They dont want to take your guns

[2aguy]

There will always be fringe nutbags. In her case, she recieved as much grief from the left as she did from the right. She was expecting pushback from the right, but instant condemnation and self policing by the left is what put her in her place. A similar stunt by a right winger would have had them recieving praise as a patriot, and calls to run for office.

Obama ordered the FBI, Dept. of Justice, the State Dept. and others in his administration to spy on and legally attack Trump and his officials...it was an actual coup...we know for a fact that the FBI used fake information to lie to federal judges to get FISA warrants to spy on Trump and his people...we also know that the FBI, knowing Flynn didn't lie, persecuted him anyway.......from comey and his minions to hliary, who suppllied the fake information to obama who ordered the FBI to use it.......

 

[BULLDOG]

Obama ordered the FBI, Dept. of Justice, the State Dept. and others in his administration to spy on and legally attack Trump and his officials...it was an actual coup...we know for a fact that the FBI used fake information to lie to federal judges to get FISA warrants to spy on Trump and his people...we also know that the FBI, knowing Flynn didn't lie, persecuted him anyway.......from comey and his minions to hliary, who suppllied the fake information to obama who ordered the FBI to use it.......

And the conpiracy theory continues to grow.

 

[2aguy]

And the conpiracy theory continues to grow.

Nope....we know the FBI did this......and the only way the FBI goes to those lengths is with the knowledge and permission of the President...

 

[petro]

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Gun nuts demand military style weapons because they like feeling more prepared for their next insurrection.

And retards say the dumbest things

 

[bigrebnc1775]

And the conpiracy theory continues to grow.

Yes indeed you tards keep pushing Trump Russian collusion

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Then explain this picture
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It's historical let's put it to the test.

 

[Rigby5]

Gun nuts demand military style weapons because they like feeling more prepared for their next insurrection.

First of all, "military style" rifles simply are the best, cheapest, most common, and easy to get parts and repairs for.
Second is that no government has lasted for more than about 400 years, either from invasion, rebellion, etc., so anyone NOT prepared for any side of an "insurrection" is very irresponsible.

 

[Rigby5]

Nope. I mean like when you gun nuts start your planned attack on our government. That's what you gun nuts constantly rant about.
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When does government NOT deserve to "be attacked"?
The government is always evil, like Prohibition, federal gun control, the War on Drugs, mandated sentences, 3 strikes, asset forfeiture, Vietnam, the invasion of Iraq, etc.
These are not only obvious crimes, but deliberate mass murder.

 

[Rigby5]

You thread title says, "Take your guns", and then your post says, "Gun control".

Which one is it?

Any form of "gun control" is an attempt to "take your guns".
If there are unstable people who are too dangerous to have guns, you do NOT try to take their guns, but instead obviously have to put them in custody.
There is no means by which you can leave dangerous people unsupervised.
If you just try to "take their guns", not only is that far too dangerous for the police, but they will just easily obtain other weapons.
So attempting to take only some guns is insane and actually only a cover for an obvious attempt to try to take all guns.

 

[Rigby5]

Where does the constitution designate which politicians are supposed to be afraid? Perhaps liberals need to scare a few crazy right wingers. We both know the NRA supports scaring politicians, right?

ALL politicians should be afraid of the people.
But they obviously are not and instead are more abusive all the time, like Vietnam, Iraq, the War on Drugs, mandated sentences, asset forfeiture, repealing Roe Vs Wade, etc.

 

[Rigby5]

I don't know of any gun grabbers except the pretend ones who live in the fears of gun nuts. It's a little late for you to pretend you don't want military guns for your upcoming insurrection attempts.

Since over 90% of the federal government is outright illegal, lies to us, murdered millions of innocents in places like Vietnam, Iraq, Libya, etc., then how are we not obligated to push for an "insurrection"?

 

[Rigby5]

"Don't crazy right wing gun nuts say we have to have military weapons so we can threaten politicians?"
No.
No one says that.
Except you.

I say it because 90% of what the federal government does is totally illegal, criminal, and needs to be stopped by any means necessary.
Peaceful would be nice, but its way beyond "whatever it takes" at this point.

 

[BULLDOG]

Since over 90% of the federal government is outright illegal, lies to us, murdered millions of innocents in places like Vietnam, Iraq, Libya, etc., then how are we not obligated to push for an "insurrection"?

Yet you don't like being identified as the insurrectionist that you are.

 

[Rigby5]

What in this bill constitutes such a dire emergency?

- It makes the federal background check look harder at juvenile records for buyers under 21;
- It defines dealers more specifically;
- It increases the penalties for straw buyers;
- It says that boyfriends who beat up their girlfriends can be barred just as husbands who beat up their wives;
- Supports state-level crisis intervention programs; and
- Improves mental health services.

Who, exactly, is having their rights stripped here? Honest question: Without invoking slippery slope, how are the restrictions placed forth here infringing the Second Amendment rights of the public? It seems to me that the people hindered by this bill are juvenile offenders trying to buy a gun, dealers trying to skirt the restrictions, straw buyers, and guys who beat up their girlfriends.

You miss the entire point.
Obviously NONE of that is even remotely going to at all reduce any possible violence, in any way.
The only way to ever reduce any of the violence is will free local mental health care.
It can't be done federally, and would be totally illegal at the federal level.

Federal background checks are totally illegal. Feds have no authority, ability, accountability, or accuracy.
There is no legal means by which anyone can "define" a dealer. Anyone has the right to buy and sell as they wish.
There is no legal way to claim anyone is a "straw buyer", since anyone who buys can decide after use, that they don't like it or a change of finances make it so they can no longer afford it.
Sure people who beat up other people may be a problem, but you can NOT take property without the person having the opportunity to "face their accusers" with a day in court, first.
That is a 4th amendment guarantee.
State level is still totally inappropriate for crisis intervention programs, which must be local.
Mental health services vastly need improvement, but that has NOTHING at all to do with federal gun confiscation programs, and can only be done locally.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Yet you don't like being identified as the insurrectionist that you are.

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Well, hell! I think personally killing a thousand congress critters with your selfie stick in the span of an hour would be quite an accomplishment! If it was me, I'd be proud of it.

Certainly a greater accomplishment than making phony porn pictures of people who are much higher than you are on the social scale.

But keep it up.. It's probably the only thing keeping you out of prison. We all need hobbies.



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[Rigby5]

Yet you don't like being identified as the insurrectionist that you are.

Who said I do not like being identified as an "insurrectionist"?
Everyone in this country should be proud of our "insurrectionist" history.
If not for "insurrectionists", we would all still not only be British, but rules by a draconian monarchy.
The reality is that anyone who is not an "insurrectionist" is a traitor and should be deported.

What you fail to admit is that over 90% of what the federal government does is totally illegal.
Like illegal use of force in Vietnam, Panama, Grenada, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, etc. and most federal laws are illegal, like Prohibition, the War on Drugs, mandated sentences, asset forfeiture, etc.
Almost the whole federal government are crooks and criminals.

 

[Rigby5]

And the conpiracy theory continues to grow.

No "theory" involved.
I am anti-Trump, but clearly both impeachments, Jan 6 hearings, Mar-a-lago search, etc., were totally and completely illegal.
Those actions by the feds were so criminal as to make the entire current government a bunch of crooks who all belong in jail.
Things like the Steele Dossier are not "theory".
They are absolute proof of government crimes.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Who said I do not like being identified as an "insurrectionist"?
Everyone in this country should be proud of our "insurrectionist" history.
If not for "insurrectionists", we would all still not only be British, but rules by a draconian monarchy.
The reality is that anyone who is not an "insurrectionist" is a traitor and should be deported.

What you fail to admit is that over 90% of what the federal government does is totally illegal.
Like illegal use of force in Vietnam, Panama, Grenada, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, etc. and most federal laws are illegal, like Prohibition, the War on Drugs, mandated sentences, asset forfeiture, etc.
Almost the whole federal government are crooks and criminals.

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They still have not figured out that our feelings are not hurt by all those names they like using on us.............

Insurrectionist

Racist

Fascist

Anything-phobe

Anything-denier

Anti-vaxxer

BLAH-BLAH-BLAH-BLH-BLAH-BLAH.



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[Captain Caveman]

Any form of "gun control" is an attempt to "take your guns".
If there are unstable people who are too dangerous to have guns, you do NOT try to take their guns, but instead obviously have to put them in custody.
There is no means by which you can leave dangerous people unsupervised.
If you just try to "take their guns", not only is that far too dangerous for the police, but they will just easily obtain other weapons.
So attempting to take only some guns is insane and actually only a cover for an obvious attempt to try to take all guns.

In the UK, the government cannot stop you from owning and using a shot gun. Most Americans don't know that. The way it works is, the police need to find a reason why you're not suitable to own the shotgun, so just need to know the serial numbers, record of sales, and your gun cabinet is secure. So you obtain a certificate where the information is collated. The only thing that stops you from owning a shot gun, is you. So the police will check your background, your police record, your driving licence, your medical history, and the referees you supplied. There's no age limit, even 9 year olds have had shotgun certificates issued. So who's taking your shot gun away? You?

With other firearms, that's where you need to make a case on why you should own one. So if you're part of a gun club etc ...

One thing is for sure, a responsible society wouldn't allow citizens to wander around public areas with guns.

So with strict gun regs, the UK government cannot deny a citizen from owning and using a shotgun. That is down to the conduct of the citizen, and if they're dumb enough to say they need a rifle or long barreled hand gun for self defence, kiss your arse goodbye to owning a firearm.

And that's why many American gun owners are thick as pig shit. They want a gun for self defence, willingness to shoot others, yet they think they're the good safe guy. You can't get any more fucking stupid than that