There is a God-sized hole in America that is being filled by drugs, sexual immorality and abortion

[Asclepias]

Morals are a standard agreed upon. Morals are only as relevant as what the public agrees they are. If you think it shows that you are moral because you get married before having sex then you are really just a prude.

 

[fncceo]

Morals are a standard agreed upon. Morals are only as relevant as what the public agrees they are. If you think it shows that you are moral because you get married before having sex then you are really just a prude.

Actually, ethics refers to an agreed community standard. Morality is personal and normative.

 

[katsteve2012]

Morals are a standard agreed upon. Morals are only as relevant as what the public agrees they are. If you think it shows that you are moral because you get married before having sex then you are really just a prude.

Actually, prostitution thrived more in the 19th century than it does now:

In the 19th century, parlor house brothels catered to upper class clientele, while bawdy houses catered to the lower class. At concert saloons, men could eat, listen to music, watch a fight, or pay women for sex. Over 200 brothels existed in lower Manhattan. Prostitution was illegal under the vagrancy laws, but was not well-enforced by police and city officials, who were bribed by brothel owners and madams. Attempts to regulate prostitution were struck down on the grounds that regulation would be counter to the public good. Seventy-five percent of New York men had some type of sexually transmitted disease.[2]

The gold rush profits of the 1840s to 1900 attracted gambling, crime, saloons, and prostitution to the mining towns of the wild west. A brothel-keeper, Julia Bulette, who was active in the mining town of Virginia City, Nevada, was murdered in 1867. Thirty years before, in 1836, the New York City courtesan Helen Jewett was murdered, by one of her customers gaining prostitution considerable attention. The Lorette Ordinance of 1857 prohibited prostitution on the first floor of buildings in New Orleans.[3]Nevertheless, prostitution continued to grow rapidly in the U.S., becoming a $6.3 million business in 1858, more than the shipping and brewing industries combined..

 

[Asclepias]

Morals are a standard agreed upon. Morals are only as relevant as what the public agrees they are. If you think it shows that you are moral because you get married before having sex then you are really just a prude.

Actually, ethics refers to an agreed community standard. Morality is personal and normative.

You dont get morality out of the air. Its an agreed upon standard masquerading as original thought. Thats why you tend to have the same morals as the people you are closest to.

 

[Asclepias]

Morals are a standard agreed upon. Morals are only as relevant as what the public agrees they are. If you think it shows that you are moral because you get married before having sex then you are really just a prude.

Actually, prostitution thrived more in the 19th century than it does now:

In the 19th century, parlor house brothels catered to upper class clientele, while bawdy houses catered to the lower class. At concert saloons, men could eat, listen to music, watch a fight, or pay women for sex. Over 200 brothels existed in lower Manhattan. Prostitution was illegal under the vagrancy laws, but was not well-enforced by police and city officials, who were bribed by brothel owners and madams. Attempts to regulate prostitution were struck down on the grounds that regulation would be counter to the public good. Seventy-five percent of New York men had some type of sexually transmitted disease.[2]

The gold rush profits of the 1840s to 1900 attracted gambling, crime, saloons, and prostitution to the mining towns of the wild west. A brothel-keeper, Julia Bulette, who was active in the mining town of Virginia City, Nevada, was murdered in 1867. Thirty years before, in 1836, the New York City courtesan Helen Jewett was murdered, by one of her customers gaining prostitution considerable attention. The Lorette Ordinance of 1857 prohibited prostitution on the first floor of buildings in New Orleans.[3]Nevertheless, prostitution continued to grow rapidly in the U.S., becoming a $6.3 million business in 1858, more than the shipping and brewing industries combined..

I kinda figured with all the crap that went on in the past its actually more moral today than its ever been.

 

[Chuz Life]

Ginsberg's legacy

A-list gay couple ‘married’ by Justice Ginsburg arrested for rape of male student

 

[cnm]

And people prayed more, and gave more to charity, and went to church, and there weren't so many women having abortions and giving birth out of wedlock!!!

 

[cnm]

Marking my posts as "funny" really doesn't accomplish anything!!! If you have something to say, say it!!! How can we have a discussion when you are afraid to speak your mind!!!

It marks you as a figure of fun with whom discussion is pointless.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Marking my posts as "funny" really doesn't accomplish anything!!! If you have something to say, say it!!! How can we have a discussion when you are afraid to speak your mind!!!

Actually it does.

It indicates to others that your posts are as wrong as they are ridiculous – completely devoid of merit.

In this case your thread premise fails as a confusion of correlation and causation fallacy: your incorrect perception that America having become ‘godless’ is the cause of various ‘social ills’ – when in fact nothing could be further from the truth.

Neither Christians in particular nor theists in general have a ‘monopoly’ on morality – those free from religion are just as moral, if not more so.

Drug abuse, abortion, and prostitution have always existed – even in times of authoritarian piety and in places with authoritarian Christian regimes.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I think it is clear that there is a moral decline. Communities used to watch over each other, now murder is just another part of the news. Do you need religion to be good, of course not, but when entire communities agreed on what was right or wrong, there were fewer problems. Now, everything is flexible, yay. I'll put my needles in the public bathroom and go have casual, meaningless sex.

Nonsense.

The notion of ‘moral decline’ is nothing more than reactionary sophistry.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I'm old enough to remember when everyone had lots of kids!!! There were kids everywhere up and down the street!!! Now, you hardly ever see kids!!! Abortion and birth control has ruined our families and ruined our country!!!

Wrong.

The actual threat to America is this sort of rightwing reactionaryism and religious authoritarianism.

 

[fncceo]

The actual threat to America is this sort of rightwing reactionaryism and religious authoritarianism.

I'm not seeing a lot of religious authoritarianism in the US these days ... Thank G-d

 

[Bush92]

When most people prayed daily, did their best to obey the Ten Commandments, and went to church on Sunday, we did not have all these problems!!!

The only “God sized hole” that I’m aware of is Nancy Pelosi’s big mouth.

 

[Bush92]

When most people prayed daily, did their best to obey the Ten Commandments, and went to church on Sunday, we did not have all these problems!!!

This is what liberalism gets you. Godless, directionless, country with a people easily led around by the nose. Democratic Party doesn’t want people to think for themselves. CNN and MSNBC will tell you how to think through the DNC. Don’t question Big Brother.

 

[fncceo]

I remember seeing an interview with Margaret Atwood, who had just published her book, 'A Handmaid's Tale' in 1985.

She said she began writing her book shortly after the election of Ronald Reagan and the rise of religious activism in the US.

She was convinced that the Evangelicals and their allies in government would install a Xtian theocracy in the US and if they were unable to do that, they would plunge the country into civil war.

Of course, her fears were groundless, Americans paid no attention to the religious right then and they pay no attention to them today. Worrying about the rise of a radical theocracy in the American melting pot is far-fetched fear mongering at its worst.

 

[Penelope]

When most people prayed daily, did their best to obey the Ten Commandments, and went to church on Sunday, we did not have all these problems!!!

False!!!!

 

[Butch_Coolidge]

When most people prayed daily, did their best to obey the Ten Commandments, and went to church on Sunday, we did not have all these problems!!!

Lol it’s amazing how you don’t seem to realize that you pull all of this out of your ass.

You mean the good old days of the Catholic Church? Before they knew they were depraved pedophile freaks.


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[toobfreak]

There is a God-sized hole in America that is being filled by drugs, sexual immorality and abortion

Sounds like you are describing Washington, DC.

 

[hobelim]

When most people prayed daily, did their best to obey the Ten Commandments, and went to church on Sunday, we did not have all these problems!!!

Maybe if the Church stopped perpetuating the idolatrous worship of another human being the people wouldn't be under the curse of death and running amok without a clue? Ever think of that smartypants?


When the sheep go astray isn't it the shepherds who fucked up? Would God build prisons for stray sheep or fire the shepherds?

They "Did their best to obey the ten commandments"? Really? Someone has a gun to your head when you go to church and turn to the lifeless work of human hands for spiritual life? Its too hard to stay home on Sunday or go on a picnic? Afraid to be burned at the stake? The smell of God flesh is too irresistible? You're addicted? lol...yeah right.

Try harder. Your best isn't good enough.

 

[hobelim]

I remember seeing an interview with Margaret Atwood, who had just published her book, 'A Handmaid's Tale' in 1985.

She said she began writing her book shortly after the election of Ronald Reagan and the rise of religious activism in the US.

She was convinced that the Evangelicals and their allies in government would install a Xtian theocracy in the US and if they were unable to do that, they would plunge the country into civil war.

Of course, her fears were groundless, Americans paid no attention to the religious right then and they pay no attention to them today. Worrying about the rise of a radical theocracy in the American melting pot is far-fetched fear mongering at its worst.

woefully naive, not to mention blind to present events.

Many evangelicals have been openly advocating and actively usurping positions of authority in government for decades with the expressed intent to change laws, dictate national policy, harass gays and take over the world for Jesus of course, because they just love him to death,.How is someone supposed to pay no attention to that?

And I bet they won' t even give it to him when he comes. Those power hungry money grubbing sanctimonious hypocritical bastards! Dumb all over, a little ugly on the side.

They don't even give a shit if they betray their own country since they are doing the Lords work. So what?


Its the rise of the nutzies. Its actually happening. It will be fantastic, The best. Spectacular. The greatest thing ever. Really unbelievable, believe me,.

Be careful. Just walk around with a blank stare and goofy smile on your face as if you haven't had an intelligent thought since God left Chicago and they won't swarm, tear your flesh, rip off your limbs, and eat your brains.