There Is No Science Any Longer

[22lcidw]

Then quit making shit up.

For you it is pinpoint for your views. For me it is direction after the views have been established and legalized.

 

[Muhammed]

Perhaps you have observed that anything that the Left touches turns to ….manure. You name it, they destroy it. And that includes the vehicle that moved Western Civilization to its current state…..science.



1.Earlier it was the psychologists that gave in and proclaimed homosexuality ‘normal.’ Pretty soon they were signing on to all sorts of deviancy. We’ve lately seen suggestions about pedophilia.



2. How about the sort of scientists who treat illness and disease? Have you seen the movement by actual doctors to say obesity is just fine in you’re black?

In the face of the facts about how deadly the covid virus is to overweight, obese, individuals, these racists, Democrats in doctors garb, must believe that blacks are largely overweight (no pun intended) and therefore, as a "medical fact"....

"Obesity affects some groups more than others
[Read CDC National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) data brief]
Non-Hispanic Black adults (49.6%) had the highest age-adjusted prevalence of obesity,


Obesity is a Common, Serious, and Costly Disease
Get the latest data and facts about adult obesity in the US.
www.cdc.gov
Rather than offer plans to mitigate obesity......these racists....er, good Liberals encourage it:

"WC4BL also promotes what appear to be significant medical falsehoods. For example, they seek to “deconstruct the falsehood that weight equates to health, including ending the use of BMI.”

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'White Coats for Black Lives' Calling Shots at America's Medical Schools
White Coats for Black Lives, a radical socialist organization of doctors and medical students, is set to racialize the practice of medicine.
www.breitbart.com

"Medical providers must unlearn the false equivalency between weight and health, and fat people must have access to affirming healthcare free of stigma and guilt."
https://whitecoats4blacklives.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/WC4BL_Vision_Document_1_.pdf





Science has fallen prey to a political narrative.

Just like any other profession, the medical profession will have it's share of total moonbats.

However, it is true that BMI doesn't mean jack shit from the standpoint of sound medical science. They are correct when they say that weight equating to health is a falsehood.

WC4BL also promotes what appear to be significant medical falsehoods. For example, they seek to “deconstruct the falsehood that weight equates to health, including ending the use of BMI.” [Emphasis added].

Obesity is a medical condition where your body has an unhealthy amount of adipose tissue (fat).

BMI does not in any way measure your lean tissue to fat tissue ratio. BMI It's simply based on a 19th century height to weight ratio. It was debunked over a century ago.

Then health insurance companies brought it back in the 20th century. BMI is based on corporate greed and crooked politicians. Overnight, during the crooked Clinton administration, millions of Americans suddenly became "overweight" according to the corrupt bureaucrats because that's what the insurance companies lobbied for to fatten their wallets and fatten the wallets of their crooked deep state lackeys.

As professional personal trainer/nutritionist, I've had clients with a very low BMI who were obese. Medical texbooks call it "normal weight obesity". Many trainers simply call the condition "fat-skinny". That's when someone has poor muscle tone and looks thin as a rail, but still has an unhealthy amount of body fat.

Then when you use your skinfold calipers to take measurements and do the calculations to estimate their muscle to body fat ratio, they are clearly obese even though their BMI is in the normal range. They have a normal height to weight ratio but a large unhealthy percentage of body fat. This condition is very common among people suffering from eating disorders such as bulimia and anorexia and also among people who are on restrictive fad diets. It's particularly common with strict vegetarians and vegans.

If you see a guy with a pencil neck, droopy shoulders, skinny twigs where their arms and legs are supposed to be, and a gut that sticks out further than their chest, it's very likely that they are obese, and face the same health issues as any other obese person, regardless of their BMI.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I'm sure somebody somewhere cares what you might think.

You do.....or you wouldn't have replied.

But I've had enough of you......beat it, Elmer.

 

[konradv]

Schools were closed. Children not being educated.

Thought home schooling was the ticket anyway.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Just like any other profession, the medical profession will have it's share of total moonbats.

However, it is true that BMI doesn't mean jack shit from the standpoint of sound medical science. They are correct when they say that weight equating to health is a falsehood.

WC4BL also promotes what appear to be significant medical falsehoods. For example, they seek to “deconstruct the falsehood that weight equates to health, including ending the use of BMI.” [Emphasis added].

Obesity is a medical condition where your body has an unhealthy amount of adipose tissue (fat).

BMI does not in any way measure your lean tissue to fat tissue ratio. BMI It's simply based on a 19th century height to weight ratio. It was debunked over a century ago.

Then health insurance companies brought it back in the 20th century. BMI is based on corporate greed and crooked politicians. Overnight, during the crooked Clinton administration, millions of Americans suddenly became "overweight" according to the corrupt bureaucrats because that's what the insurance companies lobbied for to fatten their wallets and fatten the wallets of their crooked deep state lackeys.

As professional personal trainer/nutritionist, I've had clients with a very low BMI who were obese. Medical texbooks call it "normal weight obesity". Many trainers simply call the condition "fat-skinny". That's when someone's has no muscle tone and looks thin as a rail, but still have an unhealthy amount of body fat.

Then when you use your skinfold calipers to take measurements and do the calculations to estimate their muscle to body fat ratio, they are clearly obese even though their BMI is in the normal range. They have a normal height to weight ratio but a large unhealthy percentage of body fat. This condition is very common among people suffering from eating disorders such as bulimia and anorexia and also among people who are on restrictive fad diets. It's particularly common with strict vegetarians and vegans.

If you see a guy with a pencil neck, droopy shoulders, skinny twigs where their arms and legs are supposed to be, and a gut that sticks out further than their chest, it's very likely that they are obese, and face the same health issues as any other obese person, regardless of their BMI.

Really???


Do a bit more reading before you post.


"Nearly 80% hospitalized for COVID-19 were overweight or obese"

Nearly 80% hospitalized for COVID-19 were overweight or obese

About 78% of people who were hospitalized, placed on a ventilator or died from COVID-19 were overweight or obese, a new report from the CDC shows.Why it matters: The findings show risk of severe COVID-19 illness rises sharply with elevated body mass index, especially for people younger than...

news.yahoo.com

“Obesity a driving factor in COVID-19 deaths, global report finds”
Obesity a driving factor in COVID-19 deaths, global report finds




"The introduction to this table essentially summarizes the findings that 94% of the deaths by COVID-19 were also associated a potential fatal health condition (heart failure) or other significant co-morbidity factor (e.g., obesity). Therefore only 6% of the deaths reported for the virus are not connected with any other underling illness.
A look at the weekly CDC report on “COVID-19” deaths and what it really means

The real meaning of table 3 is that there is a very low chance of dying of COVID-19 without a co-morbidity, especially among young people.

legalinsurrection.com

 

[itfitzme]

This stuff is absolutely fascinating. Is it a religion thing? Is that what makes them like this?

I saw where a guy running for local office wants to remove science from school curriculum.

How far behind the rest of the world do we want to get? Are these people trying to imitate the religion-soaked Middle East, still stuck in the 19th century?

I think it is more fundamental.

The difference is;

1) Using one's cerebral cortex to modify how one feels and acts in the face of reality.

and

2) Using the cerebral cortex to make up BS to make oneself feel right.

We can't go and be educated, after all, why would you go and learn things when the inevitable conclusion is that you are wrong and need to change. Who want's to do that?

It is arrested cognitive development and mental masturbation.

 

[Moonglow]

3. Medicine used to be science….the Wuhan Hoax destroyed reputations in that realm as well: the went with the Democrat narrative, the ploy to get rid of Trump.


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I enjoyed every minute of it.

 

[Muhammed]

Really???

Yes, really.

 

[itfitzme]

3. Medicine used to be science….the Wuhan Hoax destroyed reputations in that realm as well: the went with the Democrat narrative, the ploy to get rid of Trump.


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I see the concept of causality is still difficult for you
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[PoliticalChic]

Yes, really.

Education appears not to increase your store of knowledge.

Must take a great deal of effort to resist it.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I see the concept of causality is still difficult for you
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The actual death rate from Covid was zero.


ZERO......or close to it: a rounding error, and nothing more.



Watch me prove it and ram the truth down your throat:


1. And as far as how disastrous the Wuhan is to folks without those underlying co-morbidities, quick review of the facts: If one gets the Wuhan, the chances of dying from it approach zero….no more than a rounding error in the data.
An elderly, overweight President had it, and ten days later is doing two hours-long rallies a day.







2. Here, from WebMD:

Coronavirus Recovery Rates



Scientists and researchers are constantly tracking infections and recoveries. But they have data only on confirmed cases, so they can’t count people who don’t get COVID-19 tests. Experts also don’t have information about the outcome of every infection. However, early estimates predict that the overall COVID-19 recovery rate is between 97% and 99.75%.

Coronavirus Recovery







3. Hill reporter Joe Consha said the following on Fox.

"The CDC said that between the ages of zero and 19, 99.97% of people survive the Wuhan.
....between 20 and 45, 99.98%
....between 50 and 65, 99.5%
....and over 70, about 95%.







4. “Study Shows Children have a 99.995% Covid Recovery Rate with TWO Deaths Per Million Kids

This was never about healthcare. It was, is, and always will be about control.”

Study Shows Children have a 99.995% Covid Recovery Rate with TWO Deaths Per Million Kids​

Let's put the conclusions up front. There is no reason for kids to wear masks. There's no reason to keep

truthbasedmedia.com









5. If you had no co-morbidities to begin with.....

Mortality Risk of COVID-19 - Statistics and Research​

Our interactive data visualizations which show the case fatality rate in each country, is updated daily.

ourworldindata.org



That’s worldwide….includes nations with third world healthcare: under 1%







6. “Most people recover from Covid-19.




Most people with Covid-19 have mild illness and are able to recover at home without medical care,… Most people recover from Covid-19. Here's why it's hard to pinpoint exactly how many











7. The mechanism of the hoax was simply to claim that deaths that would have occurred (most who died already had DNRs), and to substitute the real cause of death (the usual causes… heart disease, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia) and pretend that the Wuhan was responsible.



It was designed to dissipate the value of Trump’s miraculous economy….and it worked.





You won, you hurt America badly, but you got rid of your bête noire.



Give it up already: no, 600,000 Americans did not die of the Wuhan Red Death.



It's just one more of the myriad lies Democrats tell.


8. “Does COVID-19 have a 98 percent survival rate?

Health officials estimate more 99% of infected patients survive

DETROIT – Health officials have confirmed the survival rate for people with the coronavirus (COVID-19) is high, but that’s no reason to relax safety measures that have been put in place.

One of the numbers that has been circulating on social media is that COVID-19 has a 98% or higher survival rate.

As of Wednesday, the number of cases in the United States was around 3,512,000 and the number of deaths was around 137,000. That would make the case fatality rate 3.9%, so based on confirmed cases, about 96% of people survive.” Does COVID-19 have a 98 percent survival rate?u



Doesn’t look like a great reason to ruin the economy and the lives of millions of unaffected individuals…..

…..unless you have an ulterior purpose.

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9. “Infection Fatality Rate (23k / 1.7M = 1.4% IFR)​

Actual Cases with an outcome as of May 1 = estimated actual recovered (1,671,351) + estimated actual deaths (23,430) = 1,694,781.

Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) = Deaths / Cases = 23,430 / 1,694,781 = 1.4% (1.4% of people infected with SARS-CoV-2 have a fatal outcome, while 98.6% recover).” Coronavirus Death Rate (COVID-19) - Worldometer

10. “VERIFY: Yes, COVID-19 has a 99% survival rate but numbers don't tell the whole story​

The Question

Is the survivability rate of COVID-19 close to 100%?

The Answer

According to coronavirus data from the North Carolina Department of Health and Human Services, there have been more than 992,000 COVID-19 cases statewide since the pandemic's start. To date, there have been close to 13,000 coronavirus-related deaths.

That would make the percentage of infections resulting in survival close to 99%” VERIFY: Yes, COVID-19 has a 99% survival rate but numbers don't tell the whole story




And this:


Professor: COVID Survival Rate For Under 20s is 99.9987%

97.1% of over 70s not in care homes survive.

Professor: COVID Survival Rate For Under 20s is 99.9987%​

97.1% of over 70s not in care homes survive.
summit.news




You're a sucker, and will never be anything but a sucker.



Who'd you vote for????????????

 

[PoliticalChic]

4. American Psychological Association Politicizes Itself
https://www.city-journal.org › american-psychological-...
— The association seeks to “improve psychology graduate education and training [by including] diverse, non-Western cultural perspectives” and ...

Consider the transformation of the American Psychological Association, which, over the past two years, has committed itself—and the field of psychology along with it—to identity politics.



The association’s recently released Racial Equity Action Plan is just the latest installment. The APA’s makeover appears to have accelerated during the riots in the summer of 2020. That June, the APA asked for feedback from its members as to how it might use “the power of psychology” to address the “pandemic of racism.” In April 2021, the APA released its Equity, Diversity, and Inclusion Framework, a document laden with concepts from critical race theory and enjoining members to “embed [equity, diversity, and inclusion] throughout all aspects of our work.”


An attack on imaginary anti-black racism??????????

The only racism today is the anti-white racism of the Democrat Party.





Psychology, and medicine, have now fallen into the same disrepute as journalism.



The damage caused by the Democrats, the Left, the Progressives….never ceases.

 

[Woodznutz]

There's little profit for the medical industry in human health. Sickness is where the money is. Once cured of a major disease one often faces a lifetime of maintenance medications whose side effects also yield rich rewards for the doctors.

 

[Muhammed]

Education appears not to increase your store of knowledge.

Must take a great deal of effort to resist it.

And of course you cannot present any logical rational reasoned argument to challenge anything I posted.

This is because I am the expert regarding the subject here, and you are not.

 

[PoliticalChic]

There's little profit for the medical industry in human health. Sickness is where the money is. Once cured of a major disease one often faces a lifetime of maintenance medications whose side effects also yield rich rewards for the doctors.

I don't care about the money.

I care about the truth, and in my posts in the thread, you will see that it no longer exists.

 

[PoliticalChic]

And of course you cannot present any logical rational reasoned argument to challenge anything I posted.

This is because I am the expert regarding the subject here, and you are not.

And no, I do not give any creedence whatsoever to well known fake news outlets such as anonymous reporters from Reuters or Yahoo.

Earlier, I explained what an Elmer is....

....one poster, Elmer, came up with this knee-jerk post from one of the indoctrinated:

“ There were hundreds if not thousands of people who lost jobs, careers, even families based on McCarty's (sic) over reach and list he compiled and interrogated. Innocent people.”
Yea Or Nay?
One hears this time and again from the indoctrinated....


If this is true…..it should be eminently simple to prove.


When challenged, he could not name a single such innocent ruined by McCarthy......yet he doubled down with his lies, continuing to blame McCarthy.

And now you....when given documentation that refutes your post, the same.


Another Elmer.

 

[Woodznutz]

I don't care about the money.

I care about the truth, and in my posts in the thread, you will see that it no longer exists.

Your posts are greatly appreciated.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"California on Cusp of Censoring Doctors on COVID-19​

The legislation would require the state’s Osteopathic Medical Board to “take action” against doctors deemed to have “disseminate[d] misinformation or disinformation related to COVID-19, including false or misleading information regarding the nature and risks of the virus, its prevention and treatment; and the development, safety, and effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines.”

The bill defines “misinformation” as that which is “contradicted by contemporary scientific consensus contrary to the standard of care.”

First, “scientific consensus” in this context is a misnomer. Politicians—not to mention doctors and scientists—ought to have learned over the past two and a half years that consensus within the scientific community does not translate into truth about the world. Indeed, a man named Galileo, whom proponents of this bill should look into, taught us as much centuries ago. Besides which, stifling scientific debate means that any purported consensus is untested and artificial. "

California on Cusp of Censoring Doctors on COVID-19

If a California bill becomes law, doctors would be banned from spreading "misinformation" about COVID-19.

www.dailysignal.com

There is not 1° of difference between Democrats and totalitarians.

 

[PoliticalChic]

We were right.

We were right about masks, we were right about lockdown.

We were right about all of it.

We were on the right side of history.

The people who advocated for lockdown are going to be historically comparable with those who said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.

We Were Right​

About all of it.
summit.news

 

[Muhammed]

And now you....when given documentation that refutes your post, the same.

And of course you're simply full of shit. You have given no documentation that refuted anything I posted, liar.

Nor can you refute anything that I posted with any logical argument, you fucking moronic lying kunt.

You're a low IQ clueless dumbass airhead.