There is NOTHING Trump can do to stop the current economic disaster that is unfolding.

[Butch_Coolidge]

So you’re not going to vote for him again?

Dems don't get it. Trump is getting the same support he got 4 years ago. Best president ever.

Yeah, about that. Pay close attention to the middle box of numbers in swing states. Hell, even Florida is now within the margin.
RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Trump Job Approval

And RCP doesn't list Michigan within a margin of error anymore. But in case you wanted to know.
RealClearPolitics - Michigan General Election Polls

#ShowTheGOPTheDoor2020

You're paying attention to polls at this stage of the game?

Did you miss the lesson of 2016?

Second lesson coming soon.


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[eagle1462010]

As the 1st case came into the U.S. and then 10 days later..............something else was on the minds of the Dems.............Completely ignoring this until............they went gee.........we can crash the economy and do a KIA body bag count.....and gain and advantage in the next election.

Given the utter Lies here .....the media.....and anywhere moonbat libs reside....

Oh.....what were they obsessed with.

Once again, a lazy meme. Not really surprised. Standard operating procedure of Trump supporters. Deny, deflect..seriously?? Patriots??..whatever.
Here's a little more glass for you Trump lovers to chew on.
New York Times: HHS' pandemic simulation showed how US was ill prepared for coronavirus - CNNPolitics

The Meme must have hit too close to the mark............As it is TRUE......on January 21st the 1st case was reported.....on January 31st.........they implemented Travel Restrictions and HHS declared an Emerigency..........Quarantine measures were also put in place.........

During both of these Pressers..............the left was too busy in Impeachment procedings........the second one they were arguing about witnesses

Had Hillary been in office nothing would have been done differently ..........EXCEPT THE MEDIA would be swooning as Americans died for her..........just like they did for Obama.......

The Virus started in December.....possibly sooner as China being China tried to hide it.....So we are over 3 months in already...........In 6 months 1000 died due to H1N1 under Obama.....hardly a peep from the Media on how Obama did on it.............He didn't declare a Stratford Emergency for 6 months.............His HHS did one in April.......but not even close to the powers of the Presidential one.

Biggest maker of medical face masks in U.S. is warning of an outbreak ... of fraud

3 M now producing 1 Million N95 masks a day.......and because of legislation the industrial sector can't buy them.........before only 5 million a month were available to the Medial side of the equation.......That is now changed under emergency orders and legislation already signed......
Trump White House News Conference

about 6 minutes in

KEEPING THE LIBERAL BIAS AND LIES AT BAY..

 

[eagle1462010]

As the 1st case came into the U.S. and then 10 days later..............something else was on the minds of the Dems.............Completely ignoring this until............they went gee.........we can crash the economy and do a KIA body bag count.....and gain and advantage in the next election.

Given the utter Lies here .....the media.....and anywhere moonbat libs reside....

Oh.....what were they obsessed with.

Once again, a lazy meme. Not really surprised. Standard operating procedure of Trump supporters. Deny, deflect..seriously?? Patriots??..whatever.
Here's a little more glass for you Trump lovers to chew on.
New York Times: HHS' pandemic simulation showed how US was ill prepared for coronavirus - CNNPolitics

CNN IS FAKE NEWS FOR DUMBOCRATS TDS

THANK YOU for putting up that video of the briefing it was very informative.......I reposted it on my last post in this thread.

 

[Butch_Coolidge]

Dems don't get it. Trump is getting the same support he got 4 years ago. Best president ever.

Yeah, about that. Pay close attention to the middle box of numbers in swing states. Hell, even Florida is now within the margin.
RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Trump Job Approval

And RCP doesn't list Michigan within a margin of error anymore. But in case you wanted to know.
RealClearPolitics - Michigan General Election Polls

#ShowTheGOPTheDoor2020

You're paying attention to polls at this stage of the game?

Did you miss the lesson of 2016?

No lessons missed at all. As I recall the polls were largely on target. It's the media response that you remember talking up a Clinton win.
Here, I dug one up for you.
RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - General Election: Trump vs. Clinton

Trump won by less than 1% across three states. 46 swing electoral votes. But looking at the actual numbers, appears pretty accurate.

Hilarious.

What did the polls in March 2016 look like, not the polls in November 2016?

Glad you find it amusing. Expand the table out in the link provided and you can see for yourself. However, in March, 2016, Clinton was still locked in a primary fight with Bernie Sanders. But you can see as the spring wore on, Trump started making some positive appearances on polls. Clinton's numbers went down as election time approached. And things ended up lining right up with the numbers on the polls that were taken in the days before the election.

So when you say, "you want to believe polls at this stage of the game?", I say, yes. Truth is, I don't expect Trump's numbers to change one direction or the other between now and November. He'll be defeated in the same kind of narrow margin he won in 2016.

He kicked ass last time, and has no competition now.



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[Butch_Coolidge]

So you’re not going to vote for him again?

Dems don't get it. Trump is getting the same support he got 4 years ago. Best president ever.

Yeah, about that. Pay close attention to the middle box of numbers in swing states. Hell, even Florida is now within the margin.
RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Trump Job Approval

And RCP doesn't list Michigan within a margin of error anymore. But in case you wanted to know.
RealClearPolitics - Michigan General Election Polls

#ShowTheGOPTheDoor2020

This ******* country is fighting for its life and you are worried about swing states, even though your party offers nothing. Too crazy.

Response to a statement made. I understand your outrage. I thought it might have just been Trump's arrogance and incompetence in denying and brushing aside the seriousness of the virus. But it looks like not only did his administration cut necessary programs and funding that would have helped our preparedness to fight this virus, they also ran simulations and mock exercises showing exactly what may happen in a pandemic like this....and then ignored any and all lessons.

Despite the fascist wishes of some on the right wing, there will be an election held this November. If we don't want to see this type of incompetence and flat out negligence from our government again, it's imperative we not only show Trump the door, but also as many Republicans as possible.

Where the hell did you get this from? And who do you think is going to be your hero, Nancy, Chuckle? Good luck.


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[whutTHEYsay]

He sure can stop it by ending this hysteria and announcing very soon that this virtue signaling sequestration of America is ending

He will never do that for his idiots because he can’t. Even if TrumpO wanted to let the virus kill 2.2 mostly poor and elderly Americans to please his base and people like you .....

MITIGATION, the new coronavirus pandemic could kill as many as 2.2 million people in the U.S., according to a report from the Imperial College of London Covid-19 Response Team. Even taking critical steps such as social distancing of the entire population, isolation of the sick in their homes, and quarantining family members of the sick, the epidemic will likely soon overwhelm the critical care capacity of American hospitals, according to the report. The British researchers told the New York Times that they shared their findings with the White House task force on the virus “about a week ago.” 2.2 Million People in the U.S. Could Die If Coronavirus Goes Unchecked
​

........ he can’t because the Governors and the investment community did not let him. It was not fake News Media hysteria that turned TrumpO into a virtue signaler. He could not BS the investor class because they listen to scientists and could see the future for the US in Italy. He could not keep up the rosy scenario happy talk when Democrat and some GOP governors started leading as leaders in a crisis are expected to do. TrumpO was being smashed into oblivion as a leader.

So now TrumpO is saying he always took the killer “Chinese” virus seriously,

lying dipshit con man that he is.

 

[S.J.]

I didn’t say he did declare a National Emergency in APRIL 2009, and neither did you. So quit lying, Obama declared a national health emergency when there were 20 cases and no deaths.

Oh, really? Here's your post:

That’s another hater lie going around. Obama declared a national health emergency in April 2009 when the U.S. had 20 cases and before anybody died.

And here's the link I posted (from October 24, 2009) proving you're a damn liar:
Obama declares swine flu a national emergency

 

[whutTHEYsay]

As the 1st case came into the U.S. and then 10 days later..............something else was on the minds of the Dems.............Completely ignoring this until............they went gee.........we can crash the economy and do a KIA body bag count.....and gain and advantage in the next election.

Given the utter Lies here .....the media.....and anywhere moonbat libs reside....

Oh.....what were they obsessed with.

being an idiot comes natural to you.

You think the Wall Street TrumpO loving investor class are part of the Dem and Deep State conspiracy to dump Trump with seven months left in his Administration?

How stupid can you be? It makes no sense whatsoever, but it’s all you can grab onto now as your Cult Leader is crashing down.

 

[S.J.]

Obama did not declare a national emergency in April, he declared it in October, after 1,000 Americans had died.

I didn’t say he did declare a National Emergency in APRIL 2009, and neither did you. So quit lying, Obama declared a national health emergency when there were 20 cases and no deaths. H1N1 was 35 times less deadly than TrumpO’s Pandemic. TrumpO wasted his first sixty days when he said the US had 15 cases but it would soon be zero because of how great he was. He said that when other parts of the world was piling up infections and deaths. He should have listened to the experts instead of his bullshit happy talk.

Rump has always fueled himself on self-delusion, a sicko psycho game he learnt at the feet of Norman Vincent Peale. That's how he pulls those boners of claiming he never said "Tim Apple", wasn't mocking a reporter's disability, and even transports his own father's birthplace five thousand miles to a whole different continent. Colloquialy put, he buys his own bullshit.

The pity of it is that there exist poor schlubs like SJ who can't see right through that bullshit for what it is.

Hey pogo, tell us again how H1N1 started in the U.S. lol

H1N1 came from here.

You know that, right?

 

[Pogo]

Obama did not declare a national emergency in April, he declared it in October, after 1,000 Americans had died.

I didn’t say he did declare a National Emergency in APRIL 2009, and neither did you. So quit lying, Obama declared a national health emergency when there were 20 cases and no deaths. H1N1 was 35 times less deadly than TrumpO’s Pandemic. TrumpO wasted his first sixty days when he said the US had 15 cases but it would soon be zero because of how great he was. He said that when other parts of the world was piling up infections and deaths. He should have listened to the experts instead of his bullshit happy talk.

Rump has always fueled himself on self-delusion, a sicko psycho game he learnt at the feet of Norman Vincent Peale. That's how he pulls those boners of claiming he never said "Tim Apple", wasn't mocking a reporter's disability, and even transports his own father's birthplace five thousand miles to a whole different continent. Colloquialy put, he buys his own bullshit.

The pity of it is that there exist poor schlubs like SJ who can't see right through that bullshit for what it is.

Hey pogo, tell us again how H1N1 started in the U.S. lol

H1N1 came from here.

You know that, right?

Sure.

>> In the spring of 2009, a novel influenza A (H1N1) virus emerged. It was detected first in the United States and spread quickly across the United States and the world. This new H1N1 virus contained a unique combination of influenza genes not previously identified in animals or people. This virus was designated as influenza A (H1N1)pdm09 virus. Ten years later work continues to better understand influenza, prevent disease, and prepare for the next pandemic. << --- CDC​

You do realize this has zero to do with the post quoted. You know that, right? Are you confuserated as to which poster was talking about what?

 

[Canon Shooter]

You want to blame Trump? Fine, do it. But you're gonna' look pretty stupid if you don't have, at the very least, some line on a possible solution to offer.

TrumpO blew the much needed immediate solution when he YOU'RE FIRED the White House Pandemic Office that Obama Left

FORMER DIRECTOR OF WHITE HOUSE PANDEMIC OFFICE SAYS DISBANDING UNIT LEFT U.S. 'LESS PREPARED' FOR COVID-19 IN OP-ED
By James Walker On 3/14/20 at 12:30 PM EDT

A former senior director of the National Security Council's dissolved pandemic unit said its closure left the United States "less prepared" for the COVID-19 outbreak.​

Beth Cameron wrote in an op-ed for The Washington Post that the Trump administration's response to the novel coronavirus had been "slow and inadequate," and suggested that the closure of the Directorate for Global Health Security and Biodefense had contributed to its "sluggish" response.
​

TrumpO spent January and February getting advice from Kushner on the epidemic PR problem mostly on how to keep the stock market up. He did nothing to instill confidence in investors that he was in command of the epidemic.

Tonight the DJIA is lower than it was when Obama was President.

Of course TRUMPO is not to blame for a global pandemic, but he is absolutely responsible for the Nations’ response.

TrumpO’s Response sucked - until a few days ago when he assigned hisself the greatest Pandemic responder ever. When he does that he still sucks.

I don't see anything there which suggests a potential solution.

As I suspected, you've proven to be nothing but a failure in offering anything worthwhile and, instead, prefer just to whine...

 

[Mike473]

Think about it. If Clinton were President, the travel bans would have been impossible to put in place. The hard left wouldn't have allowed her to do it.

 

[it_is_the_light]

He sure can stop it by ending this hysteria and announcing very soon that this virtue signaling sequestration of America is ending

He will never do that for his idiots because he can’t. Even if TrumpO wanted to let the virus kill 2.2 mostly poor and elderly Americans to please his base and people like you .....

MITIGATION, the new coronavirus pandemic could kill as many as 2.2 million people in the U.S., according to a report from the Imperial College of London Covid-19 Response Team. Even taking critical steps such as social distancing of the entire population, isolation of the sick in their homes, and quarantining family members of the sick, the epidemic will likely soon overwhelm the critical care capacity of American hospitals, according to the report. The British researchers told the New York Times that they shared their findings with the White House task force on the virus “about a week ago.” 2.2 Million People in the U.S. Could Die If Coronavirus Goes Unchecked
​

........ he can’t because the Governors and the investment community did not let him. It was not fake News Media hysteria that turned TrumpO into a virtue signaler. He could not BS the investor class because they listen to scientists and could see the future for the US in Italy. He could not keep up the rosy scenario happy talk when Democrat and some GOP governors started leading as leaders in a crisis are expected to do. TrumpO was being smashed into oblivion as a leader.

So now TrumpO is saying he always took the killer “Chinese” virus seriously,

lying dipshit con man that he is.

 

[Dragonlady]

No amount of policies or executive orders can or will make the industries that drive our economic engine recover.
From airlines to manufacturing. It is all taking a hard hit because of THE VIRUS. Until it runs its course all we can do is try to ride the wave.

It is nice to see politicians focusing on the average Joe for once. Bailing out the little man so to speak rather than simply flooding big business with endless cash (Solyndra, banks & Chevy for example)

Blaming ANY OF THIS on ANY POLITICIAN just shows a severe lack of critical thinking on your part.

There is a set of Politicians I wi blame and it is China own Communist Party!

You can argue until you are blue in the face with me but China Government caused this with their lies and deceit!

Had they been honest in the first moments of the Pandemic with the WHO then maybe we would not have seen the massive melt of the Markets around the World but they were not.

So again I am pointing my crooked little finger at China Government and blaming them and no one else!

Gotta blame someone and Lord knows Trump won't accept any responsibility for anything.

If TRUMP had been honest with the American people about the dangers from the beginning, and used the time the Chinese gave the world to prepare, you wouldn't be in the mess you're in now. Trump's refusal of the WHO tests was gross incompetence.

Canadian workers are being advised how to access government funds through the Employment Insurance program, and getting money to low income families through the child benefit, and quarterly GST refund chequest going out on April 4th. Our schools are closed for three weeks, and everyone who can work from home is being asked to do so. Bars and restaurants are closed except for take-out.

Every day our cases are updated. We have tests for those who need them. Elective surgeries are being cancellled to free up beds for the victims when the wave hits.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

He sure can stop it by ending this hysteria and announcing very soon that this virtue signaling sequestration of America is ending

He will never do that for his idiots because he can’t. Even if TrumpO wanted to let the virus kill 2.2 mostly poor and elderly Americans to please his base and people like you .....

MITIGATION, the new coronavirus pandemic could kill as many as 2.2 million people in the U.S., according to a report from the Imperial College of London Covid-19 Response Team. Even taking critical steps such as social distancing of the entire population, isolation of the sick in their homes, and quarantining family members of the sick, the epidemic will likely soon overwhelm the critical care capacity of American hospitals, according to the report. The British researchers told the New York Times that they shared their findings with the White House task force on the virus “about a week ago.” 2.2 Million People in the U.S. Could Die If Coronavirus Goes Unchecked
​

........ he can’t because the Governors and the investment community did not let him. It was not fake News Media hysteria that turned TrumpO into a virtue signaler. He could not BS the investor class because they listen to scientists and could see the future for the US in Italy. He could not keep up the rosy scenario happy talk when Democrat and some GOP governors started leading as leaders in a crisis are expected to do. TrumpO was being smashed into oblivion as a leader.

So now TrumpO is saying he always took the killer “Chinese” virus seriously,

lying dipshit con man that he is.

So four GOP US Senators got briefed in February by the Intelligence community just how bad this epidemic was going to be. It was not false fear you flaming idiot because all four Republicans with insider information dumped millions of dollars of stocks right before the virus shit hit the fan and the stock market lost 30 percent and lost the entire TrumpO surge since he took office.

Don’t believe me? Check with Tucker:

On Fox News Thursday, right-wing commentator Tucker Carlson laid into Sen. Richard Burr (R-NC) following reports that he offloaded $1.6 dollars in stock after private briefings on coronavirus, even as he publicly downplayed its threat to the economy.​

“You may have seen the news reports this afternoon that the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee sold more than a million dollars in stock in February, after learning how devastating the Chinese coronavirus could be,” said Carlson. “He had inside information about what could happen to our country, which is now happening. But he didn’t warn the public. He didn’t give a primetime address. Didn’t go on television to sound the alarm. He didn’t even disavow an op-ed he had written just ten days before claiming that America was, quote, ‘better prepared than ever for coronavirus.'”​

There’s three more GOP Senators who used insider information to Dump Stock before the Great TrumpO Stock Market Crash.

If four GOP Senators knee how dire the forthcoming epidemic would be / TrumpO knew to.

Would you dump TrumpO if you found out he dumped some stocks out told somebody else he knew to dump some?

 

[S.J.]

Obama did not declare a national emergency in April, he declared it in October, after 1,000 Americans had died.

I didn’t say he did declare a National Emergency in APRIL 2009, and neither did you. So quit lying, Obama declared a national health emergency when there were 20 cases and no deaths. H1N1 was 35 times less deadly than TrumpO’s Pandemic. TrumpO wasted his first sixty days when he said the US had 15 cases but it would soon be zero because of how great he was. He said that when other parts of the world was piling up infections and deaths. He should have listened to the experts instead of his bullshit happy talk.

Rump has always fueled himself on self-delusion, a sicko psycho game he learnt at the feet of Norman Vincent Peale. That's how he pulls those boners of claiming he never said "Tim Apple", wasn't mocking a reporter's disability, and even transports his own father's birthplace five thousand miles to a whole different continent. Colloquialy put, he buys his own bullshit.

The pity of it is that there exist poor schlubs like SJ who can't see right through that bullshit for what it is.

Hey pogo, tell us again how H1N1 started in the U.S. lol

H1N1 came from here.

You know that, right?

Sure.

>> In the spring of 2009, a novel influenza A (H1N1) virus emerged. It was detected first in the United States and spread quickly across the United States and the world. This new H1N1 virus contained a unique combination of influenza genes not previously identified in animals or people. This virus was designated as influenza A (H1N1)pdm09 virus. Ten years later work continues to better understand influenza, prevent disease, and prepare for the next pandemic. << --- CDC​

You do realize this has zero to do with the post quoted. You know that, right? Are you confuserated as to which poster was talking about what?

Not at all. YOU claimed it started here. It didn't. It was first "discovered" here but it did not "originate" here. You know what "originate" means, right? And you also know that your comment that I quoted had nothing to do with the post to which you were responding (trolling).
2009 swine flu pandemic originated in Mexico, researchers discover

 

[whutTHEYsay]

I don't see anything there which suggests a potential solution.

As I suspected, you've proven to be nothing but a failure in offering anything worthwhile and, instead, prefer just to whine...

My solution is simple. I’m lucky. My wife and I can telework. We have not been in close contact wIth other people for six weeks. Only grocery shop when stores are not crowded for fresh vegetables milk and bread etc. Buy everything else online.

We get outdoors, ride on our great bike paths around DC, walk the dog in the neighborhood. Hike in the Shenandoah mountains. We are not on the Titanic. unfortunately too many Americans are. TrumpO is the Captain. He says he had no idea the icebergs were out there. We know how that story ends.

Captain Edward J. Smith and the officers on the Titanic were well aware that they might encounter icebergs in the North Atlantic. Knowing about icebergs was part of theirtraining. On April 14 alone, six wireless messages were sent to the Titanic about icebergs in her oath
The History of the Titanic's Wreck on the Iceberg - dummies​

My wife is an epidemiologist/researcher working for the Defense Department.

She knew instantly today when TrumpO lied in his Presser today when he wrongly claimed the FDA approved a drug called chloroquine to treat the COVID19. That drug is not approved and it has been tested in China and it has little effect.

We are very lucky. Our kids are grown. We are not going to be infected in this Pandemic unless we screw up months from now in a second or third wave.

So that is not my solution that is the only solution Americans can personally do right now.

My wife saw something bad coming since December when the outbreak in a China became known but she did not expect the failures we are seeing. There is no excuse for the TrumpO Administration failures on tests.

You want a SOLUTION from me. The SOLUTION is testing. It’s like fighting a war without rifles. The other solution is personal protection items for our first responders and hospital staff.

Due to TrumpO’s failures on the SOLUTION the only SOLUTION is to follow the recommendations from experts on the news and stay away from each other at least six feet if you have to be out in public. Wipe packages with disinfectant when delivered to your door.

since there are not enough test kits / act as if you are infected and don’t want to give it to others

And Don’t Believe one goddamned word TrumpO says unless backed up by an unbiased non partisan expert.

Get off the Titanic / TrumpO was warned about the Iceberg but he knew better and did not give a damn about advice he did not want to hear.

 

[satrebil]

Think about it. If Clinton were President, the travel bans would have been impossible to put in place. The hard left wouldn't have allowed her to do it.

Disagree. You know as well as I do the left speaks out of both sides of their mouths. If it were Clinton they'd be singing her praises until the end of the decade.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

.In 6 months 1000 died due to H1N1 under Obama.....hardly a peep from the Media on how Obama did on it.............He didn't declare a Stratford Emergency for 6 months.............His HHS did one in April.......but not even close to the powers o

That’s because H1N1 was not a potential national disaster or potential hospital bed crisis and need for ventilators to save the elderly from dying from pneumonia.

facts are H1N1 had little harmful effect on the elderly and was more mild than seasonal flu. 2008 through 2010’ both years were below average years for deaths from seasonal flu.

H1N1 couldn’t be controlled in 2009, but was mild enough that this did not lead to disaster. Covid-19 is a much more dangerous disease that maybe, just maybe, can be stopped. Remember the Last Global Pandemic? Probably Not
​

So why not mention the Truth that Obama’s first year in office recorded fewer deaths from flu than most years before and after.

it’s so important to spread lies about Obama to detract from the corruption and failures of your beloved Trump.

 

[Jackson]

No amount of policies or executive orders can or will make the industries that drive our economic engine recover.
From airlines to manufacturing. It is all taking a hard hit because of THE VIRUS. Until it runs its course all we can do is try to ride the wave.

It is nice to see politicians focusing on the average Joe for once. Bailing out the little man so to speak rather than simply flooding big business with endless cash (Solyndra, banks & Chevy for example)

Blaming ANY OF THIS on ANY POLITICIAN just shows a severe lack of critical thinking on your part.

Next time you vote, just remember that the U.S. may need a leader that can lead through the worst of times. Instead of just twitter trolling through good times.

It appears he right up there everyday telling people what is going on how they are handling it. I appreciate his work. We should all pray he turns this around. No more politics.