These 8 Rich Liberals Are Using Super PACs to Buy the 2014 Election

[Statistikhengst]

hey, the rightwingnuts love citizens united.

or did you think it was just for the wingers?

It's the lefties that are all up in arms about rich people giving money to pols unless of course those pols are democrats

I'd like to see Citizen's United, reversed.

You guys? Not so much.

Who are you guys?

You're stuck in your little 2 dimensional world. I never bought into the corporations are people thing.

So, you thought Romney was lying, too, eh?

So did 51.01% of voters in November, 2012.

 

[Statistikhengst]

A number of Righties are just some of the most fascinating creatures I have ever witnessed.

One moment, War is good. The next, they all become pacifists.

One moment, Citizen's united is great. The next, they are all socialist/commies!!

One moment, they love Presidential executive orders, but as soon as the black dude is deigning to put his feet up on the Oval Office desk, they just hate those EOs.

I think the GOP should be renamed JAH.

"Jekyl and Hyde".

 

[zeke]

Who are you guys?

You're stuck in your little 2 dimensional world. I never bought into the corporations are people thing.

Why not skull? You seem to have "bought into" any other line of bullshit that Republicans have had to offer.
Why not Citizens United? Is your "corporation" not a person?

 

[occupied]

hey, the rightwingnuts love citizens united.

or did you think it was just for the wingers?

It's the lefties that are all up in arms about rich people giving money to pols unless of course those pols are democrats

I'd like to see Citizen's United, reversed.

You guys? Not so much.

Who are you guys?

You're stuck in your little 2 dimensional world. I never bought into the corporations are people thing.

But you seem to really like the candidates they approve for you to vote for.

 

[Statistikhengst]

Well, now that they have seen that DEMS have upped their game, now they are not so certain that corporations are people, after all...

 

[Freewill]

hey, the rightwingnuts love citizens united.

or did you think it was just for the wingers?

It's the lefties that are all up in arms about rich people giving money to pols unless of course those pols are democrats

no one is going to lose elections because your guys perverted our entire political system.

you wanted it. live with it.

You guys?

Who are they?

BTW I thought you would know by now that I am not a member of any political flock and I do not vote for anyone but 3rd party candidates

I found out that voting for third party candidates ensures a democrat win. It happened when I voted for Perot and we got the worse president in my life time, WJC. Sad as it is, until something changes, voting third party in national elections is the same as either not voting or voting democrat, in my opinion.

 

[jillian]

hey, the rightwingnuts love citizens united.

or did you think it was just for the wingers?

It's the lefties that are all up in arms about rich people giving money to pols unless of course those pols are democrats

no one is going to lose elections because your guys perverted our entire political system.

you wanted it. live with it.

You guys?

Who are they?

BTW I thought you would know by now that I am not a member of any political flock and I do not vote for anyone but 3rd party candidates

I found out that voting for third party candidates ensures a democrat win. It happened when I voted for Perot and we got the worse president in my life time, WJC. Sad as it is, until something changes, voting third party in national elections is the same as either not voting or voting democrat, in my opinion.

if you vote third-party, you enable rightwingut loons. no offense, i don't have any party i agree with fully but i know as sure as i sit here i will never vote to put someone on the right in power. my days of voting for a GOP candidate because I don't like the democrat are over. And after watching what Ralph Nader left us with, third party candidates are out of the question.

 

[Mac1958]

Doesn't matter to me which party is buying what.

Until we get money out of politics and slap term limits on these creeps the decay continues.

.

 

[Freewill]

hey, the rightwingnuts love citizens united.

or did you think it was just for the wingers?

It's the lefties that are all up in arms about rich people giving money to pols unless of course those pols are democrats

no one is going to lose elections because your guys perverted our entire political system.

you wanted it. live with it.

You guys?

Who are they?

BTW I thought you would know by now that I am not a member of any political flock and I do not vote for anyone but 3rd party candidates

I found out that voting for third party candidates ensures a democrat win. It happened when I voted for Perot and we got the worse president in my life time, WJC. Sad as it is, until something changes, voting third party in national elections is the same as either not voting or voting democrat, in my opinion.

if you vote third-party, you enable rightwingut loons. no offense, i don't have any party i agree with fully but i know as sure as i sit here i will never vote to put someone on the right in power. my days of voting for a GOP candidate because I don't like the democrat are over. And after watching what Ralph Nader left us with, third party candidates are out of the question.

You have no party, right. No offense but for someone to believe that they would have to have never read your posts. Please at least try to be honest.
The GOP, unless you have not noticed, has not been in power for 8 years, yet it is they you are mad at because of the terrible state of the Union. Sure you will blame them for being obstructionist because that is all you have to blame the disaster on. But that is far from the truth. Obama got every major initiative he wanted and you are seeing the results, yet your mind is closed, and you want us to believe you would have ever voted for anyone other then a democrat....right.

 

[Freewill]

Doesn't matter to me which party is buying what.

Until we get money out of politics and slap term limits on these creeps the decay continues.

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Financial Advisors are the problem. Profit at any cost. There is no way to get money out of politics it is the greed of the stock market that is the real problem.

 

[Mac1958]

Doesn't matter to me which party is buying what.

Until we get money out of politics and slap term limits on these creeps the decay continues.

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Financial Advisors are the problem. Profit at any cost. There is no way to get money out of politics it is the greed of the stock market that is the real problem.

Well, as a financial advisor, I'd have to disagree.

What does a financial advisor have to do with money in politics, precisely?

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[jillian]

hey, the rightwingnuts love citizens united.

or did you think it was just for the wingers?

It's the lefties that are all up in arms about rich people giving money to pols unless of course those pols are democrats

no one is going to lose elections because your guys perverted our entire political system.

you wanted it. live with it.

You guys?

Who are they?

BTW I thought you would know by now that I am not a member of any political flock and I do not vote for anyone but 3rd party candidates

I found out that voting for third party candidates ensures a democrat win. It happened when I voted for Perot and we got the worse president in my life time, WJC. Sad as it is, until something changes, voting third party in national elections is the same as either not voting or voting democrat, in my opinion.

if you vote third-party, you enable rightwingut loons. no offense, i don't have any party i agree with fully but i know as sure as i sit here i will never vote to put someone on the right in power. my days of voting for a GOP candidate because I don't like the democrat are over. And after watching what Ralph Nader left us with, third party candidates are out of the question.

You have no party, right. No offense but for someone to believe that they would have to have never read your posts. Please at least try to be honest.
The GOP, unless you have not noticed, has not been in power for 8 years, yet it is they you are mad at because of the terrible state of the Union. Sure you will blame them for being obstructionist because that is all you have to blame the disaster on. But that is far from the truth. Obama got every major initiative he wanted and you are seeing the results, yet your mind is closed, and you want us to believe you would have ever voted for anyone other then a democrat....right.

you don't know anything about me except that i find rightwingnut extremists odious.

that has nothing to do with the fact that i have, many times, voted for GOP candidates.... which also has nothing to do with having or not having a party affiliation.

if you weren't a good brainwashed soldier, you'd understand that.

 

[Freewill]

Doesn't matter to me which party is buying what.

Until we get money out of politics and slap term limits on these creeps the decay continues.

.

Financial Advisors are the problem. Profit at any cost. There is no way to get money out of politics it is the greed of the stock market that is the real problem.

Well, as a financial advisor, I'd have to disagree.

What does a financial advisor have to do with money in politics, precisely?

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Yeah, I know you are a FA that was the point. Where do you think the money in politics come from and why? What if it were possible to remove the stock market from the economic equation. Would companies then be buying influence? How many of your clients come to you and say, "hey I really like this company and want it to be successful because of the product they make, I think it beneficial to society." Verses, "hey I really like this company and want to invest in it because I think it will make me a lot of money." Who do you advise people to invest in, companies you are wanting to be successful or ones that you think will make your clients money?

Now, can you name the problem that buying influence has caused to the average joe in America. Give an example such as, not taxing corporations nearly enough.

 

[Freewill]

hey, the rightwingnuts love citizens united.

or did you think it was just for the wingers?

It's the lefties that are all up in arms about rich people giving money to pols unless of course those pols are democrats

no one is going to lose elections because your guys perverted our entire political system.

you wanted it. live with it.

You guys?

Who are they?

BTW I thought you would know by now that I am not a member of any political flock and I do not vote for anyone but 3rd party candidates

I found out that voting for third party candidates ensures a democrat win. It happened when I voted for Perot and we got the worse president in my life time, WJC. Sad as it is, until something changes, voting third party in national elections is the same as either not voting or voting democrat, in my opinion.

if you vote third-party, you enable rightwingut loons. no offense, i don't have any party i agree with fully but i know as sure as i sit here i will never vote to put someone on the right in power. my days of voting for a GOP candidate because I don't like the democrat are over. And after watching what Ralph Nader left us with, third party candidates are out of the question.

You have no party, right. No offense but for someone to believe that they would have to have never read your posts. Please at least try to be honest.
The GOP, unless you have not noticed, has not been in power for 8 years, yet it is they you are mad at because of the terrible state of the Union. Sure you will blame them for being obstructionist because that is all you have to blame the disaster on. But that is far from the truth. Obama got every major initiative he wanted and you are seeing the results, yet your mind is closed, and you want us to believe you would have ever voted for anyone other then a democrat....right.

you don't know anything about me except that i find rightwingnut extremists odious.

that has nothing to do with the fact that i have, many times, voted for GOP candidates.... which also has nothing to do with having or not having a party affiliation.

if you weren't a good brainwashed soldier, you'd understand that.

I only know what I see on these boards and you can deny what I see as much as you want. You can call me a political hack if you want and I am not sure I would disagree. I am completely honest I never voted for a democrat president and I seriously doubt I ever will. I am rightwing conservative all the way and would never try and convince anyone otherwise.

 

[Mac1958]

Doesn't matter to me which party is buying what.

Until we get money out of politics and slap term limits on these creeps the decay continues.

.

Financial Advisors are the problem. Profit at any cost. There is no way to get money out of politics it is the greed of the stock market that is the real problem.

Well, as a financial advisor, I'd have to disagree.

What does a financial advisor have to do with money in politics, precisely?

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Yeah, I know you are a FA that was the point. Where do you think the money in politics come from and why? What if it were possible to remove the stock market from the economic equation. Would companies then be buying influence? How many of your clients come to you and say, "hey I really like this company and want it to be successful because of the product they make, I think it beneficial to society." Verses, "hey I really like this company and want to invest in it because I think it will make me a lot of money." Who do you advise people to invest in, companies you are wanting to be successful or ones that you think will make your clients money?

Now, can you name the problem that buying influence has caused to the average joe in America. Give an example such as, not taxing corporations nearly enough.

We rarely invest in individual stocks, but I understand your point. Yes, in a capitalistic society the goal of investing is to make a profit. There are also people in Japan, Brazil, Africa, Sweden and Germany who do the same thing, so this is not an American issue. The point of investing is to increase your asset level. The goal of investing is not to do something that is "beneficial to society", although there are many who invest in mutual funds that invest in more altruistic endeavors.

Once again, I don't understand how this matters. People invest for retirement, that's why they're investing. I'm a little lost here.

As to your question about whether buying political influence affects the average Joe, well of course it does. Politicians get into office and/or stay there with political influence. And they get into office and stay there as a result of money in their campaigns that was given to them by people and companies that want influence. As a result, their decisions affect the average Joe. This is obvious, isn't it?

I don't get your point. Are you confusing financial advisors with financiers, bankers, ratings agencies, people like that?

Help me out here.

.

 

[Bush92]

But...but...but, Democrats are the party of the poor working man? This can't be. Those people are not "victims." Waaaaaaaaaa. Lol.

 

[Freewill]

Doesn't matter to me which party is buying what.

Until we get money out of politics and slap term limits on these creeps the decay continues.

.

Financial Advisors are the problem. Profit at any cost. There is no way to get money out of politics it is the greed of the stock market that is the real problem.

Well, as a financial advisor, I'd have to disagree.

What does a financial advisor have to do with money in politics, precisely?

.

Yeah, I know you are a FA that was the point. Where do you think the money in politics come from and why? What if it were possible to remove the stock market from the economic equation. Would companies then be buying influence? How many of your clients come to you and say, "hey I really like this company and want it to be successful because of the product they make, I think it beneficial to society." Verses, "hey I really like this company and want to invest in it because I think it will make me a lot of money." Who do you advise people to invest in, companies you are wanting to be successful or ones that you think will make your clients money?

Now, can you name the problem that buying influence has caused to the average joe in America. Give an example such as, not taxing corporations nearly enough.

We rarely invest in individual stocks, but I understand your point. Yes, in a capitalistic society the goal of investing is to make a profit. There are also people in Japan, Brazil, Africa, Sweden and Germany who do the same thing, so this is not an American issue. The point of investing is to increase your asset level. The goal of investing is not to do something that is "beneficial to society", although there are many who invest in mutual funds that invest in more altruistic endeavors.

Once again, I don't understand how this matters. People invest for retirement, that's why they're investing. I'm a little lost here.


I don't get your point. Are you confusing financial advisors with financiers, bankers, ratings agencies, people like that?

Help me out here.

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PROFIT drives the economy. YOU and everyone else in the free world, myself include, invest for PROFIT, nothing else. The mutual funds that you invest in, and in reality I will bet it is "products" you sell, could be investing in supplying arms to ISIS and as long as their profit margin is paying off THAT is who they will invest in.

How can you not see that greed from the ground up is the real cause of our problems. The sad part is that there is absolutely nothing to be done so people just need to get on the train and find someone like you to facilitate their ride on the greed train.

Quote from you: As to your question about whether buying political influence affects the average Joe, well of course it does. Politicians get into office and/or stay there with political influence. And they get into office and stay there as a result of money in their campaigns that was given to them by people and companies that want influence. As a result, their decisions affect the average Joe. This is obvious, isn't it?

Quite the non-answer. How does it effect YOU directly if a politician is bought off? In other words you are implying that the same companies you, or your "products," invest in are the same evil bastard buy influence which is hurting you. WTF that seems almost bi-polar. Again I ask, give me a direct, DIRECT, answer in how buying off politicians has DIRECTLY hurt you. I contend it has helped you.

 

[Mac1958]

PROFIT drives the economy. YOU and everyone else in the free world, myself include, invest for PROFIT, nothing else. The mutual funds that you invest in, and in reality I will bet it is "products" you sell, could be investing in supplying arms to ISIS and as long as their profit margin is paying off THAT is who they will invest in.

How can you not see that greed from the ground up is the real cause of our problems. The sad part is that there is absolutely nothing to be done so people just need to get on the train and find someone like you to facilitate their ride on the greed train.

Quote from you: As to your question about whether buying political influence affects the average Joe, well of course it does. Politicians get into office and/or stay there with political influence. And they get into office and stay there as a result of money in their campaigns that was given to them by people and companies that want influence. As a result, their decisions affect the average Joe. This is obvious, isn't it?

Quite the non-answer. How does it effect YOU directly if a politician is bought off? In other words you are implying that the same companies you, or your "products," invest in are the same evil bastard buy influence which is hurting you. WTF that seems almost bi-polar. Again I ask, give me a direct, DIRECT, answer in how buying off politicians has DIRECTLY hurt you. I contend it has helped you.

So are you saying that if someone invests for retirement, they're doing something wrong?

And yes, I'm saying that if a politician gains office through influence, and if that same politician retains office through influence, that they affect me with the laws they vote on, with the political influence they wield. I don't understand why this is not obvious. The decisions politicians make affect us all, isn't that the point of having politicians?

And I think you're saying that I have a vested interest in keeping money in politics. Or are you saying I have a vested interest in getting money OUT of politics?

So I remain confused here.

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[guno]

hey, the rightwingnuts love citizens united.

or did you think it was just for the wingers?

It's the lefties that are all up in arms about rich people giving money to pols unless of course those pols are democrats

no one is going to lose elections because your guys perverted our entire political system.

you wanted it. live with it.

Isn't it funny how uneducated trailer dwelling white trash defend those who shit on them, must be the Low IQ thing

 

[Freewill]

PROFIT drives the economy. YOU and everyone else in the free world, myself include, invest for PROFIT, nothing else. The mutual funds that you invest in, and in reality I will bet it is "products" you sell, could be investing in supplying arms to ISIS and as long as their profit margin is paying off THAT is who they will invest in.

How can you not see that greed from the ground up is the real cause of our problems. The sad part is that there is absolutely nothing to be done so people just need to get on the train and find someone like you to facilitate their ride on the greed train.

Quote from you: As to your question about whether buying political influence affects the average Joe, well of course it does. Politicians get into office and/or stay there with political influence. And they get into office and stay there as a result of money in their campaigns that was given to them by people and companies that want influence. As a result, their decisions affect the average Joe. This is obvious, isn't it?

Quite the non-answer. How does it effect YOU directly if a politician is bought off? In other words you are implying that the same companies you, or your "products," invest in are the same evil bastard buy influence which is hurting you. WTF that seems almost bi-polar. Again I ask, give me a direct, DIRECT, answer in how buying off politicians has DIRECTLY hurt you. I contend it has helped you.

So are you saying that if someone invests for retirement, they're doing something wrong?

And yes, I'm saying that if a politician gains office through influence, and if that same politician retains office through influence, that they affect me with the laws they vote on, with the political influence they wield. I don't understand why this is not obvious. The decisions politicians make affect us all, isn't that the point of having politicians?

And I think you're saying that I have a vested interest in keeping money in politics. Or are you saying I have a vested interest in getting money OUT of politics?

So I remain confused here.

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Never said that investing for retirement is wrong, not sure where you might have read that. I am making the point that profit is the motivation for investing, that is all. I also contend that there really is no alternative as the system is set up today. So no, people investing for retirement is a good thing, until the rich take back their money as they did in 1926 and 2008.

What I asked is fairly straight forward you keep avoiding the question so we might as well stop discussion.

What you could have used as a discussion point is when the wealthy alledgely bought the 1926 presidential election. Thus defeating William Jennings Bryan who campaigned on the break up of monopolies. THAT is the type of example I was asking. (Morgan donated 250,000 to McKinley which would have been an enormous amount)