The winds of Civil War, what it takes to actually get there

[XponentialChaos]

Quit your whining.

You know where you can file your complaint.

 

[Failzero]

You know where you can file your complaint.

Can we start a “ Guess which Posters are stealth Mod / Admins section ?

 

[XponentialChaos]

Can we start a “ Guess which Posters are stealth Mod / Admins section ?

Fine with me.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Like the Murders that happened at the CHOP / CHAZ and at the Occupy Wall Street happenings ?

Literally irrelevant.

 

[Zincwarrior]

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Their other favorite tool.

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Whats your thoughts on civil war then nursing home Boomer?

Mine are, everyone fomenting civil war, including MAGAs on this thread, get absolutely slaughtered by ABC government entities if they actually tried anything.

End of thread.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You are not discussing with opposition. You are pushing an agenda with fellow wannabees.

But sure, lets go with the OP. There is no chance of Civil War in the US absent the current regime attempting another coup or use pf the military to eliminate the results of the midterms.

There is no chance of succession at all. The ABC entities will imprison or GITMO any real movements to go so.

Wrong word.

 

[candycorn]

Here it is in text so that those in here who are closed minded to ANY opposing viewpoint.

"The first step is the loss of civic trust.

The breeding of civil conflict begins when people lose trust in the fairness of the system. We've seen this at all levels of present-day political discourse, and it has become far worse over the past few years.

MAGA is 100% responsible for this lack of trust. Elections that were audited 9 ways to Sunday are called "fraudulent" by reflexively stupid observers such as yourself.

Step two is a polarization hardens into identity.

Some political polarization is normal, and in the past, people would simply agree to disagree. Now, however, such differences have become rigid identities that people internalize. This shift has been driven by those who attempt to insert politics into every aspect of daily life, from the sports teams we support to the vehicles we drive. As a result, one side has escalated the culture into a multi-front conflict that feels inescapable.


Thus, everyone is constantly reminded as to who they are on the political divide, with no break in the action. Politics used to only be one aspect of life, and you could ignore it with work, sports, or hobbies. But that has all changed, now that one side insists that you be mindful of everything you do.

Making it very difficult to separate what should be the minor subject of politics from everything else.

Again, MAGA is 100% responsible for this. Swim meets are now politicized.

Step three is a breakdown of the gatekeepers.

Previously, the media, churches, civic leaders, and political parties served as gatekeepers in political discourse, shaping public conversation. Now, however, these institutions have failed in that role and, at times, have worsened the situation, motivated by self-interest.

While the media used to be somewhat mildly biased, they at least made an effort to be objective and cover both sides equally, and you didn't constantly question whether they had an ulterior motive behind their coverage. These days, certain media sources are nothing but propaganda press, making it very difficult to see where the media ends and a certain political movement begins.

It's to the point where some media sources don't even bother trying to be objective; they just let the Bolshoi fly. Which leads to the next step in this dreadful 'progression.'

Media is biased? I guess those who can't read or think say that media is biased toward the educated.

Media does have some bias as there are editors who make a decision on what their readers/viewers/listeners prefer. Seldom is it ever as unfair as the reflexively stupid pretend it is.

Step four is parallel information realities.

We used to watch the same three channels or read one or two local newspapers. Now there are multiple sources, and they can present wildly disparate versions of the news and political commentary to the point that these can be completely different realities.

Now, both sides can read the same story from their respective sources and come away with completely different conclusions. That doesn't bode well for a unified society in which everyone knows what is important and understands the same facts.

MAGA owns this too with their "alternative facts"

Step five is the loss of a neutral rule of law.

Out of the nine steps, this is the pivot point. The abject corruption in the rule of law. The most egregious examples were the relentless persecution of January 6, 2021, defendants and the soft treatment of the leftists who burned, looted, and murdered during their 2020 'summer of love.'

Remember that above everything else, the law is a teacher. And when it's seen that some people are above the law, while others are relentlessly chased down, it signals that certain political beliefs are championed, while others are verboten. And this message comes through loud and clear.

Step six is a normalization of political violence.

This has almost become de rigueur for the left side of the spectrum, with their celebration of political murder and the glossing of Jay Jones in Virginia. It was only a few months ago that most people recoiled in horror at these kinds of acts. And even worse, while the left initially tried to downplay its ever-violent history from the KKK, Weather Underground, Anti-fa, and onto 'dark woke.' It's gone from trying to defend its actions to ignoring them. Who knows, maybe they'll wholesale celebrate the practice next.

MAGA all the way on this. The blob was offering to pay the legal bills for any of his henchmen who "beat the crap" out of people. He also pardoned (sometimes multiple times) the 1/6 insurrectionists.

Step seven is the rise of militias and parallel forces.

It's always been a mental and linguistic mistake to characterize the two sides as 'pro-gun/anti-gun' because the left has always loved guns; they just never wanted them in the hands of anyone who opposes them. But now you have small militias forming on both sides, and that doesn't bode well for the future. And worse yet, with the left in their new paradigm of trying to selectively confiscate guns from political opponents is akin to dumping out gasoline in the midst of a brush fire.

The good news is that this is a big hurdle for all, and now with the violent left coming out of their padded room, there is going to be more than the usual skepticism for their gun-grabbing schemes. One can just imagine that this type of equipment will soon be flying off the shelves – especially since many on the right have lost all of their old stuff in an unfortunate boating accident.

When we get to step eight, there's the trigger event.

Civil wars don't begin with a plan. They begin with a spark.

After that, step nine comes when police, military, or federal agencies split.

Luckily, the last few of these are actually pretty high hurdles.

While in the fevered dreams of the left, the estimated 120 million-to-140 million gun owners with something like 400 million to 600 million guns, and trillions of rounds of ammunition are a 'threat,' the reality is that these are a stabilizing influence.

The steps get higher further in this process, and there are things we can do to reverse it."

Joe Rogan and Glenn Beck on the nine steps to civil war

The shocking realization is that we're halfway down the list outlined by Glenn Beck.

www.americanthinker.com

So this pretty much confirms MAGA is pining for a civil war. Conservatives long before MAGA have been hoping for some sort of divide in the nation....they will be hoping for it log after the blob has oozed off the dais.

 

[Lockback]

Economy was fine when Joe left.

It was???
May I ask what recreational drugs you engage in?

Trump is screwing it up with his Crypto Scams, his tariffs, and his mass government layoffs.

He's also responsible for jock itch, teenage acne and let's not forget the 1919 Black Sox scandal.

 

[Lockback]

MAGA is 100% responsible for this lack of trust. Elections that were audited 9 ways to Sunday are called "fraudulent" by reflexively stupid observers such as yourself.

Again, MAGA is 100% responsible for this. Swim meets are now politicized.

Media is biased? I guess those who can't read or think say that media is biased toward the educated.

Media does have some bias as there are editors who make a decision on what their readers/viewers/listeners prefer. Seldom is it ever as unfair as the reflexively stupid pretend it is.

MAGA owns this too with their "alternative facts"

MAGA all the way on this. The blob was offering to pay the legal bills for any of his henchmen who "beat the crap" out of people. He also pardoned (sometimes multiple times) the 1/6 insurrectionists.


So this pretty much confirms MAGA is pining for a civil war. Conservatives long before MAGA have been hoping for some sort of divide in the nation....they will be hoping for it log after the blob has oozed off the dais.

Wow.
A great example of why I think we ARE headed for civil war, unfortunately. What you just stated is total madness.

 

[Failzero]

Dominion Voting Machines and Mail In Voting are teh Devil

 

[Lockback]

Dominion Voting Machines and Mail In Voting are teh Devil

The greatest fraud in American history.

 

[j-mac]

Should there be “discussions “ about committing murder?

Sure, why does the left think it’s ok?

 

[j-mac]

MAGA is 100% responsible for this lack of trust. Elections that were audited 9 ways to Sunday are called "fraudulent" by reflexively stupid observers such as yourself.

Again, MAGA is 100% responsible for this. Swim meets are now politicized.

Media is biased? I guess those who can't read or think say that media is biased toward the educated.

Media does have some bias as there are editors who make a decision on what their readers/viewers/listeners prefer. Seldom is it ever as unfair as the reflexively stupid pretend it is.

MAGA owns this too with their "alternative facts"

MAGA all the way on this. The blob was offering to pay the legal bills for any of his henchmen who "beat the crap" out of people. He also pardoned (sometimes multiple times) the 1/6 insurrectionists.


So this pretty much confirms MAGA is pining for a civil war. Conservatives long before MAGA have been hoping for some sort of divide in the nation....they will be hoping for it log after the blob has oozed off the dais.

So, in your mind, it’s all Trump voters fault? Nothing in this respect comes from the progressive left, right?

 

[candycorn]

So, in your mind, it’s all Trump voters fault?

Well point #1..., before your blob oozed onto the scene, we didn't have people questioning whether elections were on the up and up outside of 2000 which was within a single percentage point in popular vote and the winner got 271 electoral votes. This was something unique to the MAGA cancer. You own it. Lock stock and barrel. Such questioning had and has zero basis. Every audit and examination confirmed the results. Trump lost. Badly. But even to this day, the MAGA cancer continues to spread.
This is 100% a MAGA creation. We didn't have it before. As you said, it's all your fault.

Do you deny that?

 

[Lesh]

Sure, why does the left think it’s ok?

They don’t

Why do you think it’s ok to lie?

Because Trump does it?

 

[JohnDB]

Now, a couple of things I know,

1. there are some in here that won't watch the video because it is Glenn Beck that is talking about it.

2. There are some that will come in here to just throw feces and try to blow up the discussion.

3. And there are many from the left in here that want this to come to fruition....

Regardless of all of that, I believe that we need to have this discussion, if not to avoid the path we are on, then to be sure that we can see the signs, and know what is coming...

What say you?

Blair Mountain War is an unheard of American Civil War that both Corporations and our own Government does NOT want to remember. They want to deliberately forget about the machine gun nests, bombing runs, and economic slavery created by the Companies and Sherrifs supported by the US military.

This wasn't ancient history. 1920's....just 100 years ago under President Harding. And was reminiscent along similar economic conditions that brought about the Civil War.
Corporations along side of Government backing oppressing the working class citizens because they could.

I'm all for everyone earning their nickel....but care must be maintained to look out for the working people too. (Even if they become whiney primadonnas who don't produce as they should)

To this day, there are no markers around Blair Mountain or in the Federal Registar because a new strip mining company still wanted at the coal in the hills in West Virginia. (I'm smelling a rat)

 

[Zincwarrior]

Media is biased? I guess those who can't read or think say that media is biased toward the educated.

Media does have some bias as there are editors who make a decision on what their readers/viewers/listeners prefer. Seldom is it ever as unfair as the reflexively stupid pretend it is.

The ones that say media is biased appear to now rely on completely unvetted podcasts and Twitter posts as if they were pronouncements from Moses. Its not sane.

 

[candycorn]

The ones that say media is biased appear to now rely on completely unvetted podcasts and Twitter posts as if they were pronouncements from Moses. Its not sane.

in Conservistan content=credibility. If they agree with it, the news is unbiased; if they disagree they swear the news is slanted.

 

[j-mac]

Well point #1..., before your blob oozed onto the scene, we didn't have people questioning whether elections were on the up and up outside of 2000 which was within a single percentage point in popular vote and the winner got 271 electoral votes. This was something unique to the MAGA cancer. You own it. Lock stock and barrel. Such questioning had and has zero basis. Every audit and examination confirmed the results. Trump lost. Badly. But even to this day, the MAGA cancer continues to spread.
This is 100% a MAGA creation. We didn't have it before. As you said, it's all your fault.

Do you deny that?

That’s the official narrative.

 

[j-mac]

They don’t

Why do you think it’s ok to lie?

Because Trump does it?

You need a mirror, badly.