These are the people you folks want to kick out.

[M14 Shooter]

Federal immigration law should be changed so that if you are ever caught here illegally, you will be sent back, without any hope of ever returning legally.

 

[Redfish]

Ah yes..

They were "So" screwed up, that the US sought fit to undo the Democratic elections many of them had.

And they were "So" screwed up, the elections were generally undone at the behest of some American "interest" (read: Private firm that wanted the tax payer to foot the bill to make these countries yield to their business plans).

Seriously man.

Pick up a freakin history book.

Elections is the issue with you?
Elections are fixed all the time, we still see it in this day and age.
Election were just to make it look legitimate even though the fix was in, Sal.

Fail

The failure is on your part.

It is a failure to understand that international misdeeds have consequences.

Yes, the USA is the worst nation in the history of the world and deserves to be destroyed------------------------according to obama and swallow.

 

[Redfish]

Federal immigration law should be changed so that if you are ever caught here illegally, you will be sent back, without any hope of ever returning legally.

thats pretty much the way it is in every other country in the entire world.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Federal immigration law should be changed so that if you are ever caught here illegally, you will be sent back, without any hope of ever returning legally.

thats pretty much the way it is in every other country in the entire world.

Funny how liberals seek to change the US to the "world standard", except when doing so costs them votes.

 

[Kondor3]

Federal immigration law should be changed so that if you are ever caught here illegally, you will be sent back, without any hope of ever returning legally.

thats pretty much the way it is in every other country in the entire world.

Funny how liberals seek to change the US to the "world standard", except when doing so costs them votes.

Noticed that, didja?

 

[Sallow]

Federal immigration law should be changed so that if you are ever caught here illegally, you will be sent back, without any hope of ever returning legally.

thats pretty much the way it is in every other country in the entire world.

What other country has 700 or so military bases in foreign lands?

You might find one or 2 with a small handful of foreign bases.

Might.

 

[Bfgrn]

Their countries were screwed up long before we got involved with them, Sal.

Ah yes..

They were "So" screwed up, that the US sought fit to undo the Democratic elections many of them had.

And they were "So" screwed up, the elections were generally undone at the behest of some American "interest" (read: Private firm that wanted the tax payer to foot the bill to make these countries yield to their business plans).

Seriously man.

Pick up a freakin history book.

You blab a LOT of nonsense, while at the same time NEVER posting any information.

So WHAT elections were "undone" at the behest of some private firm that wanted the tax payer to foot the bill to make these countries yield to their business plans, you nut?

Please list them.

And list the nams of the private firms that destroyed them.

While you fail to do that, as you will, I would like to take this opportunity to suggest you smoke less weed, and spend less time picking up incidental "history" from the chat function of your favorite free porn sites.

I posted this once, but you want to just keep on parroting what you are told.

Do you KNOW history?

United Fruit's Overthrow of the Guatemalan Government

By the end of the 1940s, the American-owned United Fruit Company controlled 42 percent of the land in Guatemala and wasn't using much of it.

In the early 1950s, democratically elected Guatemalan president Jacobo Arbenz carried out a land reform package that included the forced purchase of idle land owned by the United Fruit Company and redistributing it to indigenous farmers. The company approached Allen Dulles, the former president of United Fruit in the 1930s who had become the director of the CIA, and offered to use their fruit transportation network to smuggle arms into the country to spark a rebel movement.

Dulles, framing land redistribution as a patently communist act and a sign that Guatemala was courting the Soviets as patrons, sanctioned a CIA-backed overthrow of Arbenz, led by Guatemalan army officer Carlos Castillo Armas. The U.S. agreed to supply aircraft for the rebel army to bomb Guatemala City, set up propaganda outlets in Latin America, bribed Arbenz's military commanders into surrendering and pressured the American media not to report on the story.

In 1954, Arbenz resigned and was replaced by Castillo Armas, who outlawed political parties and shut down opposition media outlets. In 1960, a 36-year-long civil war began in Guatemala.

 

[Slyhunter]

Saw this today.

It's hard to watch.

I feel nothing but empathy for this poor kid.

She watched her brother get shot and was told she was about to become property..or die.

Cable News Finally Asks A Real Migrant Teenager About The Immigration Crisis | ThinkProgress

Maria, a 17-year-old, paid a coyote to bring her into the United States after her brother was killed by a gang and she was threatened with death if she did not join it. Fighting tears, she described to Díaz-Balart the process of crossing the border as “horrible” and explained that she decided to enter the country “just to save my own life so that I could live my dreams, so I could help my family.” Deportation “would be a tragedy, it would be a certain death for me,” she added. “Everything that’s happened to me in my life, I would just know that that would be the last day.” Watch it:

It's ******* incredible that people want to turn their backs on these kids.

Even moreso since it was this country that created the hellholes they live in.

We can't save the world.
What about the children in Cambodia, Somalia, Thailand, etc don't they deserve to have food, shelter, and medical care too?

 

[koshergrl]

Ah yes..

They were "So" screwed up, that the US sought fit to undo the Democratic elections many of them had.

And they were "So" screwed up, the elections were generally undone at the behest of some American "interest" (read: Private firm that wanted the tax payer to foot the bill to make these countries yield to their business plans).

Seriously man.

Pick up a freakin history book.

You blab a LOT of nonsense, while at the same time NEVER posting any information.

So WHAT elections were "undone" at the behest of some private firm that wanted the tax payer to foot the bill to make these countries yield to their business plans, you nut?

Please list them.

And list the nams of the private firms that destroyed them.

While you fail to do that, as you will, I would like to take this opportunity to suggest you smoke less weed, and spend less time picking up incidental "history" from the chat function of your favorite free porn sites.

I posted this once, but you want to just keep on parroting what you are told.

Do you KNOW history?

United Fruit's Overthrow of the Guatemalan Government

By the end of the 1940s, the American-owned United Fruit Company controlled 42 percent of the land in Guatemala and wasn't using much of it.

In the early 1950s, democratically elected Guatemalan president Jacobo Arbenz carried out a land reform package that included the forced purchase of idle land owned by the United Fruit Company and redistributing it to indigenous farmers. The company approached Allen Dulles, the former president of United Fruit in the 1930s who had become the director of the CIA, and offered to use their fruit transportation network to smuggle arms into the country to spark a rebel movement.

Dulles, framing land redistribution as a patently communist act and a sign that Guatemala was courting the Soviets as patrons, sanctioned a CIA-backed overthrow of Arbenz, led by Guatemalan army officer Carlos Castillo Armas. The U.S. agreed to supply aircraft for the rebel army to bomb Guatemala City, set up propaganda outlets in Latin America, bribed Arbenz's military commanders into surrendering and pressured the American media not to report on the story.

In 1954, Arbenz resigned and was replaced by Castillo Armas, who outlawed political parties and shut down opposition media outlets. In 1960, a 36-year-long civil war began in Guatemala.

Oh, okay.

So it's not corporate stuff at all. It's communism that destroyed them.

Got it.

 

[JoeB131]

We're on page 10 of this thread, and not one of the pro-sex industry, pro-human trafficking loons has said a word condemning human trafficking, or the pieces of shit who are abusing these kids at the behest of our current admin.

Instead, all they can do is wax idiotic about how DARE the right care about kids when they are 1. pro-life or 2. not currently adopting children.

Insane. Nobody needs to listen to these wackos.

Abortion and Porn are your obsessions.

The rest of are talking about the actual problem.

 

[koshergrl]

The actual problem is human trafficking.

We all know you don't have a problem with that. That was rather my point.

 

[koshergrl]

"
Yet where a bipartisan Congress and a Republican president saw an opportunity to protect children from unscrupulous adults, the Obama White House sees an example of unintended consequences. “The Obama administration says the law is partly responsible for tying its hands in dealing with the current influx of children,” reports the New York Times.
Helping Human Traffickers

Dana Milbank at the Washington Post explains the reasoning. When Congress passed and Bush signed a law that gave victims of human trafficking an 18-month process before deportation, “it was exploited by the very traffickers it was meant to target, who encouraged this huge emigration of children from Central America.”

On Immigration Crisis, Obama, Not Bush, Is To Blame

 

[koshergrl]

"...the rise of unaccompanied minors has risen dramatically only since 2012—the year Obama instituted deferred action. To his credit, Milbank admits the obvious, saying, “Central American parents may have been led to believe Obama’s leniency toward the so-called ‘Dreamers’ would benefit these current arrivals.”
Of course they believed it. The White House and its defenders have tried to say deferred action had nothing to do with attracting the flood of new arrivals since the amnesty only applies to kids arriving before 2007. Many media reports, however, say that parents encouraging their kids to cross assume that the Obama administration won’t actually enforce that part of the policy. Considering the evidence, who can blame them?
If there are any unintended consequences of the Bush era trafficking law, they are these: At the time it was signed, no one could have foreseen that the Obama administration would (1) grant blanket amnesty to nearly all illegal minors, and (2) assist parents abusing anti-trafficking regulations to benefit from that amnesty. "

On Immigration Crisis, Obama, Not Bush, Is To Blame

 

[koshergrl]

"
The fundamental cause of the childhood illegal immigration wave we are seeing is not a compassionate law trying to protect the victims of human trafficking. It’s the president’s unilateral decision not to enforce America’s immigration laws on an entire class of people. The latter act is lawless, and it is breeding even more lawlessness."
On Immigration Crisis, Obama, Not Bush, Is To Blame

 

[Kondor3]

Have we figured out yet, that this shit is not our fault, and that we aren't obliged to fix it?

 

[Bfgrn]

You blab a LOT of nonsense, while at the same time NEVER posting any information.

So WHAT elections were "undone" at the behest of some private firm that wanted the tax payer to foot the bill to make these countries yield to their business plans, you nut?

Please list them.

And list the nams of the private firms that destroyed them.

While you fail to do that, as you will, I would like to take this opportunity to suggest you smoke less weed, and spend less time picking up incidental "history" from the chat function of your favorite free porn sites.

I posted this once, but you want to just keep on parroting what you are told.

Do you KNOW history?

United Fruit's Overthrow of the Guatemalan Government

By the end of the 1940s, the American-owned United Fruit Company controlled 42 percent of the land in Guatemala and wasn't using much of it.

In the early 1950s, democratically elected Guatemalan president Jacobo Arbenz carried out a land reform package that included the forced purchase of idle land owned by the United Fruit Company and redistributing it to indigenous farmers. The company approached Allen Dulles, the former president of United Fruit in the 1930s who had become the director of the CIA, and offered to use their fruit transportation network to smuggle arms into the country to spark a rebel movement.

Dulles, framing land redistribution as a patently communist act and a sign that Guatemala was courting the Soviets as patrons, sanctioned a CIA-backed overthrow of Arbenz, led by Guatemalan army officer Carlos Castillo Armas. The U.S. agreed to supply aircraft for the rebel army to bomb Guatemala City, set up propaganda outlets in Latin America, bribed Arbenz's military commanders into surrendering and pressured the American media not to report on the story.

In 1954, Arbenz resigned and was replaced by Castillo Armas, who outlawed political parties and shut down opposition media outlets. In 1960, a 36-year-long civil war began in Guatemala.

Oh, okay.

So it's not corporate stuff at all. It's communism that destroyed them.

Got it.

Seek out an adult, clearly you are unable to comprehend.

The PEOPLE of Guatemala democratically elected president Jacobo Arbenz. He was going to take unused Guatemalan land and give it to the PEOPLE of Guatemala to farm. The director of the CIA helped smuggle arms into the country to spark a rebel movement to protect the United Fruit Company from losing imperialistic domination of Guatemala.

 

[Kondor3]

...The director of the CIA helped smuggle arms into the country to spark a rebel movement to protect the United Fruit Company from losing imperialistic domination of Guatemala.

And how long ago was this?

 

[JoeB131]

Have we figured out yet, that this shit is not our fault, and that we aren't obliged to fix it?

Perhaps not. Not that I've ever seen you Wingnuts say the same about the problems in the Middle East. Maybe if these kids were on top of a shitload of oil, you'd care about them.

 

[JoeB131]

The actual problem is human trafficking.

We all know you don't have a problem with that. That was rather my point.

No, the problem is we have refugee children fleeing violence when we haven't fixed our immigration system seven years after REPUBLICANS admitted it was broken.

You can save the "Human Trafficking" drama for whatever shit you are watching on the Lifetime Channel.

 

[koshergrl]

Refugee children have always fled violence. The reason there's a problem now is that your admin, that sees children and women as chattel (as do you) is are using them to encourage criminal human trafficking for political reasons.


"
As expected, the president’s mainstream-media allies portray Obama as a man struggling to manage a crisis beyond his control, a crisis their thin and exhausted playbook instructs them to blame on George W. Bush. Nonsense."

"If you’re keeping track, mid-spring was before the ramping up of the ongoing invasion, which already involves close to 300,000 illegal aliens (less than 20 percent of whom are, according to the New York Times, “unaccompanied minors&#8221. It was, however, months after what we now know was the Obama “Homeland Security” Department’s solicitation of escort services to help handle an anticipated arrival of 65,000 illegal-alien minors.

"As one would expect, the usual Obama apologists claim that the administration was not conspiring in the invasion. Rather, it was preparing for a humanitarian crisis it had heard alarms about but was somehow powerless to avert. On its face, this is laughable: The executive branch has many ways of discouraging and stopping attempts by foreigners — whether as an armed force or in overwhelming numbers — to enter our country. More significantly, the facts here point unmistakably to willful administration collusion."

"by planning to dispatch the new arrivals to ORR, the administration implicitly presumed that they should be deemed refugees, not excludable or deportable illegal aliens.

"The mission of the ORR is to settle “new populations” within the United States, not to detain them pending expulsion. Clearly, the plan was — is — to seed thousands of illegal aliens in cities and towns throughout the country. That is perfectly consistent with other aspects of the administration’s radical agenda, such as “Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing,” Obama’s plan to have the executive branch engineer the racial and ethnic composition of American neighborhoods.

"The president has spent nearly six years giving effective legal immunity to millions of illegal aliens already here. His administration, meanwhile, hooks them on the government gravy train and fights state efforts to detain them, deny social services to them, and prevent them from fraudulently voting. Under those circumstances, the rolling out of a federal red carpet for teeming masses of illegal aliens must be understood as intentional."

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/383159/obama-caused-border-disaster-andrew-c-mccarthy