There is effectively no ceasefire

[justoffal]

All just market manipulation words. Reports say that traffic through the strait of Hormuz has picked up..... However other reports say that Iran is reclosing the strait because of Israel's war with Hezbollah... Once against demonstrating that Iran is a state sponsor of international terrorism. What could be more obvious?

Now that it has begun and now that the assets are in place stupid to stop now. This isn't the United States and Israel versus Iran by the way this is the United States and Israel versus China and Russia through a proxy. There's a pretty fair bet that one of the reasons Iran continues to launch missiles even though most of that infrastructure has been destroyed because they're being so applied regularly overland by both China and Russia.

Now is not the time for a ceasefire now is the time to strike while the iron is hot and finish the job. No one's going to win a popularity contest in the meantime. And yes the old adage applies: You're going to make an omelet you got to break some eggs.

Trump really had no choice while they were tens of thousands of civilians standing on bridges and on Power plant property....
He will strike the bridges in the power plants when everybody has let down and stopped looking.

Jo

 

[Churchill]

All just market manipulation words. Reports say that traffic through the strait of Hormuz has picked up..... However other reports say that Iran is reclosing the strait because of Israel's war with Hezbollah... Once against demonstrating that Iran is a state sponsor of international terrorism. What could be more obvious?

Now that it has begun and now that the assets are in place stupid to stop now. This isn't the United States and Israel versus Iran by the way this is the United States and Israel versus China and Russia through a proxy. There's a pretty fair bet that one of the reasons Iran continues to launch missiles even though most of that infrastructure has been destroyed because they're being so applied regularly overland by both China and Russia.

Now is not the time for a ceasefire now is the time to strike while the iron is hot and finish the job. No one's going to win a popularity contest in the meantime. And yes the old adage applies: You're going to make an omelet you got to break some eggs.

Trump really had no choice while they were tens of thousands of civilians standing on bridges and on Power plant property....
He will strike the bridges in the power plants when everybody has let down and stopped looking.

Jo

Grow up man.

Iran took it on faith the the US was trustworthy, Pakistan even posted that the ceasefire included Lebanon, that was the understanding but it was a lie.

Israel is now committing terrorist atrocities in Lebanon as the world watches and does nothing - 200 people have been killed and 1,000 injured in the last 24 hours alone.

God some of you people are stupid.

 

[Oddball]

And now that smug azzhole Bibi is taking credit for the "success" of the attack.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

And now that smug azzhole Bibi is taking credit for the "success" of the attack.

Making the identity of the senior Ally quite clear and it’s not Trump

 

[toobfreak]

All just market manipulation words. Reports say that traffic through the strait of Hormuz has picked up..... However other reports say that Iran is reclosing the strait because of Israel's war with Hezbollah... Once against demonstrating that Iran is a state sponsor of international terrorism. What could be more obvious?

Iran is doing pretty much just what I expected they always do: keep changing the playing field trying to buy time while intending never to really give up a thing.

If Israel stopped attacking Hezbollah, will Iran call Hezbollah off of them?

No.

Will Hezbollah stop attacking Israel?

No.

And if Israel agrees to leave Hezbollah alone, then the Iranians will just throw up another condition.

The only way to resolve this matter is to bomb the F out of Iran until there is nothing left for them to fight with. You would think that after FORTY-SEVEN YEARS of this bull, the US and world would have learned.

There is no word for compromise, settle, or negotiate in the Persian language. In many ways, they are like the Japs and you already know what it took to break the backs of Japan.

Time to man up and finally ADMIT that you cannot WIN a real war unless you FIGHT a real war. And real wars BEGIN with the action of destroying all of your enemy's infrastructure, not avoid it.

'Clean War' is just a liberal fantasy--- in real war, lots of people suffer and die and shit gets destroyed.

 

[Winco]

And now that smug azzhole Bibi is taking credit for the "success" of the attack.

When will you finally admit that trump is owned by Bibi ? And Putin.

 

[Churchill]

Iran is doing pretty much just what I expected they always do: keep changing the playing field trying to buy time while intending never to really give up a thing.

Why do you say that? they had two weeks so why would they not enjoy that?

If Israel stopped attacking Hezbollah, will Iran call Hezbollah off of them?

Yes.

No.

Will Hezbollah stop attacking Israel?

No.

And if Israel agrees to leave Hezbollah alone, then the Iranians will just throw up another condition.

The only way to resolve this matter is to bomb the F out of Iran until there is nothing left for them to fight with. You would think that after FORTY-SEVEN YEARS of this bull, the US and world would have learned.

There is no word for compromise, settle, or negotiate in the Persian language. In many ways, they are like the Japs and you already know what it took to break the backs of Japan.

Time to man up and finally ADMIT that you cannot WIN a real war unless you FIGHT a real war. And real wars BEGIN with the action of destroying all of your enemy's infrastructure, not avoid it.

'Clean War' is just a liberal fantasy--- in real war, lots of people suffer and die and shit gets destroyed.

 

[Anarchy666]

Nobody gives a shit what some rando on a forum has to say. No source = no topic.

 

[Godboy]

Grow up man.

Iran took it on faith the the US was trustworthy, Pakistan even posted that the ceasefire included Lebanon, that was the understanding but it was a lie.

Israel is now committing terrorist atrocities in Lebanon as the world watches and does nothing - 200 people have been killed and 1,000 injured in the last 24 hours alone.

God some of you people are stupid.

Iran cant have nukes and they cant have terrorists. Thats the bare minimum. Killing terrorists is a normal activity that will never stop. You always kill terrorists, no matter what.

 

[Godboy]

Nobody gives a shit what some rando on a forum has to say. No source = no topic.

The OP has a start date of 2013. HE isnt a rando. YOU are the rando. Learn your place, newb.

 

[Anarchy666]

The OP has a start date of 2013. HE isnt a rando. YOU are the rando. Learn your place, newb.

I stand by what I said

 

[Darkwind]

Iran is doing pretty much just what I expected they always do: keep changing the playing field trying to buy time while intending never to really give up a thing.

Winner.

 

[Blaster]

All just market manipulation words. Reports say that traffic through the strait of Hormuz has picked up..... However other reports say that Iran is reclosing the strait because of Israel's war with Hezbollah... Once against demonstrating that Iran is a state sponsor of international terrorism. What could be more obvious?

Now that it has begun and now that the assets are in place stupid to stop now. This isn't the United States and Israel versus Iran by the way this is the United States and Israel versus China and Russia through a proxy. There's a pretty fair bet that one of the reasons Iran continues to launch missiles even though most of that infrastructure has been destroyed because they're being so applied regularly overland by both China and Russia.

Now is not the time for a ceasefire now is the time to strike while the iron is hot and finish the job. No one's going to win a popularity contest in the meantime. And yes the old adage applies: You're going to make an omelet you got to break some eggs.

Trump really had no choice while they were tens of thousands of civilians standing on bridges and on Power plant property....
He will strike the bridges in the power plants when everybody has let down and stopped looking.

Jo

How can Iran close the strait when they have no navy?

 

[1srelluc]

I look at it like this.....It gives our forces a break and time to resupply.....We can resume hostilities and kill them in wholesale lots at our leisure.

That and it gives us a real good look at Iran's intentions and their movement of forces, not that there's much doubt at this point.

 

[georgephillip]

Once against demonstrating that Iran is a state sponsor of international terrorism. What could be more obvious?

Iran is not invading/occupying two of its neighbors.
Israel is.
Iran has not been accused of genocide.
Israel has,
It is glaringly obvious that Israel has been the source of terror in West Asia for the last 40 years, at least.

1982-2000 Israeli occupation of Southern Lebanon - Wikipedia

 

[Godboy]

Iran is doing pretty much just what I expected they always do: keep changing the playing field trying to buy time while intending never to really give up a thing.

If Israel stopped attacking Hezbollah, will Iran call Hezbollah off of them?

No.

Will Hezbollah stop attacking Israel?

No.

And if Israel agrees to leave Hezbollah alone, then the Iranians will just throw up another condition.

The only way to resolve this matter is to bomb the F out of Iran until there is nothing left for them to fight with. You would think that after FORTY-

Time to man up and finally ADMIT that you cannot WIN a real war unless you FIGHT a real war. And real wars BEGIN with the action of destroying all of your enemy's infrastructure, not avoid it.

'Clean War' is just a liberal fantasy--- in real war, lots of people suffer and die and shit gets destroyed.

Yep, i agree with all of that.

Let theorize what the DOD is up to...

If you ask a dem, they think Trump is calling all the shots and they are just winging it and second guessing all of their actions. Thats fuckin childish bullshit. This entire thing has been wargamed out by experts. They have preplanned counter actions for everything Iran can do. No one is wnging shit, soooo...

Are they going to get a peace deal where nothing more is gained? Hell no. Why would the US accept a shit deal while Iran is crippled? They wouldnt.

Are we going to get aREAL deal, where we get constant supervision of gheir nuclear reactors, or they have to give up nuclear energy entirely? It seems unlikely that Iran would accept either scenario. They would just run out Trumps 90 day timer before he needs congressional approval, which he wont get.

I have hope that we are tricking Iran with this "truce". Maybe we just need to wait for israel to pound Hezbollah, THEN israel will be free to invade Iran with ground forces, along with US marines, special forces, the Kurds, and the increasingly armed civilians.

 

[Churchill]

Iran cant have nukes and they cant have terrorists.

Not fair, Israel has both.

Thats the bare minimum. Killing terrorists is a normal activity that will never stop.

So bomb Israel then if you're serious about that.

You always kill terrorists, no matter what.

Or send them weapons and veto for them in the UN and act as their servants, don't forget that one.

Here, wave your flag like a proud Ismerican

 

[jacksonlamb]

Trump and his buddies are making oodles and boodles of $$$ in using the war to manipulate the market.

 

[Robert W]

Grow up man.

Iran took it on faith the the US was trustworthy, Pakistan even posted that the ceasefire included Lebanon, that was the understanding but it was a lie.

Israel is now committing terrorist atrocities in Lebanon as the world watches and does nothing - 200 people have been killed and 1,000 injured in the last 24 hours alone.

God some of you people are stupid.

God said you are wrong.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Making the identity of the senior Ally quite clear and it’s not Trump

Bibi must have the pee tape.