They keep releasing gun criminals, they even release school shooters.....this is insane.

[Batcat]

I believe you are exactly right. It just makes to much sense, but how will the nation survive it all ?? Will it be dealt a lethal blow by a thousand cuts, and if so who are the thinker's behind the task at hand ?? Should the nation go into defensive mode in order to stop all the bleeding ??? Otherwise it is highly important now to organize in order to defeat these criminal corrupt officials, but to do so through "peaceful means" (vote their aces out, and take the country back for the people), otherwise if all is true, because innocent lives are at stake, and we've had enough innocent's being killed over the years now.

Obviously the best way to try to correct a problem like this is by voting. Let’s hope that effort is successful. An uprising or civil war is not necessary at this time and hopefully never will be.

 

[beagle9]

The government didn't push banks to lend to less creditworthy borrowers.

Really?
They didn't stop banks from merging/expanding if they didn't have enough sub-prime or minority loans?

They did however push Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac to lower their loan requirements.

Oh, they lowered Fannie and Freddie standards, increasing the demand for subprime loans.
Increasing demand for crappy loans doesn't lead to more crappy loans?

Subprime mortgages were born on a lie,

A lie pushed by the federal government.

Community and regional banks were unscathed, most actually held on to a mortgage, instead of selling it.

Those banks weren't harmed when subprime mortgages defaulted?

That's why the government was so quick and desperate to bail them out.

 

[beagle9]

Obviously the best way to try to correct a problem like this is by voting. Let’s hope that effort is successful. An uprising or civil war is not necessary at this time and hopefully never will be.

Agree.

 

[Jarlaxle]

If they let people have guns in Germany, you doofus, that means that anyone who wants to do a mass public shooting can do it.....they choose not to.......you idiot....

Sweden has the same rules, and their criminals use fully automatic military rifles.....which are illegal in Sweden, and illegal on the entire continent...they also use hand grenades which are also illegal.

We should make it harder for criminals to get guns by keeping them locked up when we catch them with illegal guns....you are the moron who says we should keep letting them go no matter how many times we catch them, while at the same time wanting to punish people who don't use their legal guns for crime...

You are insane.

No. Joey is the purest, darkest example of undiluted EVIL on the site. He dreams of being Stalin, or Bereia.

 

[Smokin' OP]

Moron...they have trouble dealing with bills...they don't have trouble with owning a gun....the vets on that list would complain about not being able to sleep and then get their guns taken away, you shitheads use every excuse you can to take Rights away from people.....

You are SO FOS, idiot.
It's a background check, for Social Security recipients, you Trumpaciles are perfect cult retards for the orange one.

The Obama rule that Trump nullified had added people receiving Social Security checks for mental illnesses and people deemed unfit to handle their financial affairs to the national background check database.

Had that rule taken effect, the Obama administration predicted it would have added 75,000 names to the national background check database.

Trumpaciles like yourself, shouldn't be around guns, sharp objects, slingshots or BB guns, until you graduate your special ed classes.

 

[Smokin' OP]

If they let people have guns in Germany, you doofus, that means that anyone who wants to do a mass public shooting can do it.....they choose not to.......you idiot....

Sweden has the same rules, and their criminals use fully automatic military rifles.....which are illegal in Sweden, and illegal on the entire continent...they also use hand grenades which are also illegal.

We should make it harder for criminals to get guns by keeping them locked up when we catch them with illegal guns....you are the moron who says we should keep letting them go no matter how many times we catch them, while at the same time wanting to punish people who don't use their legal guns for crime...

You are insane.

The impetus for change was when Germany had two devastating school shootings (one in 2002 and one in 2009). After that, they worked to make their gun control some of the strictest in the world. They've reduced gun-related deaths by half, to around 50 per year. To put that number in perspective, this past May, 66 people were killed by guns just in Chicago, Illinois.

The deaths from the school shootings in Germany were so widely mourned that there was hardly any protest when lawmakers passed measures making gun ownership much more difficult. Their strict laws are unique, but effective. They are the only country where anyone under 25 years old has to take a psychiatric exam before being allowed to apply for a gun license. If they pass, they have to wait a year to apply for a gun, pass skills tests, and have a proven reason for owning a firearm. There was overwhelming support for the new laws. The Los Angeles Times reported that 200,000 guns were even turned over to the government voluntarily.

They don't have gun nut retards, like the US has.

 

[JoeB131]

Do you understand that only left wing shitheads like you are still spreading the lie about Trump and the Reporter? That you have been shown to be lying about this along with the rest of your asshat buddies?

You really need to do some basic fucking research...

Like the M-16 but it can't fire full auto.....big fucking difference you dumb ass....

Not really. I think in the 11 years I was in, I fired the M16 on full auto maybe twice, in boot camp and one other occasion. Full auto wastes bullets. It's why they switched the auto-gunner from the M16 to the M249 in infantry squads. The bullet still has the same range and the same impact. The thing is, it was designed to shoot soldiers, not preschoolers like NRA Pinup Boy Adam Lanza did.

Domestic violence shootings are majority criminals, with long histories of crime and violence shooting their baby mommas...you idiot...you know this and continue to lie.

Guy, 100 million Americans have criminal records. The whole, "Well that person was a criminal" is easy to do in a police state. If he was a real criminal, he never should have had a gun to start with.

If they let people have guns in Germany, you doofus, that means that anyone who wants to do a mass public shooting can do it.....they choose not to.......you idiot....

But that's the point. They don't let ANYONE have a gun in Germany. They let you have a gun only if you have undergone a thorough background check.

Unlike this country, where Joker Holmes could buy a gun, even though everyone in his life knew he was crazy, and they all act surprised when he mows down a dozen people.

 

[JoeB131]

The FBI onlly counts bodies on the ground you dishonest asshole....

only 235 really stupid criminals didn't get the hint that they shouldn't attack victims who have guns and can shoot back...the rest are smart enough to run away, surrender, or if they are shot, only wounded...

You moron.....

A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....

The name of the group doing the study, the year of the study, the number of defensive gun uses and if police and military defensive gun uses are included.....notice the bill clinton and obama defensive gun use research is highlighted.....

If there's not a body on the ground, there wasn't a DGU. Waiving a gun at every scary black man you see is not a DGU.

 

[JoeB131]

Obviously the best way to try to correct a problem like this is by voting. Let’s hope that effort is successful. An uprising or civil war is not necessary at this time and hopefully never will be.

Uh, guy, if we put gun control on the ballot, you guys would lose.

Most Americans are sick and tired of your fetish and it's accompanying body counts.

 

[2aguy]

You are SO FOS, idiot.
It's a background check, for Social Security recipients, you Trumpaciles are perfect cult retards for the orange one.

The Obama rule that Trump nullified had added people receiving Social Security checks for mental illnesses and people deemed unfit to handle their financial affairs to the national background check database.

Had that rule taken effect, the Obama administration predicted it would have added 75,000 names to the national background check database.

Trumpaciles like yourself, shouldn't be around guns, sharp objects, slingshots or BB guns, until you graduate your special ed classes.

Wrong, he included all the other people you idiot...which is why the ACLU and 23 other mental health groups opposed what obama did, you moron.

It was just another jack booted way to take guns away from more people, you dumb ass.

 

[beagle9]

If there's not a body on the ground, there wasn't a DGU. Waiving a gun at every scary black man you see is not a DGU.

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That picture is exactly what Biden told his wife to do, but only with a shot gun... LOL. But you are ok with Biden saying or suggesting it eh ?

 

[2aguy]

The impetus for change was when Germany had two devastating school shootings (one in 2002 and one in 2009). After that, they worked to make their gun control some of the strictest in the world. They've reduced gun-related deaths by half, to around 50 per year. To put that number in perspective, this past May, 66 people were killed by guns just in Chicago, Illinois.

The deaths from the school shootings in Germany were so widely mourned that there was hardly any protest when lawmakers passed measures making gun ownership much more difficult. Their strict laws are unique, but effective. They are the only country where anyone under 25 years old has to take a psychiatric exam before being allowed to apply for a gun license. If they pass, they have to wait a year to apply for a gun, pass skills tests, and have a proven reason for owning a firearm. There was overwhelming support for the new laws. The Los Angeles Times reported that 200,000 guns were even turned over to the government voluntarily.

They don't have gun nut retards, like the US has.

Shithead....they still have access to guns in germany in particular, shotguns.....and shotguns can be used for mass public shootings....they simply don't choose to do it....you dumb ass.

The guy in Kerch, Russia, killed 20 people, wounded 70 people, with the local police station 100 yards away...you idiot.

The people in Germany, for some reason, do not lose their crap the way 12 people in the U.S. did in 2019.

12 people out of over 330,000,000

Moron....

If they pass, they have to wait a year to apply for a gun, pass skills tests, and have a proven reason for owning a firearm.

They can still get the gun.....mass public shooters plan their attacks sometimes years before the attack, you idiot......so all those laws mean nothing to a mass public shooter, you doofus.

 

[JoeB131]

Wrong, he included all the other people you idiot...which is why the ACLU and 23 other mental health groups opposed what obama did, you moron.

It was just another jack booted way to take guns away from more people, you dumb ass.

The ACLU thinks we should let ax murderers out on technicalities.

The problem with thinking that gun ownership should be a "right" is that you have to prove why Adam Lanza or Joker Holmes SHOULDN'T have a gun.

By the time you've done that, they've already mowed down a room full of preschoolers.

 

[2aguy]

If there's not a body on the ground, there wasn't a DGU. Waiving a gun at every scary black man you see is not a DGU.

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Shit head....the crowd who went throught that neighborhood was majority white, left wing asshats............the blm who burned down black neighborhoods were white democrats...you idiot.

 

[2aguy]

The ACLU thinks we should let ax murderers out on technicalities.

The problem with thinking that gun ownership should be a "right" is that you have to prove why Adam Lanza or Joker Holmes SHOULDN'T have a gun.

By the time you've done that, they've already mowed down a room full of preschoolers.

Yeah, that whole "innocent till proven guilty" thing really upsets fascists like you......

12 mass public shooters in 2019....out of 330 million Americans......

73 total killed.

Deer kill 200 every year.

Ladders kill 350 every year.

lawn mowers kill between 90-100 every year.

bathtubs kill 350 every year.

Mass public shooters are not an issue.....you need them to be an issue because they are the only ones you can use to scare people into supporting your gun grabbing.

 

[JoeB131]

Shithead....they still have access to guns in germany in particular, shotguns.....and shotguns can be used for mass public shootings....they simply don't choose to do it....you dumb ass.

The guy in Kerch, Russia, killed 20 people, wounded 70 people, with the local police station 100 yards away...you idiot.

The people in Germany, for some reason, do not lose their crap the way 12 people in the U.S. did in 2019.

12 people out of over 330,000,000

Actually, there were 417 mass shootings in 2019.

There were more mass shootings than days in 2019

365 days. 417 mass shootings.

www.cbsnews.com

The mass shooting you talk about was in a war zone in Crimea... Yes, we expect people to get shot in war zones.

We don't expect our streets to be war zones.

 

[Moonglow]

Kyle Rittenhouse was released after shooting protestors he should still be in jail?

 

[JoeB131]

Shit head....the crowd who went throught that neighborhood was majority white, left wing asshats............the blm who burned down black neighborhoods were white democrats...you idiot.

Uh, okay, I think there are some white democrats under your bed. Better have your gun out to deal with that.

Yeah, that whole "innocent till proven guilty" thing really upsets fascists like you......

If you wanted to lock up Lanza or Holmes without a trial or hearing, I'd be the first one to object to it.
Not letting them have guns until they can prove they aren't crazy people seems to be prudent, though. In a sane world.

Look, man, when they give you the Rorschach test for your next gun, just don't say, "Someone getting his head blowed off". That's a dead giveaway.

Mass public shooters are not an issue.....you need them to be an issue because they are the only ones you can use to scare people into supporting your gun grabbing.

I would say that the 417 mass shootings we have a year are the tip of the iceberg. The iceberg is the 39,000 people killed by guns and 70,000 wounded every year.

Here's the thing. The best argument for gun control is a conversation with a gun fetishist. You guys just come off as being a little nutty, between wanting to overthrow the government and point your gun at any scary black person you see.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Uh, guy, if we put gun control on the ballot, you guys would lose.

Worked for Clinton in 1994........right?

 

[Smokin' OP]

Shithead....they still have access to guns in germany in particular, shotguns.....and shotguns can be used for mass public shootings....they simply don't choose to do it....you dumb ass.

The guy in Kerch, Russia, killed 20 people, wounded 70 people, with the local police station 100 yards away...you idiot.

The people in Germany, for some reason, do not lose their crap the way 12 people in the U.S. did in 2019.

12 people out of over 330,000,000

Moron....

If they pass, they have to wait a year to apply for a gun, pass skills tests, and have a proven reason for owning a firearm.

They can still get the gun.....mass public shooters plan their attacks sometimes years before the attack, you idiot......so all those laws mean nothing to a mass public shooter, you doofus.

Holy fuck, what a moron.

Germans have access to guns, with a license, a psych exam if you're under 25, demonstrate a need for the weapon and have insurance.

Mass shooting with a shotgun?
Pump shotguns are banned, so much for your mass shootings, dumbass.

'The guy in Kerch, Russia, killed 20 people, wounded 70 people, with the local police station 100 yards away...you idiot'.
NOT GERMANY, RETARD.

12 people? WTF?