The video I just saw from the trial of the Floyd incident with the audio of the crowd around looked pretty bad

This murdering bastard better seek out some sort of plea deal while he can.

Every witness is worse than the previous.

It doesn't bode well for Chauvin.
Murder is for the jury to decide.
 
If the cop is convicted and deserves to be then kudos to the justice system.
The down side is that BLM will be essentially acquitted and emboldened. They will gain their own department in any demmunist administrations and Floyd will become Jesus Christ.
 
An EMT was a witness to the whole incident and offered to help. She said she watched the whole thing and she is saying that the officers just killed Floyd right in front of her.

Chauvin is done.
 
The crowd was pleading with police to let Floyd up....Floyd was obvously unconscious and unresponsive and the cop kept his knee on his neck.

The crowd is begging to check his pulse. I never saw this before. I thought the cop couldnt tell.

Fuck man....I dunno.

Has anyone seen that specific video before? With the crowd pleading with police? I had not.

Trials are great things, facts often com out.

I don't know if Chauvin is guilty of murder, but what he did was police brutality in any case.

What I not liking is the CNN reporting on the witnesses, it seems full on sentiment and emotion, low on actually explaining to the jury what laws were broken.

That makes me think the Prosecution doesn't have the LEGAL basis for the top charges to stick, and are forced to play to the jury's sympathy.

What makes me worried is that all this would appear to a lay person to be a "rock solid" case, when legally it's very very thin.

That would make people angry on an acquittal or lesser charges being the only ones that stick, and we all know what will happen then.
 
#8: “....unable to move.” Yes, so were the hostages unable to move in the Russian theater crisis at Dubrovka, because they were given fentanyl.
 
What has me concerned here is the "reasonable doubt" rule. The defense is playing up his health and the drugs, and that could theoretically cause doubt.

I'm concerned how they can introduce "reasonable doubt" as to what the jurors are viewing on the tape. they implant that someone on the ground unconscious, is actually still awake and violently struggling,.

No that's not what anyone is debating.

The debate is whether what Chauvin did killed GF. All they have to do is introduce reasonable doubt, the fact that he ingested lethal levels of drugs, for instance, to show that while he had his knee on his neck he could have died from another cause. Having a knee on a neck is not a crime especially with someone resisting like he was.
 
Murder is decided by a jury in this country.
Did OJ murder his wife?
The jury said "not guilty".
And what do you say in your heart? Do you agree that he didn't do it?

I think he did it
Maybe. The medical examiner report said there was no damage to Floyd's neck. He didn't suffocate. He probably died of a drug overdose.

I think we have to wait on the ME’s testimony on that.
 
What has me concerned here is the "reasonable doubt" rule. The defense is playing up his health and the drugs, and that could theoretically cause doubt.

I'm concerned how they can introduce "reasonable doubt" as to what the jurors are viewing on the tape. they implant that someone on the ground unconscious, is actually still awake and violently struggling,.

No that's not what anyone is debating.

The debate is whether what Chauvin did killed GF. All they have to do is introduce reasonable doubt, the fact that he ingested lethal levels of drugs, for instance, to show that while he had his knee on his neck he could have died from another cause. Having a knee on a neck is not a crime especially with someone resisting like he was.

Do you have something showing the resistance? Because I didn’t see anything particularly aggregious in that video.
 
Murder is decided by a jury in this country.
Did OJ murder his wife?
The jury said "not guilty".
And what do you say in your heart? Do you agree that he didn't do it?

I think he did it
Maybe. The medical examiner report said there was no damage to Floyd's neck. He didn't suffocate. He probably died of a drug overdose.

I think we have to wait on the ME’s testimony on that.
The report is out. No damage to throat, airway or neck. He didn't suffocate.
 
Murder is decided by a jury in this country.
Did OJ murder his wife?
The jury said "not guilty".
And what do you say in your heart? Do you agree that he didn't do it?

I think he did it
Maybe. The medical examiner report said there was no damage to Floyd's neck. He didn't suffocate. He probably died of a drug overdose.

I think we have to wait on the ME’s testimony on that.
The report is out. No damage to throat, airway or neck. He didn't suffocate.

Which report? It should be interesting to hear the ME on the stand, and how he arrived at his conclusions
 

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