There are no conservatives here

[Mac1958]

The worst of it is that the Republican Party does the opposite of what it promotes. The party of "small government" has expanded the size of government in each of its Administrations. The party of "fiscal responsonsibility" runs up huge deficits every time they're in power, and 3 of the last 4 Republican Presidents have crashed the economy.

Yeah, that's certainly a big part of it. They just don't care -- the usual suspects have convinced them that they're in a "war" (literally), and in war, the ends justify the means.

So it's not about advancing conservatism or making anything better. It's just about "winning" their "war".

They've become like Jihadis: Just destroy and figure things out later. And it's spreading across the spectrum.

 

[Norman]

The worst of it is that the Republican Party does the opposite of what it promotes. The party of "small government" has expanded the size of government in each of its Administrations. The party of "fiscal responsonsibility" runs up huge deficits every time they're in power, and 3 of the last 4 Republican Presidents have crashed the economy.

Yeah, that's certainly a big part of it. They just don't care -- the usual suspects have convinced them that they're in a "war" (literally), and in war, the ends justify the means.

So it's not about advancing conservatism or making anything better. It's just about "winning" their "war".

They've become like Jihadis: Just destroy and figure things out later. And it's spreading across the spectrum.

Yeah it's the republicans who are rioting and looting currently, and justifying it all.

Ridiculous post. Social justice warriors always project.

 

[Mac1958]

The worst of it is that the Republican Party does the opposite of what it promotes. The party of "small government" has expanded the size of government in each of its Administrations. The party of "fiscal responsonsibility" runs up huge deficits every time they're in power, and 3 of the last 4 Republican Presidents have crashed the economy.

Yeah, that's certainly a big part of it. They just don't care -- the usual suspects have convinced them that they're in a "war" (literally), and in war, the ends justify the means.

So it's not about advancing conservatism or making anything better. It's just about "winning" their "war".

They've become like Jihadis: Just destroy and figure things out later. And it's spreading across the spectrum.

Yeah it's the republicans who are rioting and looting currently, justifying it all.

Ridiculous post.

I can't make you want to understand the experiences, perceptions and perspectives of others.

That's usually a normal trait of just being a human.

 

[Norman]

The worst of it is that the Republican Party does the opposite of what it promotes. The party of "small government" has expanded the size of government in each of its Administrations. The party of "fiscal responsonsibility" runs up huge deficits every time they're in power, and 3 of the last 4 Republican Presidents have crashed the economy.

Yeah, that's certainly a big part of it. They just don't care -- the usual suspects have convinced them that they're in a "war" (literally), and in war, the ends justify the means.

So it's not about advancing conservatism or making anything better. It's just about "winning" their "war".

They've become like Jihadis: Just destroy and figure things out later. And it's spreading across the spectrum.

Yeah it's the republicans who are rioting and looting currently, justifying it all.

Ridiculous post.

I can't make you want to understand the experiences, perceptions and perspectives of others.

That's usually a normal trait of just being a human.

What I stated is not a perspective but a FACT you IMBECILE.

If you can't understand that, there are plenty of far left nations that prioritize feels and agendas over facts. Take your pick.

Your post describes the democrats currently, not the republicans. Social justice warriors always project. Literally the organization they are supporting is soon to be branded terrorist organization.

 

[Mac1958]

The worst of it is that the Republican Party does the opposite of what it promotes. The party of "small government" has expanded the size of government in each of its Administrations. The party of "fiscal responsonsibility" runs up huge deficits every time they're in power, and 3 of the last 4 Republican Presidents have crashed the economy.

Yeah, that's certainly a big part of it. They just don't care -- the usual suspects have convinced them that they're in a "war" (literally), and in war, the ends justify the means.

So it's not about advancing conservatism or making anything better. It's just about "winning" their "war".

They've become like Jihadis: Just destroy and figure things out later. And it's spreading across the spectrum.

Yeah it's the republicans who are rioting and looting currently, justifying it all.

Ridiculous post.

I can't make you want to understand the experiences, perceptions and perspectives of others.

That's usually a normal trait of just being a human.

What I stated is not a perspective but a FACT you IMBECILE.

If you can't understand that, there are plenty of far left nations that prioritize feels and agendas over facts. Take your pick.

Your post describes the democrats currently, not the republicans. Social justice warriors always project. Literally the organization they are supporting is soon to be branded terrorist organization.

I know. You expect others to understand YOUR perspectives and perceptions, but you're under no obligation to return that fundamental human respect.

Usually an individual will develop a certain understanding of, and empathy for, the perspectives of others by the time they graduate from high school or so.

One very positive benefit of this is that it opens our eyes to the world and makes us more observant and better-equipped to function in life with others.

Some just don't reach that point.

 

[IM2]

/ Thread fail.

Funny that you think you can "conservatives" by posting a wiki article defining classic "liberalism?"

A definition that leftardz like you don't even try to live up to, .

Fool, that's what YOU believe. Read this definition idiot, then be quiet.

Modern liberalism in the United States is the dominant version of liberalism in the United States. It combines ideas of civil liberty and equality with support for social justice and a mixed economy.

Modern liberalism in the United States - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Norman]

The worst of it is that the Republican Party does the opposite of what it promotes. The party of "small government" has expanded the size of government in each of its Administrations. The party of "fiscal responsonsibility" runs up huge deficits every time they're in power, and 3 of the last 4 Republican Presidents have crashed the economy.

Yeah, that's certainly a big part of it. They just don't care -- the usual suspects have convinced them that they're in a "war" (literally), and in war, the ends justify the means.

So it's not about advancing conservatism or making anything better. It's just about "winning" their "war".

They've become like Jihadis: Just destroy and figure things out later. And it's spreading across the spectrum.

Yeah it's the republicans who are rioting and looting currently, justifying it all.

Ridiculous post.

I can't make you want to understand the experiences, perceptions and perspectives of others.

That's usually a normal trait of just being a human.

What I stated is not a perspective but a FACT you IMBECILE.

If you can't understand that, there are plenty of far left nations that prioritize feels and agendas over facts. Take your pick.

Your post describes the democrats currently, not the republicans. Social justice warriors always project. Literally the organization they are supporting is soon to be branded terrorist organization.

I know. You expect others to understand YOUR perspectives and perceptions, but you're under no obligation to return that fundamental human respect.

Usually an individual will develop a certain understanding of, and empathy for, the perspectives of others by the time they graduate from high school or so.

One very positive benefit of this is that it opens our eyes to the world and makes us more observant and better-equipped to function in life with others.

Some just don't reach that point.

You seem to not have developed that empathy or human respect, else you would have not insulted people I have a great deal of respect for.

It is you who just called a group of people destructive jihadis who have done nothing to deserve the name, while your far left groups are terrorizing America. So no, you do not even remotely believe in the drivel you post, liar.

 

[IM2]

 

[IM2]

We've just witnessed USMB history! This is the OPs first post that does not mention race

Actually it's not and since you don't say shit to whites here who post threads about race everywhere shut the **** up.

 

[Dragonlady]

Conservatism has been so mangled and perverted by talk radio and distorted by a weird pseudo-libertarianism that it's unrecognizable at this point.

Anti-science, anti-intellectualism, anti-curiosity, binary, willful ignorance: That's what passes as conservatism today.

Oh, bullshit! The left leaning media is attempting to paint conservatives with all of those lies and have been doing so for decades now! Anyone who doesn't agree with their agenda is "labeled" and dismissed! You can't argue that your agenda works because obviously it doesn't...one look at Democratically controlled cities demonstrates THAT...so your only means of staying in power is to accuse the other side of being "evil"!

Talk about biased media lies and bullshit. Your entire post is a FOX News talking point based on false information and lies. The idea that Democratic ideas don't work because some US cities are a mess is right wing propaganda which you just lap up with a fork and spoon without question, and parrot like a fool.

City government is about picking up the garbage, and and looking after building and zoning. It nut's and bolts technical stuff, involved in enabling people to get to work, get home, efficiently and safely. It is not about unemployment, economics, or public policy. Those are state and federal initiatives.



New York is a the largest, most vibrant and successful city in the world, and it's run by Democrats. And it's thriving. But New York has a bigger budget than many countries, and they have enough money to enact their own public policy to counter the negative effects of successive Republican Administrations.

City governments are the ones most impacted by the failures of Republican economic policies. When companies off-shore manufacturing, municipal tax bases get hit first. And after 40 years of Republicans pushing property tax cuts, cities are already operating on a shoestring.

Detroit didn't go bankrupt because it had Democrats in City Hall. Detroit went bankrupt because of NAFTA. Because Detroit is a one-industry town, and that industry moved to Mexico, along with its suppliers. When the jobs left, the people had no money to buy things, so the stores, and hair salons, and gas stations, had no customers, and people began moving away to cities where there was work. As properties were vacated, the tax base shrunk and the city had no revenue.

Every time Detroit is brought up in discussions, Republicans point to it as yet another Democratic failure of governance, but in reality, it's just Republicans doing what they always do: Blaming Democratics for the spectacular failures of Republican economic policies, and their disastrous effect on the American people.

 

[IM2]

People here calling themselves conservatives really don't know...

Classical Liberalism

Classical liberalism is a political ideology and a branch of liberalism which advocates civil liberties under the rule of law with an emphasis on economic freedom.

Classical liberalism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Indeed. That is classical liberalism. The path of the Founding Fathers. It has no relationship to modern-day, misnamed "liberals".

The real question is, why have the Democrats and the slaves they drag around moved so affectionately and rapidly into Communism?

Actually what so called conservatives today believe have nothing to do with the founders except for the racism. Those who have hijacked the term are closer to fascists than to the founders.

 

[IM2]

Liberals used to believe in free speech...now they believe in censorship. You tell me who's REALLY changed!

Liberals don't believe in censorship. You believe that extremist views should be accepted by society.

 

[IM2]

Conservatism has been so mangled and perverted by talk radio and distorted by a weird pseudo-libertarianism that it's unrecognizable at this point.

Anti-science, anti-intellectualism, anti-curiosity, binary, willful ignorance: That's what passes as conservatism today.

Amen!

 

[SeaGal]

Conservatism has been so mangled and perverted by talk radio and distorted by a weird pseudo-libertarianism that it's unrecognizable at this point.

Anti-science, anti-intellectualism, anti-curiosity, binary, willful ignorance: That's what passes as conservatism today.

For someone who bills themselves as neither Right nor Left I'm fascinated by the parroting of the far-Left's talking points. Let's look at them, ok?

anti-science - whose philosophy denies the science of DNA?...the science of human embryonic development?

anti-intellectualism - which group denies the right to a quality education to inner-city kids in favor of donations from a 'public service' union?

anti-curiosity - which president appointed a NASA administrator who said this -“When I became the NASA administrator–or before I became the NASA administrator—(the president) charged me with three things. One was he wanted me to help re-inspire children to want to get into science and math, he wanted me to expand our international relationships, and third, and perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science, math and engineering.” (#1 is great, 2 & 3?, not really a role for NASA)

https://www.spaceflightinsider.com/editorial/happened-charlie-bolden/

binary - what does that even mean?

willful ignorance - here is an excellent example of willful ignorance...
<iframe width="853" height="480" src="" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

 

[Mac1958]

Conservatism has been so mangled and perverted by talk radio and distorted by a weird pseudo-libertarianism that it's unrecognizable at this point.

Anti-science, anti-intellectualism, anti-curiosity, binary, willful ignorance: That's what passes as conservatism today.

For someone who bills themselves as neither Right nor Left I'm fascinated by the parroting of the far-Left's talking points. Let's look at them, ok?

anti-science - whose philosophy denies the science of DNA?...the science of human embryonic development?

anti-intellectualism - which group denies the right to a quality education to inner-city kids in favor of donations from a 'public service' union?

anti-curiosity - which president appointed a NASA administrator who said this -“When I became the NASA administrator–or before I became the NASA administrator—(the president) charged me with three things. One was he wanted me to help re-inspire children to want to get into science and math, he wanted me to expand our international relationships, and third, and perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science, math and engineering.” (#1 is great, 2 & 3?, not really a role for NASA)

https://www.spaceflightinsider.com/editorial/happened-charlie-bolden/

binary - what does that even mean?

willful ignorance - here is an excellent example of willful ignorance...
<iframe width="853" height="480" src="" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Well, you start off with a fallacy (I "bill" myself as left-leaning) and move on to a list of deflections.

I'm used to it.

Oh, and you're on the "internet". You could look up "binary" if you wanted to.

 

[Kondor3]

...We need a new conservatism that is actually capable of conserving American freedoms and excellence.

Good. Then maybe you'd better abandon the Party of Corporate Whores (R) and convince others to come along, and found a New Party.

 

[Kondor3]

...binary - what does that even mean?...

That one's easy: "Yer either with us or agin us"...

 

[IM2]

Conservatism has been so mangled and perverted by talk radio and distorted by a weird pseudo-libertarianism that it's unrecognizable at this point.

Anti-science, anti-intellectualism, anti-curiosity, binary, willful ignorance: That's what passes as conservatism today.

For someone who bills themselves as neither Right nor Left I'm fascinated by the parroting of the far-Left's talking points. Let's look at them, ok?

anti-science - whose philosophy denies the science of DNA?...the science of human embryonic development?

anti-intellectualism - which group denies the right to a quality education to inner-city kids in favor of donations from a 'public service' union?

anti-curiosity - which president appointed a NASA administrator who said this -“When I became the NASA administrator–or before I became the NASA administrator—(the president) charged me with three things. One was he wanted me to help re-inspire children to want to get into science and math, he wanted me to expand our international relationships, and third, and perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science, math and engineering.” (#1 is great, 2 & 3?, not really a role for NASA)

https://www.spaceflightinsider.com/editorial/happened-charlie-bolden/

binary - what does that even mean?

willful ignorance - here is an excellent example of willful ignorance...
<iframe width="853" height="480" src="" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Actually he is not parroting anything. He is telling the truth relative to the current iteration of the right.

 

[SeaGal]

Conservatism has been so mangled and perverted by talk radio and distorted by a weird pseudo-libertarianism that it's unrecognizable at this point.

Anti-science, anti-intellectualism, anti-curiosity, binary, willful ignorance: That's what passes as conservatism today.

For someone who bills themselves as neither Right nor Left I'm fascinated by the parroting of the far-Left's talking points. Let's look at them, ok?

anti-science - whose philosophy denies the science of DNA?...the science of human embryonic development?

anti-intellectualism - which group denies the right to a quality education to inner-city kids in favor of donations from a 'public service' union?

anti-curiosity - which president appointed a NASA administrator who said this -“When I became the NASA administrator–or before I became the NASA administrator—(the president) charged me with three things. One was he wanted me to help re-inspire children to want to get into science and math, he wanted me to expand our international relationships, and third, and perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science, math and engineering.” (#1 is great, 2 & 3?, not really a role for NASA)

https://www.spaceflightinsider.com/editorial/happened-charlie-bolden/

binary - what does that even mean?

willful ignorance - here is an excellent example of willful ignorance...
<iframe width="853" height="480" src="" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Well, you start off with a fallacy (I "bill" myself as left-leaning) and move on to a list of deflections.

I'm used to it.

Oh, and you're on the "internet". You could look up "binary" if you wanted to.

Well if you leaned anymore you'd fall on your face.

Actually, what I offered are not deflections but uncomfortable realities that faux-liberals prefer to ignore.

The definition of binary doesn't apply in the context of your post. I'm eagerly anticipating your own personal definition - inquiring minds want to know.

 

[SeaGal]

Conservatism has been so mangled and perverted by talk radio and distorted by a weird pseudo-libertarianism that it's unrecognizable at this point.

Anti-science, anti-intellectualism, anti-curiosity, binary, willful ignorance: That's what passes as conservatism today.

For someone who bills themselves as neither Right nor Left I'm fascinated by the parroting of the far-Left's talking points. Let's look at them, ok?

anti-science - whose philosophy denies the science of DNA?...the science of human embryonic development?

anti-intellectualism - which group denies the right to a quality education to inner-city kids in favor of donations from a 'public service' union?

anti-curiosity - which president appointed a NASA administrator who said this -“When I became the NASA administrator–or before I became the NASA administrator—(the president) charged me with three things. One was he wanted me to help re-inspire children to want to get into science and math, he wanted me to expand our international relationships, and third, and perhaps foremost, he wanted me to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science, math and engineering.” (#1 is great, 2 & 3?, not really a role for NASA)

https://www.spaceflightinsider.com/editorial/happened-charlie-bolden/

binary - what does that even mean?

willful ignorance - here is an excellent example of willful ignorance...
<iframe width="853" height="480" src="" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Actually he is not parroting anything. He is telling the truth relative to the current iteration of the right.

Actually, he isn't.