There is No Democratic Plantation

[Redcurtain]

Modern Republicans in a dishonest revision of history, have tried using the liberal beliefs of the original republican party to make claims to black people. For example they will use black republicans from the past to gaslight blacks to claim that the current republican party is the right choice for blacks. Meanwhile they use the past conservatism of the democratic party to claim that blacks today are being fooled by the democrats. That we are being tricked or given free stuff which creates a dependency that keeps blacks voting democrat against their best interest and that our interest would be better served if we joined the republican party. They use black historical figures as props.

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But there is one problem with this. Here are some words from Frederick Douglass:

“What to the American slave is your Fourth of July? I answer, a day that reveals to him more than all other days of the year, the gross injustice and cruelty to which he is the constant victim. To him your celebration is a sham; your boasted liberty an unholy license; your national greatness, swelling vanity; your sounds of rejoicing are empty and heartless; your shouts of liberty and equality, hollow mock; your prayers and hymns, your sermons and thanksgivings, with all your religious parade and solemnity, are to him mere bombast, fraud, deception, impiety, and hypocrisy - a thin veil to cover up crimes which would disgrace a nation of savages. There is not a nation of the earth guilty of practices more shocking and bloody than are the people of these United States at this very hour.”

You can't name one black republican today who would stand before the nation on the Fourth of July questioning and denouncing Americas continuing problem with race. Why? Because opposition to racism has always been a liberal ideal. Frederick Douglass was a progressive and not a conservative.

White conservatives have always opposed racial equality and have always advanced blacks who did not challenge white supremacy. Still today white conservatives love B.T. Washington. Why?

“There is another class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. ... Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs ... There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient to get well.”

This is the dumbest opinion of all time. Washington made this comment in 1911, now let's think about what was going on in those times to understand the stupidity of this statement. But whites loved it because Washington was blaming blacks for the problems created by a legalized system of racial oppression. Today this stupidity manifests itself in Larry Elders, Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Jessie Peterson, Ben Carson, Nora Wheatley, Starr Parker or Candice Owens.

This is not about opposition to sucessful blacks, because Oprah Winfrey is more successful than all the people in the prior paragraph combined and she is loved and admired. Barack Obama accomplished what no other black in the history of western civilization has and he is loved and admired. So it is apparent why right wing, anti black, white racism validating blacks are despised and it has nothing to do with success or free shit from democrats.

" The plantation metaphor relies on the misperception that most black Americans are living in poverty. This assumption is demonstrably false; the majority of black Americans are not living in crime-ridden communities or suffering from poverty. But there is a reason why this belief exists. Many Americans might know that the majority of blacks are not poor, but the media constantly bombards the public with images of poor black men and women living on the government’s largesse.

In 2016 22% of blacks fell below the poverty line. That’s a troubling statistic given the fact that about 8.8% of whites were living in poverty. However, the fact remains that the rest of black America is not destitute. While black Americans make up a disproportionate percentage of people using welfare programs, the majority are still not reliant on government assistance and for this reason, the slavery metaphor does not work."

Conservatives, Let's Stop With The Plantation Talk

We should talk about conservative solutions to the problems facing the black community.

www.redstate.com

Earlier I quoted Booker T. Washington. Some whites love using his words to counter arguments made by blacks today regarding continuing white racism. To reflect our modern reality, I have modified Washington’s comments.

“There is another class of white people who make a business of keeping the advantages of whites maintained by gaslighting the public into a belief that white racism is now an illusion and that it is whites who face anti white racism. ... Some of these people do not want whites to lose preference, because they do not want to lose their jobs ... There is a certain class of white race-"problem solvers" who don’t want America to get well.”

There is no democratic plantation. We were republicans for 100 years. The party failed us. The following statement pretty much sums it up relative to blacks and our experiences with the major political parties. This is a comment from a man who saw the beginning of the first civil rights movement. A man who saw his parents spit on by whites during the days of Jim Crow.

I don’t say that to take sides with democrats, because I'm old enough and have seen MORE than enough to know that NEITHER political party is truly and collectively concerned about the well being of the black citizens of this country. It was no badge of honor to abolish slavery, or pass the civil rights act, the voting act or to even sign affirmative action into law.

Those were the most basic of human rights as well as rights of a tax paying citizen to be treated equally and fairly, so there is ZERO gratitude owed to either party for those so called "historical moments".

The racist history of the Democratic party is well documented. I will not be writing about the 1860 Democratic Party. I find is sad and pathetic that when we bring our grievance to the table, “conservatives” provide lectures to us on how long ago slavery was. Yet as they pander to get blacks to join the modern republican party, we must remember that it was the democrats who were pro slavery. But as I look back over the years since I cast my first ballot (1980), I see a republican party that holds the same ideology as the 1860 Democrats. This ideology comes complete with a wish to secede, defense of the confederacy and some have gone so far as to wish for or openly discuss the idea of a civil war.

You really working hard for that welfare check lol or token

Your sources of income are none of my business.

This is spoken by a black conservative.

" The plantation metaphor relies on the misperception that most black Americans are living in poverty. This assumption is demonstrably false; the majority of black Americans are not living in crime-ridden communities or suffering from poverty. But there is a reason why this belief exists. Many Americans might know that the majority of blacks are not poor, but the media constantly bombards the public with images of poor black men and women living on the government’s largesse.

In 2016 22% of blacks fell below the poverty line. That’s a troubling statistic given the fact that about 8.8% of whites were living in poverty. However, the fact remains that the rest of black America is not destitute. While black Americans make up a disproportionate percentage of people using welfare programs, the majority are still not reliant on government assistance and for this reason, the slavery metaphor does not work."

Conservatives, Let’s Stop With The Plantation Talk

I been in the black community for 40 years, I see what’s going on. And it’s not freedom

I've lived as a black man for 59 years. You can't tell me shit white man. So shut the hell up and listen.

Have you been to a black community?

I've lived as a black man for 59 years. You can't tell me shit white man. So shut the hell up and listen.

So that’s a no

 

[Oldestyle]

What's ironic is that you're here supporting a Joe Biden Presidency simply because he "says" that he's got your back...when in reality he was the guy who wrote the Senate version of the Clinton Crime Bill that put more blacks in prison than any other piece of legislation in this country's history!

That bill did nothing of the sort. Blacks supported that bill in the 90's because our communities were infested by a republican that allowed crack to be sold in our community to fund the contras. That bill ended in 2004. I will not be supporting a man that still wants men now proven innocent to be put to death.

Donald Trump is the "man" who passed prison reform to correct some of the injustices that Joe Biden wrote into that crime bill decades ago, IM2 but you're not supporting him while you are supporting the REAL racist! Malcolm X would call Biden out for his overt racism...you want to make Biden President!

 

[IM2]

There is no such plantation and let me quote Malcolm X since I forgot.

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On the plantation, you are completely dependent of those Democrats for your sustenance. They like keeping you reliant on them, yet they offer you very little in return if you think about it.

It's pretty obvious that if those Democrats have done so much for you, race wouldn't be such an issue with you. But they haven't. The Democrats have kept you poor, angry, and divided among yourselves. They've had a long history of telling you that if you vote for them, you'll no longer be poor, angry, and divided. But they always fail to deliver on their promises.

We were republicans for 100 years. There are reasons why we aren't now. Because if Democrats keep us poor, republicans kept us broke, homeless, and with no legal protection.

 

[Oldestyle]

Modern Republicans in a dishonest revision of history, have tried using the liberal beliefs of the original republican party to make claims to black people. For example they will use black republicans from the past to gaslight blacks to claim that the current republican party is the right choice for blacks. Meanwhile they use the past conservatism of the democratic party to claim that blacks today are being fooled by the democrats. That we are being tricked or given free stuff which creates a dependency that keeps blacks voting democrat against their best interest and that our interest would be better served if we joined the republican party. They use black historical figures as props.

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But there is one problem with this. Here are some words from Frederick Douglass:

“What to the American slave is your Fourth of July? I answer, a day that reveals to him more than all other days of the year, the gross injustice and cruelty to which he is the constant victim. To him your celebration is a sham; your boasted liberty an unholy license; your national greatness, swelling vanity; your sounds of rejoicing are empty and heartless; your shouts of liberty and equality, hollow mock; your prayers and hymns, your sermons and thanksgivings, with all your religious parade and solemnity, are to him mere bombast, fraud, deception, impiety, and hypocrisy - a thin veil to cover up crimes which would disgrace a nation of savages. There is not a nation of the earth guilty of practices more shocking and bloody than are the people of these United States at this very hour.”

You can't name one black republican today who would stand before the nation on the Fourth of July questioning and denouncing Americas continuing problem with race. Why? Because opposition to racism has always been a liberal ideal. Frederick Douglass was a progressive and not a conservative.

White conservatives have always opposed racial equality and have always advanced blacks who did not challenge white supremacy. Still today white conservatives love B.T. Washington. Why?

“There is another class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. ... Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs ... There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient to get well.”

This is the dumbest opinion of all time. Washington made this comment in 1911, now let's think about what was going on in those times to understand the stupidity of this statement. But whites loved it because Washington was blaming blacks for the problems created by a legalized system of racial oppression. Today this stupidity manifests itself in Larry Elders, Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Jessie Peterson, Ben Carson, Nora Wheatley, Starr Parker or Candice Owens.

This is not about opposition to sucessful blacks, because Oprah Winfrey is more successful than all the people in the prior paragraph combined and she is loved and admired. Barack Obama accomplished what no other black in the history of western civilization has and he is loved and admired. So it is apparent why right wing, anti black, white racism validating blacks are despised and it has nothing to do with success or free shit from democrats.

" The plantation metaphor relies on the misperception that most black Americans are living in poverty. This assumption is demonstrably false; the majority of black Americans are not living in crime-ridden communities or suffering from poverty. But there is a reason why this belief exists. Many Americans might know that the majority of blacks are not poor, but the media constantly bombards the public with images of poor black men and women living on the government’s largesse.

In 2016 22% of blacks fell below the poverty line. That’s a troubling statistic given the fact that about 8.8% of whites were living in poverty. However, the fact remains that the rest of black America is not destitute. While black Americans make up a disproportionate percentage of people using welfare programs, the majority are still not reliant on government assistance and for this reason, the slavery metaphor does not work."

Conservatives, Let's Stop With The Plantation Talk

We should talk about conservative solutions to the problems facing the black community.

www.redstate.com

Earlier I quoted Booker T. Washington. Some whites love using his words to counter arguments made by blacks today regarding continuing white racism. To reflect our modern reality, I have modified Washington’s comments.

“There is another class of white people who make a business of keeping the advantages of whites maintained by gaslighting the public into a belief that white racism is now an illusion and that it is whites who face anti white racism. ... Some of these people do not want whites to lose preference, because they do not want to lose their jobs ... There is a certain class of white race-"problem solvers" who don’t want America to get well.”

There is no democratic plantation. We were republicans for 100 years. The party failed us. The following statement pretty much sums it up relative to blacks and our experiences with the major political parties. This is a comment from a man who saw the beginning of the first civil rights movement. A man who saw his parents spit on by whites during the days of Jim Crow.

I don’t say that to take sides with democrats, because I'm old enough and have seen MORE than enough to know that NEITHER political party is truly and collectively concerned about the well being of the black citizens of this country. It was no badge of honor to abolish slavery, or pass the civil rights act, the voting act or to even sign affirmative action into law.

Those were the most basic of human rights as well as rights of a tax paying citizen to be treated equally and fairly, so there is ZERO gratitude owed to either party for those so called "historical moments".

The racist history of the Democratic party is well documented. I will not be writing about the 1860 Democratic Party. I find is sad and pathetic that when we bring our grievance to the table, “conservatives” provide lectures to us on how long ago slavery was. Yet as they pander to get blacks to join the modern republican party, we must remember that it was the democrats who were pro slavery. But as I look back over the years since I cast my first ballot (1980), I see a republican party that holds the same ideology as the 1860 Democrats. This ideology comes complete with a wish to secede, defense of the confederacy and some have gone so far as to wish for or openly discuss the idea of a civil war.

You really working hard for that welfare check lol or token

Your sources of income are none of my business.

This is spoken by a black conservative.

" The plantation metaphor relies on the misperception that most black Americans are living in poverty. This assumption is demonstrably false; the majority of black Americans are not living in crime-ridden communities or suffering from poverty. But there is a reason why this belief exists. Many Americans might know that the majority of blacks are not poor, but the media constantly bombards the public with images of poor black men and women living on the government’s largesse.

In 2016 22% of blacks fell below the poverty line. That’s a troubling statistic given the fact that about 8.8% of whites were living in poverty. However, the fact remains that the rest of black America is not destitute. While black Americans make up a disproportionate percentage of people using welfare programs, the majority are still not reliant on government assistance and for this reason, the slavery metaphor does not work."

Conservatives, Let’s Stop With The Plantation Talk

I been in the black community for 40 years, I see what’s going on. And it’s not freedom

I've lived as a black man for 59 years. You can't tell me shit white man. So shut the hell up and listen.

All those years and you haven't learned shit! Maybe it's time YOU opened your eyes?

 

[kaz]

Modern Republicans in a dishonest revision of history, have tried using the liberal beliefs of the original republican party to make claims to black people. For example they will use black republicans from the past to gaslight blacks to claim that the current republican party is the right choice for blacks. Meanwhile they use the past conservatism of the democratic party to claim that blacks today are being fooled by the democrats. That we are being tricked or given free stuff which creates a dependency that keeps blacks voting democrat against their best interest and that our interest would be better served if we joined the republican party. They use black historical figures as props.

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But there is one problem with this. Here are some words from Frederick Douglass:

“What to the American slave is your Fourth of July? I answer, a day that reveals to him more than all other days of the year, the gross injustice and cruelty to which he is the constant victim. To him your celebration is a sham; your boasted liberty an unholy license; your national greatness, swelling vanity; your sounds of rejoicing are empty and heartless; your shouts of liberty and equality, hollow mock; your prayers and hymns, your sermons and thanksgivings, with all your religious parade and solemnity, are to him mere bombast, fraud, deception, impiety, and hypocrisy - a thin veil to cover up crimes which would disgrace a nation of savages. There is not a nation of the earth guilty of practices more shocking and bloody than are the people of these United States at this very hour.”

You can't name one black republican today who would stand before the nation on the Fourth of July questioning and denouncing Americas continuing problem with race. Why? Because opposition to racism has always been a liberal ideal. Frederick Douglass was a progressive and not a conservative.

White conservatives have always opposed racial equality and have always advanced blacks who did not challenge white supremacy. Still today white conservatives love B.T. Washington. Why?

“There is another class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. ... Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs ... There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient to get well.”

This is the dumbest opinion of all time. Washington made this comment in 1911, now let's think about what was going on in those times to understand the stupidity of this statement. But whites loved it because Washington was blaming blacks for the problems created by a legalized system of racial oppression. Today this stupidity manifests itself in Larry Elders, Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Jessie Peterson, Ben Carson, Nora Wheatley, Starr Parker or Candice Owens.

This is not about opposition to sucessful blacks, because Oprah Winfrey is more successful than all the people in the prior paragraph combined and she is loved and admired. Barack Obama accomplished what no other black in the history of western civilization has and he is loved and admired. So it is apparent why right wing, anti black, white racism validating blacks are despised and it has nothing to do with success or free shit from democrats.

" The plantation metaphor relies on the misperception that most black Americans are living in poverty. This assumption is demonstrably false; the majority of black Americans are not living in crime-ridden communities or suffering from poverty. But there is a reason why this belief exists. Many Americans might know that the majority of blacks are not poor, but the media constantly bombards the public with images of poor black men and women living on the government’s largesse.

In 2016 22% of blacks fell below the poverty line. That’s a troubling statistic given the fact that about 8.8% of whites were living in poverty. However, the fact remains that the rest of black America is not destitute. While black Americans make up a disproportionate percentage of people using welfare programs, the majority are still not reliant on government assistance and for this reason, the slavery metaphor does not work."

Conservatives, Let's Stop With The Plantation Talk

We should talk about conservative solutions to the problems facing the black community.

www.redstate.com

Earlier I quoted Booker T. Washington. Some whites love using his words to counter arguments made by blacks today regarding continuing white racism. To reflect our modern reality, I have modified Washington’s comments.

“There is another class of white people who make a business of keeping the advantages of whites maintained by gaslighting the public into a belief that white racism is now an illusion and that it is whites who face anti white racism. ... Some of these people do not want whites to lose preference, because they do not want to lose their jobs ... There is a certain class of white race-"problem solvers" who don’t want America to get well.”

There is no democratic plantation. We were republicans for 100 years. The party failed us. The following statement pretty much sums it up relative to blacks and our experiences with the major political parties. This is a comment from a man who saw the beginning of the first civil rights movement. A man who saw his parents spit on by whites during the days of Jim Crow.

I don’t say that to take sides with democrats, because I'm old enough and have seen MORE than enough to know that NEITHER political party is truly and collectively concerned about the well being of the black citizens of this country. It was no badge of honor to abolish slavery, or pass the civil rights act, the voting act or to even sign affirmative action into law.

Those were the most basic of human rights as well as rights of a tax paying citizen to be treated equally and fairly, so there is ZERO gratitude owed to either party for those so called "historical moments".

The racist history of the Democratic party is well documented. I will not be writing about the 1860 Democratic Party. I find is sad and pathetic that when we bring our grievance to the table, “conservatives” provide lectures to us on how long ago slavery was. Yet as they pander to get blacks to join the modern republican party, we must remember that it was the democrats who were pro slavery. But as I look back over the years since I cast my first ballot (1980), I see a republican party that holds the same ideology as the 1860 Democrats. This ideology comes complete with a wish to secede, defense of the confederacy and some have gone so far as to wish for or openly discuss the idea of a civil war.

When an uppity black decides to think for themselves and leave the Democrat party, then they learn you're a liar and there is indeed a Democrat plantation as Democrats plant electronically plant a burning cross in his yard, lynch and cancel him

 

[Oldestyle]

There is no such plantation and let me quote Malcolm X since I forgot.

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On the plantation, you are completely dependent of those Democrats for your sustenance. They like keeping you reliant on them, yet they offer you very little in return if you think about it.

It's pretty obvious that if those Democrats have done so much for you, race wouldn't be such an issue with you. But they haven't. The Democrats have kept you poor, angry, and divided among yourselves. They've had a long history of telling you that if you vote for them, you'll no longer be poor, angry, and divided. But they always fail to deliver on their promises.

We were republicans for 100 years. There are reasons why we aren't now. Because if Democrats keep us poor, republicans kept us broke, homeless, and with no legal protection.

Ah, so it's Republicans that have turned black urban areas into high crime shit holes? Amazing how they've managed to do that when those areas have been controlled by liberal Democrats for decades, IM2!

 

[IM2]

Modern Republicans in a dishonest revision of history, have tried using the liberal beliefs of the original republican party to make claims to black people. For example they will use black republicans from the past to gaslight blacks to claim that the current republican party is the right choice for blacks. Meanwhile they use the past conservatism of the democratic party to claim that blacks today are being fooled by the democrats. That we are being tricked or given free stuff which creates a dependency that keeps blacks voting democrat against their best interest and that our interest would be better served if we joined the republican party. They use black historical figures as props.

View attachment 391982

But there is one problem with this. Here are some words from Frederick Douglass:

“What to the American slave is your Fourth of July? I answer, a day that reveals to him more than all other days of the year, the gross injustice and cruelty to which he is the constant victim. To him your celebration is a sham; your boasted liberty an unholy license; your national greatness, swelling vanity; your sounds of rejoicing are empty and heartless; your shouts of liberty and equality, hollow mock; your prayers and hymns, your sermons and thanksgivings, with all your religious parade and solemnity, are to him mere bombast, fraud, deception, impiety, and hypocrisy - a thin veil to cover up crimes which would disgrace a nation of savages. There is not a nation of the earth guilty of practices more shocking and bloody than are the people of these United States at this very hour.”

You can't name one black republican today who would stand before the nation on the Fourth of July questioning and denouncing Americas continuing problem with race. Why? Because opposition to racism has always been a liberal ideal. Frederick Douglass was a progressive and not a conservative.

White conservatives have always opposed racial equality and have always advanced blacks who did not challenge white supremacy. Still today white conservatives love B.T. Washington. Why?

“There is another class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. ... Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs ... There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient to get well.”

This is the dumbest opinion of all time. Washington made this comment in 1911, now let's think about what was going on in those times to understand the stupidity of this statement. But whites loved it because Washington was blaming blacks for the problems created by a legalized system of racial oppression. Today this stupidity manifests itself in Larry Elders, Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Jessie Peterson, Ben Carson, Nora Wheatley, Starr Parker or Candice Owens.

This is not about opposition to sucessful blacks, because Oprah Winfrey is more successful than all the people in the prior paragraph combined and she is loved and admired. Barack Obama accomplished what no other black in the history of western civilization has and he is loved and admired. So it is apparent why right wing, anti black, white racism validating blacks are despised and it has nothing to do with success or free shit from democrats.

" The plantation metaphor relies on the misperception that most black Americans are living in poverty. This assumption is demonstrably false; the majority of black Americans are not living in crime-ridden communities or suffering from poverty. But there is a reason why this belief exists. Many Americans might know that the majority of blacks are not poor, but the media constantly bombards the public with images of poor black men and women living on the government’s largesse.

In 2016 22% of blacks fell below the poverty line. That’s a troubling statistic given the fact that about 8.8% of whites were living in poverty. However, the fact remains that the rest of black America is not destitute. While black Americans make up a disproportionate percentage of people using welfare programs, the majority are still not reliant on government assistance and for this reason, the slavery metaphor does not work."

Conservatives, Let's Stop With The Plantation Talk

We should talk about conservative solutions to the problems facing the black community.

www.redstate.com

Earlier I quoted Booker T. Washington. Some whites love using his words to counter arguments made by blacks today regarding continuing white racism. To reflect our modern reality, I have modified Washington’s comments.

“There is another class of white people who make a business of keeping the advantages of whites maintained by gaslighting the public into a belief that white racism is now an illusion and that it is whites who face anti white racism. ... Some of these people do not want whites to lose preference, because they do not want to lose their jobs ... There is a certain class of white race-"problem solvers" who don’t want America to get well.”

There is no democratic plantation. We were republicans for 100 years. The party failed us. The following statement pretty much sums it up relative to blacks and our experiences with the major political parties. This is a comment from a man who saw the beginning of the first civil rights movement. A man who saw his parents spit on by whites during the days of Jim Crow.

I don’t say that to take sides with democrats, because I'm old enough and have seen MORE than enough to know that NEITHER political party is truly and collectively concerned about the well being of the black citizens of this country. It was no badge of honor to abolish slavery, or pass the civil rights act, the voting act or to even sign affirmative action into law.

Those were the most basic of human rights as well as rights of a tax paying citizen to be treated equally and fairly, so there is ZERO gratitude owed to either party for those so called "historical moments".

The racist history of the Democratic party is well documented. I will not be writing about the 1860 Democratic Party. I find is sad and pathetic that when we bring our grievance to the table, “conservatives” provide lectures to us on how long ago slavery was. Yet as they pander to get blacks to join the modern republican party, we must remember that it was the democrats who were pro slavery. But as I look back over the years since I cast my first ballot (1980), I see a republican party that holds the same ideology as the 1860 Democrats. This ideology comes complete with a wish to secede, defense of the confederacy and some have gone so far as to wish for or openly discuss the idea of a civil war.

You really working hard for that welfare check lol or token

Your sources of income are none of my business.

This is spoken by a black conservative.

" The plantation metaphor relies on the misperception that most black Americans are living in poverty. This assumption is demonstrably false; the majority of black Americans are not living in crime-ridden communities or suffering from poverty. But there is a reason why this belief exists. Many Americans might know that the majority of blacks are not poor, but the media constantly bombards the public with images of poor black men and women living on the government’s largesse.

In 2016 22% of blacks fell below the poverty line. That’s a troubling statistic given the fact that about 8.8% of whites were living in poverty. However, the fact remains that the rest of black America is not destitute. While black Americans make up a disproportionate percentage of people using welfare programs, the majority are still not reliant on government assistance and for this reason, the slavery metaphor does not work."

Conservatives, Let’s Stop With The Plantation Talk

I been in the black community for 40 years, I see what’s going on. And it’s not freedom

I've lived as a black man for 59 years. You can't tell me shit white man. So shut the hell up and listen.

Have you been to a black community?

I've lived as a black man for 59 years. You can't tell me shit white man. So shut the hell up and listen.

So that’s a no

If that's what your psychosis makes you think. I've lived as a black man for 59 years. So if you think I've never lived in a black neighborhood go make an appointment at your local mental health center.

 

[kaz]

There is no such plantation and let me quote Malcolm X since I forgot.

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On the plantation, you are completely dependent of those Democrats for your sustenance. They like keeping you reliant on them, yet they offer you very little in return if you think about it.

It's pretty obvious that if those Democrats have done so much for you, race wouldn't be such an issue with you. But they haven't. The Democrats have kept you poor, angry, and divided among yourselves. They've had a long history of telling you that if you vote for them, you'll no longer be poor, angry, and divided. But they always fail to deliver on their promises.

We were republicans for 100 years. There are reasons why we aren't now. Because if Democrats keep us poor, republicans kept us broke, homeless, and with no legal protection.

Republicans keep you broke?

It's Democrats who block vouchers for blacks who want a better education for their children.

It's Democrats who keep blacks dependent on welfare.

It's Democrats who import millions of illegals to take jobs from the poor in this country, disproportionately black.

Then you try to leave the Democrat party, and they target you for the color of your skin. That while Democrats are doing absolutely nothing for blacks, just taking your votes for granted.

A black man (and woman) needs a job. Democrats deny you that. Wanting to be a slave to them doesn't make you not a slave.

Republicans aren't doing shit to you but treating you like everyone else. You're delusional. Open your eyes to the reality of the world.

 

[IM2]

Modern Republicans in a dishonest revision of history, have tried using the liberal beliefs of the original republican party to make claims to black people. For example they will use black republicans from the past to gaslight blacks to claim that the current republican party is the right choice for blacks. Meanwhile they use the past conservatism of the democratic party to claim that blacks today are being fooled by the democrats. That we are being tricked or given free stuff which creates a dependency that keeps blacks voting democrat against their best interest and that our interest would be better served if we joined the republican party. They use black historical figures as props.

View attachment 391982

But there is one problem with this. Here are some words from Frederick Douglass:

“What to the American slave is your Fourth of July? I answer, a day that reveals to him more than all other days of the year, the gross injustice and cruelty to which he is the constant victim. To him your celebration is a sham; your boasted liberty an unholy license; your national greatness, swelling vanity; your sounds of rejoicing are empty and heartless; your shouts of liberty and equality, hollow mock; your prayers and hymns, your sermons and thanksgivings, with all your religious parade and solemnity, are to him mere bombast, fraud, deception, impiety, and hypocrisy - a thin veil to cover up crimes which would disgrace a nation of savages. There is not a nation of the earth guilty of practices more shocking and bloody than are the people of these United States at this very hour.”

You can't name one black republican today who would stand before the nation on the Fourth of July questioning and denouncing Americas continuing problem with race. Why? Because opposition to racism has always been a liberal ideal. Frederick Douglass was a progressive and not a conservative.

White conservatives have always opposed racial equality and have always advanced blacks who did not challenge white supremacy. Still today white conservatives love B.T. Washington. Why?

“There is another class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. ... Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs ... There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient to get well.”

This is the dumbest opinion of all time. Washington made this comment in 1911, now let's think about what was going on in those times to understand the stupidity of this statement. But whites loved it because Washington was blaming blacks for the problems created by a legalized system of racial oppression. Today this stupidity manifests itself in Larry Elders, Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Jessie Peterson, Ben Carson, Nora Wheatley, Starr Parker or Candice Owens.

This is not about opposition to sucessful blacks, because Oprah Winfrey is more successful than all the people in the prior paragraph combined and she is loved and admired. Barack Obama accomplished what no other black in the history of western civilization has and he is loved and admired. So it is apparent why right wing, anti black, white racism validating blacks are despised and it has nothing to do with success or free shit from democrats.

" The plantation metaphor relies on the misperception that most black Americans are living in poverty. This assumption is demonstrably false; the majority of black Americans are not living in crime-ridden communities or suffering from poverty. But there is a reason why this belief exists. Many Americans might know that the majority of blacks are not poor, but the media constantly bombards the public with images of poor black men and women living on the government’s largesse.

In 2016 22% of blacks fell below the poverty line. That’s a troubling statistic given the fact that about 8.8% of whites were living in poverty. However, the fact remains that the rest of black America is not destitute. While black Americans make up a disproportionate percentage of people using welfare programs, the majority are still not reliant on government assistance and for this reason, the slavery metaphor does not work."

Conservatives, Let's Stop With The Plantation Talk

We should talk about conservative solutions to the problems facing the black community.

www.redstate.com

Earlier I quoted Booker T. Washington. Some whites love using his words to counter arguments made by blacks today regarding continuing white racism. To reflect our modern reality, I have modified Washington’s comments.

“There is another class of white people who make a business of keeping the advantages of whites maintained by gaslighting the public into a belief that white racism is now an illusion and that it is whites who face anti white racism. ... Some of these people do not want whites to lose preference, because they do not want to lose their jobs ... There is a certain class of white race-"problem solvers" who don’t want America to get well.”

There is no democratic plantation. We were republicans for 100 years. The party failed us. The following statement pretty much sums it up relative to blacks and our experiences with the major political parties. This is a comment from a man who saw the beginning of the first civil rights movement. A man who saw his parents spit on by whites during the days of Jim Crow.

I don’t say that to take sides with democrats, because I'm old enough and have seen MORE than enough to know that NEITHER political party is truly and collectively concerned about the well being of the black citizens of this country. It was no badge of honor to abolish slavery, or pass the civil rights act, the voting act or to even sign affirmative action into law.

Those were the most basic of human rights as well as rights of a tax paying citizen to be treated equally and fairly, so there is ZERO gratitude owed to either party for those so called "historical moments".

The racist history of the Democratic party is well documented. I will not be writing about the 1860 Democratic Party. I find is sad and pathetic that when we bring our grievance to the table, “conservatives” provide lectures to us on how long ago slavery was. Yet as they pander to get blacks to join the modern republican party, we must remember that it was the democrats who were pro slavery. But as I look back over the years since I cast my first ballot (1980), I see a republican party that holds the same ideology as the 1860 Democrats. This ideology comes complete with a wish to secede, defense of the confederacy and some have gone so far as to wish for or openly discuss the idea of a civil war.

When an uppity black decides to think for themselves and leave the Democrat party, then they learn you're a liar and there is indeed a Democrat plantation as Democrats plant electronically plant a burning cross in his yard, lynch and cancel him

Blacks were republicans for 100 years. There is no democratic plantation.

 

[irosie91]

Modern Republicans in a dishonest revision of history, have tried using the liberal beliefs of the original republican party to make claims to black people. For example they will use black republicans from the past to gaslight blacks to claim that the current republican party is the right choice for blacks. Meanwhile they use the past conservatism of the democratic party to claim that blacks today are being fooled by the democrats. That we are being tricked or given free stuff which creates a dependency that keeps blacks voting democrat against their best interest and that our interest would be better served if we joined the republican party. They use black historical figures as props.

View attachment 391982

But there is one problem with this. Here are some words from Frederick Douglass:

“What to the American slave is your Fourth of July? I answer, a day that reveals to him more than all other days of the year, the gross injustice and cruelty to which he is the constant victim. To him your celebration is a sham; your boasted liberty an unholy license; your national greatness, swelling vanity; your sounds of rejoicing are empty and heartless; your shouts of liberty and equality, hollow mock; your prayers and hymns, your sermons and thanksgivings, with all your religious parade and solemnity, are to him mere bombast, fraud, deception, impiety, and hypocrisy - a thin veil to cover up crimes which would disgrace a nation of savages. There is not a nation of the earth guilty of practices more shocking and bloody than are the people of these United States at this very hour.”

You can't name one black republican today who would stand before the nation on the Fourth of July questioning and denouncing Americas continuing problem with race. Why? Because opposition to racism has always been a liberal ideal. Frederick Douglass was a progressive and not a conservative.

White conservatives have always opposed racial equality and have always advanced blacks who did not challenge white supremacy. Still today white conservatives love B.T. Washington. Why?

“There is another class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. ... Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs ... There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient to get well.”

This is the dumbest opinion of all time. Washington made this comment in 1911, now let's think about what was going on in those times to understand the stupidity of this statement. But whites loved it because Washington was blaming blacks for the problems created by a legalized system of racial oppression. Today this stupidity manifests itself in Larry Elders, Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Jessie Peterson, Ben Carson, Nora Wheatley, Starr Parker or Candice Owens.

This is not about opposition to sucessful blacks, because Oprah Winfrey is more successful than all the people in the prior paragraph combined and she is loved and admired. Barack Obama accomplished what no other black in the history of western civilization has and he is loved and admired. So it is apparent why right wing, anti black, white racism validating blacks are despised and it has nothing to do with success or free shit from democrats.

" The plantation metaphor relies on the misperception that most black Americans are living in poverty. This assumption is demonstrably false; the majority of black Americans are not living in crime-ridden communities or suffering from poverty. But there is a reason why this belief exists. Many Americans might know that the majority of blacks are not poor, but the media constantly bombards the public with images of poor black men and women living on the government’s largesse.

In 2016 22% of blacks fell below the poverty line. That’s a troubling statistic given the fact that about 8.8% of whites were living in poverty. However, the fact remains that the rest of black America is not destitute. While black Americans make up a disproportionate percentage of people using welfare programs, the majority are still not reliant on government assistance and for this reason, the slavery metaphor does not work."

Conservatives, Let's Stop With The Plantation Talk

We should talk about conservative solutions to the problems facing the black community.

www.redstate.com

Earlier I quoted Booker T. Washington. Some whites love using his words to counter arguments made by blacks today regarding continuing white racism. To reflect our modern reality, I have modified Washington’s comments.

“There is another class of white people who make a business of keeping the advantages of whites maintained by gaslighting the public into a belief that white racism is now an illusion and that it is whites who face anti white racism. ... Some of these people do not want whites to lose preference, because they do not want to lose their jobs ... There is a certain class of white race-"problem solvers" who don’t want America to get well.”

There is no democratic plantation. We were republicans for 100 years. The party failed us. The following statement pretty much sums it up relative to blacks and our experiences with the major political parties. This is a comment from a man who saw the beginning of the first civil rights movement. A man who saw his parents spit on by whites during the days of Jim Crow.

I don’t say that to take sides with democrats, because I'm old enough and have seen MORE than enough to know that NEITHER political party is truly and collectively concerned about the well being of the black citizens of this country. It was no badge of honor to abolish slavery, or pass the civil rights act, the voting act or to even sign affirmative action into law.

Those were the most basic of human rights as well as rights of a tax paying citizen to be treated equally and fairly, so there is ZERO gratitude owed to either party for those so called "historical moments".

The racist history of the Democratic party is well documented. I will not be writing about the 1860 Democratic Party. I find is sad and pathetic that when we bring our grievance to the table, “conservatives” provide lectures to us on how long ago slavery was. Yet as they pander to get blacks to join the modern republican party, we must remember that it was the democrats who were pro slavery. But as I look back over the years since I cast my first ballot (1980), I see a republican party that holds the same ideology as the 1860 Democrats. This ideology comes complete with a wish to secede, defense of the confederacy and some have gone so far as to wish for or openly discuss the idea of a civil war.

YYAAAAAWWWWNNNNN Im-2 you are a mindless parrot

 

[Redcurtain]

Modern Republicans in a dishonest revision of history, have tried using the liberal beliefs of the original republican party to make claims to black people. For example they will use black republicans from the past to gaslight blacks to claim that the current republican party is the right choice for blacks. Meanwhile they use the past conservatism of the democratic party to claim that blacks today are being fooled by the democrats. That we are being tricked or given free stuff which creates a dependency that keeps blacks voting democrat against their best interest and that our interest would be better served if we joined the republican party. They use black historical figures as props.

View attachment 391982

But there is one problem with this. Here are some words from Frederick Douglass:

“What to the American slave is your Fourth of July? I answer, a day that reveals to him more than all other days of the year, the gross injustice and cruelty to which he is the constant victim. To him your celebration is a sham; your boasted liberty an unholy license; your national greatness, swelling vanity; your sounds of rejoicing are empty and heartless; your shouts of liberty and equality, hollow mock; your prayers and hymns, your sermons and thanksgivings, with all your religious parade and solemnity, are to him mere bombast, fraud, deception, impiety, and hypocrisy - a thin veil to cover up crimes which would disgrace a nation of savages. There is not a nation of the earth guilty of practices more shocking and bloody than are the people of these United States at this very hour.”

You can't name one black republican today who would stand before the nation on the Fourth of July questioning and denouncing Americas continuing problem with race. Why? Because opposition to racism has always been a liberal ideal. Frederick Douglass was a progressive and not a conservative.

White conservatives have always opposed racial equality and have always advanced blacks who did not challenge white supremacy. Still today white conservatives love B.T. Washington. Why?

“There is another class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. ... Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs ... There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient to get well.”

This is the dumbest opinion of all time. Washington made this comment in 1911, now let's think about what was going on in those times to understand the stupidity of this statement. But whites loved it because Washington was blaming blacks for the problems created by a legalized system of racial oppression. Today this stupidity manifests itself in Larry Elders, Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Jessie Peterson, Ben Carson, Nora Wheatley, Starr Parker or Candice Owens.

This is not about opposition to sucessful blacks, because Oprah Winfrey is more successful than all the people in the prior paragraph combined and she is loved and admired. Barack Obama accomplished what no other black in the history of western civilization has and he is loved and admired. So it is apparent why right wing, anti black, white racism validating blacks are despised and it has nothing to do with success or free shit from democrats.

" The plantation metaphor relies on the misperception that most black Americans are living in poverty. This assumption is demonstrably false; the majority of black Americans are not living in crime-ridden communities or suffering from poverty. But there is a reason why this belief exists. Many Americans might know that the majority of blacks are not poor, but the media constantly bombards the public with images of poor black men and women living on the government’s largesse.

In 2016 22% of blacks fell below the poverty line. That’s a troubling statistic given the fact that about 8.8% of whites were living in poverty. However, the fact remains that the rest of black America is not destitute. While black Americans make up a disproportionate percentage of people using welfare programs, the majority are still not reliant on government assistance and for this reason, the slavery metaphor does not work."

Conservatives, Let's Stop With The Plantation Talk

We should talk about conservative solutions to the problems facing the black community.

www.redstate.com

Earlier I quoted Booker T. Washington. Some whites love using his words to counter arguments made by blacks today regarding continuing white racism. To reflect our modern reality, I have modified Washington’s comments.

“There is another class of white people who make a business of keeping the advantages of whites maintained by gaslighting the public into a belief that white racism is now an illusion and that it is whites who face anti white racism. ... Some of these people do not want whites to lose preference, because they do not want to lose their jobs ... There is a certain class of white race-"problem solvers" who don’t want America to get well.”

There is no democratic plantation. We were republicans for 100 years. The party failed us. The following statement pretty much sums it up relative to blacks and our experiences with the major political parties. This is a comment from a man who saw the beginning of the first civil rights movement. A man who saw his parents spit on by whites during the days of Jim Crow.

I don’t say that to take sides with democrats, because I'm old enough and have seen MORE than enough to know that NEITHER political party is truly and collectively concerned about the well being of the black citizens of this country. It was no badge of honor to abolish slavery, or pass the civil rights act, the voting act or to even sign affirmative action into law.

Those were the most basic of human rights as well as rights of a tax paying citizen to be treated equally and fairly, so there is ZERO gratitude owed to either party for those so called "historical moments".

The racist history of the Democratic party is well documented. I will not be writing about the 1860 Democratic Party. I find is sad and pathetic that when we bring our grievance to the table, “conservatives” provide lectures to us on how long ago slavery was. Yet as they pander to get blacks to join the modern republican party, we must remember that it was the democrats who were pro slavery. But as I look back over the years since I cast my first ballot (1980), I see a republican party that holds the same ideology as the 1860 Democrats. This ideology comes complete with a wish to secede, defense of the confederacy and some have gone so far as to wish for or openly discuss the idea of a civil war.

You really working hard for that welfare check lol or token

Your sources of income are none of my business.

This is spoken by a black conservative.

" The plantation metaphor relies on the misperception that most black Americans are living in poverty. This assumption is demonstrably false; the majority of black Americans are not living in crime-ridden communities or suffering from poverty. But there is a reason why this belief exists. Many Americans might know that the majority of blacks are not poor, but the media constantly bombards the public with images of poor black men and women living on the government’s largesse.

In 2016 22% of blacks fell below the poverty line. That’s a troubling statistic given the fact that about 8.8% of whites were living in poverty. However, the fact remains that the rest of black America is not destitute. While black Americans make up a disproportionate percentage of people using welfare programs, the majority are still not reliant on government assistance and for this reason, the slavery metaphor does not work."

Conservatives, Let’s Stop With The Plantation Talk

I been in the black community for 40 years, I see what’s going on. And it’s not freedom

I've lived as a black man for 59 years. You can't tell me shit white man. So shut the hell up and listen.

Have you been to a black community?

I've lived as a black man for 59 years. You can't tell me shit white man. So shut the hell up and listen.

So that’s a no

If that's what your psychosis makes you think. I've lived as a black man for 59 years. So if you think I've never lived in a black neighborhood go make an appointment at your local mental health center.

Just asking

 

[BluesLegend]

There are plenty of whites also stuck on Dem party plantations.

 

[kaz]

The left continues to hold black citizens in bondage as they continually placate and buy their votes through never ending social engineering and trinkets out of the treasury. Its repulsive but here they are, following up to their past of slavery and segregation and continuing on with their same twisted ideology while desperately projecting and whitewashing history. Its beyond appalling.

This is spoken by a black conservative.

" The plantation metaphor relies on the misperception that most black Americans are living in poverty. This assumption is demonstrably false; the majority of black Americans are not living in crime-ridden communities or suffering from poverty. But there is a reason why this belief exists. Many Americans might know that the majority of blacks are not poor, but the media constantly bombards the public with images of poor black men and women living on the government’s largesse.

In 2016 22% of blacks fell below the poverty line. That’s a troubling statistic given the fact that about 8.8% of whites were living in poverty. However, the fact remains that the rest of black America is not destitute. While black Americans make up a disproportionate percentage of people using welfare programs, the majority are still not reliant on government assistance and for this reason, the slavery metaphor does not work."

Conservatives, Let’s Stop With The Plantation Talk

So keep being white and lying to yourself.

The plantation metaphor is most applicable to intellectual freedom and how if you try to leave, Democrats send out their overlords to track you down and destroy you as a message to any other black who gets the wrong headed idea they are free to leave any time and they have a choice

 

[gipper]

There are plenty of whites also stuck on Dem party plantations.

True that, and lots of whites stuck on the R plantation too.

 

[kaz]

Modern Republicans in a dishonest revision of history, have tried using the liberal beliefs of the original republican party to make claims to black people. For example they will use black republicans from the past to gaslight blacks to claim that the current republican party is the right choice for blacks. Meanwhile they use the past conservatism of the democratic party to claim that blacks today are being fooled by the democrats. That we are being tricked or given free stuff which creates a dependency that keeps blacks voting democrat against their best interest and that our interest would be better served if we joined the republican party. They use black historical figures as props.

View attachment 391982

But there is one problem with this. Here are some words from Frederick Douglass:

“What to the American slave is your Fourth of July? I answer, a day that reveals to him more than all other days of the year, the gross injustice and cruelty to which he is the constant victim. To him your celebration is a sham; your boasted liberty an unholy license; your national greatness, swelling vanity; your sounds of rejoicing are empty and heartless; your shouts of liberty and equality, hollow mock; your prayers and hymns, your sermons and thanksgivings, with all your religious parade and solemnity, are to him mere bombast, fraud, deception, impiety, and hypocrisy - a thin veil to cover up crimes which would disgrace a nation of savages. There is not a nation of the earth guilty of practices more shocking and bloody than are the people of these United States at this very hour.”

You can't name one black republican today who would stand before the nation on the Fourth of July questioning and denouncing Americas continuing problem with race. Why? Because opposition to racism has always been a liberal ideal. Frederick Douglass was a progressive and not a conservative.

White conservatives have always opposed racial equality and have always advanced blacks who did not challenge white supremacy. Still today white conservatives love B.T. Washington. Why?

“There is another class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. ... Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs ... There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient to get well.”

This is the dumbest opinion of all time. Washington made this comment in 1911, now let's think about what was going on in those times to understand the stupidity of this statement. But whites loved it because Washington was blaming blacks for the problems created by a legalized system of racial oppression. Today this stupidity manifests itself in Larry Elders, Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Jessie Peterson, Ben Carson, Nora Wheatley, Starr Parker or Candice Owens.

This is not about opposition to sucessful blacks, because Oprah Winfrey is more successful than all the people in the prior paragraph combined and she is loved and admired. Barack Obama accomplished what no other black in the history of western civilization has and he is loved and admired. So it is apparent why right wing, anti black, white racism validating blacks are despised and it has nothing to do with success or free shit from democrats.

" The plantation metaphor relies on the misperception that most black Americans are living in poverty. This assumption is demonstrably false; the majority of black Americans are not living in crime-ridden communities or suffering from poverty. But there is a reason why this belief exists. Many Americans might know that the majority of blacks are not poor, but the media constantly bombards the public with images of poor black men and women living on the government’s largesse.

In 2016 22% of blacks fell below the poverty line. That’s a troubling statistic given the fact that about 8.8% of whites were living in poverty. However, the fact remains that the rest of black America is not destitute. While black Americans make up a disproportionate percentage of people using welfare programs, the majority are still not reliant on government assistance and for this reason, the slavery metaphor does not work."

Conservatives, Let's Stop With The Plantation Talk

We should talk about conservative solutions to the problems facing the black community.

www.redstate.com

Earlier I quoted Booker T. Washington. Some whites love using his words to counter arguments made by blacks today regarding continuing white racism. To reflect our modern reality, I have modified Washington’s comments.

“There is another class of white people who make a business of keeping the advantages of whites maintained by gaslighting the public into a belief that white racism is now an illusion and that it is whites who face anti white racism. ... Some of these people do not want whites to lose preference, because they do not want to lose their jobs ... There is a certain class of white race-"problem solvers" who don’t want America to get well.”

There is no democratic plantation. We were republicans for 100 years. The party failed us. The following statement pretty much sums it up relative to blacks and our experiences with the major political parties. This is a comment from a man who saw the beginning of the first civil rights movement. A man who saw his parents spit on by whites during the days of Jim Crow.

I don’t say that to take sides with democrats, because I'm old enough and have seen MORE than enough to know that NEITHER political party is truly and collectively concerned about the well being of the black citizens of this country. It was no badge of honor to abolish slavery, or pass the civil rights act, the voting act or to even sign affirmative action into law.

Those were the most basic of human rights as well as rights of a tax paying citizen to be treated equally and fairly, so there is ZERO gratitude owed to either party for those so called "historical moments".

The racist history of the Democratic party is well documented. I will not be writing about the 1860 Democratic Party. I find is sad and pathetic that when we bring our grievance to the table, “conservatives” provide lectures to us on how long ago slavery was. Yet as they pander to get blacks to join the modern republican party, we must remember that it was the democrats who were pro slavery. But as I look back over the years since I cast my first ballot (1980), I see a republican party that holds the same ideology as the 1860 Democrats. This ideology comes complete with a wish to secede, defense of the confederacy and some have gone so far as to wish for or openly discuss the idea of a civil war.

Hopefully you’re a smart enough liberal to know these bozos on here are going to take your well thought out and nicely cited post and simply call you names before degrading into racist claims. Good luck, I loved the post!

Well, you beat everyone to it. First racist post in the thread. Nice job

 

[22lcidw]

Modern Republicans in a dishonest revision of history, have tried using the liberal beliefs of the original republican party to make claims to black people. For example they will use black republicans from the past to gaslight blacks to claim that the current republican party is the right choice for blacks. Meanwhile they use the past conservatism of the democratic party to claim that blacks today are being fooled by the democrats. That we are being tricked or given free stuff which creates a dependency that keeps blacks voting democrat against their best interest and that our interest would be better served if we joined the republican party. They use black historical figures as props.

View attachment 391982

But there is one problem with this. Here are some words from Frederick Douglass:

“What to the American slave is your Fourth of July? I answer, a day that reveals to him more than all other days of the year, the gross injustice and cruelty to which he is the constant victim. To him your celebration is a sham; your boasted liberty an unholy license; your national greatness, swelling vanity; your sounds of rejoicing are empty and heartless; your shouts of liberty and equality, hollow mock; your prayers and hymns, your sermons and thanksgivings, with all your religious parade and solemnity, are to him mere bombast, fraud, deception, impiety, and hypocrisy - a thin veil to cover up crimes which would disgrace a nation of savages. There is not a nation of the earth guilty of practices more shocking and bloody than are the people of these United States at this very hour.”

You can't name one black republican today who would stand before the nation on the Fourth of July questioning and denouncing Americas continuing problem with race. Why? Because opposition to racism has always been a liberal ideal. Frederick Douglass was a progressive and not a conservative.

White conservatives have always opposed racial equality and have always advanced blacks who did not challenge white supremacy. Still today white conservatives love B.T. Washington. Why?

“There is another class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. ... Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs ... There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient to get well.”

This is the dumbest opinion of all time. Washington made this comment in 1911, now let's think about what was going on in those times to understand the stupidity of this statement. But whites loved it because Washington was blaming blacks for the problems created by a legalized system of racial oppression. Today this stupidity manifests itself in Larry Elders, Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Jessie Peterson, Ben Carson, Nora Wheatley, Starr Parker or Candice Owens.

This is not about opposition to sucessful blacks, because Oprah Winfrey is more successful than all the people in the prior paragraph combined and she is loved and admired. Barack Obama accomplished what no other black in the history of western civilization has and he is loved and admired. So it is apparent why right wing, anti black, white racism validating blacks are despised and it has nothing to do with success or free shit from democrats.

" The plantation metaphor relies on the misperception that most black Americans are living in poverty. This assumption is demonstrably false; the majority of black Americans are not living in crime-ridden communities or suffering from poverty. But there is a reason why this belief exists. Many Americans might know that the majority of blacks are not poor, but the media constantly bombards the public with images of poor black men and women living on the government’s largesse.

In 2016 22% of blacks fell below the poverty line. That’s a troubling statistic given the fact that about 8.8% of whites were living in poverty. However, the fact remains that the rest of black America is not destitute. While black Americans make up a disproportionate percentage of people using welfare programs, the majority are still not reliant on government assistance and for this reason, the slavery metaphor does not work."

Conservatives, Let's Stop With The Plantation Talk

We should talk about conservative solutions to the problems facing the black community.

www.redstate.com

Earlier I quoted Booker T. Washington. Some whites love using his words to counter arguments made by blacks today regarding continuing white racism. To reflect our modern reality, I have modified Washington’s comments.

“There is another class of white people who make a business of keeping the advantages of whites maintained by gaslighting the public into a belief that white racism is now an illusion and that it is whites who face anti white racism. ... Some of these people do not want whites to lose preference, because they do not want to lose their jobs ... There is a certain class of white race-"problem solvers" who don’t want America to get well.”

There is no democratic plantation. We were republicans for 100 years. The party failed us. The following statement pretty much sums it up relative to blacks and our experiences with the major political parties. This is a comment from a man who saw the beginning of the first civil rights movement. A man who saw his parents spit on by whites during the days of Jim Crow.

I don’t say that to take sides with democrats, because I'm old enough and have seen MORE than enough to know that NEITHER political party is truly and collectively concerned about the well being of the black citizens of this country. It was no badge of honor to abolish slavery, or pass the civil rights act, the voting act or to even sign affirmative action into law.

Those were the most basic of human rights as well as rights of a tax paying citizen to be treated equally and fairly, so there is ZERO gratitude owed to either party for those so called "historical moments".

The racist history of the Democratic party is well documented. I will not be writing about the 1860 Democratic Party. I find is sad and pathetic that when we bring our grievance to the table, “conservatives” provide lectures to us on how long ago slavery was. Yet as they pander to get blacks to join the modern republican party, we must remember that it was the democrats who were pro slavery. But as I look back over the years since I cast my first ballot (1980), I see a republican party that holds the same ideology as the 1860 Democrats. This ideology comes complete with a wish to secede, defense of the confederacy and some have gone so far as to wish for or openly discuss the idea of a civil war.

When you win everything you will condemn the youngest ones to impoverishment and economic slavery. Ain't nobody working in a group going to excel while others are bums doing the same thing and taxed at 70%.

Bullshit. This didn't happen to whites. So just stop.

This is now, not back then.

 

[kaz]

What's ironic is that you're here supporting a Joe Biden Presidency simply because he "says" that he's got your back...when in reality he was the guy who wrote the Senate version of the Clinton Crime Bill that put more blacks in prison than any other piece of legislation in this country's history!

That bill did nothing of the sort. Blacks supported that bill in the 90's because our communities were infested by a republican that allowed crack to be sold in our community to fund the contras. That bill ended in 2004. I will not be supporting a man that still wants men now proven innocent to be put to death.

Your issue isn't that you're black. It's that your brain is programmed by leftists. Just like any white leftist.

You really believe that shit, don't you?

 

[JGalt]

There is no such plantation and let me quote Malcolm X since I forgot.

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On the plantation, you are completely dependent of those Democrats for your sustenance. They like keeping you reliant on them, yet they offer you very little in return if you think about it.

It's pretty obvious that if those Democrats have done so much for you, race wouldn't be such an issue with you. But they haven't. The Democrats have kept you poor, angry, and divided among yourselves. They've had a long history of telling you that if you vote for them, you'll no longer be poor, angry, and divided. But they always fail to deliver on their promises.

We were republicans for 100 years. There are reasons why we aren't now. Because if Democrats keep us poor, republicans kept us broke, homeless, and with no legal protection.

Your ignorance of American history is astounding. If it weren't for the Republicans, your Democrat massas would still be beating you every day and raping your wives every night.

 

[kaz]

Simple question for you, IM2...has liberal Democratic control been a good thing or a bad thing for blacks living in American urban settings?
If you claim it's been a good thing...then explain Chicago and New York...
The fact is...liberals have used the black vote for decades to keep themselves in power while their policies have made life worse for blacks living in our cities. Do you honestly think Bill De Blasio is good for blacks in New York? His policies are literally killing them by the thousands!

Chicago and other cities are a perfect example of the realities of what elitist leftist Democrat policies have done to black America. Who is way disproportionately terrorized and murdered by gangs? Blacks.

Then look who's doing most of the rioting and taking the police protection away? White leftists.

White leftists are the scourge of humanity. They are the true evil that plagues civilization. Black America are their greatest victims. And it's sad that black America votes for that. Some sort of Stockholm syndrome going on there

 

[Moonglow]

Modern Republicans in a dishonest revision of history, have tried using the liberal beliefs of the original republican party to make claims to black people. For example they will use black republicans from the past to gaslight blacks to claim that the current republican party is the right choice for blacks. Meanwhile they use the past conservatism of the democratic party to claim that blacks today are being fooled by the democrats. That we are being tricked or given free stuff which creates a dependency that keeps blacks voting democrat against their best interest and that our interest would be better served if we joined the republican party. They use black historical figures as props.

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But there is one problem with this. Here are some words from Frederick Douglass:

“What to the American slave is your Fourth of July? I answer, a day that reveals to him more than all other days of the year, the gross injustice and cruelty to which he is the constant victim. To him your celebration is a sham; your boasted liberty an unholy license; your national greatness, swelling vanity; your sounds of rejoicing are empty and heartless; your shouts of liberty and equality, hollow mock; your prayers and hymns, your sermons and thanksgivings, with all your religious parade and solemnity, are to him mere bombast, fraud, deception, impiety, and hypocrisy - a thin veil to cover up crimes which would disgrace a nation of savages. There is not a nation of the earth guilty of practices more shocking and bloody than are the people of these United States at this very hour.”

You can't name one black republican today who would stand before the nation on the Fourth of July questioning and denouncing Americas continuing problem with race. Why? Because opposition to racism has always been a liberal ideal. Frederick Douglass was a progressive and not a conservative.

White conservatives have always opposed racial equality and have always advanced blacks who did not challenge white supremacy. Still today white conservatives love B.T. Washington. Why?

“There is another class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. ... Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs ... There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient to get well.”

This is the dumbest opinion of all time. Washington made this comment in 1911, now let's think about what was going on in those times to understand the stupidity of this statement. But whites loved it because Washington was blaming blacks for the problems created by a legalized system of racial oppression. Today this stupidity manifests itself in Larry Elders, Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Jessie Peterson, Ben Carson, Nora Wheatley, Starr Parker or Candice Owens.

This is not about opposition to sucessful blacks, because Oprah Winfrey is more successful than all the people in the prior paragraph combined and she is loved and admired. Barack Obama accomplished what no other black in the history of western civilization has and he is loved and admired. So it is apparent why right wing, anti black, white racism validating blacks are despised and it has nothing to do with success or free shit from democrats.

" The plantation metaphor relies on the misperception that most black Americans are living in poverty. This assumption is demonstrably false; the majority of black Americans are not living in crime-ridden communities or suffering from poverty. But there is a reason why this belief exists. Many Americans might know that the majority of blacks are not poor, but the media constantly bombards the public with images of poor black men and women living on the government’s largesse.

In 2016 22% of blacks fell below the poverty line. That’s a troubling statistic given the fact that about 8.8% of whites were living in poverty. However, the fact remains that the rest of black America is not destitute. While black Americans make up a disproportionate percentage of people using welfare programs, the majority are still not reliant on government assistance and for this reason, the slavery metaphor does not work."

Conservatives, Let's Stop With The Plantation Talk

We should talk about conservative solutions to the problems facing the black community.

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Earlier I quoted Booker T. Washington. Some whites love using his words to counter arguments made by blacks today regarding continuing white racism. To reflect our modern reality, I have modified Washington’s comments.

“There is another class of white people who make a business of keeping the advantages of whites maintained by gaslighting the public into a belief that white racism is now an illusion and that it is whites who face anti white racism. ... Some of these people do not want whites to lose preference, because they do not want to lose their jobs ... There is a certain class of white race-"problem solvers" who don’t want America to get well.”

There is no democratic plantation. We were republicans for 100 years. The party failed us. The following statement pretty much sums it up relative to blacks and our experiences with the major political parties. This is a comment from a man who saw the beginning of the first civil rights movement. A man who saw his parents spit on by whites during the days of Jim Crow.

I don’t say that to take sides with democrats, because I'm old enough and have seen MORE than enough to know that NEITHER political party is truly and collectively concerned about the well being of the black citizens of this country. It was no badge of honor to abolish slavery, or pass the civil rights act, the voting act or to even sign affirmative action into law.

Those were the most basic of human rights as well as rights of a tax paying citizen to be treated equally and fairly, so there is ZERO gratitude owed to either party for those so called "historical moments".

The racist history of the Democratic party is well documented. I will not be writing about the 1860 Democratic Party. I find is sad and pathetic that when we bring our grievance to the table, “conservatives” provide lectures to us on how long ago slavery was. Yet as they pander to get blacks to join the modern republican party, we must remember that it was the democrats who were pro slavery. But as I look back over the years since I cast my first ballot (1980), I see a republican party that holds the same ideology as the 1860 Democrats. This ideology comes complete with a wish to secede, defense of the confederacy and some have gone so far as to wish for or openly discuss the idea of a civil war.

Their attempts to make the blacks feel guilty for how they vote is most annoying.