Not defending it, per se, but more so ''how dare you for 'noticing' when Israel does it.''

Look at everyone else instead kind of deal. You should know the drill by now...

Not blaming an entire country. Blaming that soldier.

 

[Lisa558]

You are still defending religious vandalism.

When did I defend it? I’m pointing out the double standards where Jews are concerned.

 

[Zincwarrior]

When did I defend it? I’m pointing out the double standards where Jews are concerned.

Not Jews, a soldier.

 

[Lisa558]

Not Jews, a soldier.

A Jewish soldier.

 

[USAF 2023]

Personally, I think Christians breaking into a Jewish household, scaring the 13-year-old girl there home alone, blowing the Shabbos candles out (can you imagine?!), and cursing Judaism to the girl’s face is a LOT worse than what the IDF soldier did to the statue.

The majority of Christian’s would just shrug or think it’s OK Talk about destroying people of a certain religion? Let’s talk about the Violence, deaths, being forced out of their Birth Countries, not getting a Job because you’re Jewish? That’s a lot worse

 

[USAF 2023]

By complaining about those of us who are condemning what the soldier is doing.

I’m not complaining. Don’t compare that to how the hate , Venom and Violence the Christian people have had for the the last 2,000 years

 

[DGS49]

I'll take a symbolic atrocity over a real one any day. I'm a lifelong Roman Catholic, and I think this is insignificant.

 

[USAF 2023]

Some Christians have, I agree, but how does that mean Zionist Jews are right to persecute Christians?

If religious persecution is wrong, then its wrong, yes or no?

Please tell us how Zionist Jews are persecuting Christians? SOME Christians have??? Maybe you should read up on the History how Jews were treated . I just love people who say NOTHING but their Religion but criticize others who are not even close to doing the damage they did

 

[Thethingsz]

SILVER LINING.
TRUST THE IDF

A Mistake—And a Military That Holds Itself Accountable.
IDF Investigation Proves the Rule: Transparency and Discipline Over False Narratives.

“According to Israel Defense Forces reporting cited by The Times of Israel (April 2026), the image of a soldier damaging a statue of Jesus in Lebanon is authentic—and the IDF has already committed to taking disciplinary action.

Importantly, the incident does not reflect hostility toward Christians; rather, it appears tied to interpretation of religious prohibitions on graven images as in the 2nd Commandment, acted on a personal choice. not any institutional stance. What stands out is the IDF’s internal accountability: misconduct is swiftly identified, acknowledged, and addressed.

This is precisely why the IDF is a professional and self-regulating military. Its willingness to investigate its own personnel contrasts sharply with narratives pushed by some anti-Israel actors, including groups that present themselves as neutral ‘human rights’ organizations but often lack comparable transparency or scrutiny of their own claims.

NPR is Hezbollah PR

Blogging about Israel and the Arab world since, oh, forever.

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[EdwinAMartin]

People do really stupid things that don't serve their own interests. We all know Jews consider Christians "idol worshippers", but you'd think these soldiers would have some sense.

The Israel Defense Forces confirmed the authenticity of a photo showing a soldier in southern Lebanon smashing a statue of Jesus with a sledgehammer, and said it would take action against those involved.

The statement, issued shortly after midnight on Sunday-Monday, came after the photo circulated widely online. Earlier, as the photo spread on social media, IDF spokesperson Lt. Col. Nadav Shoshani posted on X that the military would investigate.

Following an initial review of the photo, the military said that “it was established that the photograph depicts an IDF soldier operating in southern Lebanon.”

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Was it one of the Haredi Netanyahu was so eager to 'assimilate' into the armed forces and judiciary?

 

[EdwinAMartin]

See the thread about the Noahide laws to understand our Judeo-Christian values. The religion of Christ is the perfecting of wayward Judaism

In all church discussions we are apt to forget the second Testament is avowedly only a supplement. Jesus came to complete the law and the prophets. Christianity is completed Judaism, or it is nothing. Christianity is incomprehensible without Judaism, as Judaism is incomplete without Christianity

Christianity is completed Judaism, or it is nothing. Christianity is incomprehensible without Judaism, as Judaism is incomplete without Christianity. Benjamin Disraeli (1845). “Sybil, Or, The Two Nations”, p.130

Jews show so near an affinity to you... Where is your Christianity if you do not believe in their Judaism?
- Benjamin Disraeli

Judaism is not complete without Christianity and without Judaism, Christianity would not exist.


Benjamin Disraeli

Benjamin Disraeli Quote

In all church discussions we are apt to forget the second Testament is avowedly only a supplement. Jesus came to complete the law and the prophets. Christianity is completed Judaism, or it is nothing. Christianity is incomprehensible without Judaism, as Judaism is incomplete without Christianity.

www.azquotes.com

 

[Stryder50]

Mostly agree, but Israel isn't my enemy. You're using an ARAB proverb

Israel isn't my enemy either.
Arabs and Jews are close related ethnically.
That 'proverb' plays in most cultures. I'm vaguely recalling something similar in Sun Tzu, IIRC.

 

[EdwinAMartin]

Maybe you should read up on the History how Jews were treated .

Compared to who? Jewish history wouldn't leave Jews looking like the helpless innocent lambs you think it would. A lot of ethnic groups have been treated a lot worse, as in totally exterminated, around the world over the millennia, so don't get carried away. Much of the OT and NT themselves are about Jews Behaving Badly. Other sects have done far worse than the Evil Xians have throughout history, even the allegedly 'pacifist' Buddhists. The differences are Jewish sects have strong tendencies for self-examination and reforms.

Having said that, it is indeed a dangerous time for Jews, no doubts about it, and we see that in many places, not just in the US. An unarmed Jew is a fool these days, and I could say the same for Christian sects as well. They are part and parcel the same thing from the same sources, whether or not some in either group like it.

As for the Christian sects in Lebanon, they were never allies with the Israelis, and have been pretty much indistinguishable form other Arab cretins, so there is that. They will reap what they sow same as the rest of the world will.

 

[shockedcanadian]

It was a bad look and a stupid decision by a young soldier (I assume he is young). Israel was right to admit it happened and not try and cover it up. Their transparency carries weight and juxtaposes from their foes. I do hope their are consequences, it is not the time for politics.

Bibi said they are going to rebuild the statue. A nice gesture to Christians and those in Lebanon to remind them that they are not the enemy.

Let us not however compare this stupid act with that of the rabid terrorists who indiscriminately murder Christians, young and old. A statue can be rebuilt and a young soldier reprimanded. A life cannot be saved once taken by a terrorist (and that terrorists soul cannot be saved by any human).

 

[The Duke]

Not defending it…..pointing out the double standards.

Muslims slaughtering thousands of Christians, and Islamists murdering tens of thousands of Iranians, and Islamic terrorists torturing to death hundreds of Jewish children….

….makes the fact that a Jew smashed a statue pretty minor by comparison.

The double standards is that OP makes more of a fuss over ONE Jew crashing a statue than he does over hundreds of Nigeria Muslims murdering thousands of Christians.

And pointing out the double standards is not whataboutism. It’s one of the three big tells of antisemitism.

OP has been one of your biggest allies on this board. That may or may not be reassessed after these posts.

 

[Lisa558]

OP has been one of your biggest allies on this board. That may or may not be reassessed after these posts.

He’s not one of my allies. He’s one of the few antisemites on the right on this forum. I’ve had it out with him many times over his disdain and contempt for Jews.

 

[Lisa558]

The Duke

Why do you disagree? Have you read any of the drag-down fights I’ve had with him over his antisemitism?

 

[1srelluc]

https://www.cnn.com/2026/04/21/middleeast/israeli-soldiers-damaged-christ-figure-intl

The Israeli soldiers who damaged a figure of Jesus Christ in southern Lebanon and photographed the incident will be removed from combat duty and sentenced to 30 days of military detention, according to the Israeli military.