“They Would Have Died Without The Virus

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Pro life means protecting life of all ages including the elderly and most vulnerable. There's no hoax here. Why do some accept letting them become infected is not a bad thing?

Have I mentioned that you are a fool with no grasp of the issues you post about?

I haven't mentioned it enough.
Your total ignorance is absolutely astounding. Masks might not be perfect but they are certainly better than nothing. I mean have you never heard the saying, Don't let perfection be the enemy of the good? Oh wait, you probably have heard it, you just don't have the intelligence to understand it.

And I am sorry you don't comprehend basic math. The mortality rate is simply the number of deaths divided by the number of infected. The news broadcasts both those numbers dozens of times every day. Funny you talk about people thinking for themselves and yet you don't have the ability to make a simple math calculation. Actually, I doubt you even got to division in school so it's explainable.

And the claim that "infected" is a stupid statement. Infected is only people that have been tested and the test came back positive. There is no telling how many people have had the Coronavirus and did not get tested. And you are so damn stupid that you don't realize that claiming the number of infected actually is inflated makes those mortality numbers worse. I mean serioiusly. If you want to claim the mortality numbers are not bad you should claim that the infected levels are higher. The fact that you are too stupid to figure that out speaks volumes as to what a total waste of bandwidth your 100,000 plus posts have been.

And the bit about the symptoms are the same as the seasonal flu is just the icing on the stupid cake. Yeah, many of the symptoms are the same, but there is the one, about not being able to breath, that kind of sets the Corona Virus apart. You see, you have to be able to breath to live. Although it is hard to imagine how you accomplish that task with your head so far up your ass.

Here is the thing. I have lost several family members to Covid-19. I will admit, all of them have had other health problems, I think they call that co-morbidity. But that does not negate the fact that they died sooner than they otherwise would have. Honestly, the bit about your head up your ass is a matter of fact. I don't know about you but I got a pretty good picture. But me, my daughter in law is a Covid nurse in a major metropolitan area. She zips people up in body bags and writes "Coronavirus" across it every single day.

But now to you. I used to think you were married to some one that kept you up. I know now that is most certainly not the case. Nope, you are living on Daddy's money, probably hanging out in the basement. You have three or four screens up to watch every lame ass right wing nutjob website possible. You used to have FOX news running 24/7 but you might have gotten pissed at them recently. With unkept hair and salvia coming out of your mouth like a rabid dog, you are madly between posting these ignorant diatribes and consuming some of the worst so called "news sites" known to man. Your entire self worth is dependent upon your fantastical belief that you are superior to everyone and everyone is on the edge of their seat waiting for your next posts. And truthfully, many of the idiots that peruse this sight probably do. But that is more a reflection of their own ignorance than a confirmation of your own inflated ego. I suppose, if nothing else, you are the pearl among swine.

The truth is I pity you. No life, few friends, your entire self-worth based on a lame ass messageboard that consumes an inordinate amount of your time. But at this point, in the current environment, it has became dangerous. Your perpetuation of stupid memes, right wing hack sites untruths and falsehoods, is endangering lives. Somewhere in this country some idiot fool is believing you, and they are going to get the Coronavirus, along with their asthma, or their aphid, or their kidney failure, and they are going to DIE. And what is worse, you don't give two shits about it. You are, to put it lightly, the scum of the damn earth. Totally self-absorbed, and totally stupid, like your idol Donald Trump, you are not only a waste of bandwidth, you are a waste of air.

You're simply a slave.....but apparently a happy slave.....there is the saying 'ignorance is bliss.'


Masks Hide The Difference Between Science And Politics

1.Either the Covid is an actual danger to mankind on the order of the Bubonic Plague, or it is simply one more extensive and well designed plot on the order of these: Russia Collusion of 2016, Obstruction of Mueller, Impeachment, Trump’s a racist, 25th amendment, Stormy Daniels, lies about Charlottesville fine Nazis, phone call to Ukraine, Quid Pro Quo, ‘lynching, one after another lead balloons.
I said they were well designed, if false, and certainly well-populated with every media ally of the Democrats playing along.



2. But let’s focus on production values: what could make everyone fear the Wuhan Red Death more than seeing every other person masked with disease regalia, making the whole nation appear to be an emergency room.

The optics alone cause the image, and there is noting Democrats like better than mandating stuff, anyway.



3. A quick review of the facts: If one gets the Wuhan, the chances of dying from it approach zero….no more than a rounding error in the data. An elderly, overweight President had it, and ten days later is doing two hours-long rallies a day.
And while the Chines flu certainly appears widespread, the symptoms are the same as the usual seasonal flu: “body aches, a cough and headaches, and felt extremely tired most of the time.”



4. How to explain the mandates for masks….if they are ineffective at best? If that’s what science says…..an intelligent person might be led to believe that it is not science going on here….but simply an immense attack on a presidency.

Let’s check:
CDC March 17th.....masks should only be worn by healthcare workers
Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.
www.cdc.gov



“In the 14 days before illness onset, 71% of case-patients and 74% of control-participants reported always using cloth face coverings or other mask types when in public.” That means that the majority who wore mask got the Wuhan. Community and Close Contact Exposures Associated with COVID-19 ...

Dr. Carl Heneghan, University of Oxford, director of the Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine and editor in chief of British Medical Journal Evidence-Based Medicine: ‘It would appear that despite two decades of pandemic preparedness, there is considerable uncertainty as to the value of wearing masks.’(https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/masking-lack-of-evidence-with-politics/)



"The Danish Study: Face masks showed no impact protecting wearers against COVID-19

This is the study you won't find on many mainstream media outlets. Rare kudos to the NY Times for publishing it, albeit with plenty of "ya, buts" throughout.




About 4,860 participants completed the study. The researchers had hoped that masks would cut the infection rate by half among wearers. Instead, 42 people in the mask group, or 1.8 percent, got infected, compared with 53 in the unmasked group, or 2.1 percent. The difference was not statistically significant.





“Our study gives an indication of how much you gain from wearing a mask,” said Dr. Henning Bundgaard, lead author of the study and a cardiologist at the University of Copenhagen. “Not a lot.”



Dr. Mette Kalager, a researcher at Telemark Hospital in Norway and the Harvard School of Public Health, was persuaded. The study showed that “although there might be a symbolic effect,” she wrote in an email, “the effect of wearing a mask does not substantially reduce risk” for wearers."

Funny you mention ignorance is bliss, and in the very next post talk about being home schooled. Because you fit that description perfectly. You are ignorant, not because of your viewpoints. Truth is it is kind of sad, you reveal the very weaknesses of home schooling. A lack of diversity, a closed mind, and intolerance. The perfect recipe for an asshole. You don't attempt to learn, you already know everything. Your consumption of books, news sources, and the internet is nothing but a pursuit to confirm your already established beliefs. And in your eagerness to inundate yourself with this confirmation bias, you miss simple truths that are staring you in the face.

Take the masks, and the Danish study. If you wear a mask you can still get Covid. Wow, big ass surprise. Does that mean wearing a mask does not protect you from Covid. Honestly, in most cases, it probably does not. Wearing a mask in and of itself is certainly not going to protect someone from Covid. Understanding how the disease is transferred would help one understand the reality. In order for the mask to be effective one would also have to practice extensive handwashing. But most of all, one would have to keep their hands off their face. Most people do not have the self-discipline to do either effectively.

But here is the thing you self-absorbed asshats refuse to understand about masks. You do not wear them to protect yourself against the Coronavirus, you wear them to protect other people. Nothing says I am a self-absorbed asshole who only cares about myself more than refusing to wear a mask. Anyone cited for not wearing a mask should be forced to have a mental evaluation, they probably have NPD. Again, if you understood how the disease is transmitted you would immediately understand the purpose of the mask and the protection it provides.

Now, to your comments about the low chance of dying if one contracts Covid. Looking at the most recent world statistics reveals a mortality rate of a little over two percent. Say, one in fifty. Those numbers are consistent with the US statistics. Drilling down to the state level, in North Carolina it is about 1.5%, in my county, 1.2%. But we have a better health care system than most states, and we have a Democratic governor.

The mortality rate of the seasonal flu has been consistently calculated at .01%. So you would have to get the seasonal flu every year for two hundred years to have the same chance as dying as you would if you got the Corona virus ONCE. That should clearly reveal how stupid comparing the seasonal flu with the Coronavirus really is. The fact that people still believe there is little difference is indicative of that confirmation bias I spoke of. Here is a bit about where this comparison originated and how it has been perpetuated.

Fact check: COVID-19 deadlier than 1918 Spanish flu, seasonal flu (usatoday.com)

And I can hear it now. It's the media the biased media, out to get Trump. Yep, better to believe some damn fool on Facebook than professional journalists. Seriously, can you not see how truly ignorant that shit is?
I never said I was homeschooled: I went to the best universities in the world.


Masks are the accoutrement of the indoctrinated.


Your chances of dying from the Wuhan are noting more than a rounding error.


No one dies from it unless they already had conditions that would have caused death in any case.


But....hey, you're a sucker: would I be correct about that, and this in addition: you vote Democrat.
Wow, doubling down on stupid I see. You flipping didn't graduate from community college. Two percent is not a rounding error. Matter of fact, there are casino's in Vegas that make millions of dollars on that two percent. Yes, some other wise healthy people have died from Covid. There is not co-morbidity in every case of death. Besides, with your type of thinking when you are in the doctor's office and they diagnosis you with stage 4 cancer they should just shoot you in the head and save the medical expenses.
 

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If he had told you it was dangerous, deadly and passes through the air and recommended masking, you would not have become am anti-mask dumb-ass or a Covid denier. All the sheep, always bleat in unison with their shepherd. It could have made a difference.
Uh yeah, I already knew it was airborne...still looking through my posts, I'll find it
Already knew there'd be a 2nd wave...IT'S BEEN ONGOING IN CHINA SINCE 2013
COVID 19 IS LOBAR PNEUMONIA
Not all Lobar Pneumonia is corona virus and visa-versu. According to trump Covid-19 is a real thing. He just didn't want you to know it. Congratulations on not believing his lies and knowing it was real and dangerous and airborne on your own. You should have told the trump sheep.

What are the symptoms of the Chinese virus?

What are the symptoms of the seasonal flu?
Look it up. You used to be good a research.

I don't have to look anything up, you dunce.....I know them: they are the same.


And that's because both are the same, and equally dangerous: we never closed an economy for the flu.


It was political and you bought it like it was on sale.
If you think you know, no need to ask. We're pretty much open down here. If you decide to come, bring your mask. Our red state pretty much leaving it up to local governments and health departments. No inviting, but maybe you should have chosen somewhere else to live.

Which party runs America?

Biden said he will mandate masks.

Wise up.


I am already wearing a mask when I go to stores, like when my wife and I were Christmas shopping at the Old Hickory Mall for 3 hours yesterday. My daughter stopped by on way to work, this morning. They mask where she works. My granddaughters wear masks to school. If he did mandate masks, it would effect my how? I will let you tremble with fear and angst thinking about it, while I just go ahead with my life. Good luck to you and yours.
 
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Pro life means protecting life of all ages including the elderly and most vulnerable. There's no hoax here. Why do some accept letting them become infected is not a bad thing?

Have I mentioned that you are a fool with no grasp of the issues you post about?

I haven't mentioned it enough.
Your total ignorance is absolutely astounding. Masks might not be perfect but they are certainly better than nothing. I mean have you never heard the saying, Don't let perfection be the enemy of the good? Oh wait, you probably have heard it, you just don't have the intelligence to understand it.

And I am sorry you don't comprehend basic math. The mortality rate is simply the number of deaths divided by the number of infected. The news broadcasts both those numbers dozens of times every day. Funny you talk about people thinking for themselves and yet you don't have the ability to make a simple math calculation. Actually, I doubt you even got to division in school so it's explainable.

And the claim that "infected" is a stupid statement. Infected is only people that have been tested and the test came back positive. There is no telling how many people have had the Coronavirus and did not get tested. And you are so damn stupid that you don't realize that claiming the number of infected actually is inflated makes those mortality numbers worse. I mean serioiusly. If you want to claim the mortality numbers are not bad you should claim that the infected levels are higher. The fact that you are too stupid to figure that out speaks volumes as to what a total waste of bandwidth your 100,000 plus posts have been.

And the bit about the symptoms are the same as the seasonal flu is just the icing on the stupid cake. Yeah, many of the symptoms are the same, but there is the one, about not being able to breath, that kind of sets the Corona Virus apart. You see, you have to be able to breath to live. Although it is hard to imagine how you accomplish that task with your head so far up your ass.

Here is the thing. I have lost several family members to Covid-19. I will admit, all of them have had other health problems, I think they call that co-morbidity. But that does not negate the fact that they died sooner than they otherwise would have. Honestly, the bit about your head up your ass is a matter of fact. I don't know about you but I got a pretty good picture. But me, my daughter in law is a Covid nurse in a major metropolitan area. She zips people up in body bags and writes "Coronavirus" across it every single day.

But now to you. I used to think you were married to some one that kept you up. I know now that is most certainly not the case. Nope, you are living on Daddy's money, probably hanging out in the basement. You have three or four screens up to watch every lame ass right wing nutjob website possible. You used to have FOX news running 24/7 but you might have gotten pissed at them recently. With unkept hair and salvia coming out of your mouth like a rabid dog, you are madly between posting these ignorant diatribes and consuming some of the worst so called "news sites" known to man. Your entire self worth is dependent upon your fantastical belief that you are superior to everyone and everyone is on the edge of their seat waiting for your next posts. And truthfully, many of the idiots that peruse this sight probably do. But that is more a reflection of their own ignorance than a confirmation of your own inflated ego. I suppose, if nothing else, you are the pearl among swine.

The truth is I pity you. No life, few friends, your entire self-worth based on a lame ass messageboard that consumes an inordinate amount of your time. But at this point, in the current environment, it has became dangerous. Your perpetuation of stupid memes, right wing hack sites untruths and falsehoods, is endangering lives. Somewhere in this country some idiot fool is believing you, and they are going to get the Coronavirus, along with their asthma, or their aphid, or their kidney failure, and they are going to DIE. And what is worse, you don't give two shits about it. You are, to put it lightly, the scum of the damn earth. Totally self-absorbed, and totally stupid, like your idol Donald Trump, you are not only a waste of bandwidth, you are a waste of air.

You're simply a slave.....but apparently a happy slave.....there is the saying 'ignorance is bliss.'


Masks Hide The Difference Between Science And Politics

1.Either the Covid is an actual danger to mankind on the order of the Bubonic Plague, or it is simply one more extensive and well designed plot on the order of these: Russia Collusion of 2016, Obstruction of Mueller, Impeachment, Trump’s a racist, 25th amendment, Stormy Daniels, lies about Charlottesville fine Nazis, phone call to Ukraine, Quid Pro Quo, ‘lynching, one after another lead balloons.
I said they were well designed, if false, and certainly well-populated with every media ally of the Democrats playing along.



2. But let’s focus on production values: what could make everyone fear the Wuhan Red Death more than seeing every other person masked with disease regalia, making the whole nation appear to be an emergency room.

The optics alone cause the image, and there is noting Democrats like better than mandating stuff, anyway.



3. A quick review of the facts: If one gets the Wuhan, the chances of dying from it approach zero….no more than a rounding error in the data. An elderly, overweight President had it, and ten days later is doing two hours-long rallies a day.
And while the Chines flu certainly appears widespread, the symptoms are the same as the usual seasonal flu: “body aches, a cough and headaches, and felt extremely tired most of the time.”



4. How to explain the mandates for masks….if they are ineffective at best? If that’s what science says…..an intelligent person might be led to believe that it is not science going on here….but simply an immense attack on a presidency.

Let’s check:
CDC March 17th.....masks should only be worn by healthcare workers
Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.
www.cdc.gov



“In the 14 days before illness onset, 71% of case-patients and 74% of control-participants reported always using cloth face coverings or other mask types when in public.” That means that the majority who wore mask got the Wuhan. Community and Close Contact Exposures Associated with COVID-19 ...

Dr. Carl Heneghan, University of Oxford, director of the Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine and editor in chief of British Medical Journal Evidence-Based Medicine: ‘It would appear that despite two decades of pandemic preparedness, there is considerable uncertainty as to the value of wearing masks.’(https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/masking-lack-of-evidence-with-politics/)



"The Danish Study: Face masks showed no impact protecting wearers against COVID-19

This is the study you won't find on many mainstream media outlets. Rare kudos to the NY Times for publishing it, albeit with plenty of "ya, buts" throughout.




About 4,860 participants completed the study. The researchers had hoped that masks would cut the infection rate by half among wearers. Instead, 42 people in the mask group, or 1.8 percent, got infected, compared with 53 in the unmasked group, or 2.1 percent. The difference was not statistically significant.





“Our study gives an indication of how much you gain from wearing a mask,” said Dr. Henning Bundgaard, lead author of the study and a cardiologist at the University of Copenhagen. “Not a lot.”



Dr. Mette Kalager, a researcher at Telemark Hospital in Norway and the Harvard School of Public Health, was persuaded. The study showed that “although there might be a symbolic effect,” she wrote in an email, “the effect of wearing a mask does not substantially reduce risk” for wearers."

Funny you mention ignorance is bliss, and in the very next post talk about being home schooled. Because you fit that description perfectly. You are ignorant, not because of your viewpoints. Truth is it is kind of sad, you reveal the very weaknesses of home schooling. A lack of diversity, a closed mind, and intolerance. The perfect recipe for an asshole. You don't attempt to learn, you already know everything. Your consumption of books, news sources, and the internet is nothing but a pursuit to confirm your already established beliefs. And in your eagerness to inundate yourself with this confirmation bias, you miss simple truths that are staring you in the face.

Take the masks, and the Danish study. If you wear a mask you can still get Covid. Wow, big ass surprise. Does that mean wearing a mask does not protect you from Covid. Honestly, in most cases, it probably does not. Wearing a mask in and of itself is certainly not going to protect someone from Covid. Understanding how the disease is transferred would help one understand the reality. In order for the mask to be effective one would also have to practice extensive handwashing. But most of all, one would have to keep their hands off their face. Most people do not have the self-discipline to do either effectively.

But here is the thing you self-absorbed asshats refuse to understand about masks. You do not wear them to protect yourself against the Coronavirus, you wear them to protect other people. Nothing says I am a self-absorbed asshole who only cares about myself more than refusing to wear a mask. Anyone cited for not wearing a mask should be forced to have a mental evaluation, they probably have NPD. Again, if you understood how the disease is transmitted you would immediately understand the purpose of the mask and the protection it provides.

Now, to your comments about the low chance of dying if one contracts Covid. Looking at the most recent world statistics reveals a mortality rate of a little over two percent. Say, one in fifty. Those numbers are consistent with the US statistics. Drilling down to the state level, in North Carolina it is about 1.5%, in my county, 1.2%. But we have a better health care system than most states, and we have a Democratic governor.

The mortality rate of the seasonal flu has been consistently calculated at .01%. So you would have to get the seasonal flu every year for two hundred years to have the same chance as dying as you would if you got the Corona virus ONCE. That should clearly reveal how stupid comparing the seasonal flu with the Coronavirus really is. The fact that people still believe there is little difference is indicative of that confirmation bias I spoke of. Here is a bit about where this comparison originated and how it has been perpetuated.

Fact check: COVID-19 deadlier than 1918 Spanish flu, seasonal flu (usatoday.com)

And I can hear it now. It's the media the biased media, out to get Trump. Yep, better to believe some damn fool on Facebook than professional journalists. Seriously, can you not see how truly ignorant that shit is?
I never said I was homeschooled: I went to the best universities in the world.


Masks are the accoutrement of the indoctrinated.


Your chances of dying from the Wuhan are noting more than a rounding error.


No one dies from it unless they already had conditions that would have caused death in any case.


But....hey, you're a sucker: would I be correct about that, and this in addition: you vote Democrat.
Wow, doubling down on stupid I see. You flipping didn't graduate from community college. Two percent is not a rounding error. Matter of fact, there are casino's in Vegas that make millions of dollars on that two percent. Yes, some other wise healthy people have died from Covid. There is not co-morbidity in every case of death. Besides, with your type of thinking when you are in the doctor's office and they diagnosis you with stage 4 cancer they should just shoot you in the head and save the medical expenses.

Watch this, you dunce:

The number of deaths from the Wuhan is no more than a rounding error.

Hill reporter Joe Consha said the following on Fox. 10/6:



"The CDC said that between the ages of zero and 19, 99.97% of people survive the Wuhan.



....between 20 and 45, 99.98%



....between 50 and 65, 99.5%



....and over 70, about 95%.



The chance of dying from the Wuhan Red Death is about.....zero.



Sooo ask yourself why the number reported is 'infections,' those positive tests, many of which are false positives.



Get this:
Recent study that indicated that the number of deaths from the usual causes, being heart disease, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia, just happens to be the number attributed to covid.


Now we find that those who actually died supposedly from the Wuhan are nearly all sick people who had DNRs, and would have died anyway.

“Study Finds 89% of Patients Who Died From COVID-19 Had a Do-Not-Resuscitate Order

You were sold a bill of goods, and it was easy because government school trained you to follow orders. Too bad you were never smart enough to question.



BTW....would you like to hear the fight song from my alma mater.....it's the best in the nation.
 
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If he had told you it was dangerous, deadly and passes through the air and recommended masking, you would not have become am anti-mask dumb-ass or a Covid denier. All the sheep, always bleat in unison with their shepherd. It could have made a difference.
Uh yeah, I already knew it was airborne...still looking through my posts, I'll find it
Already knew there'd be a 2nd wave...IT'S BEEN ONGOING IN CHINA SINCE 2013
COVID 19 IS LOBAR PNEUMONIA
Not all Lobar Pneumonia is corona virus and visa-versu. According to trump Covid-19 is a real thing. He just didn't want you to know it. Congratulations on not believing his lies and knowing it was real and dangerous and airborne on your own. You should have told the trump sheep.

What are the symptoms of the Chinese virus?

What are the symptoms of the seasonal flu?
Look it up. You used to be good a research.

I don't have to look anything up, you dunce.....I know them: they are the same.


And that's because both are the same, and equally dangerous: we never closed an economy for the flu.


It was political and you bought it like it was on sale.
If you think you know, no need to ask. We're pretty much open down here. If you decide to come, bring your mask. Our red state pretty much leaving it up to local governments and health departments. No inviting, but maybe you should have chosen somewhere else to live.

Which party runs America?

Biden said he will mandate masks.

Wise up.


I am already wearing a mask when I go to stores, like when my wife and I were Christmas shopping at the Old Hickory Mall for 3 hours yesterday. My daughter stopped by on way to work, this morning. They mask where she works. My granddaughters wear masks to school. If he did mandate masks, it would effect my how? I will let you tremble with fear and angst thinking about it, while I just go ahead with my life. Good luck to you and yours.


Wear the symbol of bowing to the dictators.....it's easier than armbands, I suppose.
 

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If it was no big deal why did Trump declare a national medical emergency?
 

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I believe in protecting life. That's just awful I know. My grasp of the issues is as good as anybody else's. I've got 88 years on this earth. To you I'm expendable. I'd be danged if I'd sacrifice my life for people who live the $ more than life.
Recognizing that your remaining lifespan is limited is not seeing you as "expendable"; it's just realistic. Your belief that society should be shut down and crippled to accommodate you, because making you feel safe (not even really keeping you safe) is not just the highest priority but the ONLY priority, tells me that you see everyone else as expendable.

We'll be danged if we'll sacrifice potentially millions of lives around the world for one selfish old fart who dismisses any concerns beyond his own as "You just care about money".

I will also say that if your wrinkled ass has left your house at all during the endless lockdowns, then you can't really be all that concerned about Covid, and just want to be pandered to.
 

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It’s sad that blob supporters are so very dumb. NPR had a story about a college senior who died of Covid. She was 23.

www.npr.org

Twitter: #facesofcovid
It's sad that leftists are so very dumb, but encouraged to believe their idiocy is intelligence. Even you should be ashamed of the level of vacuousness you display with this, "One young person died, so that means ALL young people are just as at-risk as anyone else!!!"

Feel free to cower in your house like a hermit as much as you like, because God knows you'd do the world a favor by depriving us of your company. But don't parade your foolishness and cowardice to the rest of us and pretend it's intelligence.
 

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Republicans are trying to repeal the ACA ... the ACA is a cash cow for the medical industry ... come election time, we have a medical emergency well promoted by the medical industry's lap dog, commercial media ...

Who gains the most? ...

I haven't died from COVID ... if I do, then maybe I'll feel differently ...


If you do, will you vote Democrat?
Everyone becomes a Democrat voter after they die.
 

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I'm all for ending illegal immigration and forcing businesses who hire them to hire americans for at least double what the illegals are paid. Plus benefits. Don't forget the second part.
You lost me at the point where you want to force businesses to pay according to YOUR standards, with absolutely no investment or skin in the game.

Enforce laws against hiring people who aren't supposed to be in the country in the first place? Sure. But I'm very dubious that you or anyone in politics knows more about running businesses than the combined wisdom and experience of the people actually owning and running them.
 

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Yep....that was me. Not everyone has to be a cheerleader. I lived by the rules and worked and saved. How can one be more patriotic than that?
Pretty easily, since self-interest does not equal patriotism.
 

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In america the $ is first and foremost. People will do anything for it.
Frankly, you're telling us nothing about America and everything about yourself, whether you recognize your projection or not.
 

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End school choice.

Move. That is your school choice. You pretend to HATE any form of socialism, yet you somehow want to use other peoples money to pay for the school you choose to go to. Hypocrite.
You want a choice, you have it. MOVE.


End tax credit scholarships serving disadvantaged students in 26 states.

Again, you are preaching socialism. More hypocrisy.

Oppose 14 million Americans with education savings accounts and get rid of school choice, having to do with school choice.

WTF are you babbling about now?

Eliminate school choice in Washington, D.C.

You appear to be repeating your ignorance here? Yup, you are.

Abolish all charter schools.

Charter Schools are a form a socialism, and they function with Fraud. Something you are bitching about.

Ban funding for charter schools in poor neighborhoods.

OMG, more socialism. I thought you hated socialism.

Abolish educational standards.

What? Isn't that what common core is? Common Core is a "Set of Standards" Look it up. You HATE CC, yet now you bitch about a lie of abolishing it.

You are one miserable cvnt.
That's incredibly Marie Antoinette of you. Might as well just say, "Send your kid to private school. That's your school choice."

The people who most need and want school choice are people who are too poor to move, moron, just as they are too poor to send their kid to private school. You don't need to pass school choice to benefit people with money.

Your entire post is nothing but mindless talking point parroting. It cannot be more painfully obvious that you not only do not read and apply any thinking ability to the posts you "reply" to, you're actively hostile to the idea that you should have a thought in your head which wasn't given to you by a bumper sticker or an Internet meme.

Be ashamed to exist. Seriously. Be embarrassed that you impose yourself on the world.
 
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Republicans are trying to repeal the ACA ... the ACA is a cash cow for the medical industry ... come election time, we have a medical emergency well promoted by the medical industry's lap dog, commercial media ...

Who gains the most? ...

I haven't died from COVID ... if I do, then maybe I'll feel differently ...


If you do, will you vote Democrat?
Everyone becomes a Democrat voter after they die.

Yup.....that's why I asked him that.
 

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It’s sad that blob supporters are so very dumb. NPR had a story about a college senior who died of Covid. She was 23.

www.npr.org

Twitter: #facesofcovid
It's sad that leftists are so very dumb, but encouraged to believe their idiocy is intelligence. Even you should be ashamed of the level of vacuousness you display with this, "One young person died, so that means ALL young people are just as at-risk as anyone else!!!"

Feel free to cower in your house like a hermit as much as you like, because God knows you'd do the world a favor by depriving us of your company. But don't parade your foolishness and cowardice to the rest of us and pretend it's intelligence.
Yet you're the one who spent Thanksgiving all alone. Fitting.
 

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It’s sad that blob supporters are so very dumb. NPR had a story about a college senior who died of Covid. She was 23.

www.npr.org

Twitter: #facesofcovid
It's sad that leftists are so very dumb, but encouraged to believe their idiocy is intelligence. Even you should be ashamed of the level of vacuousness you display with this, "One young person died, so that means ALL young people are just as at-risk as anyone else!!!"

Feel free to cower in your house like a hermit as much as you like, because God knows you'd do the world a favor by depriving us of your company. But don't parade your foolishness and cowardice to the rest of us and pretend it's intelligence.
Yet you're the one who spent Thanksgiving all alone. Fitting.
Contrary to what your masters want you to believe, your fantasies do not create reality. As always, you should know that I was happier on Thanksgiving than you have ever been or ever will be, just as I am every day of my life.

But I find it interesting that YOU were so alone and bored that you had time to create an elaborate fantasy about me.
 

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End school choice.

Move. That is your school choice. You pretend to HATE any form of socialism, yet you somehow want to use other peoples money to pay for the school you choose to go to. Hypocrite.
You want a choice, you have it. MOVE.


End tax credit scholarships serving disadvantaged students in 26 states.

Again, you are preaching socialism. More hypocrisy.

Oppose 14 million Americans with education savings accounts and get rid of school choice, having to do with school choice.

WTF are you babbling about now?

Eliminate school choice in Washington, D.C.

You appear to be repeating your ignorance here? Yup, you are.

Abolish all charter schools.

Charter Schools are a form a socialism, and they function with Fraud. Something you are bitching about.

Ban funding for charter schools in poor neighborhoods.

OMG, more socialism. I thought you hated socialism.

Abolish educational standards.

What? Isn't that what common core is? Common Core is a "Set of Standards" Look it up. You HATE CC, yet now you bitch about a lie of abolishing it.

You are one miserable cvnt.
That's incredibly Marie Antoinette of you. Might as well just say, "Send your kid to private school. That's your school choice."

The people who most need and want school choice are people who are too poor to move, moron, just as they are too poor to send their kid to private school. You don't need to pass school choice to benefit people with money.

Your entire post is nothing but mindless talking point parroting. It cannot be more painfully obvious that you not only do not read and apply any thinking ability to the posts you "reply" to, you're actively hostile to the idea that you should have a thought in your head which wasn't given to you by a bumper sticker or an Internet meme.

Be ashamed to exist. Seriously. Be embarrassed that you impose yourself on the world.
You talking to me. Winco
I just need to make sure
 

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"Send your kid to private school. That's your school choice."
Private Schools are fine, and by all means, if you have the funds, then send them to this wonderful utopia.

What was so upsetting to you?
Everything I stated is true.
You upset with me suggesting that someone move? lol.
If you actually bought a home in an area with bad schools, then shame on you.
If you rent, then the option of 'moving' is available, is it not?
 

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End school choice.

Move. That is your school choice. You pretend to HATE any form of socialism, yet you somehow want to use other peoples money to pay for the school you choose to go to. Hypocrite.
You want a choice, you have it. MOVE.


End tax credit scholarships serving disadvantaged students in 26 states.

Again, you are preaching socialism. More hypocrisy.

Oppose 14 million Americans with education savings accounts and get rid of school choice, having to do with school choice.

WTF are you babbling about now?

Eliminate school choice in Washington, D.C.

You appear to be repeating your ignorance here? Yup, you are.

Abolish all charter schools.

Charter Schools are a form a socialism, and they function with Fraud. Something you are bitching about.

Ban funding for charter schools in poor neighborhoods.

OMG, more socialism. I thought you hated socialism.

Abolish educational standards.

What? Isn't that what common core is? Common Core is a "Set of Standards" Look it up. You HATE CC, yet now you bitch about a lie of abolishing it.

You are one miserable cvnt.
That's incredibly Marie Antoinette of you. Might as well just say, "Send your kid to private school. That's your school choice."

The people who most need and want school choice are people who are too poor to move, moron, just as they are too poor to send their kid to private school. You don't need to pass school choice to benefit people with money.

Your entire post is nothing but mindless talking point parroting. It cannot be more painfully obvious that you not only do not read and apply any thinking ability to the posts you "reply" to, you're actively hostile to the idea that you should have a thought in your head which wasn't given to you by a bumper sticker or an Internet meme.

Be ashamed to exist. Seriously. Be embarrassed that you impose yourself on the world.
You talking to me. Winco
I just need to make sure
I know exactly who I'm talking to. Time for you to accept that the disdain coming your way is genuine.
 

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"Send your kid to private school. That's your school choice."
Private Schools are fine, and by all means, if you have the funds, then send them to this wonderful utopia.

What was so upsetting to you?
Everything I stated is true.
You upset with me suggesting that someone move? lol.
If you actually bought a home in an area with bad schools, then shame on you.
If you rent, then the option of 'moving' is available, is it not?
What's upsetting right now is your determination to cherrypick partial sentences and pretend they're the whole post so that you can misinterpret what I said.

You're an elitist dipshit who doesn't give two shits about poor minorities. Your post revealed it, and no amount of misquoting me is going to turn that around. And playing the "Your objection MUST be because you're a racist!" doesn't work on me, Klan Boy.

"It's their own fault for buying homes in bad neighborhoods. If you're renting, you can just go anywhere else, right? That's how it works in my suburb, so that's how it works for everyone."

Keep talking. I love how much it reveals about what an out-of-touch bigot you really are. And seriously, be ashamed of imposing your existence on the world.
 

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1.Several recent studies have revealed how truly stupid Democrat sheep are. After one failed hoax after another, these easily led dolts bought the Wuhan Red Death scam like it was on sale.

a. Masks are simply an outward signal that you neither read the literature, nor think for yourself.

b. Rather than give the mortality rate for the Chinavirus, the Democrat war room gave the number of ‘infected.’.

c. You never realized that ‘infected’ is a severely inflated number, unrelated to death, or even symptoms.

d. You never realized that the symptoms of the virus are identical to that of the seasonal flu.

e. Recent study that indicated that the number of deaths from the usual causes, being heart disease, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia, just happens to be the number attributed to covid.




2. Now we find that those who actually died supposedly from the Wuhan are nearly all sick people who had DNRs, and would have died anyway.

“Study Finds 89% of Patients Who Died From COVID-19 Had a Do-Not-Resuscitate Order

Following the retraction of a Johns Hopkins study that showed overall deaths in the United States had not really increased with the COVID-19, researchers have produced another analysis that is interesting to note. In a retrospective study of patients hospitalized with COVID-19 in New Jersey, 89% had a do-not-resuscitate (DNR) order before admission.

The significance of DNR status as an independent risk factor for mortality has not been documented previously in COVID19 patients. The present study analyzed data of 1270 patients with COVID-19, who were admitted to our institutions during the peak of the COVID-19 pandemic in New Jersey. DNR patients had higher hazard ratios for risk of death and lower survival outcomes compared to non-DNR patients. The association between DNR status and poor clinical outcomes remained independently significant after adjustment for important clinical factors, including age, gender, COVID-19 symptoms at the time of admission and comorbidities.

A physician issues a DNR in consultation with a patient and his loved ones. This generally follows a prognosis in clinical practice where medical estimates determine the patient has a terminal condition.



This study is notable because it indicates that many patients who died in these hospitals were quite ill to begin with. If this trend held in larger samples of the national population, at least one prediction made by Imperial College researcher Neil Ferguson may bear out. When he revised his statistics, he told officials in the U.K. that a significant portion of COVID-19 deaths in the country would likely have happened within the next six to twelve months without the virus:

“We don’t know what the level of excess deaths will be in this epidemic,” Ferguson said. In other words, we don’t know the extent to which COVID-19 will increase annual deaths above the level that otherwise would have been expected. “By the end of the year, what proportion of those people who’ve died from COVID-19 would have died anyhow?” Ferguson asked. “It might be as much as half to two-thirds of the deaths we’re seeing from COVID-19, because it’s affecting people who are either at the end of their lives or in poor health conditions. So I think these considerations are very valid.”



When will you learn: when you mix science and politics, all you get is politics.
“They Would Have Died Without The Virus"

No, they friggin wouldn't, and how the hell would you know? Did you personally scrutinise each and every Covid victim's medical history?
Flu death rates in the US over the last 12 years vary between 12000 & 60,000 not 250,000 in ten months.
You and people like you who spread misinformation are the reason Covid death rates in the US are the highest in the world. YOU ARE KILLING PEOPLE!
 

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