They're Rich. They're Anti-Trump. And They Don't Want Their Massive Tax Cuts.

[Nostra]

No one I have voted for has signed a single spending bill in over 2 decades. You?

You sure know how to pick em.

 

[jc456]

You sure know how to pick em.

So he admits he isn't interested in solving what he's concerned about here!!! I doubt he's voted for anyone.

 

[Nostra]

So he admits he isn't interested in solving what he's concerned about here!!! I doubt he's voted for anyone.

Probably not old enough yet, given his postings.

 

[g5000]

They're Rich. They're Anti-Trump. And They Don't Want Their Massive Tax Cuts.​

I am willing to do my patriotic duty and take that filthy lucre off their hands.

 

[Mac-7]

Are personal higher income tax rates "fair" in the literal sense? I'd say no. And I think it's pretty obvious.

But we're past "fair" now. We can pretend we aren't, we can turn a blind eye to the removal of critical benefits from the lowest rungs of our society, we can blindly justify historic wealth disparities, we can keep adding to the debt while bitching about it, but we're past fair now.

We have to find a way to intelligently and carefully (as compared to the moronic way it's being done) streamline government costs, AND we have to increase income tax revenues. That's the hole we have chosen to dig for ourselves.

This is a partisan political debate over a math problem. It's a partisan political debate over a sociological problem. Tribalism over reality and reason. Politics soils every last goddamn thing it touches, and it's bringing us down in real time.

Freeze next years budget at this years level

No increase allowed for cost of living or inflation

That includes social security, medicaid, the military, everyone

If the neo marxists want to raise taxes make the increase apply to everyone equally not just the rich

 

[pknopp]

Freeze next years budget at this years level

No increase allowed for cost of living or inflation

That includes social security, medicaid, the military, everyone

If the neo marxists want to raise taxes make the increase apply to everyone equally not just the rich

It won't happen and then we re-elect those who do the opposite of things we know should be done.

 

[jc456]

It won't happen and then we re-elect those who do the opposite of things we know should be done.

or elect those who simply ignore it like what you admit you do.

 

[Mac-7]

It won't happen and then we re-elect those who do the opposite of things we know should be done.

It may not happen, but it is the sensible alternative to tax-raising libs such as Mac1958

 

[pknopp]

It may not happen, but it is the sensible alternative to tax-raising libs such as Mac1958

The debt does absolutely need addressed. I don't understand how it is that those who elected those who passed the debt don't want to actually pay for it.

 

[hadit]

It may not happen, but it is the sensible alternative to tax-raising libs such as Mac1958

The problem with raising taxes is that it never stops. No amount of taxation is ever enough, mostly because Congress will spend far more than ANY projected new revenue, and the new revenue NEVER matches what's predicted, because those making the predictions don't take into account human behavior and assume everyone's just going to shrug and pay the new taxes without making arrangements to avoid them.

1. Complain we don't have enough money
2. Raise taxes
3. Spend like crazy

Rinse and repeat.

Meanwhile, tax increasers never realize they're stuck in an endless cycle.

 

[hadit]

The debt does absolutely need addressed. I don't understand how it is that those who elected those who passed the debt don't want to actually pay for it.

Are you kidding? Everyone wants to be Santa Claus while no one wants to be responsible Dad, and Santa always blames Dad for everything.

 

[pknopp]

The problem with raising taxes is that it never stops. No amount of taxation is ever enough, mostly because Congress will spend far more than ANY projected new revenue, and the new revenue NEVER matches what's predicted, because those making the predictions don't take into account human behavior and assume everyone's just going to shrug and pay the new taxes without making arrangements to avoid them.

1. Complain we don't have enough money
2. Raise taxes
3. Spend like crazy

Rinse and repeat.

Meanwhile, tax increasers never realize they're stuck in an endless cycle.

Quit adding more and more debt it isn't then needed.

Continuing to vote for debt is going to end badly.

 

[hadit]

Quit adding more and more debt it isn't then needed.

Continuing to vote for debt is going to end badly.

That means that the credit card has to be cut, and that REALLY gets the usual suspects big mad. DOGE, anyone?

 

[pknopp]

That means that the credit card has to be cut, and that REALLY gets the usual suspects big mad. DOGE, anyone?

Dog and pony show. Too bad it couldn't have been real.

 

[jc456]

The debt does absolutely need addressed. I don't understand how it is that those who elected those who passed the debt don't want to actually pay for it.

well again, the people don't engage in the bill legislation process. I have an idea, stop raising the debt ceiling first! Let the government shut down. You?

 

[pknopp]

well again, the people don't engage in the bill legislation process. I have an idea, stop raising the debt ceiling first! Let the government shut down. You?

Absolutely. I've said I support that many times. The issue is, it isn't going to happen and the debt ceiling will be raised and those who do that will get re-elected.

 

[jc456]

Absolutely. I've said I support that many times. The issue is, it isn't going to happen and the debt ceiling will be raised and those who do that will get re-elected.

so that's most all of congress that isn't for that. sad.

 

[pknopp]

so that's most all of congress that isn't for that. sad.

They know they will get re-elected anyway.

 

[jc456]

They know they will get re-elected anyway.

no one willing to run against them due to money. As I've said repeatedly in here, remove the money and the candidates will change.

 

[pknopp]

no one willing to run against them due to money. As I've said repeatedly in here, remove the money and the candidates will change.

There are always alternatives to the status quo.