The whole story about the death of Pretti

[teddyearp]

That.
Right there.
The stupidest ******* thing you will read today, ladies and gentlemen.
Another stupid lie by another stupid liar.

God bless you for your patience. I lost it some time ago with that guy. I got so tired of his bullshit that I was tempted to use 'means' to track him down and put a .45 ACP into his face. But that's so wrong, so I put him on ignore him instead, so I could live longer rather than listen to stupid people. Just look at my ignore list and you'll see all those for which I feel the same.

Considering the climate we see out there on the streets and such, I am sure they feel the same.

 

[teddyearp]

ICE officials are federal law enforcement officers. All ICE law enforcement officers go through extensive academy training to do their job as safely and effectively as possible.

On that point, The AG of Arizona, Kris Mayes in her speech with the threat for citizens to use the stand your ground to shoot ICE, spent much of her interview claiming ICE isn't even real law enforcement because of the amount of training they were receiving. She touted that Phoenix and Arizona LEO's get about 700 hrs. The truth is 672.25 hrs basic training:

https://post.az.gov/training/basic-training

Nationwide that amount differs widely, from 600 to 1000 plus hours. So how well trained are AZ LEO's then in comparison?

 

[teddyearp]

Stop being stupid then.

Just tell him, "You're right":

 

[Woodznutz]

Pretti was a nutcase who eventually would have killed someone.

 

[Robert W]

When you have a felon president and a secret police force, "following the law" becomes meaningless.



Well, it's own amnesty laws, to start with. Anyone who applies for Amnesty should have their case heard and resolved within 180 days. That process can take 4-7 years now.


I don't think you understand it at all.


No, guy, Nazism is considered a form of Fascism. So is what Franco did in Spain.



Um, I think you are confused as to the role of the Monarch in the British Commonwealth.


Sure she did.

So did the Danish Dad who Trump arrested.
So did the Maryland Dad who Trump has bent over backwards to try to deport to somewhere, even after judges have told him he couldn't.
So did the Korea Purple Heart Vet.
So did are the students Trump is trying to deport because they angered our Zionist Masters.

This is the problem with Trump's entire process. They give the iCEStapo a quota of 3000 people a day to arrest (even if they have nowhere to send them) and they'll just pick up anyone they can. And if they have a limited grasp on English and maybe made an error somewhere during the process, so much the better.

Posters reading this round of dialogue, hear me out. This poster keeps switching subjects. It is to deceive readers. He has introduced Fascism, Nazis, Franco of Spain and when speaking of immigration, moves off the topic of what he should know about, Chinese immigrants. As fast as this is mentioned, he manages to derail the topic. Why do you think he pulls these stunts?

 

[teddyearp]

Posters reading this round of dialogue, hear me out. This poster keeps switching subjects. It is to deceive readers. He has introduced Fascism, Nazis, Franco of Spain and when speaking of immigration, moves off the topic of what he should know about, Chinese immigrants. As fast as this is mentioned, he manages to derail the topic. Why do you think he pulls these stunts?

He's being paid for every post.

 

[beagle9]

Wild imagination.
What a Cray-Cray guy.

1). Which Fences? The ones that the protesters pushed their way through.
Are you really seeing it as 'cops taking down the fences."

2). Oh, Never mind.....arguing with idiots isn't my thing.

I've played your game enough.
******* Crazy Old Man.

 

[beagle9]

Posters reading this round of dialogue, hear me out. This poster keeps switching subjects. It is to deceive readers. He has introduced Fascism, Nazis, Franco of Spain and when speaking of immigration, moves off the topic of what he should know about, Chinese immigrants. As fast as this is mentioned, he manages to derail the topic. Why do you think he pulls these stunts?

Paid shill ??

 

[JoeB131]

Posters reading this round of dialogue, hear me out. This poster keeps switching subjects. It is to deceive readers. He has introduced Fascism, Nazis, Franco of Spain and when speaking of immigration, moves off the topic of what he should know about, Chinese immigrants. As fast as this is mentioned, he manages to derail the topic. Why do you think he pulls these stunts?

Uh, guy, you are the one who went into a weird tangent about a King being needed for Fascism (Just telling me you are confusing constitutional monarchy with fascism).

If Trump were just going after people with orders of removal, there'd be no issue here.

Instead, he's going after people who have been granted green cards, people who've been granted citizenship, and even people who were born here.

 

[80zephyr]

Uh, guy, you are the one who went into a weird tangent about a King being needed for Fascism (Just telling me you are confusing constitutional monarchy with fascism).

If Trump were just going after people with orders of removal, there'd be no issue here.

Instead, he's going after people who have been granted green cards, people who've been granted citizenship, and even people who were born here.

The law says ICE can detain and try to deport green card holders with convictions for: Any offense involving drugs, including marijuana (even if legal in your state) Any offense involving guns. Any offense involving domestic violence, child abuse, or violation of an order of protection. As to the rest of your post, its propaganda.

 

[Robert W]

Uh, guy, you are the one who went into a weird tangent about a King being needed for Fascism (Just telling me you are confusing constitutional monarchy with fascism).

If Trump were just going after people with orders of removal, there'd be no issue here.

Instead, he's going after people who have been granted green cards, people who've been granted citizenship, and even people who were born here.

My discussion was not of my own concepts; it was you who brought up fascism. And you simply do not understand it at all.
Trump is not in the field and the agents in the field don't get instructions from Trump. They go by training and the field bosses they work for. You love to shoot your face off though at times you are right, often you are purely a political animal. We see it and you know we do.

 

[JoeB131]

The law says ICE can detain and try to deport green card holders with convictions for: Any offense involving drugs, including marijuana (even if legal in your state) Any offense involving guns. Any offense involving domestic violence, child abuse, or violation of an order of protection. As to the rest of your post, its propaganda.

Okay, so what about the US Citizen of Hmong descent who was arrested by ICE, marched out of his home nearly naked in the freezing cold?

Or the Danish father of five who was arrested at his citizenship hearing on a minor paperwork error ten years ago?

Or the Turkish Student who was arrested on the street because she wrote an article critical of Israel?


If ICE has that kind of power, then it's time to abolish ICE.

 

[Robert W]

Okay, so what about the US Citizen of Hmong descent who was arrested by ICE, marched out of his home nearly naked in the freezing cold?

Or the Danish father of five who was arrested at his citizenship hearing on a minor paperwork error ten years ago?

Or the Turkish Student who was arrested on the street because she wrote an article critical of Israel?


If ICE has that kind of power, then it's time to abolish ICE.

Joe, you talk as if you truly expect ICE to perform daily, 24 hours, perfectly. Even the arrest of Mangione was not perfect since now his lawyers managed to get off the case, a death penalty. My comments are to say no legal officer or system is perfect. You have mentioned 3 cases yet so far
ICE has arrested thousands of aliens, and it simply boggles the imagination you have they could have been perfect.

 

[80zephyr]

Okay, so what about the US Citizen of Hmong descent who was arrested by ICE, marched out of his home nearly naked in the freezing cold?

Or the Danish father of five who was arrested at his citizenship hearing on a minor paperwork error ten years ago?

Or the Turkish Student who was arrested on the street because she wrote an article critical of Israel?


If ICE has that kind of power, then it's time to abolish ICE.

The Hmong refused to identify himself.

The Danish father: Kasper Eriksen, a Danish-born father of four (with a fifth on the way) living in Mississippi, was detained by ICE on April 15, 2025, during his final citizenship interview in Memphis. He was detained due to a 2015 failure to submit Form I-751 to remove conditions on his green card, resulting in a 10-year-old removal order.

As for the Turkish student, the US should be able to deport her if they so choose.

 

[Robert W]

The Hmong refused to identify himself.

The Danish father: Kasper Eriksen, a Danish-born father of four (with a fifth on the way) living in Mississippi, was detained by ICE on April 15, 2025, during his final citizenship interview in Memphis. He was detained due to a 2015 failure to submit Form I-751 to remove conditions on his green card, resulting in a 10-year-old removal order.

As for the Turkish student, the US should be able to deport her if they so choose.

Outstanding reply. I was ignorant about his 3 cases so focused on his faulty belief that all ICE officers must be perfect.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

this has nothing to do with DEI.

This is hiring people without vetting them to see if they are qualified to do the job.

DEI doesn't require anyone to take an unqualified candidate.

Then, specifically, what does the vetting look like to you?

 

[Robert W]

Then, specifically, what does the vetting look like to you?

Yes, what is legal for a Chinese woman who shows up in the USA. Did she follow laws or did she show up as an illegal alien. If she followed the laws, why does her husband support illegal aliens?

 

[JoeB131]

Joe, you talk as if you truly expect ICE to perform daily, 24 hours, perfectly.

No, I expect them to not be thugs, not shoot soccer moms in the face or male nurses in the back.

Even the arrest of Mangione was not perfect since now his lawyers managed to get off the case, a death penalty.

That had nothing to do with his arrest and everything to do with the fact that what he did doesn't qualify under the Federal Death Penalty statute. (In fact, I would argue there's no Federal jurisdiction here at all). He shot one guy. It wasn't a hate crime or an act of terrorism. He was just a guy with long-term medical issues who took out an insurance executive.

My comments are to say no legal officer or system is perfect. You have mentioned 3 cases yet so far

Three too many. I could list dozens more, but the overall problem is how they are being handled.

Instead of sensibly going after people who either have orders of removal OR have been convicted of crimes, they are picking up anyone on the street, regardless of their status.

CE has arrested thousands of aliens, and it simply boggles the imagination you have they could have been perfect.

I'd be happy if they were relatively competent. Take the Midway Blitz campaign here in Chicago netted 313 people. Except only a handful of them had criminal records. This is utterly insane.

Yes, what is legal for a Chinese woman who shows up in the USA. Did she follow laws or did she show up as an illegal alien. If she followed the laws, why does her husband support illegal aliens?

Most Chinese who claim asylum here usually come over on tourist visas, and then claim asylum when they get here, which is perfectly legal under the law.

In fact, 79% of Chinese asylum claims are approved.

Just because I follow a law doesn't mean I don't think the should be changed, or that current enforcement is kind of stupid.

But again, when you have a FASCIST GOVERNMENT ignoring it's own rules, none of us are safe.

 

[JoeB131]

Then, specifically, what does the vetting look like to you?

To me?

Making sure they can pass a basic competency test.

Minimum education requirements.

Passing a psych test. Someone who joins because he wants to bash in some beaner heads should be rejected.

 

[AntonToo]

I was tempted to use 'means' to track him down and put a .45 ACP into his face.

I know you've settled for ignore function, but just the fact that you were intertaining those kinds of thoughts is some sick in head shit.