The Wuhan Virus Has Exposed Modern Americans’ Disconnect from Reality

It’s sad and disgusting how easily so many surrendered their basic human rights with so little facts provided.


While the experts claim that little is known about the Wuhan virus, enough is known to suggest that the response has been excessive. While there is a worrying possibility that the Wuhan virus will make a sizable impact on public health (along with the possibility that it probably won’t), the hype surrounding it has already created a huge imposition on daily life and cost the global economy trillions of dollars. Everyone must “do their part” to confront the pandemic or face the wrath of their conscientious peers.

This kind of hype and the subsequent reaction to it seems to grow worse with each year. Right before the Wuhan virus, there was President Trump’s “historic” impeachment. And before that, there was the death of General Qasem Soleimani and the possibility of World War III. And before that, in no particular order, there was the imminent climate catastrophe, Russian collusion and the Mueller report, the Amazon rainforest burning down, and periodic nuclear threats from North Korea.


People should know better by now, yet they seem to fall for the hype every time—including many conservatives. The promise of the tech age and the ubiquity of smartphones and the internet was that it would arm people with relevant information and rational courses of action. Rather, it has done the opposite—magnifying doubts and fears about everything and everyone.

In most cases, the only thing that information technology has done is cause people to become less tethered to reality. Screens now replace people’s senses, and the algorithms embedded in social media do people’s thinking for them.

As such, most people spend more time in the virtual world and less time in the real one, making them ever more vulnerable to exaggerated doomsday narratives. In particular, this retreat from reality takes a toll on a person’s memory, imagination, and common sense.

Remember swine flu? Or bird flu? Or Ebola? Or Zika? Or SARS? Each of these diseases from the past two decades was arguably worse than the Wuhan virus. In the case of swine flu, more than 1,000 people died from it before Obama declared a state of emergency. Big Tech and the mainstream news will never report this. And yet, for all their distrust of the media, people still seem inclined to believe the pundits and clueless scientists over their own experience.

This then leads to a lack of context. Everything seems new and unprecedented, and therefore unknown and scary—except that this isn’t true. Pandemics have alwaysexisted, and there are proven ways to deal with them that don’t involve shutting down the economy and putting everyone under house arrest.


Buddy, you need to check your talking points. We are well past "The Virus is a Hoax" and have moved on to, "It's someone else's fault but not Trump's" Which is why Trump is trying to blame the CDC, NIH, FDA and of course China for his failure to prepare for this crisis.
As I recall when Trump was implementing travel restrictions with China you stupid assholes were are screaming racists. Do you ever get the notion that you're completely full of shit? Hell you must see it running out of your ears everytime you look in a mirror.
 
Now this is some funny shit right there... I am a leftist.
Hilarious.
I never said that. I just copied and pasted it from Google. Being stoopid absolves me of all responsibility. You? :heehee:

Okay...great... I can say the source I copied from was wrong - PERFECT!!!.... now that we are past that...
DISPUTE THIS...
March 25th, 10 year old girl is 1st H1N1 case.
April 29th, first death in the U.S. 2 year old in Houston TX.
Search all day long.... you will find nothing else.


H1N1 killed exactly 0 people in the first month. Primarily, because it had little to no effect on a large % of the population. I myself had it. I barely had the sniffles. My son, however, was in the hospital for 6 days and was the scariest time in my life.
Covid-19, in the same time frame is devastatingly worse than H1N1. And is far-far - far more contagious.
so what happened it got so bad?

Time. It was not nearly as contagious. And, unlike Covid, most of the people who died were young or had underlying conditions that contributed to their death. Thank God H1N1 was not nearly as bad as Covid.
The math is very easy. Very.
If we use your source, the death rate of H1N1 was .02%.
As of today, CV-19 is 1 out of 55. almost 2%.
Can you see that is way-way-way worse?
sure it was. it killed over 14,000 people

guess what NY was the hot spot on that one as well. interesting. someone should ask why.

MMWR Dispatch on the outbreak of 2009 H1N1 influenza infection in a high school in New York City, that was, at the time, the largest reported cluster of 2009 H1N1 cases in the United States.

At the June 25, 2009 Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices Meeting Adobe PDF file, CDC estimated that at least 1 million cases of 2009 H1N1 influenza had occurred in the United States.


One million by June in the US. CDC numbers, and the racist obammy CDC canceled all nonessntial travel to Mexico. fk, it's amazing what one can find when one goes looking. The fact is, this isn't any different than this one. none. zip.

Seriously, what is wrong with you?
What H1N1 did over it's lifetime is irrelevant to what any other virus does in it's first month.
You understand that?
I keep noticing how both of you refuse to even acknowledge that, in the same time period, Cv-19 is monumentally worse. It isn't even close. You should examine your own opinions and ask why you won't acknowledge that. This virus, in just a few weeks, is horrifically worse than others.
I am sorry, but you have to have the I.Q. of a turnip not to see it.
One of us in 6 months is going to look back and say they were wrong.
And as data continues to flow in, I’m feeling more and more secure in my beliefs.
exactly. The problem will be this, see we quarantined and that's why. there wasn't enough data, they responded like they do for climate change/ global warming models. ocean at your doors in Pittsburgh by 2020. oops. folks, modeling fails every time an expert pushes it out. in fact the dude that supplied the model already stated he was wrong. bingo, every model is always wrong.


That is wrong.
The MAIN reason we did not get the 20' ocean rise and only got about 1' ocean rise is because of our reaction to emissions.
If we had continued the emissions rates of the 1950's, then we would have gotten the 20' ocean rise.

Modeling always has to work better than anything else, because it is based on past documented effects being interpolated into the future. With climate, it is true that something did slow global warming, but it turned out to be that fresh volcanic lava absorbs huge amounts of CO2, and it is not like that is something we can count on, control, or use. We just got lucky.

What any virus does in its first months is fairly irrelevant to the long run because everyone will likely develop a natural resistance to it after getting it, so next year it will likely be much less significant.
modeling is never right. name one model that worked with climate change/ global warming? go ahead, you want to stick your dick in that hole go for it.
 
It’s sad and disgusting how easily so many surrendered their basic human rights with so little facts provided.


While the experts claim that little is known about the Wuhan virus, enough is known to suggest that the response has been excessive. While there is a worrying possibility that the Wuhan virus will make a sizable impact on public health (along with the possibility that it probably won’t), the hype surrounding it has already created a huge imposition on daily life and cost the global economy trillions of dollars. Everyone must “do their part” to confront the pandemic or face the wrath of their conscientious peers.

This kind of hype and the subsequent reaction to it seems to grow worse with each year. Right before the Wuhan virus, there was President Trump’s “historic” impeachment. And before that, there was the death of General Qasem Soleimani and the possibility of World War III. And before that, in no particular order, there was the imminent climate catastrophe, Russian collusion and the Mueller report, the Amazon rainforest burning down, and periodic nuclear threats from North Korea.


People should know better by now, yet they seem to fall for the hype every time—including many conservatives. The promise of the tech age and the ubiquity of smartphones and the internet was that it would arm people with relevant information and rational courses of action. Rather, it has done the opposite—magnifying doubts and fears about everything and everyone.

In most cases, the only thing that information technology has done is cause people to become less tethered to reality. Screens now replace people’s senses, and the algorithms embedded in social media do people’s thinking for them.

As such, most people spend more time in the virtual world and less time in the real one, making them ever more vulnerable to exaggerated doomsday narratives. In particular, this retreat from reality takes a toll on a person’s memory, imagination, and common sense.

Remember swine flu? Or bird flu? Or Ebola? Or Zika? Or SARS? Each of these diseases from the past two decades was arguably worse than the Wuhan virus. In the case of swine flu, more than 1,000 people died from it before Obama declared a state of emergency. Big Tech and the mainstream news will never report this. And yet, for all their distrust of the media, people still seem inclined to believe the pundits and clueless scientists over their own experience.

This then leads to a lack of context. Everything seems new and unprecedented, and therefore unknown and scary—except that this isn’t true. Pandemics have alwaysexisted, and there are proven ways to deal with them that don’t involve shutting down the economy and putting everyone under house arrest.


Buddy, you need to check your talking points. We are well past "The Virus is a Hoax" and have moved on to, "It's someone else's fault but not Trump's" Which is why Trump is trying to blame the CDC, NIH, FDA and of course China for his failure to prepare for this crisis.
As I recall when Trump was implementing travel restrictions with China you stupid assholes were are screaming racists. Do you ever get the notion that you're completely full of shit? Hell you must see it running out of your ears everytime you look in a mirror.
by the way obammy stopped travel to mexico with h1n1. is he racist too?
 
It’s sad and disgusting how easily so many surrendered their basic human rights with so little facts provided.


While the experts claim that little is known about the Wuhan virus, enough is known to suggest that the response has been excessive. While there is a worrying possibility that the Wuhan virus will make a sizable impact on public health (along with the possibility that it probably won’t), the hype surrounding it has already created a huge imposition on daily life and cost the global economy trillions of dollars. Everyone must “do their part” to confront the pandemic or face the wrath of their conscientious peers.

This kind of hype and the subsequent reaction to it seems to grow worse with each year. Right before the Wuhan virus, there was President Trump’s “historic” impeachment. And before that, there was the death of General Qasem Soleimani and the possibility of World War III. And before that, in no particular order, there was the imminent climate catastrophe, Russian collusion and the Mueller report, the Amazon rainforest burning down, and periodic nuclear threats from North Korea.


People should know better by now, yet they seem to fall for the hype every time—including many conservatives. The promise of the tech age and the ubiquity of smartphones and the internet was that it would arm people with relevant information and rational courses of action. Rather, it has done the opposite—magnifying doubts and fears about everything and everyone.

In most cases, the only thing that information technology has done is cause people to become less tethered to reality. Screens now replace people’s senses, and the algorithms embedded in social media do people’s thinking for them.

As such, most people spend more time in the virtual world and less time in the real one, making them ever more vulnerable to exaggerated doomsday narratives. In particular, this retreat from reality takes a toll on a person’s memory, imagination, and common sense.

Remember swine flu? Or bird flu? Or Ebola? Or Zika? Or SARS? Each of these diseases from the past two decades was arguably worse than the Wuhan virus. In the case of swine flu, more than 1,000 people died from it before Obama declared a state of emergency. Big Tech and the mainstream news will never report this. And yet, for all their distrust of the media, people still seem inclined to believe the pundits and clueless scientists over their own experience.

This then leads to a lack of context. Everything seems new and unprecedented, and therefore unknown and scary—except that this isn’t true. Pandemics have alwaysexisted, and there are proven ways to deal with them that don’t involve shutting down the economy and putting everyone under house arrest.


Buddy, you need to check your talking points. We are well past "The Virus is a Hoax" and have moved on to, "It's someone else's fault but not Trump's" Which is why Trump is trying to blame the CDC, NIH, FDA and of course China for his failure to prepare for this crisis.
As I recall when Trump was implementing travel restrictions with China you stupid assholes were are screaming racists. Do you ever get the notion that you're completely full of shit? Hell you must see it running out of your ears everytime you look in a mirror.
by the way obammy stopped travel to mexico with h1n1. is he racist too?
yeah, but he waited till after the virus had already spread well into the U.S.
Trump closed the borders BEFORE China could infect untold numbers here.
 
It’s sad and disgusting how easily so many surrendered their basic human rights with so little facts provided.


While the experts claim that little is known about the Wuhan virus, enough is known to suggest that the response has been excessive. While there is a worrying possibility that the Wuhan virus will make a sizable impact on public health (along with the possibility that it probably won’t), the hype surrounding it has already created a huge imposition on daily life and cost the global economy trillions of dollars. Everyone must “do their part” to confront the pandemic or face the wrath of their conscientious peers.

This kind of hype and the subsequent reaction to it seems to grow worse with each year. Right before the Wuhan virus, there was President Trump’s “historic” impeachment. And before that, there was the death of General Qasem Soleimani and the possibility of World War III. And before that, in no particular order, there was the imminent climate catastrophe, Russian collusion and the Mueller report, the Amazon rainforest burning down, and periodic nuclear threats from North Korea.


People should know better by now, yet they seem to fall for the hype every time—including many conservatives. The promise of the tech age and the ubiquity of smartphones and the internet was that it would arm people with relevant information and rational courses of action. Rather, it has done the opposite—magnifying doubts and fears about everything and everyone.

In most cases, the only thing that information technology has done is cause people to become less tethered to reality. Screens now replace people’s senses, and the algorithms embedded in social media do people’s thinking for them.

As such, most people spend more time in the virtual world and less time in the real one, making them ever more vulnerable to exaggerated doomsday narratives. In particular, this retreat from reality takes a toll on a person’s memory, imagination, and common sense.

Remember swine flu? Or bird flu? Or Ebola? Or Zika? Or SARS? Each of these diseases from the past two decades was arguably worse than the Wuhan virus. In the case of swine flu, more than 1,000 people died from it before Obama declared a state of emergency. Big Tech and the mainstream news will never report this. And yet, for all their distrust of the media, people still seem inclined to believe the pundits and clueless scientists over their own experience.

This then leads to a lack of context. Everything seems new and unprecedented, and therefore unknown and scary—except that this isn’t true. Pandemics have alwaysexisted, and there are proven ways to deal with them that don’t involve shutting down the economy and putting everyone under house arrest.


Buddy, you need to check your talking points. We are well past "The Virus is a Hoax" and have moved on to, "It's someone else's fault but not Trump's" Which is why Trump is trying to blame the CDC, NIH, FDA and of course China for his failure to prepare for this crisis.
As I recall when Trump was implementing travel restrictions with China you stupid assholes were are screaming racists. Do you ever get the notion that you're completely full of shit? Hell you must see it running out of your ears everytime you look in a mirror.
by the way obammy stopped travel to mexico with h1n1. is he racist too?
yeah, but he waited till after the virus had already spread well into the U.S.
Trump closed the borders BEFORE China could infect untold numbers here.
so did obammy and every president in history. hmmmmmmm. h1n1 started in Mexico. nothing happened for three weeks. why?

So the entire globe waited too long?
 
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Now this is some funny shit right there... I am a leftist.
Hilarious.
I never said that. I just copied and pasted it from Google. Being stoopid absolves me of all responsibility. You? :heehee:

Okay...great... I can say the source I copied from was wrong - PERFECT!!!.... now that we are past that...
DISPUTE THIS...
March 25th, 10 year old girl is 1st H1N1 case.
April 29th, first death in the U.S. 2 year old in Houston TX.
Search all day long.... you will find nothing else.


H1N1 killed exactly 0 people in the first month. Primarily, because it had little to no effect on a large % of the population. I myself had it. I barely had the sniffles. My son, however, was in the hospital for 6 days and was the scariest time in my life.
Covid-19, in the same time frame is devastatingly worse than H1N1. And is far-far - far more contagious.
so what happened it got so bad?

Time. It was not nearly as contagious. And, unlike Covid, most of the people who died were young or had underlying conditions that contributed to their death. Thank God H1N1 was not nearly as bad as Covid.
The math is very easy. Very.
If we use your source, the death rate of H1N1 was .02%.
As of today, CV-19 is 1 out of 55. almost 2%.
Can you see that is way-way-way worse?
I think that it's quite obvious that the hospitals are being overwhelmed in a lot of places.

If it is as bad as the flu, like some people claim, how come hospitals are not usually full of flu patients?

The Spanish Flu of 1918 may have been worse, but I'm not sure what kinds of medicines were available then.
where are hospitals overwhelmed? name one
 
I put this over on smart asses post too and it couldn't be more true.
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Now this is some funny shit right there... I am a leftist.
Hilarious.
I never said that. I just copied and pasted it from Google. Being stoopid absolves me of all responsibility. You? :heehee:

Okay...great... I can say the source I copied from was wrong - PERFECT!!!.... now that we are past that...
DISPUTE THIS...
March 25th, 10 year old girl is 1st H1N1 case.
April 29th, first death in the U.S. 2 year old in Houston TX.
Search all day long.... you will find nothing else.


H1N1 killed exactly 0 people in the first month. Primarily, because it had little to no effect on a large % of the population. I myself had it. I barely had the sniffles. My son, however, was in the hospital for 6 days and was the scariest time in my life.
Covid-19, in the same time frame is devastatingly worse than H1N1. And is far-far - far more contagious.
so what happened it got so bad?

Time. It was not nearly as contagious. And, unlike Covid, most of the people who died were young or had underlying conditions that contributed to their death. Thank God H1N1 was not nearly as bad as Covid.
The math is very easy. Very.
If we use your source, the death rate of H1N1 was .02%.
As of today, CV-19 is 1 out of 55. almost 2%.
Can you see that is way-way-way worse?
I think that it's quite obvious that the hospitals are being overwhelmed in a lot of places.

If it is as bad as the flu, like some people claim, how come hospitals are not usually full of flu patients?

The Spanish Flu of 1918 may have been worse, but I'm not sure what kinds of medicines were available then.
where are hospitals overwhelmed? name one
Those hospital ships were just put in place to piss off people like you, who think there is no urgency.
 
Now this is some funny shit right there... I am a leftist.
Hilarious.
I never said that. I just copied and pasted it from Google. Being stoopid absolves me of all responsibility. You? :heehee:

Okay...great... I can say the source I copied from was wrong - PERFECT!!!.... now that we are past that...
DISPUTE THIS...
March 25th, 10 year old girl is 1st H1N1 case.
April 29th, first death in the U.S. 2 year old in Houston TX.
Search all day long.... you will find nothing else.


H1N1 killed exactly 0 people in the first month. Primarily, because it had little to no effect on a large % of the population. I myself had it. I barely had the sniffles. My son, however, was in the hospital for 6 days and was the scariest time in my life.
Covid-19, in the same time frame is devastatingly worse than H1N1. And is far-far - far more contagious.
so what happened it got so bad?

Time. It was not nearly as contagious. And, unlike Covid, most of the people who died were young or had underlying conditions that contributed to their death. Thank God H1N1 was not nearly as bad as Covid.
The math is very easy. Very.
If we use your source, the death rate of H1N1 was .02%.
As of today, CV-19 is 1 out of 55. almost 2%.
Can you see that is way-way-way worse?
I think that it's quite obvious that the hospitals are being overwhelmed in a lot of places.

If it is as bad as the flu, like some people claim, how come hospitals are not usually full of flu patients?

The Spanish Flu of 1918 may have been worse, but I'm not sure what kinds of medicines were available then.
where are hospitals overwhelmed? name one
The entire state of Virginia, which just put me under house arrest, has a grand total of 135 in hospitals from this bug. That’s not even a blip on the radar.
 
First of all, the term is depression. The Great Depression is the name of one specific economic event that occurred in history. And where are you getting the idea that it would last decades?

Many dollars without being backed up with gold are produced to pay your $1200.

In other words, counterfeit money or monopoly game money have right now the same value of one of the dollars of those trillion dollars made by the Reserve Bank.

It will last centuries.
 
Now this is some funny shit right there... I am a leftist.
Hilarious.
I never said that. I just copied and pasted it from Google. Being stoopid absolves me of all responsibility. You? :heehee:

Okay...great... I can say the source I copied from was wrong - PERFECT!!!.... now that we are past that...
DISPUTE THIS...
March 25th, 10 year old girl is 1st H1N1 case.
April 29th, first death in the U.S. 2 year old in Houston TX.
Search all day long.... you will find nothing else.


H1N1 killed exactly 0 people in the first month. Primarily, because it had little to no effect on a large % of the population. I myself had it. I barely had the sniffles. My son, however, was in the hospital for 6 days and was the scariest time in my life.
Covid-19, in the same time frame is devastatingly worse than H1N1. And is far-far - far more contagious.
so what happened it got so bad?

Time. It was not nearly as contagious. And, unlike Covid, most of the people who died were young or had underlying conditions that contributed to their death. Thank God H1N1 was not nearly as bad as Covid.
The math is very easy. Very.
If we use your source, the death rate of H1N1 was .02%.
As of today, CV-19 is 1 out of 55. almost 2%.
Can you see that is way-way-way worse?
I think that it's quite obvious that the hospitals are being overwhelmed in a lot of places.

If it is as bad as the flu, like some people claim, how come hospitals are not usually full of flu patients?

The Spanish Flu of 1918 may have been worse, but I'm not sure what kinds of medicines were available then.
where are hospitals overwhelmed? name one
The entire state of Virginia, which just put me under house arrest, has a grand total of 135 in hospitals from this bug. That’s not even a blip on the radar.
Where did you find that data?
 
Now this is some funny shit right there... I am a leftist.
Hilarious.
I never said that. I just copied and pasted it from Google. Being stoopid absolves me of all responsibility. You? :heehee:

Okay...great... I can say the source I copied from was wrong - PERFECT!!!.... now that we are past that...
DISPUTE THIS...
March 25th, 10 year old girl is 1st H1N1 case.
April 29th, first death in the U.S. 2 year old in Houston TX.
Search all day long.... you will find nothing else.


H1N1 killed exactly 0 people in the first month. Primarily, because it had little to no effect on a large % of the population. I myself had it. I barely had the sniffles. My son, however, was in the hospital for 6 days and was the scariest time in my life.
Covid-19, in the same time frame is devastatingly worse than H1N1. And is far-far - far more contagious.
so what happened it got so bad?

Time. It was not nearly as contagious. And, unlike Covid, most of the people who died were young or had underlying conditions that contributed to their death. Thank God H1N1 was not nearly as bad as Covid.
The math is very easy. Very.
If we use your source, the death rate of H1N1 was .02%.
As of today, CV-19 is 1 out of 55. almost 2%.
Can you see that is way-way-way worse?
I think that it's quite obvious that the hospitals are being overwhelmed in a lot of places.

If it is as bad as the flu, like some people claim, how come hospitals are not usually full of flu patients?

The Spanish Flu of 1918 may have been worse, but I'm not sure what kinds of medicines were available then.
where are hospitals overwhelmed? name one
The entire state of Virginia, which just put me under house arrest, has a grand total of 135 in hospitals from this bug. That’s not even a blip on the radar.
135 people in the hospital? Why, it's a wonder they don't have the National Guard patrolling the streets with orders to shoot on sight no questions asked! Thank God my state (nearby) hasn't gone totally ape shit yet (maybe because my state also leads the nation in the most armed hunters, I believe). Good luck with that.
 
Now this is some funny shit right there... I am a leftist.
Hilarious.
I never said that. I just copied and pasted it from Google. Being stoopid absolves me of all responsibility. You? :heehee:

Okay...great... I can say the source I copied from was wrong - PERFECT!!!.... now that we are past that...
DISPUTE THIS...
March 25th, 10 year old girl is 1st H1N1 case.
April 29th, first death in the U.S. 2 year old in Houston TX.
Search all day long.... you will find nothing else.


H1N1 killed exactly 0 people in the first month. Primarily, because it had little to no effect on a large % of the population. I myself had it. I barely had the sniffles. My son, however, was in the hospital for 6 days and was the scariest time in my life.
Covid-19, in the same time frame is devastatingly worse than H1N1. And is far-far - far more contagious.
so what happened it got so bad?

Time. It was not nearly as contagious. And, unlike Covid, most of the people who died were young or had underlying conditions that contributed to their death. Thank God H1N1 was not nearly as bad as Covid.
The math is very easy. Very.
If we use your source, the death rate of H1N1 was .02%.
As of today, CV-19 is 1 out of 55. almost 2%.
Can you see that is way-way-way worse?
I think that it's quite obvious that the hospitals are being overwhelmed in a lot of places.

If it is as bad as the flu, like some people claim, how come hospitals are not usually full of flu patients?

The Spanish Flu of 1918 may have been worse, but I'm not sure what kinds of medicines were available then.
where are hospitals overwhelmed? name one
The entire state of Virginia, which just put me under house arrest, has a grand total of 135 in hospitals from this bug. That’s not even a blip on the radar.
135 people in the hospital? Why, it's a wonder they don't have the National Guard patrolling the streets with orders to shoot on sight no questions asked! Thank God my state (nearby) hasn't gone totally ape shit yet (maybe because my state also leads the nation in the most armed hunters, I believe). Good luck with that.
You likely have a conservative Governor.
 
Now this is some funny shit right there... I am a leftist.
Hilarious.
I never said that. I just copied and pasted it from Google. Being stoopid absolves me of all responsibility. You? :heehee:

Okay...great... I can say the source I copied from was wrong - PERFECT!!!.... now that we are past that...
DISPUTE THIS...
March 25th, 10 year old girl is 1st H1N1 case.
April 29th, first death in the U.S. 2 year old in Houston TX.
Search all day long.... you will find nothing else.


H1N1 killed exactly 0 people in the first month. Primarily, because it had little to no effect on a large % of the population. I myself had it. I barely had the sniffles. My son, however, was in the hospital for 6 days and was the scariest time in my life.
Covid-19, in the same time frame is devastatingly worse than H1N1. And is far-far - far more contagious.
so what happened it got so bad?

Time. It was not nearly as contagious. And, unlike Covid, most of the people who died were young or had underlying conditions that contributed to their death. Thank God H1N1 was not nearly as bad as Covid.
The math is very easy. Very.
If we use your source, the death rate of H1N1 was .02%.
As of today, CV-19 is 1 out of 55. almost 2%.
Can you see that is way-way-way worse?
I think that it's quite obvious that the hospitals are being overwhelmed in a lot of places.

If it is as bad as the flu, like some people claim, how come hospitals are not usually full of flu patients?

The Spanish Flu of 1918 may have been worse, but I'm not sure what kinds of medicines were available then.
where are hospitals overwhelmed? name one
The entire state of Virginia, which just put me under house arrest, has a grand total of 135 in hospitals from this bug. That’s not even a blip on the radar.
135 people in the hospital? Why, it's a wonder they don't have the National Guard patrolling the streets with orders to shoot on sight no questions asked! Thank God my state (nearby) hasn't gone totally ape shit yet (maybe because my state also leads the nation in the most armed hunters, I believe). Good luck with that.
News just in, Wuhan might be airborne, if you didn’t think it was a hoax now! That’s all you need
 
It’s sad and disgusting how easily so many surrendered their basic human rights with so little facts provided.


While the experts claim that little is known about the Wuhan virus, enough is known to suggest that the response has been excessive. While there is a worrying possibility that the Wuhan virus will make a sizable impact on public health (along with the possibility that it probably won’t), the hype surrounding it has already created a huge imposition on daily life and cost the global economy trillions of dollars. Everyone must “do their part” to confront the pandemic or face the wrath of their conscientious peers.

This kind of hype and the subsequent reaction to it seems to grow worse with each year. Right before the Wuhan virus, there was President Trump’s “historic” impeachment. And before that, there was the death of General Qasem Soleimani and the possibility of World War III. And before that, in no particular order, there was the imminent climate catastrophe, Russian collusion and the Mueller report, the Amazon rainforest burning down, and periodic nuclear threats from North Korea.


People should know better by now, yet they seem to fall for the hype every time—including many conservatives. The promise of the tech age and the ubiquity of smartphones and the internet was that it would arm people with relevant information and rational courses of action. Rather, it has done the opposite—magnifying doubts and fears about everything and everyone.

In most cases, the only thing that information technology has done is cause people to become less tethered to reality. Screens now replace people’s senses, and the algorithms embedded in social media do people’s thinking for them.

As such, most people spend more time in the virtual world and less time in the real one, making them ever more vulnerable to exaggerated doomsday narratives. In particular, this retreat from reality takes a toll on a person’s memory, imagination, and common sense.

Remember swine flu? Or bird flu? Or Ebola? Or Zika? Or SARS? Each of these diseases from the past two decades was arguably worse than the Wuhan virus. In the case of swine flu, more than 1,000 people died from it before Obama declared a state of emergency. Big Tech and the mainstream news will never report this. And yet, for all their distrust of the media, people still seem inclined to believe the pundits and clueless scientists over their own experience.

This then leads to a lack of context. Everything seems new and unprecedented, and therefore unknown and scary—except that this isn’t true. Pandemics have alwaysexisted, and there are proven ways to deal with them that don’t involve shutting down the economy and putting everyone under house arrest.


Buddy, you need to check your talking points. We are well past "The Virus is a Hoax" and have moved on to, "It's someone else's fault but not Trump's" Which is why Trump is trying to blame the CDC, NIH, FDA and of course China for his failure to prepare for this crisis.
Stop your hyperbole. Nobody said it was a hoax. Like the flu every year, tens of thousands will die from a virus.

But we don’t send the world into a Great Depression over it.W

The Wuhan Virus? Is that the same as the Chinese Virus.....and then there is the Covad 19 virus or sumptin like dat...how many viruses we dealing wid? I did here there were 8 different types of the Chinese Virus.
 
It’s sad and disgusting how easily so many surrendered their basic human rights with so little facts provided.


While the experts claim that little is known about the Wuhan virus, enough is known to suggest that the response has been excessive. While there is a worrying possibility that the Wuhan virus will make a sizable impact on public health (along with the possibility that it probably won’t), the hype surrounding it has already created a huge imposition on daily life and cost the global economy trillions of dollars. Everyone must “do their part” to confront the pandemic or face the wrath of their conscientious peers.

This kind of hype and the subsequent reaction to it seems to grow worse with each year. Right before the Wuhan virus, there was President Trump’s “historic” impeachment. And before that, there was the death of General Qasem Soleimani and the possibility of World War III. And before that, in no particular order, there was the imminent climate catastrophe, Russian collusion and the Mueller report, the Amazon rainforest burning down, and periodic nuclear threats from North Korea.


People should know better by now, yet they seem to fall for the hype every time—including many conservatives. The promise of the tech age and the ubiquity of smartphones and the internet was that it would arm people with relevant information and rational courses of action. Rather, it has done the opposite—magnifying doubts and fears about everything and everyone.

In most cases, the only thing that information technology has done is cause people to become less tethered to reality. Screens now replace people’s senses, and the algorithms embedded in social media do people’s thinking for them.

As such, most people spend more time in the virtual world and less time in the real one, making them ever more vulnerable to exaggerated doomsday narratives. In particular, this retreat from reality takes a toll on a person’s memory, imagination, and common sense.

Remember swine flu? Or bird flu? Or Ebola? Or Zika? Or SARS? Each of these diseases from the past two decades was arguably worse than the Wuhan virus. In the case of swine flu, more than 1,000 people died from it before Obama declared a state of emergency. Big Tech and the mainstream news will never report this. And yet, for all their distrust of the media, people still seem inclined to believe the pundits and clueless scientists over their own experience.

This then leads to a lack of context. Everything seems new and unprecedented, and therefore unknown and scary—except that this isn’t true. Pandemics have alwaysexisted, and there are proven ways to deal with them that don’t involve shutting down the economy and putting everyone under house arrest.


Buddy, you need to check your talking points. We are well past "The Virus is a Hoax" and have moved on to, "It's someone else's fault but not Trump's" Which is why Trump is trying to blame the CDC, NIH, FDA and of course China for his failure to prepare for this crisis.
Stop your hyperbole. Nobody said it was a hoax. Like the flu every year, tens of thousands will die from a virus.

But we don’t send the world into a Great Depression over it.W

The Wuhan Virus? Is that the same as the Chinese Virus.....and then there is the Covad 19 virus or sumptin like dat...how many viruses we dealing wid? I did here there were 8 different types of the Chinese Virus.
This one’s the Wuhan virus. You’re welcome
 

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