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‘They’re all begging me’: Trump’s 2024 veep tryouts get underway...could be Tim Scott or an Asian American in California, somebody Hispanic in Texas

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it won't be Pence, that's for sure...probably DeSantis...i would want Christie...Christie, Hawley, Ted Cruz, Tom Cotton, are all not mentioned in the article


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Those familiar with his thinking say his selection will be determined by two factors that rate highest in Trump’s estimation: unquestioned loyalty and an embrace of the former president’s baseless claims that the 2020 election was stolen from him.

He’s name-dropped Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis as one possible running mate. Veepstakes speculation rose among insiders who saw him interact recently with South Carolina Sen. Tim Scott and former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo at his Mar-a-Lago club.

“They’re all begging me. They all come here,” Trump boasted to one adviser, who shared the account anonymously with POLITICO


“A lot of times, a presidential candidate will pick a running mate to balance out wings of the party. But with Trump, that’s not the issue. He is the party, basically. It’s so united behind him,” said John McLaughlin, one of Trump’s campaign pollsters. “So his choice, if he runs, will come down to what he wants. It would be a much more personal decision this time.”

The issue of a running mate, advisers and allies say, has taken on a new dimension in Trump’s mind as he stews over his decision to pick Pence in 2016, only to watch the vice president help certify the election of Joe Biden as president in January.

The considerations that led Trump to name Pence as his ticket mate in 2016 — an evangelical conservative, Pence was a Rust Belt governor at the time of his selection — are no longer as relevant, Trump’s advisers say. They say Trump is far more likely to go with his gut instinct next time around. Trump partly relied on his daughter and son-in-law, Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner, during the selection process last time, but the two are not expected to play the same role if he runs in 2024.

“Once you get past those two issues — loyalty and Trump going more with his gut — Trump has a lot of leeway in who he would pick,” said Tony Fabrizio, Trump’s lead pollster in 2016 and 2020.

“He's not necessarily looking to balance the ticket geographically, but what he can do is pick to balance gender, race, ethnicity — a lot of different lanes there,” said Fabrizio, who is polling for a Trump-affiliated super PAC. “It could be everything from a Tim Scott in South Carolina to an Asian American in California, somebody Hispanic in Texas. There are so many choices and paths. And there’s lots of time to go.”

Those familiar with Trump’s thinking say his prospective vice president selection would likely draw from three general lanes of candidates: women, conservatives of color or a trusted adviser — or a “consigliere,” as one adviser described it.

Scott, the first elected Black senator from the South since the Reconstruction era, recently met with Trump in Palm Beach.

“It was a really warm interaction,” said one Republican observer in the room. “Scott was appropriately deferential without being gross, like some people are. What he said was thoughtful, and it was appreciated by the president. There was definitely chemistry there.”

Scott, who is running for reelection in 2022, has proved to be a prodigious fundraiser as well, pulling in $8.4 million in the last quarter. He hasn’t denied his own interest in a presidential bid in 2024, but he has said he wouldn’t run if Trump does. The South Carolina senator has already begun visiting other early presidential nominating states like Iowa and New Hampshire.

Longtime Trump adviser Roger Stone said the shadow presidential campaigns from Scott and so many others double as a sort of vice-presidential tryout for Trump.

“This is an audition. And Trump is paying attention,” Stone said. “There’s no question that people running for president are really running for vice president all the time. The key is to make it look like you’re not running for vice president.”

Among some Trump advisers, Florida Lt. Gov. Jeanette Nuñez is viewed as a promising future star. They say Trump likes her and raved about her speaking role at his nominating convention last summer. But her public and political footprint have been limited under DeSantis, who’s widely seen as an heir apparent to Trump. The two men have a cordial and respectful public relationship, but privately Trump sees the younger DeSantis as a potential rival.

When Trump recently mused about picking DeSantis as a running mate, many in Trump circles said he was putting the governor in his place, not seriously floating him as a name.

“Trump feels he made DeSantis. Trump sees him as a competitor. And he’s not going to have someone with better numbers,” one Trump adviser said.

Yet there is one wrinkle that could potentially limit either Florida politician from getting the nod: a quirk in the Constitution that suggests a presidential candidate would face a unique hurdle with a running mate who hails from the same state.When Trump recently mused about picking DeSantis as a running mate, many in Trump circles said he was putting the governor in his place, not seriously floating him as a name.

“Trump feels he made DeSantis. Trump sees him as a competitor. And he’s not going to have someone with better numbers,” one Trump adviser said.

Yet there is one wrinkle that could potentially limit either Florida politician from getting the nod: a quirk in the Constitution that suggests a presidential candidate would face a unique hurdle with a running mate who hails from the same state.

However, Trump is keenly aware that he had a problem with women voters, increasing the likelihood that he might look to strike a gender balance on his ticket. Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds and Tennessee Sen. Marsha Blackburn have risen in the way-too-early veepstakes chatter because both are “tough as nails and conservative as hell,” one adviser to Trump said

Trump’s former acting national security director, Ric Grenell, has also risen in the estimation of Trump insiders, as has another potential presidential candidate, Mike Pompeo

“Don’t sleep on Ric. Trump loves him, and unlike Pompeo or anyone else, he has no interest in running for president. That’s a big issue for Trump,” another adviser said of Grenell, who recently joined the board of directors for Trump’s super PAC.

Michael Caputo, a former Trump campaign staffer who worked in his administration, said it’s hard to forecast whom Trump might pick because there’s so much time to go. Whomever is chosen “will have to be loyal, and they’ll have to denounce what happened in 2020. If they don’t, they’re disqualified.”

Kellyanne Conway, a top Trump adviser, echoed Caputo.

“Who should he pick?” she asked. “Whoever he wants.”
 
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There is certainly a deep bench of very experienced and talented people that could be a good VP, or for that matter President in the GOP.

On the left, they got Sanders, but he's sort of up there in age...Harris...and AOC.
 

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Meh. I'm not voting for Trump in the primaries.
We Republicans need to get past Trump.
If we lose in 2024 with Trump, because he repulses too many women voters, then the US can't be saved.
2024 is a "gimme" election, for ANY GOP candidate, except Trump.
 

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Hopefully a Tim Scott would not turn traitor to his country like Pence did when he sold out his country to The Swamp.

Don't sell Scott short. Why would you assume he would break the law?
 

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There's a slew of candidates out there willing to sacrifice their soul to be at the seat of power alongside the orange pile of shit. Desantis, Scott, Haley, are a few who come to mind.

Anyone who aligns with Trump is a piece of shit just like he is.
 

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Don't sell Scott short. Why would you assume he would break the law?


Pence was a traitor to his country as Senate President allowing the 2020 election to be certified without an audit of the contested districts, dispite overwhelming evidence of fraud. He sold out his country to the Swamp and that was despicable.

Hopefully a Tim Scott or another VP wouldn't do that.
 

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it won't be Pence, that's for sure...probably DeSantis...i would want Christie...Christie, Hawley, Ted Cruz, Tom Cotton, are all not mentioned in the article


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Those familiar with his thinking say his selection will be determined by two factors that rate highest in Trump’s estimation: unquestioned loyalty and an embrace of the former president’s baseless claims that the 2020 election was stolen from him.

He’s name-dropped Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis as one possible running mate. Veepstakes speculation rose among insiders who saw him interact recently with South Carolina Sen. Tim Scott and former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo at his Mar-a-Lago club.

“They’re all begging me. They all come here,” Trump boasted to one adviser, who shared the account anonymously with POLITICO


“A lot of times, a presidential candidate will pick a running mate to balance out wings of the party. But with Trump, that’s not the issue. He is the party, basically. It’s so united behind him,” said John McLaughlin, one of Trump’s campaign pollsters. “So his choice, if he runs, will come down to what he wants. It would be a much more personal decision this time.”

The issue of a running mate, advisers and allies say, has taken on a new dimension in Trump’s mind as he stews over his decision to pick Pence in 2016, only to watch the vice president help certify the election of Joe Biden as president in January.

The considerations that led Trump to name Pence as his ticket mate in 2016 — an evangelical conservative, Pence was a Rust Belt governor at the time of his selection — are no longer as relevant, Trump’s advisers say. They say Trump is far more likely to go with his gut instinct next time around. Trump partly relied on his daughter and son-in-law, Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner, during the selection process last time, but the two are not expected to play the same role if he runs in 2024.

“Once you get past those two issues — loyalty and Trump going more with his gut — Trump has a lot of leeway in who he would pick,” said Tony Fabrizio, Trump’s lead pollster in 2016 and 2020.

“He's not necessarily looking to balance the ticket geographically, but what he can do is pick to balance gender, race, ethnicity — a lot of different lanes there,” said Fabrizio, who is polling for a Trump-affiliated super PAC. “It could be everything from a Tim Scott in South Carolina to an Asian American in California, somebody Hispanic in Texas. There are so many choices and paths. And there’s lots of time to go.”

Those familiar with Trump’s thinking say his prospective vice president selection would likely draw from three general lanes of candidates: women, conservatives of color or a trusted adviser — or a “consigliere,” as one adviser described it.

Scott, the first elected Black senator from the South since the Reconstruction era, recently met with Trump in Palm Beach.

“It was a really warm interaction,” said one Republican observer in the room. “Scott was appropriately deferential without being gross, like some people are. What he said was thoughtful, and it was appreciated by the president. There was definitely chemistry there.”

Scott, who is running for reelection in 2022, has proved to be a prodigious fundraiser as well, pulling in $8.4 million in the last quarter. He hasn’t denied his own interest in a presidential bid in 2024, but he has said he wouldn’t run if Trump does. The South Carolina senator has already begun visiting other early presidential nominating states like Iowa and New Hampshire.

Longtime Trump adviser Roger Stone said the shadow presidential campaigns from Scott and so many others double as a sort of vice-presidential tryout for Trump.

“This is an audition. And Trump is paying attention,” Stone said. “There’s no question that people running for president are really running for vice president all the time. The key is to make it look like you’re not running for vice president.”

Among some Trump advisers, Florida Lt. Gov. Jeanette Nuñez is viewed as a promising future star. They say Trump likes her and raved about her speaking role at his nominating convention last summer. But her public and political footprint have been limited under DeSantis, who’s widely seen as an heir apparent to Trump. The two men have a cordial and respectful public relationship, but privately Trump sees the younger DeSantis as a potential rival.

When Trump recently mused about picking DeSantis as a running mate, many in Trump circles said he was putting the governor in his place, not seriously floating him as a name.

“Trump feels he made DeSantis. Trump sees him as a competitor. And he’s not going to have someone with better numbers,” one Trump adviser said.

Yet there is one wrinkle that could potentially limit either Florida politician from getting the nod: a quirk in the Constitution that suggests a presidential candidate would face a unique hurdle with a running mate who hails from the same state.When Trump recently mused about picking DeSantis as a running mate, many in Trump circles said he was putting the governor in his place, not seriously floating him as a name.

“Trump feels he made DeSantis. Trump sees him as a competitor. And he’s not going to have someone with better numbers,” one Trump adviser said.

Yet there is one wrinkle that could potentially limit either Florida politician from getting the nod: a quirk in the Constitution that suggests a presidential candidate would face a unique hurdle with a running mate who hails from the same state.

However, Trump is keenly aware that he had a problem with women voters, increasing the likelihood that he might look to strike a gender balance on his ticket. Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds and Tennessee Sen. Marsha Blackburn have risen in the way-too-early veepstakes chatter because both are “tough as nails and conservative as hell,” one adviser to Trump said

Trump’s former acting national security director, Ric Grenell, has also risen in the estimation of Trump insiders, as has another potential presidential candidate, Mike Pompeo

“Don’t sleep on Ric. Trump loves him, and unlike Pompeo or anyone else, he has no interest in running for president. That’s a big issue for Trump,” another adviser said of Grenell, who recently joined the board of directors for Trump’s super PAC.

Michael Caputo, a former Trump campaign staffer who worked in his administration, said it’s hard to forecast whom Trump might pick because there’s so much time to go. Whomever is chosen “will have to be loyal, and they’ll have to denounce what happened in 2020. If they don’t, they’re disqualified.”

Kellyanne Conway, a top Trump adviser, echoed Caputo.

“Who should he pick?” she asked. “Whoever he wants.”
Wait! You mean DeathSantis is no longer the headliner? What about all the hat stuff about how he is more electable than tRump? What about all his effort? He's worked tirelessly to kill as many as his constituents as possible to "own the libs" was allmthat for nothing?
 

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Pence was a traitor to his country as Senate President allowing the 2020 election to be certified without an audit of the contested districts, dispite overwhelming evidence of fraud. He sold out his country to the Swamp and that was despicable.

Hopefully a Tim Scott or another VP wouldn't do that.

Pence followed the Constitution and so will Tim Scott.
 

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There is certainly a deep bench of very experienced and talented people that could be a good VP, or for that matter President in the GOP.

On the left, they got Sanders, but he's sort of up there in age...Harris...and AOC.
Elizabeth Warren is a possibility too. I think she's possibly the strongest candidate they have right now.
 

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Wait! You mean DeathSantis is no longer the headliner? What about all the hat stuff about how he is more electable than tRump? What about all his effort? He's worked tirelessly to kill as many as his constituents as possible to "own the libs" was allmthat for nothing?
I don't think he is, nor has he ever been....he's looking at being on the top of the ticket, not VP, at this point.

DeSantis is a hero, and likely has a great shot at the nomination.
 

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No way Trump picks anyone with a strong personality as his VP, he will not share the spot light and he will not allow anyone to ever question him.

It would be a career killing move for Desantis to run with Trump.. Trump has real issues with men.. He is compelled to humiliate them and scapegoat them.
 

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I don't think he is, nor has he ever been....he's looking at being on the top of the ticket, not VP, at this point.

DeSantis is a hero, and likely has a great shot at the nomination.
He hasn't got a prayer if tRump runs. No shot at all.
 

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It would be a career killing move for Desantis to run with Trump.. Trump has real issues with men.. He is compelled to humiliate them and scapegoat them.

Well, in Trump's defesne he does that with women as well, just in different ways.
 

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Well, in Trump's defesne he does that with women as well, just in different ways.

I think its worse with accomplished men.. He can't get along with anyone.. He has some kind of tiny dick insecurity. Look how he treated Chris Christie? Look at his problems with Kelly, Tillerson, Pence etc. His problems with men are psychosexual.

Look how he trashed Desantis for ingratitude.
 

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Pence followed the Constitution and so will Tim Scott.


You are confused silly girl.

The Constitution allows for an audit under the rules of the Senate and it has been done before with less evidence than we had in 2020.

He didn't do it and that is why he will go down in history as a traitor allowing an illegitimate President to assume office.

You Moon Bats don't know any more about the Constitution than you know about Economics, History, Biology, Climate Science or Ethics, do you?
 

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VP doesn't do a whole lot.

Pence was a great VP.
 

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